LBJ Uncensored - The "Johnson Treatment" (December 20, 1963)
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- With friends like Lyndon Johnson, who needs enemies? Hear LBJ talk with "friend" Albert Thomas over a bill concerned with wheat sales to the Soviet Union. Fun fact: Johnson would run for re-election a year later with "that damn fool Humphrey" as his running mate.
REFERENCES
Opening image courtesy of Greg Meland
Audio and transcript
“Albert Thomas Gets the ‘Johnson Treatment.’” Miller Center, University of Virginia, 25 Mar. 2020, millercenter.o....
Image Credits
Doersam, Jim. “Thomas, Albert (1898-1966).” TSHA, Houston Chronicle, 2022, www.tshaonline....
“Lyndon Johnson Art.” Fine Art America, fineartamerica....
Okamoto, Yoichi. “LBJ Regretted Ordering U.S. Troops into Dominican Republic in 1965, White House Tapes Confirm; Yet He Insisted.” The National Security Archive, LBJ Library, 2017, nsarchive2.gwu....
I'm from rural Texas. And these tapes capture perfectly how the small town "courthouse politicians" (as my dad called them) conducted business. Direct, up-front, and a combination of threats and cajoling. LBJ was a classic example of these guys. Thanks so much for posting this!
You're most welcome :-D Glad they could be appreciated that deeply.
I recently saw a video of George W. Bush talk to Tony Blair with mics on. Mr. Blair was not ready for some of President Bush's words.
@@consigliere254none of us were ready for some of Dubya’s words
Excellent point.
I think it's superior to what we have now. Kamala to Trump: "You're weird." Wow. That was the best her writers at Time magazine could come up with. I miss the old days.
You screwed one last night.
I wish I did.
Priceless.
Lmao but it is sad that he cheated on his wife
Like Clinton@@Mago369
@@meganmose mhm sucks 😰
I said it and then he said it...
“Once, as Johnson prepared to leave an airport after a speech, an army staff sergeant noticed that the President was heading for the wrong helicopter. He said to LBJ, "Mr. President, that is your helicopter over there." Johnson threw one of his huge arms over the sergeant's shoulders and smiled. "Son, they are all my helicopters."
One of my favorite anecdotes :-D I strive to share it every year.
And also all helicopters involved in Vietnam operations. 😟😟😟
LBJ was a psychopath....and him...cliff Carter, Mac Wallace,billy sol Estes,and LBJ where part of a group led by LBJ....they ran a murder inc...in the 1960s.
What a idiot 😂
He were right, too lol
My favorite LBJ quote is "If you have their balls in your pocket, their hearts and minds will follow".
Johnson never relented on being blunt, that's for sure 😉 Is there any topic or thing you'd be interested in a tape for Johnson on?
I love those LBJ tapes. 😂 Makes Nixon and his crew sound like a bunch of Boy Scouts at the Soap Box Derby.
lbj is giving treatment’s to pass budgets, legislation, run government with Republicans. Only thing i ever heard on Nixon tapes was screwing other people via IRS, media, attacking journalists, i paranoia and us vs. them mentality which we have him to thank for todays partisan divide. dont recall a single time working phones to get votes other than trying to stop his impeachment
These LBJ tapes are great! Thanks for the upload, they're very interesting! Anymore that you have would be appreciated.
You're most welcome 😀 I'm finishing up another video, but I'll put that on my list to post soon.
This is actually fairly mild language for LBJ.
Very interesting audio of LBJ,and the politics of the day.
I was a boy when he and Lady Bird exited Air Force One at Sydney's Kingsford Smith airport on October 22nd 1966.
He'd flown to Australia seeking further support from the Australian government for the war in Vietnam.
Turbulent times nearly everywhere. Much like today.
Seems like history repeats and we never learn anything from it.
Thanks for the upload 😁👍
You're most welcome :-) That's really cool you had such an experience. I agree though; if anything, even if we learn something, we don't adapt the lessons well :-/
@@thehistoryguru7796 Thanks for your reply:)
Indeed, the airport and tarmac were absolutely crammed!
I sat on my dad's shoulders, everyone was waving the American and Australian flags, and there was non stop " hip hip hooray for LBJ " chanting.
I've still got the lapel badge made for the day 👍
0:51, The Johnson Treatment! Need more of these tapes. The REAL LBJ.
Thank you kindly for the suggestion 😀 I have another video I hope to finalize first, but I'll start seeing what else I can share.
This is great thanks Mr. History Guru.
You're most welcome :-) Very happy you enjoyed it.
This man was the man who "winked" at LBJ right before he was sworn in on Airforce One after the assassination
According to?
@@Guercinator look it up
@@Guercinator Watch the photo.
True
that’s another inference from right wing conspirator nuts. President Kennedy came to Texas to honor his personal good friend Thomas and headlined a dinner the night before he was murdered. Johnson and Thomas were in Texas politics for 25 years together and both adored JFK. Its an insult to repeat such a stupid rumor that a photo shows some type of sinister “ wink” insinuating they were collaborating with murder or glad they were there. The record and facts from eyewitnesses and the record bear nothing of the sort on that plane
I don’t know much about Johnson, don’t really like him for full involvement in Vietnam, but I do like him for his realism and humor.
