As a person who has read both novels and webtoons, I would say TBATE is better. Story telling and world building in TBATE is on another level, the novel got me hooked like crazy. I never felt that the story in the novel drops in quality, acutally is other way around. It never stops getting better and better with each volume.
The actual story hasn't even started in the webcomic, the light novel is honestly breathtaking and just wait till the war arc starts in the webcomic (On a side note I'd also absolutely recommend Shadowslave, every chapter will keep you on the edge of your seat)
I just finished the webcomic so far. We on the war arc now. I lost it when Arthur came bck and was about to fuck everyone up from not letting him leave. It’s about to go Dwn Next ch. them ships coming and I’m here for all the bs!!
@@NovaLance Yeah since s1 would probably be his childhood and sht and art in elenoir kingdom it wouldn't catch attention by plot alone, like tower of god some people underrate it because what the anime has adapted so far is just the prologue, but it would def become very popular by the time Arthur vs Lucas got animated
Lol yeah but there’s definitely a way they can make the first season interesting. Like remember scenes with the bandits and that stuff. Just gotta cross my fingers lol
@@NovaLance I chuckled because you mentioned the scenes with the bandits and then fingers and i instantly thought of the moment Art saved Tess in the forest when he cut off one guy's fingers with his first dash
As a person that has read the light novel, the author is amazing at writing. every single chapter that he writes gets better and better and he keeps improving his writing. At times it can feel like im right there in the world with them. Its honestly so amazing nothing compares to it.
frfr it goes form good writer in volume 1-2 to great writer in 3-5 to amazing writer in 6 to incredible writer in 7(read the last few chapters of 7, heartbreaking but so good) to what the hell is this shit its so fucking good in 8-9 and 10 is literally almost perfect, you can feel it getting better. I can't even imagine how good tbate would be if it was rewritten now.
Man I read both the manhwas as my first one ever was solo leveling and the second one was tbate I loved both of them reread multiple times. Never started light novel as I want to see it visually. For the longest time I couldn't choose between either as solo leveling's impression as the gateway that made me discovery new form of entertainment I completely fell in love with players a major role.on other side tbate was the perfect I mean the perfect fantasy story for me it resonated for me (as from my childhood I was always in love with fantasy genre I used to read fantasy novels all the time )and tbate culminated into perfection .so to me it was equal till now but After couple years and since the manhwa has also finished now looking at in retrospect I am not that hyped up as I used to be now ,I like it love it but I have screamed enough about it at this point so with a "unbiased" outlook tbate surpasses solo leveling in almost everything,but my one flaw in both the series is that in solo leveling it for me felt abrupt in ending and for tbate turtle should have relaxed on the sufferings Arthur was subjected to and would have been better for me if the dark and grim stuff was reduced little,still if by the end of ln the story had a happy ending I am more than Happy
I feel I can relate to this. Solo leveling is the perfect entry way to webcomics. I started and dropped TBATE a few times because of how slow the start was. And then I went on to read solo leveling. Then I saw one picture of Arthur controlling four elements and that 1 picture made me push through the first 10 chapters of TBATE and then I started to get into it. I do think that Arthur might have a happy ending BUT, it’s not looking very likely lmao
@@NovaLancecool 👍I had a similar experience with tower of god as I have started reading the chp0 multiple times like 10-15+but for some reason I couldn't push through more than 2 yrs I even had all the chps downloaded too but I couldn't start felt like a big thing to start but in an unexpected way without expecting anything I started it a month back and I finished in a week . Let's hope Arthur is happy at the end and also the volumes goes on on without abrupt ending
TBATE is so unbelievably great! I started out with the webcomic when they were still releasing new chapters (they’ll be on hiatus for at least another year so sorry folks) I fucking devoured books 6-9 the webcomic leaves off at book 5 or 6 ish. I forced myself to forget about the series for months on end then book 10 dropped and I’ve finished my second read through it. Now I’m reading ahead on Tapas. Without spoiling, the story keeps getting better (book 5 not withstanding). Books 7, & 9, have huge climaxes in them and book 10 has an amazing emotional climax at the very end. So if you’re joining us now I’d say you’ll have plenty of time to be hooked reading through the webcomic and novels and getting caught up and then book 11 will drop and based on what I’ve read of it so far, it’ll blow your socks off.
