Homeworld 2 Dust Wars concept stroyline

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
  • Hey!
    Some time ago I found this concept storyline on the Internet. Some say it was concept for "original" Homeworld 2 and later it was changed. I do not judge this concept, just wanted to share it with you people :). Have fun.
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  • @canofjuiceify
    @canofjuiceify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    So uh, this is kinda awkward. I wrote this plot back in 2005 for a mod called Dustwars. For anyone confused, it was meant as a prequel to an unused script for HW2 called HW Empires. I'm glad people like it though. This was a draft, I think I posted it on relicnews? Crazy.

    • @olivierrodriguesneto5995
      @olivierrodriguesneto5995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thatvis actually awesome, I absolutely loved this story! Did both mods launched?

    • @EnterpriseKnight
      @EnterpriseKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How does it feel that your story is so good that it gets mistaken for official cancelled material?

    • @Ahmadabdal_
      @Ahmadabdal_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100 times better than "look it's the chosen one!" bullshit

  • @zeonmx
    @zeonmx 9 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I like this story version much better than the Vagyr invasion plot. They kinda rushed with the whole Vagyr thing. They are only known as nomadic civilization and will absorb others into their ranks. It's like the whole Vagyr idea was an after-thought. Anyway, I like the idea of exploring the unknown Eastern Spiral.

    • @CheffBryan
      @CheffBryan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The part that irritated me especially was how they are supposedly nomads, but have no Mothership, no interesting stations whose sole intent is to house the members of their species. Throw in a shipyard rivaling Tannis, and you have a much more interesting threat to deal with.

    • @ServantOfOdin
      @ServantOfOdin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Vaygr-Hiigaran issue of HW2 was basically the reverse of the Taiidan-Kushan of HW1...

  • @gracecalis5421
    @gracecalis5421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Homeworld is lowkey just as hardcore as WH40k. Seriously, everything in this game is just...big.

    • @Rattlepiece
      @Rattlepiece 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And brutal. Very brutal.

    • @roguedrones
      @roguedrones 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rattlepiece go big or go home

    • @KiithNaabal
      @KiithNaabal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@roguedrones Go big while going home...to your homeworld!

    • @dartiel6892
      @dartiel6892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KiithNaabal Our home is our world, our life

  • @KiithNaabal
    @KiithNaabal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Well that thing actually has artwork very similar to the HW3 trailer...the gate network in particular! :-D

  • @YellowKeaton
    @YellowKeaton 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's also stated in game that the weapon used to annihilate their world in the first homeworld was... Illegal. That's part of the reason there was a civil war going on in the Taidan empire in the first game.

  • @p2ambassador317
    @p2ambassador317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video based on Homeworld2: Dustwars Total Conversion Mod story (written in mid-2007), which precedes original HW: Empire storyline, that has been sadly canceled in 2001.
    dustwars-story.blogspot.com/
    And yes, it's many times more interesting than the prophecies and chosen one stuff from restarted HW2.
    I really hope that in the HW3 they will finally tell us the story of the brave 15-th squadron :)

  • @Tynorg
    @Tynorg 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Which is more or less what I was saying. The Bentusi still exist, but some of their Tradeships had fled the Homeworld Galaxy in Cataclysm.

  • @calebstrong1945
    @calebstrong1945 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    They should use this for HW3

    • @YDECOY8
      @YDECOY8 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MC Strong Hopefully. But first we must pray that some one will revive the homeworld franchise

    • @dukoth6552
      @dukoth6552 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Glorious GeneralDerpSide um, gearbox is doing that, homeworld shipbreakers

    • @YDECOY8
      @YDECOY8 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dukoth Oh right, i completely forgot about that. Haven't heard from it at all in like a year or so.

    • @dukoth6552
      @dukoth6552 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Glorious GeneralDerpSide I think gearbox didn't want to overshadow HW:R
      watch one of the dev videos for HW:R, I think it's the one that's like 37 min of gameplay and commentary, they talk a little bit about Shipbreakers

    • @spacecowboy426
      @spacecowboy426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You may, in fact, be right.

  • @rodtheworm
    @rodtheworm 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's definitely an alternate timeline for HW2 rather than a sequel - they use the Balcora gate and Eye of Arran to open up a hyperspace network, the Bentusi are still around and the 'Great Port of Nalthor' is very similar in name and shape to the 'Great Port of Bentus'. .
    I'm glad they changed it if this was the plan - the essence of the games was trying to stay one step ahead of a more powerful opponent, fighting a guerilla war until you had the firepower to take them head on.

