@trevonpernell0814 BvS didn't lose money unlike all the projects they made afterwards with the exception of joker, the batman, aquaman and suicide squad Everything else flopped and that's why WB are having to auction things like batmobile and costumes to avoid liquidation
Real violence has real consequences. This was Snyder's whole critique on Batman and why he had him kill in BVS. Beating criminals up night after night will eventually lead to someone's death. Either on purpose or by accident. Snyder's take was a realistic take on these characters. It was also done to show that Bruce was willing to go all the way against Superman.
nuh uh when cap hits people in the head with his shield they just fall down and go to sleep. batmans metal bats hit like nerf darts. everyone is ok after. they believe their equipment doesn't cause permanent damage or any at all. lol
It doesn’t help that Batman spent quite some time murdering and branding people in this timeline. Bruce has changed from that but he still has made those mistakes and has to confront them
Yeah, originally in BvS there was meant to be a short bit at the graveyard that did it as a mini reveal but it was scrapped due to WB still wanting to make a Nightwing movie.
The court of owls in the next Batman is what the world needs right now bro. It’s too on the nose of the times we live in, an actual villain worthy of a vigilante oligarch billionaire who stands outside of it, not one guy, but a cabal of evil elites.
I hate how batman's Rogue Gallery was limited in the DCEU like Why? I would rather have batfleck fight Bane, riddler, penguin, firefly, two face. It's just dumb how deadshot, Harley and joker, killer croc, and deathstroke were his only villains
@@MadMax-de5uhI always felt like by the time we met Ben's Batman/Bruce Wayne, he'd already fought Joker, Penguin, Riddler, Two/Face, Croc, Clayface, Ivy, Black Mask, etc and he was just at a burnt out phase in his life
They complicated things for Arrow. It was only when Felicity joined the team that he stopped dropping bodies, because she didnt like him killing folks. And then when he stopped, it was Felicity telling him he SHOULD off certain villains. It wasn't Oliver picking and choosing who dies, it was his friends putting him through the emotional ringer, no matter what choice he made. Damned if he did and damned if he didnt.
I still can’t believe we haven’t seen Deathstroke on the big screen yet. He is a physical and psychological threat to Batman like we haven’t really seen in the movies. I’d like to see a Matt Reeves take on him.
I've been saying for years now, I want a Rated R Batman film with all the fantastical elements, great special effects, & most importantly a great story.
Zack Snyder Said that the dead Robin was dick Grayson, which is dumb tbh That's the only thing I disagreed with him. There was so much material to build upon a red hood film and WB ruined it.
I so wanted to see this movie. And so wanted to see Deathstroke. Hopefully we get a live action Deathstroke soon. I was so excited for it and so disappointed when they decided not to do it. What a shame imperialism. I need bright side the new Superman trailer just dropped and I am pumped for that now!!
Daredevil Extended cut really fleshed out the plot and gave more depth to all the players including a more violent kingpin. Had to change my opinion on the film to positive after we got the "real" version. There are so many of these cancelled films with great premises but the real tragedy would be the compromised release like all of sony's spiderverse spinoffs (those venom movies are a crime to the character).