Yaaaas! Tbate is very good so far. I finished manga, now reading novel (300 chapters in) story is on another tier than solo leveling. If it ever gets animated, it would easily land in my top 5 animes no doubt
Oof... Well i haven't yet finished TBATE but for now I think it's better then solo leveling. I got like 100 chapters in and it's my first day of reading. And it even already made me cry at one point which solo leveling only managed to do at the end. And TBATE made me laugh and get hyped way more times. Still love solo leveling tho
@@NovaLance finished the manhua in 2 day's, i didn't start the novel yet tho. Also what kind of drugs are sprinkled on it to make a dyslexic person forgot the tiredness and finish it so quickly! ...sorry solo leveling you were great, but DANG
Man i was crying while reading the LN. This shit never happened for me before, crying while reading a book, no images, no actors to make the scenes sadder, just words were enough to make me cry. Atm i cant find anything that comes closer to tbate in form of story progression and the personages development. Im biased rn cause im too invested into the story
@@NovaLance a lot tbh. His first reunion with his family after escorting Tess, his second reunion with his family, when he told his parents about his past life Spoilers from ln . . . . . . . . . When Rey died, i cried the whole time, when he saw his dad corpse, when being consoled by Virion and he was about to make out with Tess i was screaming "Dont do it, its not the time". Just finished today volume 7 so i dont know about future events
Ahhh okay okay the rey one got me so bad. I was listening to the audio book and it was phenomenal. When he met Tess after and they both had their own issues was just sad af. Ohhhhh okay okay book 8 and 9 are really good. Depending on how you see the story. But I haven’t read the latest book yet
Im just finished light novel book 7 good god its amazing. And flat out a travesty this series doesbt have a serious anime behind it this story is too good to not be told
@@abhishek.bhandarii not trying to start a fight, but there is no way SL is better than TBATE. All the other characters of SL aside from the MC is discarded or forgotten lmao. (Except the FL I guess, but she didn't really made such a great impact). But, I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
Bruhhhh both of them is god like manwha bro 😭😭 Hope that Tbate gets all his chapters turn into comics even it takes a long time and I hope Cecilia leaves Tessia body plsss and at solo leveling all of the chapter of it is so fire dude even the new one today so cool and I'm so lucky it my Birthday today hahahah
If u have read the Light novel than something i like is that they actually made a GOOD war arc. Like its more realistic with how it isnt just Arrhur doing every sing major battle but there are others also fighting and doing their best, also how there is actual death. R.I.P my boi Reynolds
I love TBATE Solo Levelling has a special place in my heart too, however TBATE has romance, a school setting for magic users, progression of time as MC ages, kingdoms each with their royalty (races of humans, elves and dwarves), families known for their reputable mages, more emotions in terms of real life emotions from characters, which Solo Levelling doesn't have but are a great addition to a satisfying read. Also although cool, Solo Levelling MC was a bit too emotionless and boring, yeh he showed anger, when fellow adventurers were hurt or a face of struggling whilst fighting an enemy or sadness when it came to his family, but that was it and no other normal emotions were given to the MC. Only 2 things TBATE did wrong was: They never introduced the strong families, explored them or gave them any lime light. Which would've made it even better, this is usually done in chinese martial arts manhua's to show the tier system of the different families. They could have shown other people that adventure and and are known famously for their powerful feats, but this isn't done. Also there are too many weak people in TBATE imo, the base level of mages should be a bit higher. I'll give the example of a time when high ranking adventures were struggling just because there were too many E class monsters. TBATE still needs to get to it's war arc in the webtoon/manhwa. All in all I would rank TBATE higher!
That’s honestly a very vivid description of the differences between the two. I will say tho that I finished solo leveling in like 2 days because it just doesn’t let you put it down. But when you finish, you realize the shallow aspects TBATE however took a while for me to like. The only reason I started was because of that picture that shows Arthur controlling all the elements (that scene was never drawn and the Arthur in the story didn’t look like that one 😅) but it was like clickbait that hooked me lol Yeah there are some aspects that I wish would’ve fleshed out others. Like I wouldn’t mind good chunks of the story making us follow people who have no idea who Arthur is and don’t meet him. That helps build up the world but everything is better in hindsight
I read both the webtoon and the novel for both stories and like, TBATE completly destroys solo leveling and almost every other story ever created, fuck shakespear, Turtleme is the goat
"The real man", if you're in for depth and complex writing then you will like this...i studied a bit of economics and politics and i am not confident i understood everything
You could use better ways to sell this tho. It's a story that doesn't reinvent the wheel. It's a basic concept but the story telling and world building is exquisite. That's what carries this novel. You don't need to reinvent the wheel, just keep the storyline consistent, don't let the quality of the writing drop. That's all. That is why TBATE is soo good.
@@NovaLance well I just quoted it cause it wasn't really true also the video is good i just wish you had read the novel cause the video would have way more and better explaining and info
@@user-dx7lt6yj4e Imma be honest I'm reading the Light Novel now it's so good, like everything that could just be drawn is explained in detail using such elegant language so for me the Light Novel is better, also when Arthur got arrested he touched Array's butt by an accident but they skipped that in the comic
@@NovaLance and still later I un the Ln Arthur suffers and is tested physically and mentally a lot of times. He actually has a few moral dilemmas and some regular and emotional thoughts that I can actuallysympathize with. All in all he actually has character traits. This was pretty long
I just downloaded the light novels and I have the manhua bookmarked that and solo leveling. I'm always looking for good things to read and I've heard about those two in the past 6 months or so.
Solo leveling Manhwa will be insanely fast for you to get through just coz of the nature of it. TBATE does start slow but if it hooks you, you’ll love it
@@NovaLance I love that it's a lot My very first books as a kid was Harry Potter so the denser of the story the more happy I will be. It's weird because I thought about them like 6 months ago but now that solo leveling is getting an anime I feel like I should expose myself to these things first so that I have a point of comparison.
I like solo leveling better but it's probably only got 30 more chapters before it's gone through the entire light novel. So after that the beginning after the end will be my main.
@@NovaLance I was reading the books, but I do like the comic better than the novel just because I'm more of a visually inclined person. The novels are really good though.
Same lol. The season 4 for TBATE ended and won’t come back for a few months so I’m reading book 4, I’m almost done with that. I’m glad I have an idea of how they look already
I suggest Second Life Ranker. I feel like it is the only manhwa that holds a candle to Solo Leveling and TBATE. It's engaging, the character isn't OP at the beginning, but he's smart, has experience with life and death scenarios, and has knowledge of things no one else does, thanks to his brother. And as the story goes forward, it just keeps getting better and better.
Read both solo leveling and reading tbate. Personally I think Tbate is better. Really liked solo leveling. One other to add to this list is second life ranker. It is awesome
@@NovaLance I would put it just below solo leveling. It is as good as solo leveling but the writing is not as detailed. I read mostly light novels. I like the comics but I feel like they lack all of the detail from the books/light novels. Good stuff by the way. Keep it up, your content is great 👍
Thanks I appreciate it. And yeah I started TBATE with the comic but reading the light novel is a different beast for my mind coz turtle me doesn’t even hesitate to describe heat coming from food
well I think that right now at this point in time solo leveling is better, but if tbate follows the light novels correctly then I'll have to say tbate is better
Solo Leveling would probably do better for an anime selling point but if you stick with TBATE and read the novel you would see how better it is, how it keeps getting better, it feels like you seeing the author getting better with time. TBATE starts slow, generic and as nothing surprising nor new but as time goes on the author find the way to evolve and improve the story.
as much as i hate to say it i have to give that to Tbate. Tbate story telling, power system, magic system, story building and characters are on a whole another level than solo leveling. Not that solo leveling is bad by any means its just when i looked at it back solo leveling felt pretty underwelming compared to Tbate deffinetly read both whoever didnt do so up to now, both are worth reading and worth your time.