What about his civil rights bills?
@@1984isnotamanual that was good
@@ShaquilleOatz he also helped create Medicaid/Medicare and made Social Security more robust
I wish we had more clips of that. This video showcases his lack of realism and humor.
I wish I did 💀
One of my favorite parts too ;-)
Exactly what I was thinking lmaooo
I hear they will release Hilliary’s private tapes….right after hell freezes over…
War criminal, genocide , selfish, arrogant, disloyal ( Kennedy).
His heart failed to him... Course!
58000 young ghosts haunting him every night.
Have to admit he is kind of funny when he doesn’t mean to. I don’t disagree he’s shit because he got us into Vietnam
Ain't that the "Winker" on Air Force 1?.......
LBJ could be a lot rougher on his allies than this. He's clearly guying Thomas in a way he knows will go down okay, but letting him know he finds the reporting clause too constraining. Thomas seems like he's heard it before and is cool as a cucumber.
Bill, that is the great explanation.
I don't think anyone was able to push as much legislation through as president LBJ did. All in all, one of my most favorite presidents.
Same; his legislative acumen is one of the things I try to highlight most. It bothers me that the credit for what he signed goes to JFK, and while Vietnam rightly tarnishes LBJ's record, the fact JFK escapes blame for what he left also is another thing I strive to stress to my students.
@@thehistoryguru7796 yes! There's a lot of evidence pointing to JFK pulling troops for the election, and then entering Vietnam anyway. I can't imagine a country that does not have aspects of the Great Society in it. Not to mention, civil rights.
Your students are very lucky, as you seem to be a very unique and effective Teacher!
Descpicable human being and one of the worst presidents in history
1:17 does that mean President Johnson expects former Vice President Richard Nixon to be his opponent in 1964?
Maybe. Or maybe he was just concerned - rightfully - over Nixon's extremely aggressive anti-Russia politicking.
I started reading a biography for every President; I got to Johnson this past spring. Robert Caro: an excellent, exhaustive (almost exhausting) choice. Unfortunately the volume covering the campaign of 1964 isn't out yet :-/ So my guess is he expected Nixon as nominee, but only a guess.
@@thehistoryguru7796Love the content! You're doing great work; keep it up. I just started Caro's "Working" -- basically a skinny book he wrote to demonstrate his process and why it takes him so long to churn out these volumes. Highly recommend it. I'm starting "Path to Power" right after I'm done...how is/was it? I've seen a ton of interviews with Caro and I like his style. Worth the read?
Why didn't any member of LBJ's family have the grace to attend the dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. After all, it was LBJ who escalated the war but had no intent or plan to win.
That is a pretty spartan assessment of that time in history. Yes LBJ escalated the war effort, thinking the the US would prevail. This was the first proxy war we had participated in and hadn't learn the lesson that you can't win a war for another country if that country lacks the resolve to win. I'm a fan of LBJ, but not for that stupid war. The civil rights laws that were passed with his leadership, the anti-pverty programs he started, the voting rights law that were passed more than off set the failures of Viet Nam.
He was definitely a character; have you ever read Robert Caro's series on him?
I can’t believe this isn’t AI presidents 💀
I know right? I couldn't believe Nixon said his infamous "It's not illegal" quote till I heard the Frost clip myself. Johnson was... something.
That's all right! PERIOD!
And Reports each......
NO! NO! PERIOD!!!
He ain't gonna run....he just becomes 37th president the following year LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
This was in 1963. Nixon didn't run for POTUS (and win) until 1968.
As a Texan this man was buffoon of epic proportions.
He was also extremely corrupt!
@@rhrh2025 he was also deadly just ask kennedy.
His dong was of epic proportions.
But Civil Rights Act and Medicare/Medicaid, last time a President actually got a decent domestic agenda passed.
Sounds like you're the buffoon.
@@trinihammer haha baseless conspiracies are so fun
Tremblay Port
Wow
How old was that girl...🤔
so bad. vietnam blood on his hands !
and JFK's blood
Kennedy's role in mismanaging Vietnam shouldn't be ignored though. And whatever one's take on his death, it should be clear after the last release of classified documents 5 years ago that Johnson had no role.
@0:57 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This doesn't feel like 60 years ago honestly
Because it ain’t it’s over 60 years ago
God I love history. LBJ was some kind of politician. But maybe not? How you let You let the war in South East Asia get out of hand in so fast. Believe me all your other things don’t mean shit
Your just sitting there signing bills. For a photo shoot
One of our best. Standing up for civil rights and social welfare far outweighs Vietnam in my eyes. We need another like him, from the South.
I agree about civil rights and social welfare, but then I didn't lose a child, brother, parent, or a limb in Vietnam. I can understand those who consider the unnecessary (at best) loss of life and mutilation of soldiers to outweigh the social benefits. What I don't get is how many people look at me blankly when I bring up all the good legislation LBJ pushed through, because the only historical facts they know about him have to do with Vietnam.
