Talks With SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI - Muslim Visitors
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- Ramana Maharshi Talks with Muslim Visitors that came to Ramana Ashram and clarifies their doubts. Ramana Maharshi explains the significance of Self-Enquiry, similarity of Self-Enquiry with Bhakti and talks about Idol-Worship with Muslim Visitors. These Talks With Ramana Maharshi and Teachings of Ramana Maharshi are enlightening, insightful and will provide a lot of clarity to spiritual seekers. The content in this video is taken from - "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi". The original video footage of Maharshi belongs to Sri Ramana Ashram committee.
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This video was very enlightening sir. 🙏🏽
@savedchristian4754 Firstly, Jesus taking on sins of his disciples is nothing to brag about. It also signifies that Jesus probably found his disciples and devotees incompetent to do any spiritual practice so He had no option to undergo the pain of crucifixion by taking their sins and cause their spiritual advancement. So really, it just shows your spiritual incapabilities whenever you brag about Jesus taking sins upon himself. Moreover, if we go your way and acknowledge what Jesus did as something great and special, then do know that Jesus isn't the only one to do that "sin-taking" thing. What Jesus did, every other Hindu sage did (that too without making a big fuss out of it). It's just a yogic method (which Jesus learned after visiting Indian subcontinent during his lost years) which is employed by the sages and seers, by taking upon the paap (negative) karmas of their devotees and disciples, out of compassion, so as to bless them and help them pave way to their liberation. Sri Ramana Himself did so. The miracles Jesus performed are not even a big deal in front of the Hindu sages, because guess what, they all have performed numerous much higher mind-blowing miracles (these are called yogic siddhis). Those around Jesus may have gotten shocked by his display of those miracles as there was hardly another genuine sage over there, but really, it's just a common thing here in Hinduism which has produced 1000s of enlightened sages and rishis. Moreover, that sin-taking which Jesus did, applies to only those who were present there at that time. Doesn't apply to any of us. Otherwise Bible wouldn't say "we're born sinners" if Jesus really took everybody's sins who weren't even born then. We're all responsible for our own karmas and have to pave way to our liberation from samsara. Besides Spirituality and Spiritual means and practices existed thousands of years before Jesus even came. Jesus, with all due respect to him, isn't the only way and the world, as you may believe isn't just 6000 years old. 😇
@@HinduismAsItIswell said, couldn't have been articulated in a better way. Sick of these blind fanatics spewing their crap everywhere!!
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Jesus being a Rishi minded we seldom like to dishonour.......
because we are the Rishi Heritage both visibly and invisibily.🔥👍
Dear all, @savedchristian4754's comments were removed due to excessive hatred, baselessness, biasness, bigotry and complete lack of truth. He was merely spamming the same disrespectful and hateful comments towards Hindu Teachings, Gods and Sages and showed not even the slightest acceptance and inclusivity. I didn't want others to read any of his nonsense and waste their precious time and energy, or potentially stoop down to his level in the process of replying/reacting to him. I really appreciate your time and efforts to watch the video and also trying to explain about the beauty of spirituality and that there are multiple paths to truth. But some people are blind and cannot look beyond "1 God, 1 Prophet, 1 Book".
I must say muslim visitors really asked nice questions. 😄 Maharshi surely answered and explained them beautifully as usual. 😇
Haha, yes, the visitors asked good questions and like you said, Maharshi guided them very beautifully. 😇🙏🏻
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@@savedchristian4754 if your ill, it is you who should take the medicine, not Jesus nor anyone.
@@savedchristian4754 so popes who all died did not believe in Jesus is it?
@savedchristian4754 Firstly, Jesus taking sins of his disciples, is nothing really to brag about. It also signifies that Jesus probably found his disciples and devotees incompetent to do any spiritual practice so He had no option to undergo the pain of crucifixion by taking their sins and cause their spiritual advancement. So really, it just shows your spiritual incapabilities whenever you brag about Jesus taking sins upon himself. Moreover, if we go your way and acknowledge what Jesus did as something great and special, then do know that Jesus isn't the only one to do that "sin-taking" thing. What Jesus did, every other Hindu sage did (that too without making a big fuss out of it). It's just a yogic method (which Jesus learned after visiting Indian subcontinent during his lost years) which is employed by the sages and seers, by taking upon the paap (negative) karmas of their devotees and disciples, out of compassion, so as to bless them and help them pave way to their liberation. Sri Ramana Himself did so. The miracles Jesus performed are not even a big deal in front of the Hindu sages, because guess what, they all have performed numerous much higher mind-blowing miracles (these are called yogic siddhis). Those around Jesus may have gotten shocked by his display of those miracles as there was hardly another genuine sage over there, but really, it's just a common thing here in Hinduism which has produced 1000s of enlightened sages and rishis. Moreover, that sin-taking which Jesus did, applies to only those who were present there at that time. Doesn't apply to any of us. Otherwise Bible wouldn't say "we're born sinners" if Jesus really took everybody's sins who weren't even born then. We're all responsible for our own karmas and have to pave way to our liberation from samsara. Besides Spirituality and Spiritual means and practices existed thousands of years before Jesus even came. Jesus, with all due respect to him, isn't the only way and the world, as you may believe isn't just 6000 years old. 😇
Love Sri Krishna,this STATE OF MIND is Only Mukti 😃👍🙏Radhe Radhe Hare Krishna 🙏
Radhe Krishna! 🙏🏻😇✨
Give me the reason to Love Krishna?
