Why Black Desert Online Just Refuses To Die

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  • Black Desert Online has been on the come up in 2023, but was it ever really down to begin with? Let's discuss the good, bad, and why I think BDO is the dark horse of the mmorpg genre.
    #blackdesert #blackdesertonline #mmorpg #bdo

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  • @GraveTheory
    @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've seen a few comments mentioning that BDO does have dungeons and fast travel. The game does have Magnus and Atoraxxion, however when mentioning the lack of dungeons and fast travel I was specifically talking about BDO at it's release and early years of development. Atoraxxion and Magnus were both added in 2021 and 2022 respectively, 7 to 8 years after the games release. Apologies for the confusion.

    • @saito853
      @saito853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To add onto this, fast travel existed in the game since Valencia release, through Traveller's map. However the item only allow you to warp to the closest Towns within your current region, with 6 hours of cooldown.
      I can't remember when but around 2017-18, they also added a Taxi service where you can take a Balloon to fly from region to region, which takes like 10 minutes real time.

    • @WhiskeyPatriot
      @WhiskeyPatriot ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a great chance to jump in then

    • @qpJoRdAnqp
      @qpJoRdAnqp ปีที่แล้ว

      You should of did a review of the current game and current content then.

    • @hatemeister
      @hatemeister ปีที่แล้ว

      The dungeons are also VERY different from the kinds of dungeons you find in other MMOs. Magnus is cool and all, but I found my self naturally rarely using it, I use it just if I really need to be in a place instantly and otherwise I prefer letting autopathing do its job and do other stuff while the character rides to where I want; it's not that I'm some kind of a MMO boomer that doesn't accept change but I just got used to no fast travel and it just feels clunky anyway lol

  • @asdesdvfq222c
    @asdesdvfq222c ปีที่แล้ว +103

    one of the better videos on BDO in 2023! So much of the "outside-of-BDO" MMO-crowd is unable to realize that BDO occupies a niche, and has its own audience of gamers who crave what BDO offers. The very same elements outsiders find repulsive, the fans either don't care about or actually enjoy. I've played many MMOs since 2001. I am frustrated with people who refuse to acknowledge that BDO might have something worthwhile, people who act like BDO players only like it if we are ignorant of what a "real MMO" is. I've long given up trying to persuade friends to try it out, it will only ever be "that weird grinding casino game I play" to them. Oh well.

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I gave up trying to persuade friends to play it as well long ago. Most are WoW or FF14 players who haven't tried many other mmos. Out of the ones that tried it, most didn't even last 2 days and never made it to heidel. It's a complicated and different game than they are used to, so I don't begrudge them. In fact I expect them to not stay. It's not the only game like that either, the same thing happens to me with other games I've loved like EVE Online and Warframe.

    • @HoodedHamster
      @HoodedHamster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi veltas

    • @CreepyBlackDude
      @CreepyBlackDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started with Eve, moved to FF 14, and now I'm on BDO. I love all three of those, and I can't really say which one I like the most. But they each have their own merits, and I've been addicted to all of them at one point. It's just a matter of perspective, and what I see is that when people say that you don't know real MMOs, it really means that they're afraid to try any other than the one that they like.

    • @asdesdvfq222c
      @asdesdvfq222c ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HoodedHamster it’s nice to run into you here!

    • @balancebreaker1561
      @balancebreaker1561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You gotta realize that big part of the mmo community are twitch wave riders, they would just move to wherever the hype is or their streamers go, now that bdo gained some popularity again with lotm Asmongold checked it out again, he knows shit about the game, played it and said again its p2w, moved on and the same did all his spergs

  • @leon3295
    @leon3295 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    The dedication the devs put to improve this game and continue to improve this game is mindblowing. It just keeps getting better and better.

    • @housemana
      @housemana ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yea, improving on grinding in circles is really just improving all the time! now you can grind in loops!

    • @bravewhitewolf2246
      @bravewhitewolf2246 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@housemana What MMO is not grinding simulator in endgame exactly?

    • @emeukal7683
      @emeukal7683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just restated fresh after losing account to conversion after quitting. The game experience for new players is awesome now, great game. Fuck kakao

    • @housemana
      @housemana ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bravewhitewolf2246 lmao cope

    • @thugnyc
      @thugnyc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the best joke i've heard all day man, thanks for making my day better.

  • @luciforia5564
    @luciforia5564 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the part about suplexing someone into a river after knocking them off their horse. As a zerker i am innocent and would never do that without being provoked, that horse rider kept staring at me and staring is quite rude.

