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    The end of the world - when will it move from the realm of science fiction and become an apocalyptic reality? Nick Bostrom warns that the collapse of our civilization can happen at any time. In GREAT MINDS, he explains his reasoning behind this bleak outlook, sharing with us his vast knowledge in mathematics, physics, and superintelligence.
    Thanks to our seemingly limitless ability to invent things that benefit us, humanity lives in a high-tech advanced civilization. However, what if one of those inventions has the power to destroy humanity? What if there's no governing structure to control it? Dr. Bostrom says that humanity will cause its own demise. Our collapse could come from a future technological achievement, like advanced artificial intelligence.
    Everyday our society becomes a better place for us to live, yet because of this, we may be heading toward our own extinction. Can we prevent this? And what does this have to do with the existence of alien life forms? Do they exist? Or did they exist but drive themselves to extinction? Or maybe it’s possible we just live in a simulation? Professor Nick Bostrom takes us through all these questions of our existence and the future of humanity in his lecture series on GREAT MINDS.
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  • @Anubis___88
    @Anubis___88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The sound FX make it seem like I'm watching a children TV show

    • @lsb8597
      @lsb8597 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Horrible music fir how interesting he is speaking. So hard to watch…

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get over it. Or, make better content.

    • @Anubis___88
      @Anubis___88 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stevechance150Shhh Steve.

    • @AntiWarVet
      @AntiWarVet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nick Bostrom is the Dennis Leary of Philosophie. Philip K Dick was decades ahead.

    • @gangstaboy9387
      @gangstaboy9387 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao very true

  • @erickmagana353
    @erickmagana353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Oh, I can't wait for the panopticon surveillance mono state. Such a great idea 💡 Not terrifying at all. Thanks Nick!

    • @skepticaltaco
      @skepticaltaco 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      survival > extinction

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's already happening big pimping. They are watching the whole entire world and documenting it and having an ai listen in. Everyone that has a phone they are listening in and documenting your interactions with an AI and how they can manipulate you all with that information because as we all know we are controlled by our surroundings. So if you control our surroundings you can control us. Anyway it won't get to that because the simulation will end soon. You really think the sim people would let that happen?

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The panoptigon is your phone silly

    • @hystericheretic7678
      @hystericheretic7678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You thought it ended at listening to you for advertisements? Oh silly

    • @johnheilman818
      @johnheilman818 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Freedom>safety.
      Safety>Free access to easy power
      Maybe if you want to know how to do things that have dual use of mass destruction, then maybe you should be required to trade it by agreeing with less freedom/privacy.

  • @DarkSkay
    @DarkSkay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The enslaved world hypothesis: sacrificing dignity and freedom to a totalitarian world government will actually increase existential risks, not decrease them.

    • @stevechance150
      @stevechance150 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why don't you ask Bezos if you can live/hide in his underground bunker? My bet is that he says "No", or he says "You are going to be my servant and have no rights". Given that choice and the world government choice, I think the world government "might" turn out ok, whereas today, RIGHT NOW, one of Jeff Bezos's warehouse workers are peeing in a drinking bottle, because Jeff won't give them adequate bathroom breaks.

    • @vapormissile
      @vapormissile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. Ranch hypothesis.

  • @punchtalestudio
    @punchtalestudio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This video is sponsored by the WEF. Thanks for watching. Please share

    • @OsvaldoBayerista
      @OsvaldoBayerista 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And WEF is sponsored by TH-cam, Coca Cola, and all the shit you use everyday. The WEF is just a think tank of capitalism, it serves to reduce taxes to the rich, same as thousands of other organizations that keep capitalism working in that way.

    • @kikiryki
      @kikiryki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course, my horse, what were you thinking

  • @issuesshop
    @issuesshop 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i am extremely intrigued by this theory but at the same time i am extremely disturbed that the only way to "stabilize civilization" presented is to institute two things: global surveillance and global coordination. i am just diving into all of this, but i do recall the seattle wto "riots" (perhaps in the 90s?), which was a defining event for me as an "activist" and made me see that "globalization" is inevitably not the best route. to be continued, i am loving this journey, thank you for your insight.

