American Reacts to London’s Boroughs Explained

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  • @clementsphil
    @clementsphil ปีที่แล้ว +210

    First thing to remember is that they are called 'boroughs', pronounced 'burrers'. Burrows are holes in the ground, generally inhabited by rabbits!

  • @juliarabbitts1595
    @juliarabbitts1595 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I loved your comment at the beginning about London being planned; London was never planned and apart from Westminster and the original square mile a lot of the rest were villages that as the housing expanded were gradually incorporated into ‘London’

    • @mouse9727
      @mouse9727 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just like New York, Los Angeles, Toronto, and so many other cities. How Tyler wasn’t aware of that is hysterically funny

    • @martar.2085
      @martar.2085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. It's so amusing every time. It'd be over here like saying that Warsaw was supposed to be the capital (& I'm saying that as a warszawianka) 😂.

    • @martar.2085
      @martar.2085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mouse9727yup. 😂

  • @carolineskipper6976
    @carolineskipper6976 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Jay Foreman does great videos - very entertaining and yet instructional. He definitely has done more videos on the various Boroughs, so look out for them! (we ponounce it 'Burru' btw)

    • @kevintipcorn6787
      @kevintipcorn6787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Californian I'd read that as Boo-Roo (like the Bu in Burrito) instead of borough.

    • @alicemilne1444
      @alicemilne1444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevintipcorn6787 Spanish influence 😅 The actual pronunciation is more like "buh-ruh".

  • @what-uc
    @what-uc ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A big Brittish city is a collection of old towns and villages that joined up. An American city starts with a virtually clean sheet.

  • @pvuccino
    @pvuccino ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The City of London is so called, because it was the original settlement the Romans built as Londinium back in 50 AD. All of the rest of London grew around it, so for many centuries it was the actual City of London, with all the rest of it still empty fields. When London finally expanded, it kept the title due to tradition and to show it was the center of the city, which it still is.

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It also has some weird roles in British law. The City Of London needs to be consulted when a new monarch is proclaimed and the Lord Mayor of The City Of London also is basically on the same level as the Prime Minister.

  • @geofffletcher840
    @geofffletcher840 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a Brit living in London and Kent and never knew the history of this and at 74 years I have an American informing me. Thanks for this vid I'm sure it's enlightened many Brits.

  • @theukyankee
    @theukyankee ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I hope you enjoy part 2. I live in one of the boroughs and have lived in 3 others. There are definitely BIG differences in taxes, what they spend, the governance, etc. It's very interesting.

    • @robward367
      @robward367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      75% of local borough spending comes from central government.
      The GLC (Greater London Council) used to use economies of scale to procure and run common services for iLondon boroughs- ie schools (ILEA), roads, transportation, fire etc. The GLC was abolished by Thatcher in the 80s but TfL (Transport for London) takes on some of those services today (main roads, buses, tube etc)

    • @偉享林
      @偉享林 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robward367 But council tax rate for each band can vary wildly depending on each borough.
      Then there's the cross borough combined services like the ones by Westminster, RBKC and H&F. It lasted for quite a few years before our left leaning H&F got so fed up with the other two poshos and left.

  • @johnp8131
    @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Definitely worth looking at more of Jay Foremans offerings? His "Map Men" series is brilliant.

  • @librasgirl08
    @librasgirl08 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In Berlin we had 23 boroughs till 2000. We have 12 now, same as in London, two or three were combined, except the ones, that already had a population of more than 200.000. But the districts were kept as well.
    For example Mitte (Center) includes Mitte, Moabit, Hansaviertel, Tiergarten, Wedding and Gesundbrunnen.
    We still use the district names.

    • @slavecek
      @slavecek ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't tell me you had a neighbourhood called "Wedding", and the name chosen for the combination ended up being just "Mitte"!? How uninspired! :D (And also, frankly, how stereotypically German... J/k, we Czechs actually secretly envy the German efficiency and matter-of-factness.)

    • @librasgirl08
      @librasgirl08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slavecek oh the district is still called Wedding, but the boroughs is Mitte. I live in Wedding 😉
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_(Berlin)

    • @jimbo6059
      @jimbo6059 ปีที่แล้ว

      We still have 32 in London.