    • @Shiggy_
      @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว

      The anxiety and helplessness of being picked up and slowly walked to the edge 😭😭😭

  • @take2508
    @take2508 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a awa zerker main, I suplex people into river, but not because I hate you guys.
    I just wanna give people a free hug

  • @Shiggy_
    @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The active development on black desert is crazy. You can be gone for 6 months and come back to entirely new in-depth systems. I was gone from late 2021 to now. And I’m just surprised they add voice acting and cutscenes to the entire main story. Let alone all the new catch up systems, area of the map and classes.

  • @potyi1823
    @potyi1823 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I wasnt expecting such a quality and well thought video from small channel like this. I truly agree its a very niche game thats hit or miss, and there is no alternative to this game so when people burn out they just come back because they cant find an other mmo with superior combat.

  • @loxian42
    @loxian42 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great analysis. I also agree that one of the reasons BDO stood the test of time is the fact it's so unique among the genre.

    • @Bvic3
      @Bvic3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep. No other MMO with messy open world pvp. I don't want gear equalized arenas, I don't want scripted battlegrounds.
      BDO has both insanely satisfying pvp mixed with pve and the conquest node war system where you place a fort anywhere and fight 50v50, making obscure areas nobody goes to become famously horrendous base locations in the middle of a mountain cliff that is outrageously unbalanced to attack.
      I love unbalanced games. The funniest part of Warframe is the broken combination of cards with exponential multiplicative stacking that lead to boring but OP methods.
      Nothing is more boring for me than symmetrical maps with balanced gear and MMR matchmaking.

    • @juniisenpai3777
      @juniisenpai3777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bvic3 What a sad dude. lmao

    • @CAWC971
      @CAWC971 ปีที่แล้ว

      EvE is even more but it's gameplay doesn't fit everyone

  • @lincolnjohnson4428
    @lincolnjohnson4428 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Reason for me is, BDO has so much more depth than any other MMO by a mile. You can PvE and grind and read guides on how to grind with mechanics.. then decide to lifeskill and realize that is so in-depth that it requires all your time. Then you decide to Barter and realize that is its own game, etc.
    This game has sooo much to offer.

  • @phalanx6559
    @phalanx6559 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm korean and don't speak English fluently but I find your pronunciation so clear and easy to understand

  • @rhenwalker9811
    @rhenwalker9811 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was suggested to me out of the blue but damn was well worth the watch. Quality content

  • @Akzari
    @Akzari ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you talk about zerker griefing two separate times in the video…I felt that

  • @Wakayashi
    @Wakayashi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:17 killed me. Good video!

  • @BadiehWoTBlitzMore
    @BadiehWoTBlitzMore ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing video, really well put together. It's insane how high the quality is compared to your subscriber count. Well done man

    • @Cosecti
      @Cosecti ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I saw this video yesterday he had 12 suscribers and little amount views. So glad that it got the reach it deserved cause it was a really good analysis imo.

    • @BadiehWoTBlitzMore
      @BadiehWoTBlitzMore ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cosecti agreed

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cosecti I woke up today and peed my pants a little when I saw my notifications.

    • @Cosecti
      @Cosecti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GraveTheory I imagine you kinda like the "OMG IT'S HAPENNING" meme 😂 Congrats!

  • @coreyunder90
    @coreyunder90 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For me personally the combat system (and combat visuals) plus the still amazing graphics plus the unmatched character design and customization options were the main reasons why I started this game. The massive open world and a gearing system that is actually rewarding and doesn't make your gear useless every other patch is what kept me playing the game.

  • @doubled99218
    @doubled99218 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great analytical video. Damn you really put a nice different perspective on it.

  • @TheMarkey87
    @TheMarkey87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game is absolutly underrated. It deserves so much more sucess imo. I love bdo. I grind, I chill there, I enjoy the enviroment, though my Pc cant handle remastered. I never got burned out by this game, wich for a grindf heavy mmo is actually impressive.