  • @JamesEdwardTracy
    @JamesEdwardTracy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's incredibly ironic that I ran across this video. I have a device that I think would control gravity in such a way that it would be the worst weapon of mass destruction. If I ever constructed it, there would have to be many safety catches in place. But what of the safety issues I can't think of?
    The really odd and funny thing is at my age now, which is 67 years old, I have for some time now hesitated in pursuing this device even though it would give us unlimited clean energy and open a doorway to the stars for travel.
    Always in the back of my mind is the thought that it could be used in a disastrous way or perhaps even through accident end us all. It could easily operate in unexpected and unintended ways, in the same way that the atomic bomb physicists were afraid the atmosphere would catch fire.
    For this reason I continue to seem to drag my feet. Although one wonders how long it'll be before someone else comes up with the same idea. This device is laughably simple in concept, but potentially could be far more dangerous than a nuclear bomb by far. It could easily be a planet killer. It could be built in someone's garage using everyday items.
    So I guess I choose not to reach into the urn for fear that I'm right, and find myself holding that black ball of death.
    At times though, I am tempted to pursue it. I would become fabulously wealthy and lauded from the tops of mountains and be awarded the greatest status of anyone who ever lived as the savior for all our problems or at least a great many of them.
    It's a good thing I'm on the introverted side.

    • @malcolmgibb7406
      @malcolmgibb7406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is that you on the left or the right in your profile pic?

    • @JamesEdwardTracy
      @JamesEdwardTracy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@malcolmgibb7406
      I'm the guy on the left although that's a very old picture.

    • @DianaTheWarrior
      @DianaTheWarrior 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it's true what you said then I'd advise you to pursue it while you have the option to profit from it, because if the principle behind it is as laughably simple as you said (or even if it were not that simple at all), it's pretty much guaranteed to be found out by AI soon anyway.

    • @JamesEdwardTracy
      @JamesEdwardTracy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DianaTheWarrior
      If AI, then I'm not responsible is my take. I had to turn down the north Koreans a long time ago in fact. Technology is such an asymmetrical sword in this case, it truly is worrisome.

  • @charlytaylor1748
    @charlytaylor1748 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That's it. I'm off to a monastery in a secret location

  • @StephenPhantom
    @StephenPhantom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anarchism ( 4 mins ) is without leaders ( not without order ) what you mean to say is chaos, people often use these words as an interchangeable thing but incorrectly, and as an analysis on systems and theories that's kind of unforgivable, think Linux and the internet as it was originally conceived, as an example of a highly organised ( but decentralised ) form of government of things that aren't hierarchic in construction. That said, its a good hypothesis ( without the confusing language ) in conclusion anarchism makes the world more stable and less vulnerable. In face anarchism is very much a 'white' ball.

    • @user-rt6zc2pi6y
      @user-rt6zc2pi6y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is in people's nature to create laws, anarchy can never exist in such a degree, and even if it does it will exhaust itself and people that will try to be agricultural again will form armys to fight the thieves etc things happened before will happen again...

  • @th3ist
    @th3ist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The start of Civilization is usually defined as the rise of agriculture and animal husbandry (not industrial farming). Bostrom seems to be defining it as modern civilization.

  • @Cghost-fh4hf
    @Cghost-fh4hf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The treatment mr Bostrom proposes is much worse than the ailmant. It is better to have the risk of collapse than his panopticon.

    • @DarkSkay
      @DarkSkay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless one finds the BDSM-like fantasy of total submission exciting.
      Existential risks would increase, if transforming the world into a kind of AI-controlled pet farm or other totalitarian dystopia.

  • @GalacticTechTrails
    @GalacticTechTrails 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How is this video not at a billion views in 1 day?

  • @jorgegomez524
    @jorgegomez524 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “The process of extraction balls”.. that pretty much summarizes it

  • @ajnicolai7002
    @ajnicolai7002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The black ball? Was applying safety standards from traditional vaccins, on the novel mRNA injections. Standards related to the amount of e.g. DNA material, graphene, important error was excluding the lipid coating part.

  • @AndPennyThought
    @AndPennyThought 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I definitely feel similar to some degree; but isn't this vulnerable world hypothesis logically the same as Pascal's Wager?

    • @douglashurd4356
      @douglashurd4356 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then it turns out that you bet on the wrong god and the Zoroastrians were right all along.

  • @govindagovindaji4662
    @govindagovindaji4662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    02:56 [not meant as snark]: Other than a lot of hurt people's hurt feelings, a million temporarily devastated families, some PTSD, and some outfits scrambling to replace crucial workers, I do not foresee how the loss of just 1 billion people out of 8.5 billion is civilizational collapse. We were there just a few years ago. Would we even notice it~?

  • @lewisbowes4921
    @lewisbowes4921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Appreciate sharing this, but I think this video serves as an example of how not to edit a talk. Extremely distracting random sound effects.