@@agnijitdeb1558- Bhagavan Sri Krishna is the original teacher, the source of all that is. 🙏 Krsna is Love, Krsna is the Greatest Pleasure.🕉️🙏🌷🌻
@@agnijitdeb1558- Saranagati 🙏 Krishna Nama Dhare Koto Bal 🙏 Hari Om Tat Sat
@@Rosemary-u5z3ySo many people are dying everyday. What is Krishna doing then? How can you love him inspite of him not doing anything? I am asking a very basic question of spirituality my friend. Even great spiritual masters have had these questions. And they also had answers to these. But the sad part is, you are telling others to praise the lord. But in reality you are not convinced enough that Krishna exists. I ask again why did Krishna create this world where people are dying painful and disgraceful death all the time?
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A Vaishnava devotee, who was a high official at Simla, brought all the idols [murtis] that he worshipped daily, and handed to Sri Bhagavan, probably desiring the sanctity of Sri Bhagavan's touch. Sri Bhagavan seemed much interested in examining them.
The devotee said, "Bhagavan, people scoff at me, calling me a superstitious idolater."
Sri Bhagavan told him, "Why don't you retort by calling them worse idolaters? For, do they not wash, dress, embellish, feed and thus 'worship' their body so many times every day? Is not the body the biggest idol? Then who is not an idol worshipper?"
~From: Sri Ramana Reminiscences
Spectacular fiery reply by Maharshi!! Wish more and more people read his divine teachings. 🙌
@@god_1437 Definitely, in the coming days more people will get to know about Maharshi. 🙏🏻😇
What a sharp and clear reply, only Bhagwan can come up with something this simple but piercing. 🙏🙏
Yes good question and Bhagavan sriRamana answered very well
Yes. Sri Bhagavan always answers beautifully. 🙏🏻😇
Ironically every question posed by the Muslims was to deride Hindu rituals, idol worship, etc. Maharshi 's reply was typical of The Maharishi. But there are innumerable Saints from Hindu culture/backdrop who have always stated all paths lead to the One. Not a single Muslim/Xtian Saint who advocate the same... This is the essential difference between the Hindu God is One & the Abrahamic concept of there is only one God
Maharshi always tries to direct the attention of the seeker to the core of one's being. 🙂 Yes, you rightly said, majority of Christians and Muslims won't acknowledge that "all paths lead to one". However, there are certain minor sects and schools of Muslims (Sufis) and Christians (Christian Mysticism), which do acknowledge non-duality with God and oneness of everything. Their thoughts and ideas to some extent correlate with Advaita Vedanta school of Hinduism. But their count is minimalistic and their thoughts and teachings often suppressed by mainstream Christianity and Islam, which is very much dualistic in nature.
Very well said
Jai gurudev
Muslims worship idol too. They turn to Mecca five times a day and pray to a black stone kept sacred in the Kaba. That black stone looks just like a Shivling. When they go to Mecca, they circumbulate around that black stone. Yet they say they do not do idol worship.
That's there, plus, as Sri Ramana Maharshi also said, the body is the biggest idol. One who is attached to the body and worships it (feeds it, takes care of it and gives it pleasures), is the biggest idol worshipper anyways. 😇
Yes. Circumbulating is an ancient practice that Hindus have been doing for ages since ancient times. If you tell a Muslim they are also doing paganist rituals then they will give some lame excuse to show that they are not 😂
Maan ki woh sudhatam abasta jisko real self or atma bolte hai, mahamaya ki ahambritti khel se alag janna hi ek matrya jivan ka lakshya hai, jaha consciousness apne peak pe hota hai wohi liberation hai
Beautiful. 🙏🏻😇
Its so crazy that Muslims have been so looked down upon. A true Muslim is a great being.
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God has no form but idol is an image that instills God in your heart. If there is no physical form then human becomes animal.
Imagine a child who has a notion of father but never seen physical presence. The child in both situations grows up differently
Basically God was tired of sending messengers and decided to send one final message to humanity!
He was not happy that his message through Jesus was corrupted by humans. So he thought deeply and
chose a person who didn’t know how to read and write!
He decided to deliver the final message for humanity to few people in Mecca as a verbal sermon!
Prophet everyday will tell the humans, God says this and that for 24 years and died of poison!
He never delivered the message as a book to humans!
10 years After his death, followers collected the verses from people memory and scribbled cloth and compiled the holy book!
God didn’t not give read write ability to messenger and messenger never learned to read and write during his life time! Satan delivered many messages by moving the mouth of messenger for seven years and made him pray the daughters of Allah!
When Jewsish people questioned the one God concept then only he realized satan was playing with him!
And God, he dint even know satan was delivering messages to his messenger and adding verses !
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how the important project was executed by the creator of Galaxy and universe!
GNANI (gnon/gnos latin greek/sanskrit) not gyani...
Well, Gnosis, firstly, has a different pronunciation than the actual word "ज्ञानी", although very similar meaning. Infact, the word "Gnani" is as linguistically and technically incorrect as "Gyani", "Jnani", "Nyana" or any other english version of the word ज्ञानी. The actual pronunciation of the word cannot be portrayed in English. English isn't the proper language for capturing and effectively presenting the Sanskrit words anyways. Language is primarily meant to communicate things and facilitate transmission of information. It's enough that people get the intended meaning and info, instead of getting too stuck with words, spellings and etymology. 🙂
Basically, 'I' am Allah.