This is true. Kennedy was one of the most mediocre presidents in our history and could have never passed civil rights. At the time of his death, the proposed legislation was going nowhere
@@laurak8240 I was always more interested in his legislation than I was with Vietnam. I'm sorry about your losses. Like any sane person I was completely horrified hearing about Vietnam and the atrocities there to put it simply, but I also partly put the blame on Nixon for not only continuing it but expanding it into Laos and Cambodia. His "secret plan" was a load of crap, and our defeat was humiliating. Good job Nixon, you sucked.
Lindy spoke a bit brasher. Bet Lady Bird got after him about such language.
I don't know much about their relationship; I know Bess got on Harry Truman. I can say with the request for more LBJ, I found audio of a call they shared that's on my list to prepare and post.
1:54 'Running for office'?
Are you sure this is December 1963, just four weeks after LBJ became President?
Thank you for asking. Yes; the LBJ Presidential Library confirms it with the source audio. Nixon had yet to rule out accepting the nomination. Furthermore, this confirms the date: www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-the-president-the-death-representative-albert-thomas-texas.
@@thehistoryguru7796 Thank you.
But I got the impression that LBJ was referring to a Democrat running for office rather a Republican - which seems very strange when LBJ had only been President for 4 weeks.
@@ppuh6tfrz646 1964 was an election year also..... So LBJ was going to be voted in or out on his own right within 11 months from this call
@@leebrock7151 Yes, that's a good point and it's absolutely true but to me it seems very early to make reference to that so soon after becoming President.
Is it just me, or has swearing evolved over the years? Seems like the older generations swore a lot, but it was all "damn, goddam, hell, son-of-a-bitch", etc. Maybe the odd shit and fuck thrown in for seasoning.
Now, it's basically just the f-word in nearly every sentence. Is this progress? I don't get it.
Not just you! I thought the same on my first hearing of this recording.
Felipe Falls
Humphrey was against the war at first, but then he caved to LBJ for a while. But had he been elected the war wouldn't ended quick; instead under Nixon it escalated over 5 more years. And I wish I did too
What? Are you joking? I was in the Marines in 1969. Nixon became president in '69 and pulled the 3rd Marine Division out in Nov. of '69 as you know. I was also at Camp Pendleton in April of 1971, and the 1st Marine Division, the last Marine Division in the War came out of Vietnam in April of '71. And that left just one US Division in Vietnam. So in just 2.5 years all the Marine were out----and just one Army Division of the 9 that served in Vietnam were out of the War. Nixon was pulling us out within a year of getting into office. When did you serve to not know that? How is that escalating the War----as you said in your comment. And 3 years after the US pulled our ground troops out-----Saigon fell. Nixon promised to get us out----and he did. Now both Obama and Trump promised to get US troops out of Afghanistan-----and didn't. So I give Nixon a lot of credit for ending the War and getting a truce. We have zero Idea if Humphrey would have gotten us out sooner. Hurphrey could have been like Obama and Trump-----who knows.
Albert thomas the guy he winked at on air force one..
WOW TOUGH
The demise of America can be traced back to Johnson !
As bad as he was, it goes back farther. 16th and 17th amendments and there was decay that allowed those to be passed. You can probably go back to disillusionment over the Civil War.
...and the GD Beatles...........
Oh no, segregation is illegal and black people cant be prevented from voting. The horror.
The Johnson Treatment is what he called a session with Lady Bird and Jumbo.
Bluff & bull butter...LBJ
it's amazing to hear older than dirt limousine liberals bashing Nixon when he was flanked by lbj and carter.
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Wait who did he screw that made him look pro Russian?
From what I understand, the draft bill required the President to report on grain trade with the Soviets. Johnson obviously preferred there be no legal reporting requirement.
Russia, Russia, Russia Democrats Democrats Democrats😂
Lol, isn't past your bedtime 😂😂😂
I love LBJ. But if the date is to be believed Kennedy wasn’t dead a month. You would think politics wouldn’t yet be up for discussion.
Another Godless Ruler.
But an interesting one!
Very much so! One of my favorite to cover, especially in the spring :-)
A very funny one
I hated johnson...he picked his dogup byhis ears....I was 10....I still hate him....he had Kennedy killed
Bullshit
Mr. KKK himself.
The KKK endorsed his opponent Barry goldwater. How would that even make sense?
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LBJ...the worst president in my lifetime...until Biden.
You know it's bad when even Robert Caro, a longtime democrat, couldn't overlook his flaws.
Lol, I can tell you living in mommy's basement 😂😂
Then you are a civic incompetent or a clown: Head Start, Medicare, Medicaid, and a whole host of improvements to the country and its future under the Great Society for LBJ - historians put him in the top 15 presidents consistently. For Joe Biden - he got us out of a thankless war, launched the largest infrastructure law since the interstate highways were started, began long overdue efforts to start addressing climate change, and created new national monuments. Already Biden is a great president.
LBJ was not bar Obama and Biden are awful
LBJ all the way 💯