@@NovaLance I think it’s a 9/10 as I really like the story set up and how the Mc portrays himself to everyone else, I also really like the sword fights and it feels so raw and emotional during some scenes. You should definitely check it out.
Can anyone tell me where to read tbate? I read the first 6 episodes of the webcomic on Tapas but you need some kind of currency to progress into the series
This got a webcomic? I just recently recently read the first volume of the lightnovel. From what i've seen just now, it is kinda difficult to compare the two. Solo leveling is happening within such a short time frame, a few months, a year, maybe. Arthur starts out as a newborn. Not really novel to be honest. Both concepts are already quite worn. I would have wished for a little more Sylvia in the the first volume, but that wish will remain unfulfilled, i guess. I liked it, but it didn't blow my mind. Ascendance of a bookworm is still my fav lightnovel series.
I might start reading the light novel soon as well. The author said in the webcomic he made some changes that he couldn’t in the original. Yeah the Sylvia plot line was a lost gem. Might need to read tHat bookworm one
Actually, it is quite novel that the Arthur's original world is another, alternate fantasy world. Arthur's original world would fit as the fantasy world of reincarnation in another series. Even mushoku tensei just took a random neet from modern day Japan.
Um spoiler alert? I got everything for you, as a mage, he was a quadra (4) elemental mage who eventually reached white core, had a decent mastery in most elements, and later on started relying on ice and lightning deviant magic since they were big dmg aoes which was later on fixed when he took like a 2 months break from being a (...... ) to basically every day spar against 4 masters of each elements which got him overall better everything and he got smarter with the elements as well, like using wind magic to actually slow down his opponents fist or making vacuums instead of just using it to be faster while running. Then besides Sylvie, he's got Sylvias beast will where he can separate himself and others if he wants to from the flow of time ( basically time stop) which would always take a massive toll on his body no matter how much he'd train as itime aether path(?) i forgot the name isnt what his body is supposed to do its like trying to breathe underwater for humans ig and second phase aka realmheart that covers his body in runes and to make a braindead translation gives him a nice powerup and letting him see mana particles as well as aether particles while letting him control mana in a way superior way. He also had figured out burst step on his own which was basically by knowing anatomy forcing specific muscles in his leg to be triggered, but he couldnt really use it cause his human body was too weak and his muscles & ligaments would get torn. After the end of Vol 7 and with the start of Volume 8, Art awakens in alacryan relictomb and uhh, well firstly, Regis ( a sentient weapon) which was born from the acclorite that W.K forced into arts palm in his training in epotheus, was born tho incomplete and was at that time a will o wisp thingy that wasnt really tangible( now his second form is a wolf with horns and flame mane kinda), he could and still can go into arthus body, firstly tho, Art created an aether core after his mana core was shattered and now with the body of an asura (thanks to sylv ): ..... ), so with the body of a deity + aether augmentation, while not being able to manipulate/see/ or sense mana at all, he has regeneration as long as theres aether in his body to be burned in order to heal him, a strength that already in his first relictomb ascend surpasses his white core strength alone, and durability. His speed isnt nearly as good as before now tho, which is sad but with him collecting all the godrunes, besides Destruction Rune (carried by regis because art would lose his sanity when using it and had to stab himself in the thigh to not go insane) that is manifested as a purple flame because Destruction isnt really a thing that has a look, so the rune took on what would Arthur imagine as destruction, and then the speed itself was kinda fixed with Godstep Rune which is a >>>>> version of Burst Step which is so fast it basically takes Arthur to a predetermined place almost like a wormhole, then he got the avoas requiem rune which can bring things back to life ( not people) and an extra decently sized dimensional storage rune ( which is useful cause he cant use the rings that mages use to store small stuff in them because he doesnt have any mana). Plus a rune that lets him create claws with aether / and now i think he can make a sword with it(?), before that he also had or still has idk a dagger that can be augmented with aether without shattering like almost every other weapon would, cause he sadly lost his dawns ballad which was already dulled with melted tip after his fight against jagrette( his first retainer fight) but still used it till it was shattered by cadell ( scythe, the one who took Sylvia at the start of tbate), as the weapon was still while being basically destroyed better than any sword a non asura could forge. Hope you don't mind it being a little longer cause its the entire thing 🙂🙂🙂
I’d say for manwha for me it goes 1tbate 2 tower of god 3 solo leveling Tower of god sets up a lot of mystery and seeds of a larger world in season 1 then season 2 goes off
I started but I dropped coz the art in the parts I was reading was pretty messy. I have heard great things about tho, that the world building can match onepiece but idk, I’ll try again later
rn im reading manwha or webtoon or the online manga or whatever but should i read LN instead i like seeing pictures but if the lightnovel is alot better i will read it
Yeah it is, but where they’ve reached now is so hype that waiting weekly might annoy you 😂 At the time when I caught up they took a break for like 3 months so it was easy to move to the LN
I love tbate, but the recent volumes release, I felt like they are stretching the story. there are some uncecesarry POV chapters and Relic Tombs stage.
@@NovaLance I can see that. All the people saying the story is just beginning are totally right. In the next few weeks one of my favorite scenes is coming in the manhwa so for once I am also excited for the manhwa chapter.