"I" is the indeed the name of God. It's His very essence. 🙏🏻✨
SOHUM.SOHUM.
Soham! 😇✨
The spàce book says Allah has one leg and two hands on the right side only. It will put its foot on hellfire on the day of judgement and cry if anybody is still left to be burnt in hellfire. So much for formlessness
Indeed, the "formless" God will naturally be "boundary-less" and thus "all-pervading" by default. Which means God pervades or is within material existence too and so the followers of formless God should have no problems with Murti Puja. People don't even get the basics cleared out and often tweak the definition and characteristics of God and verses of the scriptures, based on their own limited understanding and to prove their opinion as right.
If you are the body why do they bury the corpse after death? The body must refuse to be buried?
Me: umm...because after death there's no me? There's no consciousness of the body. Without consciousness it has no will. Is it not guruji?
I would have stopped him there. But anyhow I know he is a great sage.😅
No, you couldn't have stopped Him. Firstly the question posed by Maharshi was in reference to previous discussion that happened and it was not standalone. You cannot ignore the previous convo and if you take it into consideration, you couldn't have come up with that answer as there's a shift of position and stand. If you see carefully, the answer given by Maharshi was in the context of theism (to Muslims) where existence spirit and afterlife is acknowledged. The answer given to atheistic minds and those who deny the spiritual world and reality, would have been different. Perhaps just silence. Haha.
Nevertheless, your answer still explains what Maharshi was trying to highlight - that body is not you! If it was you, it would have been valued by others and not buried even after death. Death also would have been meaningless because body is verily there, as before. You said there's "no me" after death. What is this "me" which was there before and not there after death? That individuality or consciousness, needs to be realized in its true sense and that's what Maharshi always emphasized to do when He stressed upon knowing and enquiring "who am I?" to those who visited Him. Knowing who one really is, is what spirituality is all about. 😇
@@HinduismAsItIsNo and no. That we are valued... is a fallacy of a concept...only our work is. In fact there is no me and I doubtful there's even a we. And I am an agnostic by the way... so whether god or divinity exists or not is absolutely immaterial to me.
Also if he remained silenced then it is only self explanatory that I had stopped him.😊
@@uselesshero.official That's not even the point. The point is people don't bury a living person, but they do bury a corpse. The difference between life and death is not the body but something else, which proves our real nature and value isn't in the body. Even a child would get it but you aren't. Perhaps you just wanna prove your point too desperately and thus ignoring to acknowledge the obvious. And secondly if God or divinity is immaterial to you, why even bother to poke your nose and reply unnecessarily about things you have no interest, or no idea about? Why comment here in the first place and not bother your own business and go on with your life? Also, FYI Maharshi used to stay silent to those who weren't genuinely interested to learn and just wanted to show themselves off as smart or intellectual and argue blindly to prove oneself right. To every genuine person who wanted to seek and grow spiritually, He answered. So His silence to you would have been a sign that He knows you're not there to learn and just wish to show off your limited knowledge (or personal opinions) or that doesn't see there's any worth in answering you. It's not that you would have stopped or silenced him out of your "profound" intellectual skills. No one could - and there were many much smarter ones that visited Him. His logics and explanations were flawless and sometimes way too advanced for many to fathom and comprehend. 😇
@@HinduismAsItIs yes exactly...nicely articulated👌🏻
God is formless as per vedas it is sin to worship God in forms
Only an dumb Abrahamized mind will tell god is formless and cannot come in murti.
If your god is only formless, then your god is incomplete, it doesn't have omnipresence and omniscience
I'd just say that to ascribe any limitations or restrictions to God and thus believing that He cannot appear in forms for His devotees; to confine Him in some far off corner in space-time continuum, is a straight up disrespect to God's omnipotent, omniscience and omnipresence. 🙏🏻😇
They also literally worship a stone... So like... What's that about?😂
And a man on a cross
not gyani, Gnyani
Namaste I was born Muslim I was introduced by chance to the teachings of Bhagavan. The first thing I realized is that there is no such thing as religion There is no mosque, ashram, church, shrine or temple You check in with yourself, you enjoy your existence Everything external has nothing to do with these teachings. Just move your attention inward And stay there ❤
Uhh kids like you think we are going to believe you. You are a Hindu lying here. 😓
Namaste. Nice to hear you were introduced to teachings of Bhagavan. All His Grace! The Divinity is all pervading. It's within you for sure but also outside, as it's not confined or limited in any way. If one can really dwell within, one will realize the inner divinity alone exists everywhere. However many, infact almost all are only at beginner level and aren't that mature or ready to turn inwards and their attention and focus compulsively is drawn outward only. So the religion (speaking from Hindu context only) emphasizes on the external means of temples, pilgrimages, murtis, books, certain practices and rituals etc. act as a very strong aid and steadily purify the mind and guide one to go deeper within and pave way to Self-realization. Sri Ramana Himself too was driven by devotion to Lord Shiva and Arunachala since childhood and always had been fascinated by tales of 63 Nayanmars. Even after attainment of self-realization, He walked all the way to Arunachaleshwara Temple, hugged the Lingam in that temple, spent years there inside temple and later continued to write hymns and poems on Lord Arunachala. He spent nearly 6 decades on the sacred Arunachala Hill and shed the body there. So it's not like "everything external is good for nothing". Infact, "External - Internal" is essentially a mental divide. Divinity/Self/God - which is your true Self, is omnipresent, all-pervading (both within and without) and the sole reality of existence. 🙏🏻😇
One goes yo kindergarten, then the primary school, to secondary school, then to the college or university. The one that's in the university does not condemn the secondary education. The one in secondary school does not say we don't need primary schools.