  • @donaldanderson6604
    @donaldanderson6604 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Every part of London has its own character and it's best to think of each area as being a separate village. I grew up in South London and it's about as different from North London as it's possible to imagine.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are right. London has nearly 500 Villages. On a good day,this 68-year-old Londoner can name just over 400 ..lol

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live (& have mostly) in South East London, which is different again, from South London. 🖖

  • @pedanticlady9126
    @pedanticlady9126 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jay also has a number of "Party Tricks" up his sleeve, including being able to "sing out of sync", "singing every County in England" and "naming every London Underground Station"!
    A singing comedian with a sureal brain... even his adverts are worth watching 😁

  • @S.Sfavorites
    @S.Sfavorites ปีที่แล้ว +46

    It's normal for all city's in UK to be divided into district's/boroughs

    • @mareiketje4899
      @mareiketje4899 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it's normal for every city anywhere ...

    • @I_Evo
      @I_Evo ปีที่แล้ว

      Birmingham the second largest city in the UK isn't.

    • @S.Sfavorites
      @S.Sfavorites ปีที่แล้ว

      @@I_Evo yes

    • @quintuscrinis
      @quintuscrinis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @I_Evo technically it is, if you look at the whole metropolis. Although there is a Birmingham District Council, the metropolis also includes Sandwell, Durley, Walsall and arguably Wolverhampton or Solihull.

    • @I_Evo
      @I_Evo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quintuscrinis Nope there's Birmingham City Council that's a unitary authority, the others you refer to are surrounding boroughs. There's no 'metropolis', there was a West Midlands County Council until Maggie got rid and there is a West Midlands geographical region but that's much larger. And there is a West Midlands Mayor (who most people can't name and fewer want) but there's no equivalent of The Greater London Assembly.

  • @paulharvey9149
    @paulharvey9149 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Just to confuse you further, two of the boroughs are called cities - City of London and City of Westminster. There are various boroughs and metropolitan bought elsewhere in England and Wales - while in Scotland, the word used is burgh - which is more or less the same thing but without the 200,000 population stipulation!

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The City Of London being the 33rd Borough:)

    • @StrongandStable17
      @StrongandStable17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      City of London isn't a Borough. That's it's own complicated separate thing.

  • @joannemoore3976
    @joannemoore3976 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was great. I'm a Brit, from the Midlands, so I honestly didn't know a lot of this. I knew the names of quite a few of the Boroughs but the history was fascinating.

    • @hareecionelson5875
      @hareecionelson5875 ปีที่แล้ว

      the midlands don't exist🙃

    • @joannemoore3976
      @joannemoore3976 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hareecionelson5875 er... I think it does

    • @hareecionelson5875
      @hareecionelson5875 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joannemoore3976 nah, midlands is just the South

    • @joannemoore3976
      @joannemoore3976 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hareecionelson5875 well I guess it's all relative. But I think Smethwick is very different to Southampton 🙂 though nowadays I'm in Stratford..Still pretty mid..

    • @hareecionelson5875
      @hareecionelson5875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joannemoore3976 I'm just having a little laugh with you

  • @SpiritmanProductions
    @SpiritmanProductions ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just watch all his London stuff - it's all brilliant. 🙂

  • @thatmarchingarrow
    @thatmarchingarrow ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jay Foreman's entire channel is great. I think his Unfinished London series (which this video is a part of) would be great for you to react to. And Map Men too possibly.

  • @mskatonic7240
    @mskatonic7240 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jay Foreman is great, well worth subscribing to! Part 2 probably has more but the differences between boroughs are probably very locally specific. Also there's the London Mayor and Assembly that look after the entire city. They are more recent and worth their own video.

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s brilliant

    • @davidthorne7712
      @davidthorne7712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t forget the prequel explaining how Greater London got it’s current shape

  • @SuzieLady
    @SuzieLady ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im a Londoner and live in the borough of Islington 💪 It has a bit of everything and I love it here.

    • @riyadougla539
      @riyadougla539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Islington is the most diverse area in the country.

  • @dilligaf73
    @dilligaf73 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I moved out of London 4 months ago after living there for 48 years. All boroughs are different. Some I would never set foot in. All have good and bad parts

  • @stevemichael8458
    @stevemichael8458 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've lived for 22 years first in Hammersmith and Fulham, and then in Wandsworth - and I learned quite a lot from this :)

  • @mervinmannas7671
    @mervinmannas7671 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was a child when the big change happened but i do remember even for years after there was arguments and wrangaling. I live in Redbrudge and never knew thats how we got our name (though it sounds obvious). Although each council within each borough runs itsself they were all anserable on certain things to the GLC (Greater London Coucil). This no lobger exists as we now have a Mayor.

  • @frankparsons1629
    @frankparsons1629 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its pronounced "Burrers" Tyler, funny lot the Brits. You must remember that in the early 1700s the City was not much larger than the "One Square Mile" it had recently (100 years prior to that) broken outside of the Roman walls and the farmland and villages beyond that had their own place names. The Borough of Greenwich is named after its settlement, its village, and so on. There were still windmills dotted over the countryside, it was very rural. I understand the Windmill Theatre was very near to one!