  • @MsSomeonenew
    @MsSomeonenew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pretty darn cool, although a bit too familiar of a story for my usual liking.
    I loved Homeworld stories because they didn't take our own history and just renamed things.

    • @pukovnik7640
      @pukovnik7640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually, they kinda did. The original Homeworld story is essentially the Biblical story of Israelis returning to Canaan, with just names some details changed. And Homeworld 2 is basically Israeli-Arab wars, but in space...

  • @Koshy2
    @Koshy2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish they would have went with this idea for 2 instead of that weird hyperspace core Vagyr invasion stuff. Nowhere in HW is it said that the hyperspace core was some kind of amazing unique relic. It's even hinted at in the story that it was totally dismantled in order to reverse engineer it.

  • @StefanBlagojevic
    @StefanBlagojevic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good to hear this story. Homeworld Lore deserves this. Thank you Michalsky0_0. Subbed, kind regards.

  • @LauftFafa
    @LauftFafa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this fel similar to what they said will be in hw3 .
    you will have the galaxy map , you will use the gates and fight for hiigara

    • @viktormatilcak25
      @viktormatilcak25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish that in Hw 3 will be some robotic race, something like borg from star trek or replicators from stargate. I think it would be nice

  • @alankulwicki0_0
    @alankulwicki0_0  11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In official soundtrack its called "Credits".
    Featured in Homeworld 2.

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like Hecatomb, Alien: Engineers, and Command and Conquer: Tiberian Incursion, we sure got robbed.
    May HW3 cleanse the sins of HW2 when it comes out, hopefully well.

    • @Jebsucks
      @Jebsucks 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Coming back to this after Homeworld 3 actually came out is absolutely tragic.
      We didn't even *begin* to know how bad it could become, did we?

  • @toothpik00
    @toothpik00 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was aweome. Really well done. It sounds like an epic storyline. Perhaps we'll get a movie based on this? Heh, yeah I wish :P

  • @Tynorg
    @Tynorg 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, but the Bentusi ARE still around. Remember Cata? There was that mission in which you had to stop them from leaving through the Hyperspace Gate.

  • @SloppyMcFloppy1029
    @SloppyMcFloppy1029 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This would be perfect for HW 3 because the hiigarans have become very strong after hw 2 and with sajuuk ( and maybe the progenitor) on their side this could make them have the ability to create very strong and exotic ships and strikecraft and stuff
    It's like the next stage in the growth of the hiigaran empire

  • @rodtheworm
    @rodtheworm 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In HW2, the Great Port of Bentus is referred to as the last of the Bentusi, implying the rest have either been destroyed or left.

    • @bengrogan9710
      @bengrogan9710 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a reference to Homeworld Cataclysm, They Fled the Galaxy from threat of a sentient disease called "The Beast"
      Kiith Somtaaw Blockade the last Bentusi ships from entering a basic hyperspace gate, the Bentusi see "Their madness reflected on our own" and stand down

  • @TonyGognitti
    @TonyGognitti 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work, Adam. Subbed.

  • @ilikeeverything10000
    @ilikeeverything10000 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i hope Gearbox and Blackbird can read this so when they make Homeworld 3 we can see the Tobari and the Nalthorians

    • @vikx512
      @vikx512 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope so too

    • @Rtype426
      @Rtype426 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try submitting this to them and post back here to let us know what gearbox or blackbird will say about it. this could be a homeworld 3 that can begin at the china game a.k.a eye of aaran. hyper spacing dead smack on the middle of 2 warring factions.

  • @Koshy2
    @Koshy2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeez the negative comments about story. I don't know about the rest of the people that see this but I prefer that things happening on screen actually be happening for some story consistent reason instead of just being a lava lamp that cost 60$.

  • @phoenixlandsberg9649
    @phoenixlandsberg9649 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will silently wait here for all the people left with a broken soul after the HW3 disastrous campaign and it's writing to discover this one and ponder on what HW3 could have been without brainless writers and producers ruining it for the sake of the "message", DEI and other ruinous ideas that always do only contribute to the death of entire franchises.
    They had a Gem in their pockets, and now it is nothing but burned dust, scorched into nothingness just like the Kharak was.
    Rest in Peace, Homeworld. I will remember the good old days till I myself will turn into dust.

  • @jadeimingan184
    @jadeimingan184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be a prequel to Homeworld 2

    • @makergreen
      @makergreen ปีที่แล้ว

      After released HW 3 and HWM

    • @jadeimingan184
      @jadeimingan184 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@makergreen that can work, hope they do it.