@@NovaLance I've read it, its not better, its a decent story, but i feel like this man only caught up the comic of tbate, the novel is unparalled in peakness.
one day i finished tbate manhwa but im interested in next story so i ended up reading a LN for the very first time and oh my fucking god the LN is sooooo goooood FR bro i was expecting it to be boring because there is no illustrations but not at all its so fun reading it also when will regis came into the manhwa i wanna see people reaction after seeing this very cultured wolf
i will say that solo leveling's build up for the last war was weak but they have shown mc very well , not statisfied with hte ending tho . on the other hand TBATE is a piece of art i have read 145 ch by now at it kills hard i wish i could read novel tho as i would have ended it :(
As a person who has read both novels and webtoons, I would say TBATE is better. Story telling and world building in TBATE is on another level, the novel got me hooked like crazy. I never felt that the story in the novel drops in quality, acutally is other way around.
It never stops getting better and better with each volume.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 same way I felt
Book 10 comes out today :)
Well, the first chapter atleast
@@auris_aurantiaco9773 🔥🔥
is it the story or how the novel narrates it, cause i’m sure the manwha does better than the novel for what there is
same and fax ...
The actual story hasn't even started in the webcomic, the light novel is honestly breathtaking and just wait till the war arc starts in the webcomic
(On a side note I'd also absolutely recommend Shadowslave, every chapter will keep you on the edge of your seat)
I started the novels after the video lol, it’s crazyyy
The wall arc bruh
Brooooo!
7 months after this comment and where the the war arc has begun in the webcomic but dam cant wait to see uto vs arthur in the webcomic its coming soon
I just finished the webcomic so far. We on the war arc now. I lost it when Arthur came bck and was about to fuck everyone up from not letting him leave. It’s about to go Dwn Next ch. them ships coming and I’m here for all the bs!!
I swear if a studio like Ufotable or Mappa did Tbate it would be the greatest anime of all time
yh fr like if they treat it like mushoku tensei, with the animation music and everything, itll go crazyyy
@@NovaLance Yeah since s1 would probably be his childhood and sht and art in elenoir kingdom it wouldn't catch attention by plot alone, like tower of god some people underrate it because what the anime has adapted so far is just the prologue, but it would def become very popular by the time Arthur vs Lucas got animated
Lol yeah but there’s definitely a way they can make the first season interesting. Like remember scenes with the bandits and that stuff.
Just gotta cross my fingers lol
@@NovaLance I chuckled because you mentioned the scenes with the bandits and then fingers and i instantly thought of the moment Art saved Tess in the forest when he cut off one guy's fingers with his first dash
Lmaooo, that was sick and a pretty nice coincidence on my part 😂
As a person that has read the light novel, the author is amazing at writing. every single chapter that he writes gets better and better and he keeps improving his writing. At times it can feel like im right there in the world with them. Its honestly so amazing nothing compares to it.
I completely agree. Reading the novels has been some of the best times Ive had
frfr it goes form good writer in volume 1-2 to great writer in 3-5 to amazing writer in 6 to incredible writer in 7(read the last few chapters of 7, heartbreaking but so good) to what the hell is this shit its so fucking good in 8-9 and 10 is literally almost perfect, you can feel it getting better. I can't even imagine how good tbate would be if it was rewritten now.
personally as someone who was read both lns and webtoon i think tbate is miles ahead.
TBATE LN actually is nuts
Man I read both the manhwas as my first one ever was solo leveling and the second one was tbate I loved both of them reread multiple times. Never started light novel as I want to see it visually.
For the longest time I couldn't choose between either as solo leveling's impression as the gateway that made me discovery new form of entertainment I completely fell in love with players a major role.on other side tbate was the perfect I mean the perfect fantasy story for me it resonated for me (as from my childhood I was always in love with fantasy genre I used to read fantasy novels all the time )and tbate culminated into perfection .so to me it was equal till now but
After couple years and since the manhwa has also finished now looking at in retrospect I am not that hyped up as I used to be now ,I like it love it but I have screamed enough about it at this point so with a "unbiased" outlook tbate surpasses solo leveling in almost everything,but my one flaw in both the series is that in solo leveling it for me felt abrupt in ending and for tbate turtle should have relaxed on the sufferings Arthur was subjected to and would have been better for me if the dark and grim stuff was reduced little,still if by the end of ln the story had a happy ending I am more than Happy
I feel I can relate to this. Solo leveling is the perfect entry way to webcomics. I started and dropped TBATE a few times because of how slow the start was. And then I went on to read solo leveling. Then I saw one picture of Arthur controlling four elements and that 1 picture made me push through the first 10 chapters of TBATE and then I started to get into it.
I do think that Arthur might have a happy ending BUT, it’s not looking very likely lmao
@@NovaLancecool 👍I had a similar experience with tower of god as I have started reading the chp0 multiple times like 10-15+but for some reason I couldn't push through more than 2 yrs I even had all the chps downloaded too but I couldn't start felt like a big thing to start but in an unexpected way without expecting anything I started it a month back and I finished in a week .
Let's hope Arthur is happy at the end and also the volumes goes on on without abrupt ending
It gets even better when I’m introduced
Love your name man 😂
TBATE is so unbelievably great! I started out with the webcomic when they were still releasing new chapters (they’ll be on hiatus for at least another year so sorry folks) I fucking devoured books 6-9 the webcomic leaves off at book 5 or 6 ish. I forced myself to forget about the series for months on end then book 10 dropped and I’ve finished my second read through it. Now I’m reading ahead on Tapas. Without spoiling, the story keeps getting better (book 5 not withstanding). Books 7, & 9, have huge climaxes in them and book 10 has an amazing emotional climax at the very end. So if you’re joining us now I’d say you’ll have plenty of time to be hooked reading through the webcomic and novels and getting caught up and then book 11 will drop and based on what I’ve read of it so far, it’ll blow your socks off.
I'm on book 5 now. Having an amazing time so far👍
TBATE is better by a landslide. turtle Me is a growing genius.
He really is. Wish more people read it
@@NovaLance I do too.