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In Bede there’s reference to a Northumbrian lord, Imma, who was seized and taken to London, which is described in 678AD as a thriving city. They recently realised that he was in Lundunwick, the area outside the Roman walls, rather than Lundunburh inside the walls. Lundunwick was roughly when Covent Garden now is. Lundunburh was mostly ruins plus St Paul’s Cathedral where the Bishop lived.

  • @petertrabaris1629
    @petertrabaris1629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tyler, probably the easiest for you to grasp in a U.S. context would be counties, townships, towns, villages, etc. They are just the most local governing units in any society. I grew up just outside of Chicago, in Skokie, IL. We were part of Cook County. But Cook County included the likes of, City of Chicago, Village of Skokie, City of Evanston, Village of Morton Grove, etc. Each their own local government. Great video. Can't wait to see part two. Peace

  • @johnkemp8904
    @johnkemp8904 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In the UK a burrow (‘burroh’) is the dwelling of a rabbit. The subjects of this video are boroughs, pronounced ‘burrers’. This is how the US misconception arises about the capital of Scotland being pronounced ‘Edin-burroh’ when it is actually ‘Edin-burrer’.

    • @davebirch1976
      @davebirch1976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it's even spelt Edinburgh, so I don't know where they get burrow from, if they pronounced it as edin-ber I'd let them off, they also have a habit of adding a "h" in places ending Cester making it Chester 😆

    • @mrdarren1045
      @mrdarren1045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd say it was more like edin bruh

    • @marionjustice2018
      @marionjustice2018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No Scot would say Edin-burrer! It's Edin-burruh or Edin-bruh!

  • @enemde3025
    @enemde3025 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's pronounced BURRAS, as the guy in the video says it. BURROWS are what animals live in !
    EALING = EELING.
    ENFIELD = EN( as in hen)FIELD.
    LEWISHAM = LEWISHUM.

    • @DruncanUK
      @DruncanUK ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think Tyler managed to pronounce every name wrong - that takes some doing! Well done Tyler! 🤣🤣

    • @martar.2085
      @martar.2085 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DruncanUK😂 as a Pole, I understand him. English pronounciation is difficult, very difficult! Apparently even for an American, though. Heh

  • @bobclarke1815
    @bobclarke1815 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The building behind the bus is the Bank of England, Known as "The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street".

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's called the City of London because it encompasses the approximate boundary of Roman Londinium.

  • @jasonsmart3482
    @jasonsmart3482 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My home town is in LB Bromley (post code County of Kent) the largest and greenest of the London Borough's. We dont have the tube down in this part of SE London but we do have a tram!

  • @susieq9801
    @susieq9801 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite enjoyed the little gags like the council woman @13:14 with the moustache, the dead goat on the street, the battling hams.

  • @HankD13
    @HankD13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jay Foreman is brilliant, and his Mapmen series is entertaining and educational. There is a City of London guide as well - used to work in the City - on London Wall, and love the place. Steeped in history and it was always fun finding the still standing bits of the old Roman wall tucked away. Watch more!

  • @BritishBeachcomber
    @BritishBeachcomber ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *Tyler,* you have *just discovered* the *best ambassador London has ever had.*

  • @DavidRobinson1978
    @DavidRobinson1978 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Greetings from Ealing, West London, a place most famous for Ealing Studios and Various Bands that either started, rehearsed or performed here. Ealing as it is now used be made up of several smaller local authorities. So things used to be even more complicated or harder to run from administrative point of view.

    • @Taylor23890
      @Taylor23890 ปีที่แล้ว

      The great Freddie Mercury for one . I also grew up in the London borough of Ealing . Going out in Ealing Broadway for nights out Broadway bvld

    • @AM-dz2sh
      @AM-dz2sh ปีที่แล้ว

      LOVE Ealing!!!!

  • @judithhope8970
    @judithhope8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched a lot of his videos and really enjoy them. Map men. Excellent.

  • @t.a.k.palfrey3882
    @t.a.k.palfrey3882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this presenter's videos. Of course, today's London is a metropolitan area which evolved over 2000 yrs. Scores, even hundreds of what were formerly villages and hamlets are now one big built-up area. There are even two cathedrals - St Paul's and Southwalk. New York, Boston, Montréal, and Toronto have similarly evolved out of previously distinct villages, gradually over 400+ years.

  • @AliceLucindaBronte
    @AliceLucindaBronte ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad you're reacting to some Jay Foreman, he does great stuff!