This is the difference between Abrahamic religions and the Eastern religions.
You are lucky 🎉
@@silvarajoomuniandy4316Abrahamic religions are political parties in religious guise.
Islamic mystic in Persia said the same thing for which he got killed. he said Anail al Haq …which is “I am truth “., Anal al haq is state of dropping your ego and any impurity that comes between you and divinity. Mansur al-Hallaj recited,
“I saw my Lord with the eye of the heart
I asked, ‘Who are You?’
He replied, ‘You.’
Bruv most indian or rather punjabi sikhs know about mansour more than muslims ,
Yes, I'm aware. It's really unfortunate that the ones who know the truth and speak it out get silenced by the ignorant majority, in one way or the other.
Question why this happened to him also lies in the answer for the question whom am I
Question why this happened to him also lies in the answer for the question whom am I
@@bharathwajseshadri7514how so?
I am glad that muslim asked a question rather than exploding.
Well, back then there was relatively little more receptivity and openness towards culture and spiritual wisdom. Some Muslim devotees and disciples of Maharshi were there too. The receptivity is there today still, but very very minimal. Almost next to zero. Secondly, you know, in Yoga tradition and scriptures, it's said that even the most violent minded people and creatures become peaceful, calm and quiet in the presence of a siddha yogi/jivanmukta/realized being. So Maharshi's presence had a great impact too. Even wild and harmful creatures like snakes, leopards etc. used to become calm and peaceful in His presence. 🙏🏻😇
@@HinduismAsItIs no you are wrong. They were less in number. They have tendency when they are less.. they become super nice to blend... But when they outnumbered that's when the problem start. Look at Persia, labenon, Afghanistan past.
These and similar other queries have been answered in classical literature.B S K Murthy. Udupi.
Those times they were human. Not animals
@@Eternall23452in 7 th century when to decimated all idols in arab & claimed monopoly, took slaves & sex slaves of widows how much more humanity existed 😂, today we are in a hindu majority nation with laws & ruled intact to protect else I don’t know man same humanity displayed 1400 yrs ago would have played up again.
Osho always says- Abrahamics are like little kids and trying to teach them complex spiritual ideas beyond what shallow knowledge they have is like teaching a 4th grader neuroscience - you'll get frustrated and the kid will learn nothing.
Very few of them tend to be open, respectful and understanding but well, majority is outrightly closed, hateful and dismissive of anything outside their book.
Thanks for this video of Ramana Maharishi ❤️
A religion has one God to worship and one Holy-book to follow. So, Hinduism is not a religion. It offers several ways of life to different classes to people, to realise the Self within 🙏🏽
@@porkoudayakumar118 It's my pleasure! Hinduism is indeed much more broad and open as it has innumerable texts, paths, philosophies and methods to reach the ultimate. It caters to all kinds of people and has ample to guide everyone and make them grow in life, in one way or the other. Glad that you liked the video! Please feel free to watch other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
We are seekers not believers like other abrahamic religions. Our Sanatan Dharma is enquiry system not belief system where you will have to believe and follow commandments. All the shastras we have are full of experiential knowledge, where instructions and methods are given based on direct experiences and that is what is called Science by definition.
There is no one book, one god, one belief, commandments, fear of heaven-hell, we do not even aspire for heaven like abrahamic believers. We are God loving people not God fearing people.
My token of thanks for this beautiful video. Your soothing voice makes it even more touching and divine! Keep it up 🤍
Thanks for your warm and kind remarks! Much appreciated. By God's Grace, this work will keep going. 🙏🏻😇✨
That’s an infantile question. It is common knowledge, at least for Hindus, that God is formless and idols are used only for the simplicity of human minds to focus. Advanced minds like yogis and rishis do not need idols. Understand?
Yeah, it's a basic understanding. God is essentially formless and can still appear in Saguna forms through His power of yogmaya and murti worship establishes the emotional connection with the divine, aids concentration, purifies the mind and boosts devotion, among other things, on the spiritual path. There's also the concept of prana-pratishtha wherein essence of God is invited, invoked and awakened in the murti through mantras and rituals and then the murti isn't seen as a mere lifeless symbol, or rocky figure/idol, but holds an actual/living presence of the God. Nevertheless yes, eventually as you advance, the "need" to worship the murti for spiritual development isn't there, although many highly advanced ones too may still continue the murti-worship, not out of need or helplessness, but as a respect to their corresponding traditions, or simply out of devotion, or just to emphasise on this good habit among other people/newcomers who may visit them. Also certain Hindu traditions/sects may not follow or emphasize on this murti-worship practice, but they too, if authentic, typically don't dismiss it or discourage/attack it and acknowledge its inherent value, impact, beauty and significance. 🙏🏻
Krishna has a form, various acharyas like Ramanujacharya, Madhvacharya, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada have spoken on this important point. The Bhagavad-gita (10.12) also says He is purusham sasvatam, an eternal person. His form is not made of matter which has a beginning and and end. This is very difficult to understand and accept initially for modern minds because form is usually associated with limitations. But Krishna's form is different as Zhe has showed in various instances and mentioned in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. He expanded Himself into 16,108 forms for His 16,108 queens in Dvaraka. He showed His Visvarupa, the entire cosmos within His body. So there is no limitation. One of the mantras we chant to describe Him is Om anantaya namah meaning He is unlimited. This things can be appreciated by rendering service unto Krishna under the guidance of a bonafide spiritual masteras mentioned in the Bhagavad-gita (4.34, 18.55). Please read Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada's books, be in touch with the Global Hare Krishna movement. Hope this helps all. Hare Krishna!