  • @benlamprecht6414
    @benlamprecht6414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for an excellent talk

  • @rozkek6697
    @rozkek6697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good video and informative video but the choice of music is truly awful💀

    • @WeSaveWe
      @WeSaveWe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂 it totally cheapens it

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    might be ways to overcome vulnerable world? humanity develop consciousness of time to plan for future survival and progress?

  • @JuraKosednar
    @JuraKosednar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we map it out? I have some good ideas...

  • @brandoovalle5678
    @brandoovalle5678 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tienes razon vivimos en una simulacion y el programa sora es literal la vida real que locura tremenda ai programa sora

  • @vulturom
    @vulturom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah i was thinking of this when i was 12yo

  • @th3ist
    @th3ist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the 1 billion were from the african region, i dont think civilization would end. Bostrom has crafted a western centric hypothesis

  • @os2171
    @os2171 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So… he Bostrom didn’t mentioned AI as a black ball. But it mentioned as part of a solution to the installation of a totalitarian state. 20 yeas ago he ringed the bell on AI super intelligence… a plausible hypothesis is that he is already working for the AI. I don’t know this idea is even worse than the problem it solves

  • @garrettbewsy144
    @garrettbewsy144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yo mix these sound effects better. i was super into the info you were providing but legit looking this hypothesis on a different channel without the effects lol

  • @billcourtney3894
    @billcourtney3894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The internal combustion engine deployed over 2 billion times caused the atmospheric CO2 to spike. Tragically, this has triggered a methane runaway. Black ball is the gasoline engine.

    • @IHateThisHandleSystem
      @IHateThisHandleSystem 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMFAO!!!

    • @billcourtney3894
      @billcourtney3894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Laugh all you want. You obviously unaware of the methane problem. @@IHateThisHandleSystem

  • @quinto3969
    @quinto3969 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is that the more white balls you do pull out, it will more anticipate the character of the black ball and hence possibly not engaged and foreseen. Because the more the white balls the more a cognitive fort you create towards the black ball??

  • @ktrethewey
    @ktrethewey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is too serious for silly effects.

  • @Daniel-Six
    @Daniel-Six 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Balls presentation!

  • @zeroonetime
    @zeroonetime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go Infinity Squared, TIMEISM = All the Scientific and philosophical hypothesis.
    T.E.N. d. uni-verse = 010 at once, Creation, Evolution to Entropy.
    Light and Dark.

  • @greggkroodsma8197
    @greggkroodsma8197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Albert Einstein borrowed Leo Szilard's idea and wrote a letter to the President of the United States to maybe get funding to construct something to make ports.

  • @calvingrondahl1011
    @calvingrondahl1011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nick Bostrom 🖖

  • @Nia-zq5jl
    @Nia-zq5jl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The list is pretty weird, or at least presented in a weird way.
    Okay, so the first point is “Nuclear Weapon”. It’s supposed to exemplify something powerful and civilisation ending I presume.

  • @MoritaJunichiro
    @MoritaJunichiro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you can take responsibility for the future of humanity, go for it. If you can't take responsibility for the future. . . 👻👈🏻

  • @teodorkrastev
    @teodorkrastev 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1. The technologies are not good or bad by themselves. The intended purpose could be good or bad but they can always be repurposed. What Bostrom effectively suggests is to stop technological progress or put a lid on the bowl on his terms and threw the key away.
    2. Even if we accept his hypothesis of white/black balls and try to prevent civilization destruction, I don't see any power now or in the near future with enough control to do that. On top of that we need to avoid the 1984 scenario, otherwise, what's the point?
    3. I'm not saying civilization Armageddon is not a real threat but addressing human rationality in order to find a solution is hopeless (pathetic even). I don't know any large-scale decision in history that have been made after rational deliberation, so that would be the first. I think the only way that we have some small chance is to go through some cataclysmic event that will change humanity's state of mind hopefully for the better.
    4. AGI may offer a radical rational power but for now that is pure speculation...

  • @klatapirata
    @klatapirata 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Panoptikon thing would cripple our societies mentally.

  • @punchmclightning5584
    @punchmclightning5584 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does use a urn as a metaphor of creation. That's a symbol of death.

  • @justinalexanderbrown
    @justinalexanderbrown 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beautiful a beautiful sphere🎉 holy and beautiful colours of Jesus Christ almighty salvation lord judge

  • @XOPOIIIO
    @XOPOIIIO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we should just stop technologies and gradually shift them back.