Tbate might be my favorite thing I’ve ever read
Yaaaas! Tbate is very good so far. I finished manga, now reading novel (300 chapters in) story is on another tier than solo leveling. If it ever gets animated, it would easily land in my top 5 animes no doubt
Oof... Well i haven't yet finished TBATE but for now I think it's better then solo leveling. I got like 100 chapters in and it's my first day of reading. And it even already made me cry at one point which solo leveling only managed to do at the end. And TBATE made me laugh and get hyped way more times. Still love solo leveling tho
Lol I completely get that feeling . You’ll be caught up soon and the novel will start calling you
@@NovaLance finished the manhua in 2 day's, i didn't start the novel yet tho. Also what kind of drugs are sprinkled on it to make a dyslexic person forgot the tiredness and finish it so quickly! ...sorry solo leveling you were great, but DANG
Lmaoo I’m glad you enjoyed it 😂😂, I think you might enjoy the novel more now that you have images of most people already in your head too
yall should read the novel if you think tbate is good from just the comic..
Man i was crying while reading the LN. This shit never happened for me before, crying while reading a book, no images, no actors to make the scenes sadder, just words were enough to make me cry. Atm i cant find anything that comes closer to tbate in form of story progression and the personages development.
Im biased rn cause im too invested into the story
Ahhh man I feel you. Which part made you tear up
@@NovaLance a lot tbh. His first reunion with his family after escorting Tess, his second reunion with his family, when he told his parents about his past life
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When Rey died, i cried the whole time, when he saw his dad corpse, when being consoled by Virion and he was about to make out with Tess i was screaming "Dont do it, its not the time". Just finished today volume 7 so i dont know about future events
Ahhh okay okay the rey one got me so bad. I was listening to the audio book and it was phenomenal. When he met Tess after and they both had their own issues was just sad af.
Ohhhhh okay okay book 8 and 9 are really good. Depending on how you see the story. But I haven’t read the latest book yet
Based just on the comics Solo Leveling is better but if you account for the novel easily tbate it just gets so much better later in the story
Im just finished light novel book 7 good god its amazing. And flat out a travesty this series doesbt have a serious anime behind it this story is too good to not be told
Glad whenever I hear someone enjoying it
Best manhwa/novel into my life
Yeah definitely
@@abhishek.bhandarii not trying to start a fight, but there is no way SL is better than TBATE. All the other characters of SL aside from the MC is discarded or forgotten lmao. (Except the FL I guess, but she didn't really made such a great impact). But, I guess it all comes down to personal preference.
tbate got me to read an actual book for the first time in years
Probably the only webcomic/manhwa/manga where I have read 80% of the dialogue
Bruhhhh both of them is god like manwha bro 😭😭 Hope that Tbate gets all his chapters turn into comics even it takes a long time and I hope Cecilia leaves Tessia body plsss and at solo leveling all of the chapter of it is so fire dude even the new one today so cool and I'm so lucky it my Birthday today hahahah
Happy birthday dude 🙏🏾 and yeah It’ll take a long time but I’m sure they’ll adapt it all
@@NovaLance Thank you dude and I hope that solo leveling never ends Shadow Monarch for the win hahahah Cha X Jin woo only shipppp
TBATE! Not even a competition. Read the novel!!!
Lol relax
If u have read the Light novel than something i like is that they actually made a GOOD war arc. Like its more realistic with how it isnt just Arrhur doing every sing major battle but there are others also fighting and doing their best, also how there is actual death. R.I.P my boi Reynolds
The king that got reincarnated into a land of magic and got dragon abilitys.
😂😂
I love TBATE
Solo Levelling has a special place in my heart too, however TBATE has romance, a school setting for magic users, progression of time as MC ages, kingdoms each with their royalty (races of humans, elves and dwarves), families known for their reputable mages, more emotions in terms of real life emotions from characters, which Solo Levelling doesn't have but are a great addition to a satisfying read.
Also although cool, Solo Levelling MC was a bit too emotionless and boring, yeh he showed anger, when fellow adventurers were hurt or a face of struggling whilst fighting an enemy or sadness when it came to his family, but that was it and no other normal emotions were given to the MC.
Only 2 things TBATE did wrong was:
They never introduced the strong families, explored them or gave them any lime light. Which would've made it even better, this is usually done in chinese martial arts manhua's to show the tier system of the different families. They could have shown other people that adventure and and are known famously for their powerful feats, but this isn't done.
Also there are too many weak people in TBATE imo, the base level of mages should be a bit higher.
I'll give the example of a time when high ranking adventures were struggling just because there were too many E class monsters.
TBATE still needs to get to it's war arc in the webtoon/manhwa.
All in all I would rank TBATE higher!
That’s honestly a very vivid description of the differences between the two. I will say tho that I finished solo leveling in like 2 days because it just doesn’t let you put it down. But when you finish, you realize the shallow aspects
TBATE however took a while for me to like. The only reason I started was because of that picture that shows Arthur controlling all the elements (that scene was never drawn and the Arthur in the story didn’t look like that one 😅) but it was like clickbait that hooked me lol
Yeah there are some aspects that I wish would’ve fleshed out others. Like I wouldn’t mind good chunks of the story making us follow people who have no idea who Arthur is and don’t meet him. That helps build up the world but everything is better in hindsight
its my favorite manhwa at the moment
i think mine too
Read novel then it will become your fav. Novel too. Tbate is just awesome
@@knightsdragon2900 no clue where to lol
Where do you read
I feel you my boy
I read both the webtoon and the novel for both stories and like, TBATE completly destroys solo leveling and almost every other story ever created, fuck shakespear, Turtleme is the goat
If you want another Isekai GOLD that doesn't revolve around some writer harem fantasy: Ascendance of a Bookworm is absolutely fantastic!