I keep wishing the DD Director's cut be released on stealing services but it's never happened. I may just have to end up paying to rent it, or look for a pirated copy lol
It was a huuuge mistake to not give us this movie. In times when 90% of superhero productions ends us as family friendly comedy movies without any depth, DC really needs such a movie. Lots of people want darker, more brutal DC stories where director takes the story of chosen comic characters seriously. Just look at the success of Nolan's realistic take. Or how much people loved last Batman movie. Downfall of DCEU started with the first Shazam movie, when instead of continuing what Snyder started, WB decided that it's time for cheap copies of Marvel's overused formula. But such style doesn't fit the most popular DC characters. We won't get adaptations of "Death in the family" or other classic Batman stories until studio will understand what DC fans expect to see. For now, DCU started with slightly more serious copy of Harley Quinn show in form of Creature Commando and Superman looks like a huge nostalgia bait similar to No Way Home. It's clear that we need a parallel storyline, separate from DCU, where movies will be more similar to Penguin, Batman, Joker (first one), MoS, BvS, ZSJL, Watchmen or Nolan's trilogy. You can call me edgy or whatever, I don't care :p
here is some "hate" from a snyder fan - the bleeding scene traces back to the movie 300 - the meaning behind it is that when you have a godlike character that seems unkillable and untouchable you don't have to destroy them. if you manage to make them bleed others will know it is possible to defeat them. the execution of that scene could have been done better
I think I heard somewhere that obviously Batman and Deathstroke had history but I think I heard it said that in the script there was going to be a flashback where Batman had saved a pre Two-Face Harvey Dent from being killed by Deathstroke because someone in Gotham had put a hit out on Harvey probably Penguin or one of the high crime bosses and I think the final battle was going to be Batman and Batgirl facing Deathstroke
I’m going to be honest, I never cared for afflecks Batman. I think it’s responsible for a lot of misconceptions that people have about Batman today. I respect the opinions of the people who wanted Ben afflecks Batman to continue, but I’m personally glad that we got Robert Pattinsons Batman instead.
Whatever led us to the current timeline where we have Matt Reeves' The Batman and its spinoff series and upcoming sequel... im happy it ended up this way.
The warehouse scene from 'Batman V Superman' is the BEST Batman action scene I've ever seen. Yeah, better than Burton, Nolan, Reeves, it's the best action I've ever seen from Batman in a movie. It's Rocksteady Batman on screen, it's perfect. The rest of the movie isn't in the same level, BUT... imagine an entire Batman movie like that scene? Now THAT I would pay for. I want to see a Batman that is showing all his expertise. I don't want none of that "oh it's realistic, he's just a guy" bs, NO! I want to see the best detective in the world, the best fighter, the absolute beast that terrifies Gotham. Oh and I want that suit. I don't want another armor. Unfortunately we'll probably never get that because DCEU is dead and Affleck is done. Maybe DCU can do something like that, once James Gunn stops fiddling with anything except A-list characters, but I doubt it will go that heavy.
Funny story but also good question: i remember having showbox and my oh my the DC section was super cool reading the upcoming movies and the (at the time) small details of what it is about etc. I think I've read about this somewhere and to this day the biggest what if nobody talks about is that we were close to get a DC vs Marvel movie (i think) with this lineup as well. Anyone remember reading the show box news?
I honestly think Christopher nolans dark knights broke the system for dc and batman, dont think any batman story can match that trilogy, but good luck to them trying!
I never understood why Bruce was mad at Superman during the Zod invasion. Yeah, hella people died during the alien one vs. one in Metropolis, but what was the alternative? Zod et. al. was planning to terraform the earth and literally wipe out every human being ever.
Because Schneider's Batman literally said "If there's just 1% of him posing a threat we must treat it as 100%". He got bored killing nameless thugs and decided to pick a bone with someone more powerful for funsizes. Hell, Lex Luthor's reason made more sense.
@@thientuongnguyen2564ARE YOU 2 REALLY THAT CLUELESS ??????? Bruce and Lex ended up being RIGHT about Superman. HE DID BECOME A THREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's like your brains don't actually work.
It’s a serious crime to humanity that this hasnt been put on film. Batfleck has been goated with the sauce but instead we got stuck Batboy Cobain. And instead of Cavill we get Diaperman.
Warner Brahs lacks the literal creative pears and spine. I liked Batfleck, he was easily the best part but the biggest fault about the Snyder shit was the writing. I love the Accountant, Live by Night and the Town (fun fact one of the writers of the film is Peter Craig, who went on to pen Top Gun Maverick and the Reeves Batman film, of which I am a big fan of). We should've gotten this as a proper send off for Batfleck instead of that abortionious Flash movie starring a real life predator.
not a fan of the snyderverse but they killed it too quickly and most problems with it come from WB imagine if the snydercut was the only JL movie, no harley quinn nonsense (idk if snyder was involved on that), firing whoever made ww2 and get a good team to make 3, ben affleck making a reeve style universe with an older batman and it goes from a terrible universe to a good one
Small mouth big talk but just as an advice....add a green screen and have the bgm blend more with the conversation......this is some serious content and it will blow up, just need a bit of polishing.