  • @Eulemitkeule
    @Eulemitkeule ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Im a BDO Player since 5 Years now. Played 10 years WOW, star wars the old republic, ESO and many more. And i couldnt agree more with you, i never since WOW, felt home in a game again but to this point. I think your Review is the Best ive seen in a long time, calling also the negatives which BDO surely has. But aß youve said yourself, no other Game has this much, indepth content that BDO has. One last Thing, a Game can only be as good as the Company behind it, i think PA did an amazing Job in the last 2 Years to make the Best Experience in this Game since ever. Very good work again mate ( also liked that you put my german Fellow Wakayashi into your Video, enhancing 😂 )

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      His tap in that clip was no contest the best enhance I've ever seen. The full reaction is amazing 👍

  • @landylachs
    @landylachs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol love the title. I agree with your observations, and I'm so happy to see this game doing so well now. I've always loved the game design and aesthetics of bdo, and if it wasn't for irl obligations, I would play it much more frequently - because it is a wonderfully well-made experience for the kind of player who loves sandbox games. It's still an awesome game to play casually, and to come back to every now and then (the way I've been playing it). I'm genuinely impressed how every time I return, it's in a better state than the last time I played. The community has also grown through the years, and has so many friendly and helpful people in it. I hope bdo and the community around it continue to grow!
    Also wow, I agree with the other commentators about the production of your vid - the quality made me think you were an already established channel. Very strong start, I've no doubt you'll grow your channel rapidly at this rate (if that's something you're interested in doing!).

  • @NormanPrevident
    @NormanPrevident ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is one of the best analysis vids i have ever seen in the gaming genre. not just rambling but showing numbers. subscribed.

  • @ryvi6887
    @ryvi6887 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    As someone who's a BDO vet, got around 10k hours i agreed with a lot of points in this video. Easily one of the better takes.

  • @kevinsmithgaming
    @kevinsmithgaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That zerker slander was personal lol. Wasn't a lie though 😂😂

  • @awakeiam1028
    @awakeiam1028 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    BDO tends to be the game I always come back to for this reason I think. After playing lost ark for a while I began to miss having a big open world I could look around and feel immersed in. Ill try out WoW and f14 patches and expansions but inevitably get tired of their samey dungeon gameplay loops after a couple months and came back.

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lost Ark had great gameplay but I also agree I felt the game was much less immersive than other mmos, especially bdo. There's something to be said for just being able to pan your camera and look out into the distance, and bdo captures that feeling.

  • @CrickyBrown1
    @CrickyBrown1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not gonna lie, at the start I thought this was gonna be another biased anti-BDO bashing but actually really enjoyed your take on things. BDO is very much that addiction you can't get over, 90% of the people I know that play/played the game, almost all of them have came back to the game in some form, because the dev's listen to the players a decent amount when it comes to quality of life and honestly, it's refreshing. The devs targetting the game to newer players, making it easier to get in game gear and everything worth a lot more speaks volumes for allowing new players to catch up. PA has it's fair share of up's and down's but ultimately, they get it right when it counts. :D

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wouldn't be a true bdo player if I didn't bash the game at least a little bit 👍

  • @SommetiderHvorforDetRoligRolig
    @SommetiderHvorforDetRoligRolig ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BDO is by far the best mmorpg i have ever played. I have played wow, archlord, archeage, dragona online (where i was the guild leader of the strongest guild), 9 dragons, and others.. But BDO is so special.. It has endless content.. great graphics, nice combat system, huge lifeskilling system, great developers (the game is updated every week, and gm's very often chill around the bdo world, chatten with ppl and giving out gm's blessing buffs and such.).. The game is just great. I will never stop playing this game.

  • @retiefgregorovich810
    @retiefgregorovich810 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been a BDO player since launch and have never left it. It simply is the most fun game to play that I've ever played. Why? Beautiful characters, fun, energetic combat, filled with different things to do that I never get bored with the game. I might be bored with one aspect of it, like bartering, but then I just switch to something else within the game.

  • @RexxyRobin
    @RexxyRobin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you mentioned the life skilling when talkign about the unique aspects of BDO.
    I am obsessed with gathering and alchemy and I just love that bdo allows you to do just that and only that if you want to, while still offering you a varied experience.
    Most other mmo are all combat all the time, whether it is around story, gridning, raids or pvp and only spare minimal thought for non combat activities.

  • @emillilja312
    @emillilja312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice video :3 (been playing since eu launch more or less, there are tons of things to add but i think your video sums it up on a base level extremly good for the everyday none bdo player, kudos!)

  • @dandy0397
    @dandy0397 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They kept it up for a while, but now there is dungeons and teleporting. Still, it's definitely a game that's just it's own game. I think many people, especially the older ones who play BDO were people who enjoyed games like Star Wars Galaxies. BDO reminds me very much of that game, and I hope one day they'll remake SWG, the private servers are fine, but I miss that huge thriving community.