"The real man", if you're in for depth and complex writing then you will like this...i studied a bit of economics and politics and i am not confident i understood everything
solo leveling is op and hype
tbate is hype wholesome, tragedy like everything but wayy too good
You could use better ways to sell this tho. It's a story that doesn't reinvent the wheel. It's a basic concept but the story telling and world building is exquisite. That's what carries this novel. You don't need to reinvent the wheel, just keep the storyline consistent, don't let the quality of the writing drop. That's all. That is why TBATE is soo good.
I agree with that. The video was made very early on in my reading so it’s do for a remake now that I’ve read the novel
Also not sure if you deleted the other comment or not, but I can’t read it
Beginning after end, so good my favorite
"So far we only know of 3 places and 3 locations"
"3 RACES and a few locations" the text is even on screen saying "3 races". 😶
@@NovaLance well I just quoted it cause it wasn't really true also the video is good i just wish you had read the novel cause the video would have way more and better explaining and info
The novels are just god tier
better than manwha??
@@user-dx7lt6yj4e yes way better
@@user-dx7lt6yj4e Imma be honest I'm reading the Light Novel now it's so good, like everything that could just be drawn is explained in detail using such elegant language so for me the Light Novel is better, also when Arthur got arrested he touched Array's butt by an accident but they skipped that in the comic
Lol what book did he get arrested in? 😂
@@NovaLance well his arrest is already adapted, i think it's on the edge of book 4 and 5
I think tbate is better because the main c is actually a person with struggles in sl the main is just too op that is his character trait
I feel the Manhwa missed a lot on jin woo’s development. But Arthur is more developed for sure
@@NovaLance and still later I un the Ln Arthur suffers and is tested physically and mentally a lot of times. He actually has a few moral dilemmas and some regular and emotional thoughts that I can actuallysympathize with. All in all he actually has character traits.
This was pretty long
Ofcourse Tbate! Its novel version is so good
💯
Turtle Me is sometimes very eloquent with his writing.
pure facts
I just downloaded the light novels and I have the manhua bookmarked that and solo leveling. I'm always looking for good things to read and I've heard about those two in the past 6 months or so.
Solo leveling Manhwa will be insanely fast for you to get through just coz of the nature of it. TBATE does start slow but if it hooks you, you’ll love it
@@NovaLance I love that it's a lot My very first books as a kid was Harry Potter so the denser of the story the more happy I will be. It's weird because I thought about them like 6 months ago but now that solo leveling is getting an anime I feel like I should expose myself to these things first so that I have a point of comparison.
I love the Harry Potter books as well. And yeah the more you read the better you can appreciate some of these I think. You’re in for a treat
@@NovaLance I finished all the solo leveling novels via audiobook and now I'm on book 6 of tbae. When I finish I will go to the manwhas
I like the usage of FE3H bgm hahah
That game has been the lifeblood of all my videos lol
I like solo leveling better but it's probably only got 30 more chapters before it's gone through the entire light novel. So after that the beginning after the end will be my main.
Yeah solo leveling seems to be in the final war but idk how far the tbate novels are. Are you reading the novels for TBATE? I just started book 4
@@NovaLance I was reading the books, but I do like the comic better than the novel just because I'm more of a visually inclined person. The novels are really good though.
Same lol. The season 4 for TBATE ended and won’t come back for a few months so I’m reading book 4, I’m almost done with that. I’m glad I have an idea of how they look already
sl is not objectively better u just have a shit sense of taste
I suggest Second Life Ranker. I feel like it is the only manhwa that holds a candle to Solo Leveling and TBATE. It's engaging, the character isn't OP at the beginning, but he's smart, has experience with life and death scenarios, and has knowledge of things no one else does, thanks to his brother. And as the story goes forward, it just keeps getting better and better.
Ive been looking for one to read and just started omniscient reader so I’ll try that one soon
@NovaLance That one's pretty good, too.
"That time I as the king of a country got Reincarnated in a magic fantasy world with the ability to make every princess into me"
I honestly can't tell if your being sarcastic.
4 races now if you count asura race as the whole without including pantheon and dragon and stuff.
Yeah definitely more than 3 now. Video needs to be updated since a lot has changed
have u ever thought of trying omniscient readers view point or i am not that kind of talent both are prettyyyyyyyyyy good
I caught up to ORV. It’s amazing.
Never heard of the other one tho
Both are my favourite, I can’t compare
That’s fair
Read both solo leveling and reading tbate. Personally I think Tbate is better. Really liked solo leveling. One other to add to this list is second life ranker. It is awesome
I’ve heard about that too. Where would you rank that if you compared to TBATE and solo leveling
@@NovaLance I would put it just below solo leveling. It is as good as solo leveling but the writing is not as detailed. I read mostly light novels. I like the comics but I feel like they lack all of the detail from the books/light novels. Good stuff by the way. Keep it up, your content is great 👍
Thanks I appreciate it. And yeah I started TBATE with the comic but reading the light novel is a different beast for my mind coz turtle me doesn’t even hesitate to describe heat coming from food
I am caught up with webnovel of TBATE and its far better than solo levelling.
I really think you would like a series called Nano Machine the mc is cold hearted and really likable
I forgot I had this on my list to read lol. I’ll check it out for sure
Best manhwa I got hooked from the first ch...
haha
@@NovaLance got any manhwa.. Which is a must read..??
Hey I have been reading one called “a returners magic should be special “
It’s very very good
@@NovaLance caught up to recent chapters.. It's really gud... Dude did u read "the legend of the northern blade" It's soo f*king gud.
No I haven’t read that, I’m gonna add it to my list haha thanks
well I think that right now at this point in time solo leveling is better, but if tbate follows the light novels correctly then I'll have to say tbate is better
Yeah, well for one the new season for the TBATE comic is looking different, so i can only hope
solo leveling is not better, you have a shit sense of taste
Im so sad read it all in one day and now 1 week per chapter :(
😂😂 I guess it’s time for the novel
Solo Leveling would probably do better for an anime selling point but if you stick with TBATE and read the novel you would see how better it is, how it keeps getting better, it feels like you seeing the author getting better with time. TBATE starts slow, generic and as nothing surprising nor new but as time goes on the author find the way to evolve and improve the story.