  • @jenniferharrison8915
    @jenniferharrison8915 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Australia all cities and country regions are divided into Local Council and Electoral Voting areas/zones, these may include a few connected suburbs! I assume it's similar! I have read books about Regency England where second sons worked hard to make the right powerful political friends who controlled certain superior Boroughs! No to "Rotten" boroughs! 😉 There are old movies about this political history too! I saw a really old movie recently where one declared itself a Republic, it didn't go well, a very funny movie! 😁

  • @nige4287
    @nige4287 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A borough is an administrative division in various English-speaking countries. In principle, the term borough designates a self-governing walled town, although in practice, official use of the term varies widely.

  • @katherinebirkett4706
    @katherinebirkett4706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Jay Foreman's videos!!!!! Watch them all!

  • @davidlindop3213
    @davidlindop3213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good work once again Mr Rumple. Fun + reasonably informative. I lived in London for about 18 years of my adult life (arrived age 21) before moving out to one of the next counties … it is quite interesting how the Boroughs influence life in their areas, and yet … kind of … don’t …. Most people have a division in their mind between inner and outer london roughly, the central 10 or so boroughs, and the rest. Or, between the relatively affluent areas … Westminster, Kensington and Chelsea, Richmond-Upon-Thames … and the relatively modest areas … Hackney, Lambeth, Soothwark … BUT … all the more affluent boroughs have some poorer parts, and all the more “normal” boroughs nave some very wealthy enclaves. So, overall, I think it kind of works. Nicely mixed / diverse, but with just enough local culture to make things “interesting” …. You will notice that the tube / rail systems and of course the roads cut across the boundaries very easily, so I think London is more of a cohesive unit than you might think after watching this … like you thought beforehand, I think.

  • @SilvanaDil
    @SilvanaDil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Unwittingly" -- a perfect word for you

    • @brunogardoz3360
      @brunogardoz3360 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pathetic is the perfect word for you

    • @SilvanaDil
      @SilvanaDil ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brunogardoz3360 - Um, stalker, you're the one replying to my comments across multiple channels. Creepy perv.

  • @_Churchy
    @_Churchy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally love yr channel, Tyler, but I can't get past the frequent references to the abodes of rabbits without a chuckle 🤣🤣🤣.

  • @jono_cc2258
    @jono_cc2258 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ironically some of the funniest bits are the sketches at the end for the sponsors, Jay Foreman is amazingly witty and funny!

  • @royking1
    @royking1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jay Foreman, Tom Scott, Geoff Marshall and The Tim Traveller are all fascinating TH-camrs.

  • @grahamsmith9541
    @grahamsmith9541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of London is not City. The City of London covers just 1.12 sq. miles. Is separate from the rest of London. With a population of less than 10,000 people. Run by the City of London Corporation. That is older than parliament. The City have a person in parliament called The Remembrancer. Currently Paul Double. It's his job to monitor any legislation introduced into parliament. Reporting back to the Corporation anything likely to impact the City's interests. The reigning Monarch has to ask for permission to enter the City of London. The City of London boundary is marked by statues of Dragons.
    To the West of the City of London is The City of Westminster. Where Houses of parliament, Elizabeth Tower containing Big Ben and Buckingham palace are. Covers 8.29 sq miles with a population of 204,236 in 2021. Which along with the 31 London boroughs that are not city, is Run by the Greater London Authority.

  • @michaeltunnicliffe4935
    @michaeltunnicliffe4935 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've really enjoyed watching these unfinished London videos since I went to London on holiday last November. I can tell you one thing about the boroughs though. I went on a Jack the Ripper tour which went across a couple of London's boroughs. It started in the City of London and ended in Whitechapel which is a part of Tower Hamlets. The tour guide pointed out that we were crossing the boundary because she pointed to the bollards keeping cars off the pavement. She pointed out that the ones in City of London are exclusive to the City of London and that as soon as the bollards change, you know you are in a new Borough. But I noticed an even bigger indicators than mere bollards changing. The border was along a road. As I looked back towards City of London, it was a very clean, very impressive, historic borough with skyscrapers on it's horizon and just all round, a nice place. As I looked forward to Whitechapel, it well... It was a shithole. Litter, broken paving slabs, graffiti, new buildings which looked older because they were in dire need of repair. I'm sure that not all of Tower Hamlets is like this, but on that specific road, on that specific border, it was day and night. Like stepping out of a palace and into a trailer park. The difference between boroughs was stark. And you see this alot wandering around London. Camden was an area which is very Hipstery, embracing the strange, the fashionable and not being too bothered about graffiti seeing it as artistic expression. Meanwhile Greenwich is very nice, old fashioned, green and definitely feeling more traditional. Lambeth felt very run down despite the fact I went there specifically for a concert in what is a well known area of London for live music and entertainment. And then Kensington was filled to the brim with history and wealth. It is so diverse, it's hard to believe.