    • @Shiggy_
      @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ya but the teleporting was done well I think. Like you really gotta earn it with those annoying quests and the 9.5 million per teleport. Plus it’s not just a UI screen, which is what I thought it would be. I really only use it when I NEED to be on the otherside of the map to meet a friend.
      But with how big the map has gotten since launch, they needed to add a teleport system. Especially with loml

    • @dandy0397
      @dandy0397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Shiggy_ I agree it's done well! I was just saying that there is teleporting now for those who do like to have that convenience.

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They did! Fast travel was definitely going to be needed if they ever wanted lotml to be viable at all, but in true BDO fashion the Magnus system and the entire quest chain that came with it is just totally wild.

  • @Gleandra
    @Gleandra ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You say it. Today, anything is possible in BDO. Pearl Abyss could add just anything and there is barely any rules to be expected anymore. That is what makes it so exciting, along with the weekly test server updates bringing new systems, adjustments and class tweaks.

  • @Seriksy
    @Seriksy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unlike any other MMORPG. BDO can literally add anything they want in the game, which is quite something

    • @Shiggy_
      @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can imagine the office like:
      “Did you see the new doctor strange movie?”
      ….

  • @linkedsnake6021
    @linkedsnake6021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a veteran of the KR Severs and having played EU since release, this is the best take i have yet seen on BDO and explains perfectly well, why i too believe the game will be around for a long time, it just offers a package thats unique and very addicting for a niche of people like me

  • @crabmilk360
    @crabmilk360 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, the production on this video is insane. You put a lot of work into it and deserve more subs than you currently have. Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion.

  • @takarahayashi4124
    @takarahayashi4124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not to mention from what i understand, their original publisher contract came to an end not too long ago, so the devs took the monetization and reworked it to not be as scummy. they give a ton of free stuff now, and from what ive seen, you can now be completely free from buying from the cashshop and still compete.

  • @joneszim680
    @joneszim680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, at first I thought you got no clue about BDO... But I was pretty damn wrong! Very good and informational video which pretty much nails it!

  • @SkullJr
    @SkullJr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im returning player from 2019, and played this game again 5 days ago xd
    the fact that no other MMORPG can replace this game + this game future becoming clear, i would love to spend more time grinding those PEN

  • @patricktsang1149
    @patricktsang1149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Played from 2016-2020. Back after three years and definitely a refresh where I don’t have to grind myself to death for PENs now.

  • @OompaaLoomppaa
    @OompaaLoomppaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such an amazing video bro I watched the whole thing everything was precise and accurate this video deserves more views

  • @Mekose
    @Mekose ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What always brings me back to BDO is that other themepark MMOs are "solved". I've been playing FFXIV since ARR and the content cycle literally has not budged from the formula since release. Every expansion we get a level cap increase, a good story, and a new zone, every x.odd number patch we get 3 dungeons and a 24man raid, every x.even number patch we get 3 dungeons and an 8man raid; for over 7 years. . .
    BDO has always maintained relevancy regardless of time spent not played. I'm using the same end-game pieces of gear I got years ago and those are still BiS and because of the near infinite treadmill I always have an upgrade to strive for. That PEN necklace you got 3 years ago on a lucky tap is still BIS today because gear never becomes obsolete in BDO. In FFXIV if I quit playing for 6 months, everything on my character is obsolete and I have to grind weekly lockouts if I want to raid again; and all my bis raid gear I spent a hundred hours earning is useless.
    BDO also always has something weird and new every time I play. The recent expansion isn't like anything I've seen in an MMO, the new Dekia lantern system coming out this week changes every grind spot. The new crystal and artifact system allows for a ton of diversity and options. BDO just does cool new shit all the time without ever making you feel like your previous accomplishments have become obsolete.

  • @JustRuda
    @JustRuda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my perspective, BDO is the game you hate and love at the same time. I started BDO in 2015/16, and while I've tried other MMOs, none have held me as long as BDO. Even though I've rage quit, uninstalled the game a few times, and liquidated my gear, I've always come back to the game and gotten a little further than the previous playthrough. And the progression, loss and everything only BDO can really offer, with no other MMO does one get such a great feeling when progressing and building their empire.
    That's what keeps me with BDO all the time and I'm incredibly happy to see the way BDO is heading, over the last 2 years (of which I've been actively playing for a year and a half), you can see an incredible shift in a good direction.