  • @rodtheworm
    @rodtheworm 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we might be talking at crossed purposes. I think we agree that the only Bentusi that still exist are the ones who escaped in Cataclysm, who are said to be jumping to a different galaxy.
    What I mean is that, even with Homeworld 2's opening of the hyperspace gate network (only appears to span the galaxy, in the cutscene) there is still no way for anyone to follow them and no reason for them to return (if they could) because they think the Beast is still about. Just my take on it. ;)

  • @themechanic3352
    @themechanic3352 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To anyone looking for the scripts, here is the link to them:
    assam.studio-gepard.pl/showfile.php?id=48

  • @xianderthest8014
    @xianderthest8014 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This in its own right could and should be a game of its own following the events of the Vagyr invasion after the Eye was discovered.

  • @dominikb1284
    @dominikb1284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s hope Homeworld 3 will turn out to be good

  • @krnt13
    @krnt13 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still is a good story, with a little tweak it could be implemented as the Homeworld 3 Story, I know this is only an introduction, I also have read this much more compact and with less details.
    The only thing I remember was that the alien force that opened fire against the Pax expeditionary fleet called themselves The Vay, or also the called Vaygr .

  • @hammer326
    @hammer326 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That captain flew with a clean-up vanguard of the fleet of the empire that incinerated an entire world under a clause millenia old that couldn't possibly have gone remembered, and the Kadeshi would not even let the Kushan fleet leave willingly, at that point it's a matter of carving your way out with pulsar and ion cannon. I do acknowledge how splintered they were, however. and conflict will erupt from THAT.

  • @TomerSchatz
    @TomerSchatz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This for HW 3 or Homeworld Universe or some other name .
    imagine 3rd person free roam exploration homeworld game omg jizztastic

  • @AndresPluss
    @AndresPluss 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why this video does not have more views?

  • @FilipRanogajec
    @FilipRanogajec 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That may happen in HW3, what hasn't happened yet.

  • @rodtheworm
    @rodtheworm 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I quite like those big ships at 1:18 though - they look a little Kadeshi.

  • @thorsbitch
    @thorsbitch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Says a servant of chaos!

  • @mitguard
    @mitguard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get this concept? Any links or files?

  • @theincredible5379
    @theincredible5379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, my favorite game's story concept before they went with the rushed Vagyr story

  • @tabgbug9139
    @tabgbug9139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sounds remarkable. Maybe it will be used for Homeworld 3?

    • @alankulwicki0_0
      @alankulwicki0_0  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who knows, I wonder if this concept is still "theirs" but afterall this story is blown because we know it already ;) number "15" is still visible on recent concept arts so maybe 15th Fleet will be included in HW3 :) only time will tell

    • @EhRandomGuy
      @EhRandomGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alankulwicki0_0 Would you happen to have the original source of the video? It states more details and some info in the description!

    • @alankulwicki0_0
      @alankulwicki0_0  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@EhRandomGuy If I remember correctly this story was once published on Homeworld Shipyards but now this site is offline :( I don't have any buckup of this, sorry.

  • @holhorse3808
    @holhorse3808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know the name of the 1st track? Can't find it in the HW2 OST

  • @Tynorg
    @Tynorg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    While they were an empire warring against the Taiidani.

  • @9Firedrake9
    @9Firedrake9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Homeworld 3 anyone??

  • @ContinuumGamer1
    @ContinuumGamer1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @-=Soban=- You do know that this is a concept storyline for Homeworld 2, before the plot got changed to the rushed Vaygr piece of shit of a plot, right?

  • @LadyTakanashi
    @LadyTakanashi 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    in homeworld 2 hiigara obtained all three and no the taiidan never had a core the bentusii had the first core hiigara the second, vaygr got the third, the taiidan bought there blueprints from the bentusi

  • @TonyGognitti
    @TonyGognitti 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, well, looks like Pax turned into another form of "Taiidani Empire". Doesn't seem they ruled a lot better than Taiidani. Well, maybe they were more liberal indeed, but that's all. Same conquering campaigns, protectorates and ambitions. Same Empire, different colors...

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, I can see why it was scrapped then:\

  • @lowerlowerhk
    @lowerlowerhk 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, are you a developer of homeworld series?

  • @thelatenightguard7763
    @thelatenightguard7763 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Homeworld 3

  • @themechanic3352
    @themechanic3352 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the link doesn't work anymore.