  • @TerryD15
    @TerryD15 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is the realtively small City of London and the area known as Greater London which is what most visitors think of a London. Ealing = Eeling. We have towns which were boroughs, I live near Market Harborough and went to a famous (in the UK) University in Loughborough, bothin the English Midlands and once worked in MiddlesBrough in the NE and of course also worked for a year recently In EdinBurgh in Scotland (both endings shortened versions of borough). You can also go to holiday towns on the coast such as Scarborough. A Borough basically is a self governing local area with it's own government (Councils) who are responsible for local amenities including schools, parks, leisure facilities, libraries, local roads, trash collection etc etc.(and usually Mayors - mostly ceremonial these days)

  • @anncoffey8375
    @anncoffey8375 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The last people in the world to teach others about geography and the pronunciation of British place names are USamericans.

  • @dilligaf73
    @dilligaf73 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was hilarious how the jokes went straight over your head.
    I grew up in havering and moved to neighbouring barking and Dagenham in 1990. These are 2 different boroughs but they interlocked theses boroughs and included Redbridge when it comes to certain things like health service (home care etc). Then there's the mental health team that covers North and East London (the other boroughs have different teams). So yes, we are separate, people in East London speak totally different to West London, there are posh areas and some not so posh (being polite), most stick to the areas they live so we don't usually venture further afield but we are all part of London

    • @AlanEvans789
      @AlanEvans789 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also grew up in Havering. Lived there until I joined the RAF in 1983. I'm now living in another borough, The Borough of Great Yarmouth. By the time I came out of the RAF in 92 I couldn't afford to move back anywhere close to London. Now in a little village on the Norfolk Broads, Yarmouth is a big brough.

    • @dilligaf73
      @dilligaf73 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlanEvans789 my rent is dearer here than when I lived in Dagenham.
      A very close friend of mine from havering also lives in great Yarmouth...small world

  • @cazzyuk8939
    @cazzyuk8939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greenwich Borough was given Royal status not long before 2012, can't remember exact year, & is now Royal Borough of Greenwich. Has this mainly as Greenwich was seat of Henry VIII, he set up & stocked Greenwich Park, the Royal Observatory is here, as well as the Royal Naval College & Maritme Museum as well as other Royal connections but was bestowed this by QE.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 ปีที่แล้ว

      Royal is reserved for boroughs that have a Royal Palace within the boundary. Doesn't have to be occupied by the Royal Family but be a part of the Crown Estate.

    • @weedle30
      @weedle30 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonys1636Queen Anne’s House (Palace) is IN Greenwich Park….

  • @-R.Gray-
    @-R.Gray- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also from Jay Foreman - "Why are British place names so hard to pronounce ?", "English Counties Explained".

  • @1337MRfresh
    @1337MRfresh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch more jay foreman! He’s great and you’ll learn a lot- as a Londoner is nice seeing you learn about the city. You should visit!

  • @johnsbone
    @johnsbone ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A borough is a "local council" - it is the school district, and the town planning authority, its voters elect "councillors" - some bigger cities in the UK do not have boroughs. Birmingham City for example is 1 million population. London's current 32 boroughs were formed in 1966. Outside of London the last big reinvention of local government was in 1972.

  • @Well-in-the-garden
    @Well-in-the-garden ปีที่แล้ว

    No this is fascinating. I had no idea this is how it happened. My parents lived in Hackney but then moved to the outer London suburbs and I grew up in several different boroughs. I was born in the London Borough of Carshalton but also lived in Wallington and Sutton but worked in Croydon as a teenager. Much later on as an adult I moved out of Surrey down to the South coast, so out of the London boroughs completely.

  • @HulaBeulah
    @HulaBeulah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What until you hear how Barking, Dagenham and Romford all got booted out of Essex and forced into London in 1965 thanks to this 32 borough idea causing a big argument that still happens to this day. Spoiler, we all say we are still in Essex when everyone else says "no you're not" 😉

  • @tintedspider4412
    @tintedspider4412 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey tyler just found your channel i,m loving it your reaction to the uk is funny ....

  • @ChrisGBusby
    @ChrisGBusby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Foreman brothers are both talented. Jay with is funny and educational videos and Darren who is better known as Beardyman, one of the best beatboxers around :)

  • @nigelgordon
    @nigelgordon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my lecturers at Law School had been working in the Civil Service when the new set-up was being done. Then he had just qualified as a solicitor. He said he would have about a hundred letters a day on his desk from people complaining about the naming of their boroughs.