  • @nicolaspeigne1429
    @nicolaspeigne1429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played Warthunder and BDO on and off over the years, i keep coming back to them because they have something unique that no competitor can approach to imitate. So even with all the cons you can find to them, and you can find a lot, i just keep resinstalling them

  • @crypterion_moon
    @crypterion_moon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Black spirit grins as he watches you blow your 10th accessory attempt, "Hehehe"

  • @Flinwe95
    @Flinwe95 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is something that needs to be watched by all the Lost Ark refugees and Asmon's community instead of trying to make our game change for their taste...

    • @Shiggy_
      @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya they don’t even know what they’re asking for. You physically can’t quick slot every skill, the combat wouldn’t make any sense.

  • @vonmeier
    @vonmeier ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been playing BDO since 2016 non-stop and this video got me weirdly hyped for it.

  • @seidrondaer2093
    @seidrondaer2093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ouch, that tet-distor attempt. I feel your pain.

  • @nintem7331
    @nintem7331 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video!

  • @Gahet
    @Gahet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been playing, quitting and coming back to BDO since before it was available in the West for all the reasons you so eloquently described here.

  • @RealStevenH
    @RealStevenH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've quit this game many times and always come back for the PvP. The combat system in this game surpasses other MMORPGs games I've seen.

  • @marvinwolf8360
    @marvinwolf8360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, BDO is the first game where I actually felt involved in the combat. Just running up to an enemy and pressing numbers in a row or watching your character auto attack whithout moving always felt lacking to me. I'm sure there are more intricacies but I never managed to get into them. Then I tried BDO on a whim because I happened to get it when you could get it for free for a time and it was exactly what I had been looking for. I tried to get back into RuneScape later only to realize that without the knowledge system and the entire map already visible there wasn't all that much incentive to go and explore. Or how tedious cooking can be when ingredients don't stack and the next bank is halfway across the town.

  • @vinoire5225
    @vinoire5225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely one of the better video on BDO in 2023 that i have watched

  • @CyberneticArgumentCreator
    @CyberneticArgumentCreator ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the reason is clear, as a long time player of BDO:
    If you get past the first week, you're in. You're going to stick with it. Its combat is SO good, its spread of activities and progression is virtually endless, and it respects your time by never having gear resets.If you had a max level (pen) Ogre Ring necklace in 2019, it's still an endgame item in 2023. No hamster wheel.
    The issue of the game has always been that first week of learning, but for many years they've pumped out refinements and changes to the new player experience such that it is way less daunting and holds your hand a bit more through the various systems. A new player will end their first season character's season with a GED in Black Desert systems as well as a decent full set of kick-off gear. That used to be months of hurdles, but can now be done in a few days for a new player.

    • @0xNobody
      @0xNobody ปีที่แล้ว

      if you had a pen ogre in 2019 you were 1 in 10000000

  • @newlegendaryloot
    @newlegendaryloot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I often feel like the niche games are the ones that end up being the best. The big popular ones that go for the catch all approach get lots off players but often don't really excel at any one thing in particular.

  • @siriell
    @siriell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserve an Asmongold raid bro!
    Such impressive quality of video. Gratz! New sub here :)

  • @MunsterNox
    @MunsterNox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good content and a nice voice. Keep doing what you do, you'll do great.

  • @ATalshani
    @ATalshani ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your voice! Ive been playing BDO since 2016. This video caught my eye cause the name of it is the name of my guild. LOL. Least someone in bdo knows what Dark Horse actually means!!

  • @sanko_
    @sanko_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only reason why it didnt fully die yet is cuz its filled with people that have insomnia, depression so they grind and grind AND then there are people that spent too much and due to financial reasons, they dont want the game to die, cuz it would mean they spent money on nothing.

  • @zSkinzy
    @zSkinzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, the gameplay alone always makes me come back even after years playing this game

  • @mrrailgun6440
    @mrrailgun6440 ปีที่แล้ว

    "RNG Hell" Accurate af. But that moment you do the impossible makes it all WORTH IT. Best MMO EVER!

  • @RavenoseCNG
    @RavenoseCNG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just one note the 26 classes is bit miss leading becous almost all exept 2 of those classes have a 2 specs(awakening/succession) that makes the classes feel compleatly different making it more like 50 classes in total but 2 of them (shai and archer) with no secound spec

  • @OptimusHighMegaBong
    @OptimusHighMegaBong ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been playing for 2 months , absolutely love the combat / combo system. Theres just nothing like it, especially with axe mama 😍

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love my tornado sand daddy 😎

  • @JayJr97
    @JayJr97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very well made video. Appreciate the effort and research you've put into it.