Lord indeed has no limitations of any kind. Hare Krishna! Namah Shivaye! 🙏🏻😇
This video made me feel really calm and peaceful. Ramana Maharshi's words act like magic!! Truly he is one of the greatest human manifestation of God. 🙏🏻
Pleased to hear that you felt so. All Maharshi's Grace. And yes, Sri Ramana is the divine incarnate for sure! 🙏🏻✨
⚪By the grace of Bhagavan, your divine voice makes my mind to be still sometimes while watching this kind of videos those which reveal our "real nature"...✨
I think Bhagavan's grace is increasing upon you day by day...🙏😇✨
Glad to know you feel that way. 🙏🏻😇 Happy to make these videos and serve others spiritually. Bhagavan's Grace is on us all. ✨
Wonderful! Om namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya 🙏💖
Thank you! Namo Ramanaye 🙏🏻😇✨
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@@Mariella.Sophia my name is sattya I am from India ! What about you ?
@@sattyamevjayate6183 ha ha
Why human pray ancient idols? Ancient idols are very very important in knowledge,,,,not in religious aspect,,,,human brain was designed to store knowledge as images not in calculations every time how they face every time every moment human face couldn't be calculated but it store in brain as image and listening,,,calculations only to understand the god concept but humans have only way to implement through image idol called story and listening,,,calculations couldn't hold longer for human civilization great live long sanathan dharm
Greatest knowldge video i ever watched! Hinduism is not in books its in the life and teachings of these saints and maharashis !
Glad you liked the video. The life of sages is the best representation and depiction of Religion and Spirituality. 🙏🏻😇✨
@@HinduismAsItIs yes sir, thanks ! Knowledge or philosophy in books is like we heard " sugar is sweet" and life and experiences with a sage are like we eat the sugar and experience the sweetness ourselves! Best wishes for your work sir !
Totally TRUE. Difficult to understand Vedas and Upanishads and Bhagavadgita even after knowing Sanskrit. But life histories of Sages and Saints of any religion are very helpful to know about the Creation and Creator
Ous shastras also contains only experiential knowledge, instructions, enquiries, tested methods and same is displayed through the life of our great sages.
Vedanta is the highest spiritual knowledge it is found in the vedas from which the upanishads blooms from
It was blissful to listen to it. Beautiful conversation. May all be blessed may all attain peace
Many thanks! Glad to hear that you felf blissful while going through the video. Maharshi's words are pearls of widdom indeed. Please also feel free to watch the other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
Our ancestors pondered upon and explored all the possible questions the human mind can formulate before arriving at a practical way of spititual life bridging the Finite with infinite, the psychic with the Spiritual, and the subtle with the gross.
So true indeed! Please feel free to watch other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
Sincere, honest, unprejudiced questions with the intention of seeking answers will enable true understanding of the answers.
Absolutely, well said. 🙏🏻✨
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@savedchristian4754 Firstly, that's nothing to brag about. It also signifies that Jesus probably found his disciples and devotees incompetent to do any spiritual practice so He had no option to undergo the pain of crucifixion by taking their sins and cause their spiritual advancement. So really, it just shows your spiritual incapabilities whenever you brag about Jesus taking sins upon himself. Moreover, if we go your way and acknowledge what Jesus did as something great and special, then do know that Jesus isn't the only one to do that "sin-taking" thing. What Jesus did, every other Hindu sage did (that too without making a big fuss out of it). It's just a yogic method (which Jesus learned after visiting Indian subcontinent during his lost years) which is employed by the sages and seers, by taking upon the paap (negative) karmas of their devotees and disciples, out of compassion, so as to bless them and help them pave way to their liberation. Sri Ramana Himself did so. The miracles Jesus performed are not even a big deal in front of the Hindu sages, because guess what, they all have performed numerous much higher mind-blowing miracles (these are called yogic siddhis). Those around Jesus may have gotten shocked by his display of those miracles as there was hardly another genuine sage over there, but really, it's just a common thing here in Hinduism which has produced 1000s of enlightened sages and rishis. Moreover, that sin-taking which Jesus did, applies to only those who were present there at that time. Doesn't apply to any of us. Otherwise Bible wouldn't say "we're born sinners" if Jesus really took everybody's sins who weren't even born then. We're all responsible for our own karmas and have to pave way to our liberation from samsara. Besides Spirituality and Spiritual means and practices existed thousands of years before Jesus even came. Jesus, with all due respect to him, isn't the only way and the world, as you may believe isn't just 6000 years old. 😇
@@savedchristian4754 We respect your personal beliefs but those remain just beliefs. You are entitled to it. There are many different beliefs of many others in many religions. This is not a space to impose or counter or debate. Posts here relate to spiritual seeking & enqiries, which Truths are to be realized within. True spiritual teachers like Ramana, the Buddha, Christ, only guide & point the way and not to indoctrinate, command, dictate, impose beliefs & proselytise, which organized religions do (not the original teachers of each). Peace is found within.🙏
@savedchristian4754 you do not yet know peace...