  • @robward367
    @robward367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting about New-Ham.
    Borough comes from saxon I think, burh, you can see the connected language route to borough (Scotland has -burghs) bourg, berg, burgo etc in Europe?

  • @Dean256
    @Dean256 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to do part 2 which is the window on the top right at the end. Jay is amazing I have been subscribed to his channel for years. Watch his map men series they are great too. He even does one about America which I found fascinating being from the UK.

  • @jimbo6059
    @jimbo6059 ปีที่แล้ว

    The city of London is the original site of Roman London built in around ad 50. It has stayed roughly the same ever since. The 32 boroughs are a conurbation called Greater London and the borough's wrap themselves around the core. A lot of these outer boroughs were part of the county they came from such as Kingston upon Thames was in Surrey, a lot of these boroughs were swallowed up in the 1960s.

  • @TheRattyBiker
    @TheRattyBiker ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from the North in the UK and I'm familiar with Boroughs... But I learned something today. 👍

  • @j0hnf_uk
    @j0hnf_uk ปีที่แล้ว

    Most boroughs were their own separate hamlets or villages, but as time progressed, they were incorporated/swallowed up by the larger nearby towns/cities to become part of them. If you were to look at maps of some of these places from 100 years ago, you'd see the familiar names as villages or hamlets with roads linking them to neighbouring settlements. London was only ever the small part next to the river Thames, but as the city expanded, the surrounding places became part of it.

  • @maryannburnett5255
    @maryannburnett5255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Tyler nameexplain is good one to watch I liked the how London boroughs got there names

  • @pedanticlady9126
    @pedanticlady9126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jay's "Unfinished London" Series is full of interesting gems including stuff about London Bridge and Tower Bridge which many people confusingly think is the same thing. NOT! 🙂

  • @petejones7878
    @petejones7878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some of the new Boroughs ,also moved from county lines ,like Romford which used to be in Essex

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serendipitously, you have found a real TH-cam gem in Jay Foreman. He is hilarious and very witty and knowledgeable as you will continue to see in Part 2, Tyler. ENJOY:)

  • @robertofraser101
    @robertofraser101 ปีที่แล้ว

    So confusing eh ? Very enjoyable thank you hope you show part 2

  • @jollybodger
    @jollybodger ปีที่แล้ว

    I was amazed when I found out that the fantastically funny Jay Foreman is the brother of my favourite 2000s beat-boxer Beardyman.

  • @UnknownUser-rb9pd
    @UnknownUser-rb9pd ปีที่แล้ว

    Most cities grew by expanding into surrounding villages and towns, at least until green belt laws were implemented. This is why large cities end up with a series of mixed administrative areas, sometimes called boroughs.
    These administrative areas are usually controlled by elected local representatives (Councillors). Generally, a city also has a body of elected councillors that control functions that spread over the whole city. In London's case this is called the Greater London Council (GLC). The GLC looks after things like transport, non local roads, policing, economic development etc. that affect the whole city and are not applicable to a single borough.

  • @SirBradiator
    @SirBradiator ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely worth looking more into the City of London

  • @Joanna-il2ur
    @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Under the pre 1832 election laws, Parliament returned (had elections for) two members for every county in England and two burgesses for every borough, essentially larger towns, or what were larger towns in the 1360s. When Wales, then Scotland, then Ireland were added, the numbers increased. We developed over the centuries Rotten Boroughs and Pocket Boroughs. The former were towns where the population had massively declined, the most famous being Old Sarum in Wiltshire. As the water table dropped, all the locals moved to the valley below and founded New Sarum, which is now the beautiful city of Salisbury. Old Sarum declined till it had a tiny number of voters, yet it still returned two members to Parliament.
    A Pocket Borough was so called because one firm employed pretty much all the voters, so whoever the company boss favoured tended to get elected. Voting was in public, so everyone knew who you’d voted for. The atmosphere is well caught in Dickens’ Pickwick Papers, where Pickwick visits the imaginary town of Eatanswil (eat and swill, geddit), where there was an election. Said to be based on Haverhill, a town in Suffolk. The Great Reform Act of 1832 changed all that.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pocket boroughs were usually controlled by individual landowners not companies

    • @Joanna-il2ur
      @Joanna-il2ur หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pedanticradiator1491 But they owned companies which employed the majority of voters and if they valued their jobs they voted as the boss said. Voting was in public at the hustings. One such place was Haverhill, Suffolk, which is the Eatanswil of Dickens. There’s pedantic and there’s pointless.