  • @steve69man420ayylmao
    @steve69man420ayylmao ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that zerk comment sounded like it was made from experience

  • @Halejandrino
    @Halejandrino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That black spirit always be grinning like the actual devil. 😂

  • @youarestoopud
    @youarestoopud ปีที่แล้ว

    PC BDO looks pretty cool. Too bad I'm on console and we're like 3 years behind on content - with no roadmap to catch back up.

  • @RvLicious69
    @RvLicious69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo I never thought of that, BDO is actually a 3rd person diablo

  • @triumph_cv
    @triumph_cv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very solid review. BDO continues to woo me back every few years and that's perfectly fine. It's great.

  • @SirMitsuruji5
    @SirMitsuruji5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My main issue is the failstacking mechanic to upgrade gear. Once I get to 57-60 I get extremely bored and quit for another 6 months.

  • @0xNobody
    @0xNobody ปีที่แล้ว

    Because we've spent over the years a lot of money :P , fun fact, I came back after a year. I sold my 2 tet tungrads. I bought 2 tri disto earrings. Both went tet.

  • @connykomen4237
    @connykomen4237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i kinda miss the old BDO feeling. No fast traveling, money had weight. It was much more realistic than it is today. Flagging up and group fights add sausans.
    But still its the best allround complete fantasy game u can play.

  • @MarcusTarr
    @MarcusTarr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! Thank you

  • @asolram
    @asolram ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The good thing about BDO is that is not trying to be something else, it is still true to its roots, and, while it does have its flaws; it is not trying to become just another copy paste from all the other MMOs out there. I have always read and appreciate the constructive feedback about the game, but people that bash on it just because doesn't play the way they are used to or the way you want is stupid, even more when they said is bad "game design", those are just people with very VERY closed minded "gamers". At my 40 something years old, I can still be proficient in pve/pvp using BDO combo system, so yeah, it is not about age or reaction, more about you like or not, are you willing to get out of your little mind/world and try something different, yes or no. Very good video and take on the game!

  • @jimmyjay3857
    @jimmyjay3857 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very refreshing video. Well put together.

  • @jayte5288
    @jayte5288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That ending hahahah true and true earn a sub!

  • @kevinsaqwe5817
    @kevinsaqwe5817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't agree more. Before i knew BDO i hate mmorpg genre i mean i tried it but it've never felt like it. Now i can proudly say I am addicted to BDO over 10k hours and counting

  • @boneylockz3967
    @boneylockz3967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been playing for 2 years now, I've been a FFXIV player since early ARR. I was off and on FFXIV because the game gets boring once you've made it to max level a couple of dozen times on multiple different classes, and trust me, I've had every class max level. In ARR once you hit lv50, there was literally NOTHING to do besides trying to get a house from Bots, Crafting, and Relics. I did neither of the above because at the time, Relics was extremely hard to get, and housing has always been an issue with bots. Then HW came into play, same thing, same experience, got to max level, got bored, nothing to do, same as ARR but now we had new Relics which SE made easier to get. Got it within a week and then got bored with the game again and continued to be off and on with it. Then we had Stormblood hit, same as ARR and HW, except NOW we can travel to China and experience Eureka. Eureka was the best thing that has came to FFXIV since I've been playing for ARR to SB during that time. I grinded Eureka for hours and encouraged friends to try it too! But then of course after time, a new Eureka mode came out.... Pagos, and Anemos was a wasteland. Had to join Discords and log on during busy hours just to get a good Anemos train if you had missed it. And then Pagos died, Pyros came out, then Hydratos came out and Pagos and Anemos was ghost towns, Pyros and Hydratos were the new big thing, especially since Hydratos had the Ozma Mount challenge. Later after some months had passed, the whole Eureka series died and you'd see like less than 10 players per Eureka instance. So my fun has went down the drain so I was forced to try something new. I started crafting and gathering to try to keep me entertained in FFXIV. Got all crafter and gatherers to max level including all classes to max level in like 2 months while only playing like 2-4hrs a day and would log on to do daily roulettes and then log right back off. Finally after a year or so, Shadowbringers came out, my brother and sister was hyped about SB so we all played together, best expansion so far imo, played for a long time and wanted to experience every single bit of content and new things to explore. But my hype went down the drain after being able to complete the game within a couple of hours if you spammed through the story without reading and left bored once you was done with everything as usual. I didn't really bother with grinding dungeons for the "Best Gear" or Raids or etc. because in about 2 months, all of the Raid gear or dungeon gear will be useless since you could easily buy similar HQ gear off the markets for 200k Gil each and now you're suddenly the best player for the next 2 months. lmao
    So I was fed up with the same ol same ol every year, so I finally semi-quit FFXIV, but I was told there is a "New Eureka" coming out. I quickly hopped back on the hype train but the new Eureka was errrrm, forgot what's it called, the war zone looking place, it was fun, the bosses were fun, the theme was awesome, everything was cool, but then you turn to the highest level and then it gets boring. So after that, I was done, I got tired of being bored, a friend of mine saw my Party Finder saying "Is there anything to do in this game? This game is boring if you have no friends and the PvP sucks! And good games out there?!" So my friend /whispered me saying I should try BDO because it's currently FREE at the moment and since I love PvP so much, that game would be a perfect fit for me since it meets all of my needs to what I like in a game, which are; Playing at my own pace, can play solo, can PvP 24/7, don't need to rely on others to progress. I was in heaven when I found BDO, the first months were tough but I adapted real fast and now I'm hooked on the game, can't even get off the game to try new games because everything feels slow now in terms of combat! But I love BDO, I'm 700gs now and my gear is still BIS and I PEARL Abyss don't make gear out of date like FFXIV did to me every month or so. Which means I could take months to grind silver to buy my next piece of gear to progress in gear score and there still wouldn't be a new BIS gear to make my new purchase useless! :D Next month I should be hitting 323ap and 396dp!