When you mentioned anime i thought this comment was on the TBATE anime video I did 😂 but yeah every point you made here is true
as much as i hate to say it i have to give that to Tbate. Tbate story telling, power system, magic system, story building and characters are on a whole another level than solo leveling. Not that solo leveling is bad by any means its just when i looked at it back solo leveling felt pretty underwelming compared to Tbate deffinetly read both whoever didnt do so up to now, both are worth reading and worth your time.
I understand that, it’s hard for me to say which is better coz I like them both so much, but TBATE just has more depth
@@NovaLance exacly, couldnt have said it better.
I’ve read both series and live both but TBATE> . Also you should give Nano machine and the legend of the northern blade a read
How good is northern blade would say? It’s been recommended alot
@@NovaLance I think it’s a 9/10 as I really like the story set up and how the Mc portrays himself to everyone else, I also really like the sword fights and it feels so raw and emotional during some scenes. You should definitely check it out.
I’ve been scared to check out good stories coz it’ll fill my mind haha
But it’s next on the Manhwa list for sure
And damn, 9/10 is high lol
Lmao the spongebob meme
Tbate is prob the best manga that currently exists. Art wize nothing comes close.
Hmm I would argue story wise yes, but the weakest part is the art imo
I am waiting for Chapter 176 to release..
Same bro same
@@NovaLance Bro I couldn't wait so I started Light Novel From Volume 6.. this is my first time reading a Light Novel.. It is Interesting.
@@proxima8631 tell me how it went, I just finished the comic (ch:175) and I wanna continue but I find it really hard to read novels
The audiobook is amazing. That’s how I sometimes get through them when I don’t wanna read
@@replication8374 yesh you can listen to the audio book of it's volumes (start from vol 6 manga is until vol 5)
The audiobook TBATE
TBATE is good one
Read the light novel anything you read now well be so much more insane when you get to end book 4 end book 5
Im on book 6 now lol
Can anyone tell me where to read tbate? I read the first 6 episodes of the webcomic on Tapas but you need some kind of currency to progress into the series
You can read the comic on mangapill dot com
@@NovaLance thank you so much ❤
The beginning after end
I read bolth and then the novels and bro im sorry but tbate is on another level
i'm with you on that
This got a webcomic? I just recently recently read the first volume of the lightnovel. From what i've seen just now, it is kinda difficult to compare the two. Solo leveling is happening within such a short time frame, a few months, a year, maybe. Arthur starts out as a newborn. Not really novel to be honest. Both concepts are already quite worn. I would have wished for a little more Sylvia in the the first volume, but that wish will remain unfulfilled, i guess. I liked it, but it didn't blow my mind. Ascendance of a bookworm is still my fav lightnovel series.
I might start reading the light novel soon as well. The author said in the webcomic he made some changes that he couldn’t in the original.
Yeah the Sylvia plot line was a lost gem.
Might need to read tHat bookworm one
@@NovaLance you are really gonna like the line:,,downforce"
Was this against Lucas the vitra came to the school? It sounds familiar
@@NovaLance yes it is.He said it right before smashing Lucas's penis out of existence.
Actually, it is quite novel that the Arthur's original world is another, alternate fantasy world. Arthur's original world would fit as the fantasy world of reincarnation in another series. Even mushoku tensei just took a random neet from modern day Japan.
I am not saying the TBATE is better,i just prefer the TBATE
Arthur himself 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Yeah I actually can’t decide lol
The big man
now read the novel and get sad
Where can I read it
Can you explain Arthur’s abilities
Um spoiler alert? I got everything for you, as a mage, he was a quadra (4) elemental mage who eventually reached white core, had a decent mastery in most elements, and later on started relying on ice and lightning deviant magic since they were big dmg aoes which was later on fixed when he took like a 2 months break from being a (...... ) to basically every day spar against 4 masters of each elements which got him overall better everything and he got smarter with the elements as well, like using wind magic to actually slow down his opponents fist or making vacuums instead of just using it to be faster while running. Then besides Sylvie, he's got Sylvias beast will where he can separate himself and others if he wants to from the flow of time ( basically time stop) which would always take a massive toll on his body no matter how much he'd train as itime aether path(?) i forgot the name isnt what his body is supposed to do its like trying to breathe underwater for humans ig and second phase aka realmheart that covers his body in runes and to make a braindead translation gives him a nice powerup and letting him see mana particles as well as aether particles while letting him control mana in a way superior way. He also had figured out burst step on his own which was basically by knowing anatomy forcing specific muscles in his leg to be triggered, but he couldnt really use it cause his human body was too weak and his muscles & ligaments would get torn. After the end of Vol 7 and with the start of Volume 8, Art awakens in alacryan relictomb and uhh, well firstly, Regis ( a sentient weapon) which was born from the acclorite that W.K forced into arts palm in his training in epotheus, was born tho incomplete and was at that time a will o wisp thingy that wasnt really tangible( now his second form is a wolf with horns and flame mane kinda), he could and still can go into arthus body, firstly tho, Art created an aether core after his mana core was shattered and now with the body of an asura (thanks to sylv ): ..... ), so with the body of a deity + aether augmentation, while not being able to manipulate/see/ or sense mana at all, he has regeneration as long as theres aether in his body to be burned in order to heal him, a strength that already in his first relictomb ascend surpasses his white core strength alone, and durability. His speed isnt nearly as good as before now tho, which is sad but with him collecting all the godrunes, besides Destruction Rune (carried by regis because art would lose his sanity when using it and had to stab himself in the thigh to not go insane) that is manifested as a purple flame because Destruction isnt really a thing that has a look, so the rune took on what would Arthur imagine as destruction, and then the speed itself was kinda fixed with Godstep Rune which is a >>>>> version of Burst Step which is so fast it basically takes Arthur to a predetermined place almost like a wormhole, then he got the avoas requiem rune which can bring things back to life ( not people) and an extra decently sized dimensional storage rune ( which is useful cause he cant use the rings that mages use to store small stuff in them because he doesnt have any mana). Plus a rune that lets him create claws with aether / and now i think he can make a sword with it(?), before that he also had or still has idk a dagger that can be augmented with aether without shattering like almost every other weapon would, cause he sadly lost his dawns ballad which was already dulled with melted tip after his fight against jagrette( his first retainer fight) but still used it till it was shattered by cadell ( scythe, the one who took Sylvia at the start of tbate), as the weapon was still while being basically destroyed better than any sword a non asura could forge. Hope you don't mind it being a little longer cause its the entire thing 🙂🙂🙂
I’d say for manwha for me it goes 1tbate 2 tower of god 3 solo leveling
Tower of god sets up a lot of mystery and seeds of a larger world in season 1 then season 2 goes off
Does anyone know when Vol 10 of the audio book will release?