There is a key difference in stating “ God is One” and “ There is only One God”.
The former brings everyone together and is ego effacing and the latter is divisive and ego feeding. When Bhagavan says God and Self are one and the same, he clearly unites us all in a very non- denominational way. Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya🙏🏽
Very beautifully said. 🙏🏻
Om Namo Bhagvate Sri Ramanaya! ✨
Please make sure to watch the other videos on this channel as well. 😇
Sanatana dharma doesn't not say god has form...it says you worship any form of god...ekam sat vipra bahuda vadanti...truth is one..people call it different names..
Iidols are personification of gods..not god itself..all humans cannot concentrate on formless worship...god assumes different forms..we call them ishta devatas..
Let me ask muslims if their god has no form...then how did they name him allah..why shoulf they turn towards meca..why should they make haj tours..why should they pelt stones on the 3 pillars..why should they go to mosques...
Yes, infact both "form" and "formlessness" is essentially God. Shruti says that "Sarvam Khalvidam Brahman", i.e. All this (existence) is Brahman. Just like how same water appears in various forms of glacier, waves, ripples, bubbles, foam etc., God appears in various forms (as mentioned in the scriptures and even more) in order to bestow Anugraha on the devotees. Essentially even murtis and non-different from God, as everything appears out of Him only and that He's all pervading. Lord Narsimha appearing out of pillar to save Bhakta Prahalada is a great example which shows how God resides within everything. So Murtis are essentially God too (not mere hollow personifications), especially more so after the avesham or descending of the deva into the Murtis, after prana pratishtha. There are mutliple ways, means, practices and paths to realize God, to cater to all kinds of aspirants and sadhakas, based on their varying capabilities, inclinations and samskaras. 😇
Very unique and yet highly enlightening video. Maharshi has a beautiful way of guiding. Gratitude and love! 🙏🏻💫
All His Grace! Glad you liked the video. Thank you 🙏🏻😇
No matter what. Peaceful will spread peace in any form physical or verbal.😂😂
With Maharshi, the discussion that happened was quite philosophical and insightful. 😊
@@HinduismAsItIsright peaceful will spread peace one way or other.
I am absolute devotee of Sri Ramana Maharshi & treat him as one of the most profound exponents of Universal Reality. Let all true seekers come. Truth can't be changed by you or us. Please let him be the Universal Holder of timeless wisdom without our interpretations. Brig.Sewak S. Sidhu (Retd.)
Glad to hear that and happy to have you here, sir. Please feel free to watch other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
Couldn't comprehend much on the conversation
That's alright, it may appear bit difficult to follow for some. The point essentially was that we're essentially not the body (as we are the spirit), yet have identified ourselves with body currently. If we being formless, can confine and identify ourselves to/as a form (body), then God could definitely do so too and that there's no harm in worshipping the formless God in/as those divine forms. 🙏🏻😇
IF god as no form how come he has Hands according to Q--ran ?? It even talks about right hand and left hand ?? The word "hand" is mentioned over 100 times in Q-uran .A##la also sits at on a throne .How come a formless sit on something ?? Take for example the verses of Q--rn
”(Qur’an 39:67) “ --They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be within His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him.
(Qur’an 38:75) --“Allah said, “O Iblis, what prevented you from prostrating to that which I created with My hands? Were you arrogant then, or were you already among the haughty?”
Interesting their are over 100 verse !!!
Yeah. Many such verses which imply formfulness can be seen. A lot of ignorant people often tend to twist and tweak the interpretation of the scriptures in their interest and to see/establish whatever is in their heart. Post that, they also shut down the possibilities of other interpretations (like how mainstream Islamists suppress the Sufis and others).
Hinduism had many scripts (books) unlike other religion.
Vedas say God has no definite form (so idol worship is not necessary/
wrong)
Puranas recommend idol
worship
We can see people of both
faith in Hindus.
Other religions when deeply analyse practically
they have one or several form of God.
Absolutely awesome answer, perfect in every sense, 👌
Glad you feel so too. 🙏🏻 Please do check out other videos on this channel as well. 😇
We are the formless that dances as every form
Very beautifully said. Just like how formless water dances in the form of waves. 😇🙏🏻
I really got goosebumps. Just fantastic! No words. Jai Sri Ramana Sadhguru 🙏🏻🙌🏻
Great, much appreciated! Namo Ramanaye! 🙏🏻😇
Maharshi gave very very direct clue towards realisation., genuine questions by the muslim brothers too...
Excellent reply and explanation on idol worship by Shri Ramana. Made my day. That we don't attain mukti in our inactivity during sleep hours is an eyeopener. What a great enlightened soul.
Glad to hear you feel so too. Sri Ramana's words are always eye-opening. It's a blessing to read Him. Please also feel free to watch other videos on this channel. 🙏🏻😇
I didn't get the point. Why did he say - body must refuse to be buried?