"I think they were gonna kill Alfred and Gordon was gonna end up in a coma" - any evidence? Huh? This is pure fan fiction, there is nothing backing any of this up 😂
Is there anyway we can get this film on a streaming service or something, we have multiple supermen and batmen out there in the theaters at this point. I WANT THIS MOVIE DANG IT, just give me this movie and I think I can let the synder verse go idk.
Glad to see someone else liked Ben Affleck in the accountant. Also Live By Night had execellent gun fights and he was great in that, I think he directed too. My favorite of his directed movies. Fck Argo, fckin cia propaganda BS, the town was fine, live by night, the 1920s Florida crime period piece was the sht. Hope that’s what it’s called lol it’s been a minute
I hated the Alfred from the Affleck batman. If it's who I'm thinking. He was way way way to sassy. I actually passed away from eye rolling too hard. Be careful out there it can happen to anyone
The Ben Affleck Daredevil is so infinitely better than the Netflix one, its not even funny. I really don't understand why the latter is so revered, when it is very mediocre, verging on garbage. The only thing they got right are the costumes. All the rest was terrible.
@@Cinemavigilante So you like bad one-note acting (pretty much all actors), terrible character development, a whiny bitchy Kingpin, and episodes full of mainly filler ? I won't stop you from watching
Deathstroke was gonna systematically dismantle Bruce's entire life from the inside out. It was gonna be glorious.
The fans were robbed by this stupid studio.
Three letters: BvS.
Bullshit. Bvs was ruined by the studio itself@@trevonpernell0814
Same thing with the Batman Beyond animated movie we were supposed to get
@trevonpernell0814 BvS didn't lose money unlike all the projects they made afterwards with the exception of joker, the batman, aquaman and suicide squad
Everything else flopped and that's why WB are having to auction things like batmobile and costumes to avoid liquidation
We got Pattinson instead of that abomination of a Batman.
Thank you, WBD 🙏
Real violence has real consequences. This was Snyder's whole critique on Batman and why he had him kill in BVS. Beating criminals up night after night will eventually lead to someone's death. Either on purpose or by accident.
Snyder's take was a realistic take on these characters. It was also done to show that Bruce was willing to go all the way against Superman.
Should've wrote a comic book, not a trash movie.
@@sigmalaflarebatman was never your goffy arse superheroes
nuh uh when cap hits people in the head with his shield they just fall down and go to sleep. batmans metal bats hit like nerf darts. everyone is ok after. they believe their equipment doesn't cause permanent damage or any at all. lol
Always felt that Snyder makes a good point but inserts too much of his own opinions into the characters.
It doesn’t help that Batman spent quite some time murdering and branding people in this timeline. Bruce has changed from that but he still has made those mistakes and has to confront them
They canceled it because you're too powerful for the big screen
We were robbed out of seeing more of a live action slade, man
Correction: 8:28 it was Dick Grayson, who died not Jason Todd. Behind the scenes confirmed it
Yeah, originally in BvS there was meant to be a short bit at the graveyard that did it as a mini reveal but it was scrapped due to WB still wanting to make a Nightwing movie.
@@honoramongscars649si eso siempre fue raro
What’s wild….is that the script is done and is just collecting dust….
Man, I'd die a happy man if James Gunn announced this as the plot of Batman: Brave and the Bold with Affleck back in the cowl
James Gunn is a silly coward... even his fans are madly Goofy
@@ERARonin All good, you all need to lighten up anyway.
@@letoiimuaddib-rm1ur light your sugar then, Kid!!!
Did you need your milk and cookies 🍪?!!* 🥱
The court of owls in the next Batman is what the world needs right now bro. It’s too on the nose of the times we live in, an actual villain worthy of a vigilante oligarch billionaire who stands outside of it, not one guy, but a cabal of evil elites.
I believe it should be in the DCU at somepoint (maybe even in Brave and the Bold) but it shouldn't be in the Reeves Batman movies.