  • @keinanth
    @keinanth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good point! This is why Asmo and many other like him won't like BDO and compare it with WOW every time.. they just won't get it.. they do not like mmorpg, they like WOW... and they spect to every MMO be replication of wow, if it is not the same thing is not approved by them... they don't like it... I hope they stop talking bad about BDO..

  • @purgatoriprytania5382
    @purgatoriprytania5382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a really great video. Will you be making more BD content?

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most likely, as well as other games. If I feel like I have something to get off my chest ill probably do a video about it, and there's plenty of things I feel like I could say about bdo.

  • @minarya
    @minarya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good vid, agreed with a lot of your takes. Good work

  • @The_Nata
    @The_Nata ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My personal reasons why I like BDO is that it weirdly enough respects your time. I know this sounds strange but while yes the start is though once you got decent gear you have decent gear. You can even take a break of a year or more and once you come back you still have decent gear. Yes the enhancing is a huge cost (No, you don't need to pay real money) and time sink but you technically only have to do it once. Don't like your current class? Just take the gear you just enhanced and put it on the new class you want to play. Leveling new classes is also pretty quick, just do season and you end up at around 59-60 without much time put into it.

  • @akumawashere6620
    @akumawashere6620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually PVP is one of the things that for me if an MMO doesnt have its an insta quit. like why should i even bother gearing to kill a random spider 3sec faster than i did 2 months ago?

  • @dntkatz
    @dntkatz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was very hard to play BDO in the beginning But I am still playing. Although I still have no love for the up grade system the seasons have made my gameplay good enough to keep me in. I like many mostly play Life skill when not trying the new release. So as you say it is not perfect but I have been in BDO longer than I stayed in WOW.

  • @Rico.308
    @Rico.308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video got you my sub great work

  • @valentines92
    @valentines92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What i dont like in other mmorpg is its too easy to grind, quest, casual or no pvp, tab target mouse clicking game, max level in a week or 1 month and etc. 😂

  • @nagi8010
    @nagi8010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderfully said. I 've been playing bdo on and off for 5 years now but I just can't not go back to this game. What you said about the game being true to its own vision and not trying to be any other mmo is so satisfying to hear. If you don't like how the game is then the game is not for you, simple as that. Thanks again for the great video

  • @iwonderifdrugzarebad
    @iwonderifdrugzarebad ปีที่แล้ว

    Came back to bdo about a month ago. I’m loving it.

  • @chunky9340
    @chunky9340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid my guy

  • @cesarcandanozah7150
    @cesarcandanozah7150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love BDO. And the grind and enhancing? Well, i take it over the long run. Like some say, this game is a marathon and theres a lot to do besides traditional grinding.I play on Series S.

  • @xhydrox
    @xhydrox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I quit in like 2020 I believe. Recently came back because the devs seems to have fixed most of the issues I had with the game. Mad respect.

  • @davegoehrig7674
    @davegoehrig7674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have more BDO spreadsheets than I do for my household or business... If EVE had BDO's combat, it would be the greatest space game ever made... Pearl Abyss has made investing in playing their games rather rewarding, and the fact that real world endgame gear literally costs thousands to buy on the market make the cash shop basically useless for all but the wealthiest whales...