  • @williamvanleuven414
    @williamvanleuven414 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe it is nature itself that drew the black ball, by inventing man after 3,5 billion yrs.

  • @marvintalesman6306
    @marvintalesman6306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I cant help to think that this is a high tech intellectual propaganda towards Totalitarianism.

  • @deepbits7312
    @deepbits7312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh nooo and let's not play billiards anymore because there is a black ball on the table. Total surveillance would make this world worthless. I'd rather live in a dangerous but free world that will one day go boom.

  • @kikiryki
    @kikiryki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so we need a world government or an AI system to protect us from ourselves, that's the idea

  • @sven888
    @sven888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As an ex apartheid abolitionist and free Mandela supporter the google algorhythm guided me to "FREE NICK BOTSTROM" but to my dismay I found out he was never even in jail to begin with.

  • @placeswelive5388
    @placeswelive5388 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What's important here is that Nick Bostrom gets paid a full salary to sit around all day and either dream stuff up or pontificate about things that are apparent to anyone with half a brain.

  • @ilirllukaci5345
    @ilirllukaci5345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inklings.

  • @jespermeisel9799
    @jespermeisel9799 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comic Sans, really? :D

  • @A3Kr0n
    @A3Kr0n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or, we will keep going on business as usual until all of the easy resources are gone, our global society collapses down to a few illiterate survivor groups and they are never able to do this again. Enjoy what you have today like it's temporary.

  • @kubricksghost6058
    @kubricksghost6058 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So basically black swan

    • @SpaldingJason
      @SpaldingJason 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The key difference lies in their focus:
      Black Swan Theory is about understanding the nature and impact of unpredictable, rare events in various domains.
      Vulnerable World Hypothesis is a speculative concept that focuses on the existential risks posed by future technological developments.

  • @frankshaw4749
    @frankshaw4749 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont understand why we are discussing half the problem. There are plenty natural black balls that definitely exist ... comets, sun storms, viral evolution.

  • @rogerc7960
    @rogerc7960 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CRISPR biowar...

  • @charleswoodruff9013
    @charleswoodruff9013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The background music playing while the person is talking is incredibly annoying.

  • @EdT.-xt6yv
    @EdT.-xt6yv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:10 dasBALL ,,, ANTINATALISM?

  • @kirkwagner461
    @kirkwagner461 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There may be something out there in the dark. You can't say there isn't! Therefor the only, ONLY safe move is to not venture into the darkness.
    (Ie: stop researching, least we find a way to destroy ourselves.)
    BTW, I reject this.

  • @kolektivmozak238
    @kolektivmozak238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's difficult to fathom how anyone could advocate for such extensive preventive policing and extreme surveillance, given the clear civilizational concerns involved. The irony lies in the fact that, while advocating for a 'solution,' you're inadvertently introducing another unmentioned issue, akin to a hidden pitfall. You are pulling out another black ball buddy.

  • @deepbits7312
    @deepbits7312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's almost as stupid idea as "if there is no human, there is no problem".

  • @pl7537
    @pl7537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have personally advocated for globalism for years, but it's something that cannot be shared without risking being considered some kind of lizard. Unfortunately humans cannot be left alone, and the AI singularity will bring an interesting situation to the table if the only way to combat it is by being united. But no, it is much better to respect "multiculturalism" etc etc (and of course, the savage capitalism, nationalisms, our jealousy and egoism) than to just fucking act as a group of people worried by a common problem. Maybe it's too late and we just deserve what is coming.

  • @hermeschbird
    @hermeschbird 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BBB

  • @marcuslobstein3179
    @marcuslobstein3179 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dood is a hack

  • @IHateThisHandleSystem
    @IHateThisHandleSystem 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:25 "Hence, we still have wars and arms races".... What a load of crap! You are implying that if we did have a strong central worldwide government that war would cease, which is absolute nonsense.

  • @anypercentdeathless
    @anypercentdeathless 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most tortured analogies ever.

  • @lr937
    @lr937 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “We are still cavemen, but with bigger more destructive weapons, we haven’t made any progress “
    - Leon Trakker

  • @tomaaron6187
    @tomaaron6187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stopped listening. Not everyone’s first language is English. Couldn’t make out some words because the bizarre sound effects.

  • @spiritualawareness7736
    @spiritualawareness7736 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about a nuclear war huh that qualify as vulnerable world hypothesis?
    What about climate change?

  • @spiritualawareness7736
    @spiritualawareness7736 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The one thing that this man ignores is that many of the most advanced technological advances come from reversal technology from spacecrafts that have been recovered around the world