  • @sdrkrm
    @sdrkrm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It's a good story for a novel, or a movie but not for the game. No clearly distinctive factions with unique features, tech and lore. No really ominous power that threats the galaxy and with it no real need for further progress like research and engineering. A game like this would be boring to death even to the hardcore HW fans. Even though the Vagyr concept was a bit clumsily introduced, still it's much more fun than fighting for power between Hiigarans.

  • @DobbsyLondon
    @DobbsyLondon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just a story for the dust wars mod surely? Uses loads of concept art from both games.

  • @yunzhonghou
    @yunzhonghou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In terms of storytelling I see several problems here. There's too many unrelated events and no unifying storyline, a lack of conflict, an un-fired Chekhov's gun (the first enemies fleeing to Karos and *not* ressurecting some ancient Progenitor relic to take on Hiigara), the Protagonist's faction not being the underdog, too much politicking (not good for games), and even a 20-year time skip in the middle of the story (tells you the story is missing tempo). There's too much backstory compared to the gameplay plot (mentioned at the end) and it's barely even tangentially related. It's lacking the mystique of adventure and the uncovering of ancient artifacts among derelicts that features prominently among HW2 (and is one of its strongest points). For a truly tightly crafted story that would make an epic HW3 game I recommend the complete fanfic Wrath of the Gods (www.fanfiction.net/s/2336255/1/Homeworld2-Wrath-of-the-Gods) (not my story, though I have read it a few times). It has everything you'd want in a Homeworld game, plenty of callbacks to existing characters and factions, and amazing story beats.

  • @HajtomY
    @HajtomY 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i actually like the story, i hope someone can show me more info on this! HAHAHAH!!!
    Its more political. XD HEHEHEHE!!!! But no Vaygr army hahahaha

  • @Terranallias18
    @Terranallias18 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo what are these songs? They slap

    • @alankulwicki0_0
      @alankulwicki0_0  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are, all included in original soundtrack by Paul Ruskay

  • @davesteveha521
    @davesteveha521 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is no east or any directions on space

  • @BucksheeRounds
    @BucksheeRounds 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was this the official storyline? If so, I'm sad to say I think I actually prefer HW2's release version. Yes it was heavily flawed, cliche and shallow compared to HW1's epic tale of exile and redemption, but it at least had action. This just reads and feels utterly boring. As far as I can tell virtually nothing happens until towards the end (or beginning, which ever way you see it).

    • @bengrogan9710
      @bengrogan9710 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      all of this was the backstory before the game was to begin, you play against the "new" enemy that you are pacifying

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 ปีที่แล้ว

      To each our own. HW2 is apocrypha to me, what with it ignoring the basics of HW1 and Cataclysm/Emergence. Even Deserts of Kharak helps on deliberately avoiding the game's importance (although a certain scene involving hyperspace bugs me).

  • @fiskefyren
    @fiskefyren 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    there isn't such a thing as good or evil, its as simple as that :)

  • @Ironication
    @Ironication 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    torturing the captain was the responsibility of a single person, you cannot condemn a whole nation just because of the act of a single man;
    in the gardens of Kadesh, they HAD to deal with that other civilization or else they would've been assimilated or destroyed;
    so no, they are not saints, but neither are they sinners in the regards you make them out to be
    besides, what makes you think they are religious fanatics?

  • @BucksheeRounds
    @BucksheeRounds 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Political intrigue and betrayals will interfere as you attempt to protect your species."
    ^
    Simply isn't homeworld. Politics are mentioned fleetingly in backstories and such but they should not have anything to do with gameplay, it trivialises the whole thing.
    I'm sorry if I sound overly negative, but I don't get why everyone always drools over the dustwars, because if this is it, I'm not impressed.

  • @Its_Sun1
    @Its_Sun1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    You all have the story wrong... If yo read homeworld lore, you will learn, that in the begging higgara was its own empire, they had a fight with the bentusi and Taiidan causeing them to get banished to kharak, and then the homeworld 2 games. This story is to proove that they are once again starting another fight. I have proof i am right so you cannot aurgue, htftp://fhomefworld.wikiaf.com/wiki/fMain_Page Talks about everything ever made in homeworld. Im done. (Remove all the F's)

  • @zeonmx
    @zeonmx 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this story version much better than the Vagyr invasion plot. They kinda rushed with the whole Vagyr thing. They are only known as nomadic civilization and will absorb others into their ranks. It's like the whole Vagyr idea was an after-thought.
    Anyway, I like the idea of exploring the unknown Eastern Spiral.