  • @Joanna-il2ur
    @Joanna-il2ur ปีที่แล้ว

    The county of London was created in the 1880s out of bits of Kent, Surrey, Essex and Middlesex, the first new county in centuries. It was much smaller than Greater London, which was created in 1964. I used to work in Kingston and colleagues talked of ‘going to London’, when they were already in London. My big sister used to live in Sutton and denied she lived in London. I pointed out to her that it’s called The London Borough of Sutton. She wasn’t happy.

  • @richardj9016
    @richardj9016 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Check out part 6. It’s just incredibly interesting !

  • @ms.antithesis
    @ms.antithesis ปีที่แล้ว

    in the uk all counties are divides into boroughs. But sometimes counties encapsulate entire cities (ie. london) so whilst in most uk counties, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, West Midlands etc. the City portion is divided into a single borough within the county (City of liverpool borough, manchester city borough, birmingham borough) then the areas that aren't in that city have seperate boroughs (st.helens borough, wigan borough, dudley borough etc.) although sometimes the exact city lines aren't 1:1 with the borough lines. London is the only city in the uk that has its own county dedicated to a city due to its size, hence having it's own boroughs.

  • @chesterfieldeditsspierites9072
    @chesterfieldeditsspierites9072 ปีที่แล้ว

    "how could he do this to me" this is a brilliant line

  • @Londronable
    @Londronable ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in Belgium we're combining all sorts of small towns instead of splitting up big regions.
    Towns needed to be within walking distance to sell food originally and all that so 3-4 miles inbetween towns and each town having it's own mayor and all that would be rather wasteful. Think each church/market place that used to be it's own town now gets combined with it's neighbor closest by more or less.
    1 miles from my place there is a town center with a market place. But to get my town stuff done I need to travel another 3 miles to a different city center because the 2 towns belong under one banner.
    You could probably pick them out from a shot from the air.
    Big and small town with a lot of green around them close by? Probably one "region" but both towns would have a name and their own postal code.
    Big cities have a dozen of these "towns" hanging from them. Smaller cities have 1-3.
    Few that are like, totally on their own.

  • @philipmason9537
    @philipmason9537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are many videos just on The City of London, you should post one of those.
    The City is one of three absolutely unique places in the world with unique powers, the other two being Washington DC and The Vatican.
    Interestingly the second most powerful person in Britain after the Monarch is not the Prime Minister but the Lord Mayor of The City of London( very different from the London mayor of the other 31 boroughs).

  • @leecrockford8567
    @leecrockford8567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most cities in the UK have boroughs. It’s so each can be managed by it’s own council and mayors. I live in the borough of Sandwell

    • @michaelhammond5412
      @michaelhammond5412 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you consider Sandwell as part of Birmingham quite frankly you are a disgrace.

  • @Hard-Boiled-Bollock
    @Hard-Boiled-Bollock ปีที่แล้ว

    I decided to subscribe because you seem like a good guy

  • @johnhowe3772
    @johnhowe3772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeh - we want pt II !!

  • @DutchBlackMantha
    @DutchBlackMantha ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're confused about the City of London, you can watch Jay's video about that very topic. Than you can be bewildered instead.

  • @10C45E
    @10C45E ปีที่แล้ว

    Disputes over who owns what happens EVERYWHERE in the UK, all of the time. Its just part of living in such a diverse but small nation. You should visit sometime!

  • @rob11rr
    @rob11rr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Borough is pronounced as "Burrah" rather "Burrow" which is a place inhabited by rabbits. Hope this helps? Great video though, looking forwards to part two.

  • @linkspeaks
    @linkspeaks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please watch more of Jay Foreman's videos. They're all funny and all educational

  • @Allenryan819
    @Allenryan819 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Brooklyner from New York I hear that Camden is the London equivalent. I would like to visit that place one day?

  • @toranshaw4029
    @toranshaw4029 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who grew up in Ealing, we pronounce it as... Iealin'. 🙂
    Jay Foreman does make some really good videos, especially with his comedy sketches.

    • @The-Battle-Brother
      @The-Battle-Brother ปีที่แล้ว

      @toranshaw4029 It's pronounced E-ling. And you know it.

    • @toranshaw4029
      @toranshaw4029 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The-Battle-Brother not the way I say it...

  • @Brookspirit
    @Brookspirit ปีที่แล้ว +2

    London is basically a collection of villages that have merged together.

  • @loonyTlu
    @loonyTlu ปีที่แล้ว

    Re: boroughs. The term is probably related to the term “bureau”. Both are basically an autonomous administrative entity. Interestingly, the five boroughs of New York City are also their own counties, but the four outer counties answer to the larger authority of New York County, which is Manhattan. It’s why mail addressed to Manhattan are the only ones listing New York, NY.