I hate how batman's Rogue Gallery was limited in the DCEU like Why? I would rather have batfleck fight Bane, riddler, penguin, firefly, two face. It's just dumb how deadshot, Harley and joker, killer croc, and deathstroke were his only villains
Well Riddler exists too, in the original storyboards. And the others may exist too we just haven’t seen them.
Penguin was referenced in the Killer Croc lore apparently he was a rival mob boss to Croc
@@MadMax-de5uhI always felt like by the time we met Ben's Batman/Bruce Wayne, he'd already fought Joker, Penguin, Riddler, Two/Face, Croc, Clayface, Ivy, Black Mask, etc and he was just at a burnt out phase in his life
They complicated things for Arrow. It was only when Felicity joined the team that he stopped dropping bodies, because she didnt like him killing folks. And then when he stopped, it was Felicity telling him he SHOULD off certain villains. It wasn't Oliver picking and choosing who dies, it was his friends putting him through the emotional ringer, no matter what choice he made. Damned if he did and damned if he didnt.
I still can’t believe we haven’t seen Deathstroke on the big screen yet. He is a physical and psychological threat to Batman like we haven’t really seen in the movies. I’d like to see a Matt Reeves take on him.
There is a live action Slade in Titans
@ I meant on the movie screen as the main villain not on the small screen like Arrow/Titans.
No es un villano de Batman
Ngl we wanted it
Never underestimate the ability for the WB to mess up a good thing.
I would have absolutely loved to see this Batman story on the big screen. What an absolute waste
This sounds like a Batman Arkham asylum movie awesome
I’m not a Snyder fan but at least WB could let the man finish his vision this movie sounds awesome
Instead WB is giving us a mutt in a cape
I've been saying for years now, I want a Rated R Batman film with all the fantastical elements, great special effects, & most importantly a great story.
Pretty happy i discovered this channel. You're hilarious man😂
This and how they did Henry is why I can never trust the studio again.
Zack Snyder Said that the dead Robin was dick Grayson, which is dumb tbh That's the only thing I disagreed with him. There was so much material to build upon a red hood film and WB ruined it.
What did you expect? He literally said "F the materials", that already showed who the hell let Schneider in to direct.
At least slade got an apology face to face.
I'm sure Bruce Wayne would have restitution for him, too.
0:15 Zaffy so popular, people are already copying his look.
One assassin that looks like me? Hmm seems like you might be that son you were talking about👀😂
10k subs and rising... 👍
Thanks my man!!!
@@Cinemavigilante I was like Hachiko waiting for this film.
I so wanted to see this movie. And so wanted to see Deathstroke. Hopefully we get a live action Deathstroke soon. I was so excited for it and so disappointed when they decided not to do it. What a shame imperialism. I need bright side the new Superman trailer just dropped and I am pumped for that now!!
Daredevil Extended cut really fleshed out the plot and gave more depth to all the players including a more violent kingpin. Had to change my opinion on the film to positive after we got the "real" version.
There are so many of these cancelled films with great premises but the real tragedy would be the compromised release like all of sony's spiderverse spinoffs (those venom movies are a crime to the character).
I keep wishing the DD Director's cut be released on stealing services but it's never happened. I may just have to end up paying to rent it, or look for a pirated copy lol
Bataman: "Do you bleed?"
Superman: "Why do you ask?"
Batman: "Because I have tampons."
I see Zaffy I click 🔥🔥
This definitely would’ve been my fav Batman film of all time.
Killer Video homie!!! Slade is a top tier villain.
Best Snyder film was 300
Its Dawn of the Dead for me
Nah it's Watchmen.
@@satnav1980 it's weird how movies he didn't write are his bangers lol
It was a huuuge mistake to not give us this movie. In times when 90% of superhero productions ends us as family friendly comedy movies without any depth, DC really needs such a movie. Lots of people want darker, more brutal DC stories where director takes the story of chosen comic characters seriously. Just look at the success of Nolan's realistic take. Or how much people loved last Batman movie. Downfall of DCEU started with the first Shazam movie, when instead of continuing what Snyder started, WB decided that it's time for cheap copies of Marvel's overused formula. But such style doesn't fit the most popular DC characters. We won't get adaptations of "Death in the family" or other classic Batman stories until studio will understand what DC fans expect to see.