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I think he refers to the wrong identification with the body.
IF you would be the body, body would refuse to be buried, but it doesnt. So the self leaves the body at death, thus the self cannot be the body.
@@martinr2040 but If someone is dead, how they can refuse for anything
@@martinr2040 that's what I am saying. People can forcefully bury you, once you are dead 😆
Islam is a very rigid philosophy, you are not allowed to question the teachings of Quran, if you do you will most certainly be lynched. Sufism is the spiritual side of Islam but Muslims barely lean towards it.
Sufism is indeed nice but yeah, like you said, very few Muslims are inclined towards it.
I m really great full to u Mitra thank you very much for this informative video and pratyaksha darshana of maharshi
I bow down to you 🙏🙏🙏
It's my absolute pleasure, mitra. Thanks for your kind words. All Maharshi's grace. Please feel free to check out other videos on this channel too. 🙏🏻😇
If god has no form...than wat n who are you praying 5times a day to...
Yeah, formless God will naturally be boundary-less and thus all-pervading by default. Which means God is within material existence too and so the followers of formless God should have no problems with Murti Puja. People often tweak the definition and characteristics of God and verses of the scriptures, based on their own limited understanding and to prove their opinion as right.
@@HinduismAsItIs murti puja is for lower level of spirituality..with an ideology to avenge others..is a clear misunderstanding of the philosophy of higher n lower spirituality....many or most can't n won't grasp that ..as most in formless islamic ideology..
In bihari term
I think its called lepapoti
Religion is ego and politics
And ego seeks recognition .
You should never let such people inside ..
Misunderstanding and misuse of religion breeds ego and politics. 🙏🏻
This is real hinduism, when thought inits original form every religious person appreciate and adore. Unfortunately in india People who don't understand the real hindu science divide people. This video really unites every one to deep consciousness. Love
If God is the most powerful, God can transform into many forms amd manifest! Its a simple commonsense!
It should not be a question as “If” god is powerful
Yes, God can transform into many forms.
That every human beings and other living organisms surviving in this world are form of gods (energy) in one way or the other but we are bound by karma.
Such a lucid explanation for complex questions
AUM NAMAH SHIVAYA🕉🙏🔥🙏🌞☀🌟⭐✨✨✨
Great content ! …….I appreciate u for this work ….keep on making such videos …….we need to get clarity about Hinduism 🕉️
Many thanks for your kind remarks. It's my pleasure. Please feel free to watch other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
Blissful 😊 Om Namo Ramana 🌹🪔🙏🙏🕉️
Glad you felt so. Namo Ramanaya! 🙏🏻😇✨
First BE A HUMAN BEING...😀😀😀👍
Respect ALL RELIGION...🙏❤️❤️❤️🙏Hare Krishna 🙏❤️❤️❤️🙏
Thanks
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God is Formless and with Innumerable forms...
But undeserving are unable to see Him in form..,🔥
So true! Very beautifully articulated. He's both formless and with form. 🙏🏻😇✨
🙏Om Sri Bhagavan Ramanaya Namaha🙏
Om Namo Bhagvate Sri Ramanaya! 🙏🏻✨
Gratitude for sharing the divine words of Maharishi 🕉️🙏🏻
The pleasure is all mine! 🙏🏻😇
Jai Guru
Jai Guru! 🙏🏻
Very great and helpful teachings! Maharishi ji's eyes and vibes are so peaceful. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you! And yeah, Maharsi's eyes are a reflection of sheer Love and Godliness. 😇✨
Its not about Hinduism vs Islam its about truth and truth, you and me.... There is no separation we're one ❤
As long as you try to understand God with your mind it needs a form Even the name Allah is a form
Beautifully said. As long as one is identified with one's body or attached to forms, till then one needs a form of God to rise beyond. 🙏🏻😇
Still they are fanatic
Not all, but I get you. To each their own. Karma always comes back anyways. 😇
Such an amazing choice of topic , with beautiful soothing narration . All the videos here are nuggets of wisdom! Keep it up 🙏🙏
Many thanks for your warm and kind remarks. Your support keeps us going 😇🙏🏻
Thanks Guru Jee!
All Sri Ramana Guru's Grace! 🙏🏻😇
God has form. When the sastra says god has no form, the actual meaning is god has no material form but He has spiritual form. When it is said god has no eyes, ears, nose, hands or legs - the meaning is He has no material eyes, ears, nose, hands or legs but he has spiritual eyes, ears, nose, hands or legs. The spiritual form cannot be seen with material eyes but if we become fully spiritual by the spiritual process of bhakti then with the spiritual eyes the spiritual form can be seen. Spirit cannot be experienced by material method.
Yes, both form and formlessness belong to God. He has no limits or constraints of any kind. 🙏🏻✨
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏Sree Gurubhyo Namaha Arunachala Shiva Arunachala Shiva Arunachala Shiva Arunachala
Arunachala Shiva! 🙏🏻😇✨
I don't understand a lot of the terms used. But really loved your presentation.
Thank you! Yes, many of the terms are traditional sanskrit terms which a lot wouldn't be aware of. Feel free to ask those terms over here in the comments, if you need clarity. Or they could be googled as well. 🙏🏻😇
Only ignorants ask this question. Didn't lord Krishna explain beautifully in 12.05 why worshipping his personal form is ok? He was addressing common people who can't comprehend the unmanifested and formless Brahman. Those who choose that path prove that they don't belive in what Lord Krishna mentioned in Geeta. This is the reason hinduism is degraded and values are lost.