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 ปีที่แล้ว

      The word borough comes from the Germanic Burg (or similar) meaning a fortified place I'm not sure if bureau has the same etymology

    • @mranima748
      @mranima748 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pedanticradiator1491Bureau comes from Purros, the ancient Greek term for red, not sure why

    • @pedanticradiator1491
      @pedanticradiator1491 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mranima748 thank you I didn't know that

  • @SvensssonboiMapping
    @SvensssonboiMapping ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should really react to more of Jay Foreman!

  • @MadnessQuotient
    @MadnessQuotient ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am sure you have exactly the same sort of local structures in the USA if you think about it. Even from abroad I am aware that you have elected councils, elected mayors, elected state assemblies, elected federal assemblies. Whether you call your councils "assembly" or "council" or some other term probably varies by state and how English/French/Spanish/German it was, and whether you use the term "borough" "county" or some other terms probably varies along similar lines.
    I would hazard a guess that a lot of this would make a lot more sense if you had the foundational knowledge of your own local systems already solidly built. But I guess this series wouldn't be the same if you were not a tabula rasa.

  • @danielferguson3784
    @danielferguson3784 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a city like London spreads it absorbs ancient villages & towns. These will already have been boroughs in their own right. Borough simply is an old term for 'town', hence in names like Scarborough, Marlborough, Peterborough etc. The video tries to explain how these have been
    organised in recent times. People often associate more with their home Borough than with London as a whole.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's more confusing for many is that many 'towns' within a borough have retained their old county in the postal address i.e. Bexley Kent and Richmond Surrey. Although the use of a county in a postal address has been superceded by Post Codes.

  • @ianbentley-rb7hs
    @ianbentley-rb7hs ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in what was then the Borough of Harrow in the County of Middlesex, it said so the front of my school exercise books. Then one morning in my mid teens I woke up to discover that overnight I had ceased to be a Middle Saxon and was now (horror of horrors), a Londoner 😱 Actually I soon discovered that nothing had really changed. There was no amalgamation with an adjoining bunch of Oiks and us Harrovians could continue to ignore the unwashed masses beyond our borders. The only difference seemed to be the gradual appearance of the word "London" in front of "Borough of Harrow" on the street signs. I think we came out of the whole sorry shambles rather well.🤗

  • @Temeraire101
    @Temeraire101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Suggestion you do a vid on London markets including Borough Market.

  • @carolinewood5580
    @carolinewood5580 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn as you do and watch other videos you make about uk

  • @mskatonic7240
    @mskatonic7240 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:00 Ealing, rhymes with feeling. Enfield = Hen Field without the H. You got Bexley and Lewisham right though!

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you may have missed the idea of the boroughs being administrative areas, so each borough has its own elected council and its own funds to spend on its own borough. They do have Mayors but that is largely a ceremonial role only. There used also to be a Greater London Council for London but its leader, Ken Livingstone, annoyed Margaret Thatcher by posting and updating the unemployment figures where they could be seen from Parliament just over the river Thames, so Margaret Thatcher abolished the GLC in 1986. The building is still there but was repurposed. A new body called the Greater London Authority (GLA) was created in 2000 because the 32 boroughs had some responsibilities that needed to be co-ordinated on a London wide basis.

  • @janetkizer5956
    @janetkizer5956 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I live in Vancouver, B.C., Canada. My city has what we call neighbourhoods, or communities. I guess, essentially, they're burroughs. I've lived in several -- Kitsilano, Dunbar, and Kensington/Cedar Cottage. And I'm familiar with others, such as Marpole and Point Grey. They are all very different from each other. Each one has a library branch, which is decorated in ways to illustrate the neighbourhood. Each has a Community Centre. Then the various grocery stores differ in each "burrough". It's fascinating. But the city as a whole is important, too. The city has a City Hall for all of Vancouver. The neighbourhood doesn't handle politics and stuff like that. But Vancouver is smaller than London, so we only have rhe one city government.
    But imagine Scotland being told they were now called England. Oh my God, Tyler. World War 3 would be nowhere near as violent. 😄

  • @Taylor23890
    @Taylor23890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wembley and Willesden now London borough of Brent . Absolute armpit

  • @armandoguzmannieves5472
    @armandoguzmannieves5472 ปีที่แล้ว

    To learn about the “City of London”, watch CGP Grey’s video on the topic

  • @jillhobson6128
    @jillhobson6128 ปีที่แล้ว

    A burrow is what a rabbit lives in. It's a burra.