    • @GraveTheory
      @GraveTheory  ปีที่แล้ว

      I loved EVE online. Conceptually at least. I loved the depth and ambience of the game but yeah, the combat was uhhh.... well it was combat.

  • @TheSilverwolf97
    @TheSilverwolf97 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The number one reason why BDO is alive and healthy is because devs actually listen to constructive positive feedback from the player base. The game at launch was a mess worthy of it's toxic reputation but the devs consistently improved their game with each passing year all the way to today where the game's reputation is just untrue on every point people bring. Nowadays is just an incredibly good game with a lot of content although not perfect, mostly because the steep learning curve which tends to deter new players.

  • @mategido
    @mategido ปีที่แล้ว

    The only game that I think can compete with the amount of content BDO offers as things to do is OSRS. Then you add incredible Fighting Game combos intrinsically to your combat system and you got the most serotonin-squeezing games of all time. They only need to improve the cash shop more and keep releasing content

  • @balancebreaker1561
    @balancebreaker1561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the things you gotta admire about PA is staying true to their vision, for a company to do that now is extremely rare, community dont develop games, we test em and give feedback, im not saying the devs shouldn't consider some else in the community idea, but we gotta let companies make their games, if no one plays em they will know, but a lot of games have been ruined cuz devs changing their vision listening to the community then players quit which i find comical.

  • @ReleeSquirrel
    @ReleeSquirrel ปีที่แล้ว

    It always feels weird to me when folks categorize games like BDO, WoW, and FFXIV as one 'Genre'. They're so different! It's sorta like how Super Mario and Metroid are different, despite all the platforms and jumping. All "MMO" means is Massively Multiplayer Online, and everyone has a different definition of what that means in their head.
    Anyways great video. ^.^

  • @tronosphere
    @tronosphere ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think the reason it's still alive is there is a notable amount of players that just love the game and all its systems. that said there's about the same amount of American players as new world or less and I don't think its considered as a hit. some of the die hards are apparently all time level whales, however, I don't think they rly retain new players, ppl just get curious, check it out for the 1st-4th time, then quit. every top 10 MMO gets a bump with new content, this is the only one where I see content creators ignoring this point(mainly because they're sponsored from what I seen)

  • @Risu1177
    @Risu1177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's one of the very few games I come back to over and over. I can spend hours just life skilling. No other game can I spend time doing that.

  • @jimpatrickpascua
    @jimpatrickpascua ปีที่แล้ว

    perfectly summed up bdo, good job!

  • @e.ydrien
    @e.ydrien ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the most important part, even if people like it or not, is the devs. If you look into the mmo news lately, everyone is shitting on blizzard, everyone is shitting on amazon games, everyone is shitting on ncsoft, etc... Most MMO devs are taking shitty decisions that the playerbase dislike. Meanwhile, lately everytime Jaehee Kim, the executive producer of BDO, come out to talk to us, the fans are happy. They are constantly improving the game with quality of life updates thanks to the feedback of the players and adding new content. And BDO updates on a weekly basis, while most MMOs are just dead silent for months. Even talking about BDO as a niche game, which is true, due to increased popularity lately they are also slowly adding stuff that some new players might miss from more popular MMO with their own twists, so basically to me, BDO is slowly but surely becoming the best MMO for all.

    • @coreyunder90
      @coreyunder90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This exactly. Plus PA actually listens to their community complaints and fixes things the players are unhappy with. And they give out more free stuff thats actually useful than any other MMO.

    • @Mekose
      @Mekose ปีที่แล้ว

      PA is an incredible dev team that listens intently to their community about fixes and QoL; however they also have a strong vision for the game and aren't afraid to say no to suggestions that run counter to that vision; huge respect for that.

  • @jakechang5458
    @jakechang5458 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said! Been playing since Mystic release on PC and still haven't done 50% of what the game has to offer. To be honest, since playing BDO, all other MMO games have been ruined due to BDO's awesome combat system and beautiful graphics. This is the one and only game that a person can enjoy playing, get burnt out, quit, comeback and enjoy it all over again for many years to come.

  • @micke7261
    @micke7261 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible movie ! It's all true :) The whole strength of BDO is that it's a unique game among all MMOs. I love her with all the pros and cons !

  • @religionlol7323
    @religionlol7323 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a ton of content and stuff to do. I love grindy type games so it works well for me.