When we say God has no form, we try to say God is weak to attain any form. God is formless, means it can have any form or no form. Water has no form, yet it can take a form. God takes forms of his devotee's love!
Indeed, there are no restrictions or limitations of any kind on God. Nirguna God can appear into Saguna Forms out of His maya (for his devotees), just like how water can freeze into ice out of coolness.
Excellent view of life and body
Glad you liked it. 😇
How peaceful and logical❤
Glad to hear you felt so! Please feel free to watch other videos on this channel as well. 🙏🏻😇
Muslims ask these questions all the time trying to convert people!
If you watch some dawah channels you would learn about this. They are not seekers, they just believe one thing that Allah is the only god and prop Muhammad is the last messenger.
Yeah well, I mean it's still fine as long as they carry on with their lives and not cross their line or have the audacity to tell others that they're wrong or doomed to eternal hell. Sheer arrogance and utter ignorance to believe that there's just 1 prophet, 1 book, 1 method to Heavens (which came up only 2000, or 1400 years ago) in this history of this vast and diverse universe.
@@HinduismAsItIs I am 100% with you. That is exactly my point.
They have been doing "shove Islam in the face of kaafirs" recently and very viciously too. I follow IRPC, Mohammad Hijab, Ali Dawah, Smile to Jannah channels like these. These folks don't have anything but to dismiss my methods of prayer and diss my enlightened masters saying that they will all burn in hell fire for an eternity.
These fools have the audacity to dismiss anybody, the likes of Swamy Vivekanand, Ramana Maharshi etc.., because their methods are not in the HOLY BOOK, which was narrated by an illiterate pedophile prophet who ofcourse is the ideal person for humanity and that too till the end of time.
Your every sharing is a beautiful drop of my lord's grace!
Forever grateful to you sir ✨🙇🏻♀️🙏
Glad to hear you feel that way. It's all Lord's Grace indeed. 🙏🏻😇✨
Then who saw Allah in harsh.
Then How Allah talk.
Then How Allah created..
In you tube...body parts of Allah
Some worship standing statue, others worship graveyards
Thank ayya for sharing this great truths by great saint baghawan Ramana maharshi 😢 gratitude 🙏
The pleasure is all mine, brother. 😇 All Sri Ramana's Grace! 🙏🏻✨
when any one understand other religeon it is with mind set of their religeon. when Hindus worship forms, it has deeper understanding The Lord is in Form Saguna aswellas No Form Niguna. we pray to form to be disciplened to go to Nirvana, a pathway ,so u find lot of freedom in Hinduism to choose any form of lord .This freedom is very essential in life.
Indeed. Hinduism has diverse paths, practices, philosophies to cater to all kinds of people with different tendencies, inclination and background. It's not unidimensional, linear or restrictive in nature.
Bhakthi in Three stages ; Circumstantial where we go to temple , pray statues , Printed formats and offer Prasad etc to create self Interest ; Next Stage is Intentional where we love god without prompting ; Third stage is Trancedental and total detachment; Those who seek , answers are available in Scriptures ; Ultimately there is only one God
Many followers of other religions especially Christians are talking ill of Krishna Leela with Gopis whereas we always try to remember " Gopikaa Jeevana Smaranam" . Can you please explain through actual writings in Bhagavatham what exactly means by this particular portion of Krishna Leela and find out any particular verse that objectifies Paramathma and piety of this leela.
Hindus worshipping Eswara (jevathma or soul and Devathas (all living creatures) hence hindus have numourous devathas not Gods as in Muslims and Christians doing Puja and archana. No religion proved who is God, how is he man or woman , he has any shape anybody seen even the prophets what tbe common man knows the prophets also knows the same only belief no reality.
Shareera is a tool or sadhana fir anubhava or experience. If you didn't have a body you wouldn't need mukti isn't it? As no sukha and dukha can be experienced with out the body and the experience. It seems very convoluted that bramhan will enter this material world just to get entangled into samsara and then struggle to get out. What is the point then? Irshighly doubtful if Acharya Shankara hadn't thought of these things for his level of uber intelligence. It's the later on advatins who thought they understood Acharya Shankara and contaminated advita with their own potty understandings. 😢
Ekam Sat Vipra Bahudha Vadanti
Is 1:48 really possible for a muslim mind to comprehend, I'm calling this false. Could be fake to get views for sure
All this talking with muslims is completely useless because their concept of God very contrived one. So when they refer to God , that is completely different from what maharishi is referring. All these excercise are a waste with muslims
Take all the Pre Islamic icons out ie the kaabah , the Al ajar Al aswaad black stone ( aka shiva lingam) they have nothing ! There is no spiritual aspect to islam it draws on a Pre Islamic mystic tradition. Vedic in origin.
Actually one should have asked maharshi why is it necessary to worship God..??.
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They worship an angry jealous person. Anger and Jealousy cannot be divine.
Great people have an aura
where people forget irrelevant questions
Its really amazing that muslims met Maharishi ji and even after they did not convert to sanatan way of life .
They remained jahils
Is it the India in pixels guy?? Sounds so much like him