For now, DCU started with slightly more serious copy of Harley Quinn show in form of Creature Commando and Superman looks like a huge nostalgia bait similar to No Way Home. It's clear that we need a parallel storyline, separate from DCU, where movies will be more similar to Penguin, Batman, Joker (first one), MoS, BvS, ZSJL, Watchmen or Nolan's trilogy.
You can call me edgy or whatever, I don't care :p
here is some "hate" from a snyder fan - the bleeding scene traces back to the movie 300 - the meaning behind it is that when you have a godlike character that seems unkillable and untouchable you don't have to destroy them. if you manage to make them bleed others will know it is possible to defeat them. the execution of that scene could have been done better
Should have added a hardcore sex scene between Cavill and Adams.
He fumbled Ana de Armas..😅.. Even Darkseid couldn't abide by that..
I think I heard somewhere that obviously Batman and Deathstroke had history but I think I heard it said that in the script there was going to be a flashback where Batman had saved a pre Two-Face Harvey Dent from being killed by Deathstroke because someone in Gotham had put a hit out on Harvey probably Penguin or one of the high crime bosses and I think the final battle was going to be Batman and Batgirl facing Deathstroke
It wil be nice if WB makes a dark classic Batman solo movie with Affleck without aliens and flying guys.
I’m going to be honest, I never cared for afflecks Batman. I think it’s responsible for a lot of misconceptions that people have about Batman today. I respect the opinions of the people who wanted Ben afflecks Batman to continue, but I’m personally glad that we got Robert Pattinsons Batman instead.
It’s like when Bruce Wayne lost his money in TDKR.
People that rich CANNOT go broke 😄
Not that I don't like the new one I absolutely love it! But I definitely would have preferred this in the one we got
I’m convinced the robin that died would be slades son
Whatever led us to the current timeline where we have Matt Reeves' The Batman and its spinoff series and upcoming sequel... im happy it ended up this way.
Hush for Batman 3 would be sickkkkkk
13:42 😂 I forgot that movie even existed
Birds of Prey
Basically when you're sins follow you home, is one way you could describe what this movie could have been.
If it had been made.
Batfleck absolutely should have got their stand alone. Big miss by warner bros.
Hey, Gunn asked him to stay...
The warehouse scene from 'Batman V Superman' is the BEST Batman action scene I've ever seen. Yeah, better than Burton, Nolan, Reeves, it's the best action I've ever seen from Batman in a movie. It's Rocksteady Batman on screen, it's perfect.
The rest of the movie isn't in the same level, BUT... imagine an entire Batman movie like that scene? Now THAT I would pay for. I want to see a Batman that is showing all his expertise. I don't want none of that "oh it's realistic, he's just a guy" bs, NO! I want to see the best detective in the world, the best fighter, the absolute beast that terrifies Gotham. Oh and I want that suit. I don't want another armor.
Unfortunately we'll probably never get that because DCEU is dead and Affleck is done. Maybe DCU can do something like that, once James Gunn stops fiddling with anything except A-list characters, but I doubt it will go that heavy.
Oh btw: Snyderverse dead-Robin was Grayson, not Todd.
Funny story but also good question: i remember having showbox and my oh my the DC section was super cool reading the upcoming movies and the (at the time) small details of what it is about etc. I think I've read about this somewhere and to this day the biggest what if nobody talks about is that we were close to get a DC vs Marvel movie (i think) with this lineup as well. Anyone remember reading the show box news?
I honestly think Christopher nolans dark knights broke the system for dc and batman, dont think any batman story can match that trilogy, but good luck to them trying!
I never understood why Bruce was mad at Superman during the Zod invasion. Yeah, hella people died during the alien one vs. one in Metropolis, but what was the alternative? Zod et. al. was planning to terraform the earth and literally wipe out every human being ever.
Because Schneider's Batman literally said "If there's just 1% of him posing a threat we must treat it as 100%". He got bored killing nameless thugs and decided to pick a bone with someone more powerful for funsizes. Hell, Lex Luthor's reason made more sense.