Sorry not sure
should do another one of these, but further on. because where the novel is, as of today (2/10) is CRAZY
you didnt mention sylvie :(
well i guess that would go into spoilers huh
yeah didnt want to risk it
Ayo which light novel chapter is the time arthur's friend(the guy with glasses who got kidnapped) comes back????
Can’t remember atm
Quick question have u read tower of god ? Wondering whether I should read it
I started but I dropped coz the art in the parts I was reading was pretty messy.
I have heard great things about tho, that the world building can match onepiece but idk, I’ll try again later
Answer to the first question : TBATE NO F****ING DOUBT
Lol
if ur looking for another good thing to read, read omniscient reader plus the light novel is just as dark
Thanks it’s on my list of Manhwa to read lol, I’ve only heard good things about it
rn im reading manwha or webtoon or the online manga or whatever but should i read LN instead i like seeing pictures but if the lightnovel is alot better i will read it
I will say it’s nicer to start with the webcomic and then when you catch up you read the LN.
That way you have the characters in your mind lol
@@NovaLance ty but Webcomic is ongoing tho
@@NovaLance and are there pictures in the LN
Yeah it is, but where they’ve reached now is so hype that waiting weekly might annoy you 😂
At the time when I caught up they took a break for like 3 months so it was easy to move to the LN
@@NovaLance alr
I love tbate, but the recent volumes release, I felt like they are stretching the story. there are some uncecesarry POV chapters and Relic Tombs stage.
I’m sorry but solo has nothing on tbate especially where we’re at in the LN
That’s what seems to be the general consensus
damn reincarnation
Spoiler 2:14 technically he is strongest dna wise because he’s decedents of ancient Mage’s(which is strongest race)
Point was that even with how OP he is, he’s not shown as stronger than everyone like with other shows
Villains: *shows Lucas*
Ln readers: heh
Lmao this was before downforce 😂
@@NovaLance I can see that. All the people saying the story is just beginning are totally right. In the next few weeks one of my favorite scenes is coming in the manhwa so for once I am also excited for the manhwa chapter.
Haha the return of the king huh
I really hope they nail that entrance in the tomb
@@NovaLance yes! I'm so excited for that scene!
Same lol. This is a pseudo version I made with commissioned fanart th-cam.com/video/anvrXTYItu0/w-d-xo.html
Where can you read this? I’ve looked all over and can’t find it on any manwha or webtoon apps.
Check tapas website or like manga websites
tbates story (so far) is better in my opinion but designs and fights have to go to solo leveling cause tbate is insanely good also
I wouldnt say op if you’ve read the light novel💀
Lol that’s the first time I’ve heard that
Tbate no doubt
TBATE is several times better than Solo Leveling. Period.
This is just mushoku tensei without the perverted protagonist.
Bare bones
Tbate is infinitely better then Solo leveling lol
read it AND CAUGHT UP ITS GOOOOOOOD SOOOO GOOD YALL SHOULD READ 4 CUT HERO. THATS A BANGER EVEN BETTER THAN TBATE
4 cut hero? Bet I’ll add it to the list. You sure it’s better? Lol
@@NovaLance I've read it, its not better, its a decent story, but i feel like this man only caught up the comic of tbate, the novel is unparalled in peakness.
Tbate negs solo leveling
Lmao. Man said it like a death battle
Bro I badly need y'all yo tell me on what volume/novel should I start after reading chap. 175 on the webtoon.😭
should be around chapter 138 in volume 5 and on tapas its episode 371
tower of got and god of highschool
TBATE
But I mean it's two different type of play styles
Tbate!!!!!!!💞💞
Thanks but where can I read free
Manga pill
This gets really dark
pls send me a link,idk how to read the manhwa of the beginning after the end
Hey you can read it on mangapill.com
LN is addicting
Fr, I just started book 7 and man I can’t stop
one day i finished tbate manhwa but im interested in next story
so i ended up reading a LN for the very first time and oh my fucking god the LN is sooooo goooood
FR bro i was expecting it to be boring because there is no illustrations but not at all its so fun reading it
also when will regis came into the manhwa i wanna see people reaction after seeing this very cultured wolf
Haha the novel is fckin sick man. Haven’t met Regis yet, but I’ve seen that volume cover with the wolves
i will say that solo leveling's build up for the last war was weak but they have shown mc very well , not statisfied with hte ending tho .
on the other hand TBATE is a piece of art i have read 145 ch by now at it kills hard i wish i could read novel tho as i would have ended it :(
Yeah solo leveling really rushed the end. It messed it up fr.
You don’t know where to read the novel?
the beginning after the end is a mahwa
Man Check the pinned comment. I’m tired of both of you guys who always want to correct people.