@@thientuongnguyen2564ARE YOU 2 REALLY THAT CLUELESS ???????
Bruce and Lex ended up being RIGHT about Superman.
HE DID BECOME A THREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's like your brains don't actually work.
Wouldve been nice to see but the teen titans and nightwing fans would've cried a river for batman stealing their favorite villain
It’s a serious crime to humanity that this hasnt been put on film. Batfleck has been goated with the sauce but instead we got stuck Batboy Cobain. And instead of Cavill we get Diaperman.
nah diaperman looking pree dope tho
@@Cinemavigilante supermeh dawn of diaper??? ain’t feelin it
I liked batfleck.
I was super excited for the snyderverse tbh.
batman vs deathstroke cg fight..... still good
we were robbed by Mr Toilet Humour Gunn and that fool Zaslav!!!!
Warner Brahs lacks the literal creative pears and spine. I liked Batfleck, he was easily the best part but the biggest fault about the Snyder shit was the writing. I love the Accountant, Live by Night and the Town (fun fact one of the writers of the film is Peter Craig, who went on to pen Top Gun Maverick and the Reeves Batman film, of which I am a big fan of). We should've gotten this as a proper send off for Batfleck instead of that abortionious Flash movie starring a real life predator.
#MakeTheBatfleckMovie #FireJamesGunn #BoycottWBD #BoycottDCstudios #RestoreTheSnyderverse
nah let james cook
@@Cinemavigilante No It’s Not, Gunnbot!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottWBD #BoycottDCstudios #RestoreTheSnyderverse
Superman trailer take when?
tomorrow
not a fan of the snyderverse but they killed it too quickly and most problems with it come from WB
imagine if the snydercut was the only JL movie, no harley quinn nonsense (idk if snyder was involved on that), firing whoever made ww2 and get a good team to make 3, ben affleck making a reeve style universe with an older batman and it goes from a terrible universe to a good one
This would've been so legendary but...nope
Good! Comic book culture and collectors have been riding the boring "dark and edgy" train far too long.
Small mouth big talk but just as an advice....add a green screen and have the bgm blend more with the conversation......this is some serious content and it will blow up, just need a bit of polishing.
I'd like to watch a video about Frank Milller's Sin City and comparing video game The Wolf Among Us and it's original comic books Fables.
I feel like this guy might be a a lil biased when it comes to a deathstroke batman film idk cant quite put my finger on it
"I think they were gonna kill Alfred and Gordon was gonna end up in a coma" - any evidence? Huh? This is pure fan fiction, there is nothing backing any of this up 😂
Both Ben and Joe confirmed that the plot involved deathstroke killing people very close to Bruce
Why would you want slade dead though?
Is there anyway we can get this film on a streaming service or something, we have multiple supermen and batmen out there in the theaters at this point. I WANT THIS MOVIE DANG IT, just give me this movie and I think I can let the synder verse go idk.
Glad to see someone else liked Ben Affleck in the accountant. Also Live By Night had execellent gun fights and he was great in that, I think he directed too. My favorite of his directed movies. Fck Argo, fckin cia propaganda BS, the town was fine, live by night, the 1920s Florida crime period piece was the sht. Hope that’s what it’s called lol it’s been a minute
I agree.
W
Omg! Are u trying to start a masked league of tubers? Can I join?
Huge fan of Ben Affleck but Bruh how u fumble Ana de Armas🤦🏾♂️
Bro talks like he's on a deadline
I hated the Alfred from the Affleck batman. If it's who I'm thinking. He was way way way to sassy. I actually passed away from eye rolling too hard. Be careful out there it can happen to anyone
I like you. 🤭
The Ben Affleck Daredevil is so infinitely better than the Netflix one, its not even funny. I really don't understand why the latter is so revered, when it is very mediocre, verging on garbage. The only thing they got right are the costumes. All the rest was terrible.
Stop
@@Cinemavigilante So you like bad one-note acting (pretty much all actors), terrible character development, a whiny bitchy Kingpin, and episodes full of mainly filler ? I won't stop you from watching