You too can have the best loudspeakers in the world
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- Speakers not audiophile enough? You can have the best loudspeakers in the world. Watch the video and find out how...
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You have just unlocked a stream of memories. Back in the mid 1970's I made a matched pair of stereo speakers bought from Wilmslow Audio. I fetched them myself. They were KEF kit 3s, three drive units. With help from a mate we built them in my Dads garage, and of course they were the best speakers in the world, and I have still got them!!
I’ve ordered drive units from wilmslow audio.
Eee, bah gum! I remember the Wilmslow Audio catalogue c.1977/78 - lusting over things i couldn't afford as a spotty teenager.
Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX
No, you can’t biamp or triamp them. Flawed design.
Yes! I have build a pair of TL's myself and a pair of horns (somewhat the opposite of TL's). Both pairs are whitout any doubt the best ever speakers built in their own specific qualities and still perform their magic in Amsterdam.
My speakers cost me $80,000 just to listen to Vinyl. Yes I'm insane😅
So spot on!
I'm still chasing to relive the sound that came from the Altec Lansing 12" woofers I built cabinets for that had horn tweeters with exposed crossover components that sat on top of the enclosures. Those speakers rocked all the houses I inhabited during my college years. I eventually sold them to a rock band, since they were too large to fit in my car when I left school. Now I'm thinking it was the memories of cranking tunes outside on big grass lawns with a keg of beer, a bushel of oysters, throwing the Frisbee with friends and smiling at the coeds in cut off shorts walking by that makes me think that no other speakers have sounded as good as those Altecs. In reality, I'm not chasing an improved sound, I'm chasing the youth of my past.
And our ears are getting worse.....lol
@@will7its Sadly, you've got that right! My hearing aids are my most expensive piece of audio gear I own. And a bird watching walk in the woods with my spouse proves she is the one with superior hearing. "Can you hear that high pitch call". "No, please give me the binoculars so I can try to look at the bird you can hear." She hears better than me, but I'm the one messing with audio gear. Go figure. lol
@@eddents The Irony of the audiophile is when you can finally afford quality, you can no longer hear it......😹
That's a tough one my friend. I think we're all kind of doing that at least in a way.
You too can have the best TH-cam channel in the world - yours
Thank you, I do my best. DM
HEAR! HEAR!
What you say is so true!
I've never owned "store bought enclosures", but boy have I built quite a few different cabinets. I started out with single 12" "full range" speakers in a very pleasing sized box but way too small to get the bass performance I wanted. This was when I was around 16. Then I read about bass reflex cabinets and cut some ports into the too small boxes. The bass was better, but everything else sucked.
A new neighbor moved in next door and one day I heard the most magnificent loud and clean sound coming from his house. I got to know him and it turned out he used a wall in his living room as an infinite baffle. There was a large open stairway on the back side of that wall. Each channel had 2 EV SP15 speakers and an Altec 500 Hz horn. I'd never heard anything like it before. The sound levels he could achieve were unbelievable and I'm surprised nobody called the cops...but he was a cop, so maybe that's why. Sometime later, he decided to replace the SP15s with JBL LE15s and sold me 2 of the EV speakers for next to nothing. This was in 1967.
I used a guide from Electrovoice to "design" properly sized bass reflex cabinets. I was just out of high school and living with my parents at the time. My dad and I cut up the wood and built my cabinets, which were huge. I had them in the basement and when nobody was home, I cranked them up. These were the best speakers I'd ever heard, with the exception of the neighbor's infinite baffle driven with all McIntosh gear. I brought my girlfriend (now wife) over to hear them and she proclaimed them to be the best speakers she'd ever heard.
After we got married, I build a listening room in the basement of our new house. It featured an infinite baffle with 1 SP15 and 1 Altec horn on each side. Now these were the best speakers in the world. I had also built my preamp, power amp and electronic crossovers from scratch and they were the best too.
When we moved to our next house, there wasn't any wall that could be used as an infinite baffle. Someone at work showed me a catalog from a company in Seattle that offered various speaker kits as well as plans. Speakerlab was their name and they offered a set of very detailed plans to build a clone of the Klipschorn as well as a kit. This was a woodworking nightmare from hell with all the compound angled cuts and many pieces to make the folded horn. A pair required 5 sheets of 1/2" plywood and 2 sheets of 3/4" walnut veneered plywood. I bought the plans and built a pair. They were beautiful and looked just like the real thing. I used my EV SP15 in the bass bin and the Altec horn along with a new EV tweeter. These now were the best speakers in the world and even my old neighbor with the infinite baffle said so when he heard them. The only problem was that when friends heard them, they wanted a pair too. I think in total I built 5 pairs for other people. This was in 1978 and I still have them today. They're now bi-amped with home built electronic crossovers and lateral MOSFET power amps. My most recent upgrade was the addition of DSP equalization. I'm old now and I know there are better speakers than mine, but the built in low pass filters in my ears probably couldn't tell the difference.
A lot of people talk or dream about using a wall as an infinite baffle but your neighbour walked the walk. DM
Great story!
Thanks for the inspiration!
My low pass filters are down to about 10kHz.
Active crossover and bi amp is the direction I'm heading.
The EV speakers you referred to, they were a field coil speakers with the tweeters hooked up to the woofer? And a separate transformer?
@@incredifunk No, the SP15 came in 8 and 16 ohms and have a 4 pound 10 ounce ceramic magnet. There is an auxiliary paper cone attached to the main cone and a brilliance control to adjust presence. The auxiliary cone mechanically crosses over at 3500Hz. Its free air resonance is 25 Hz and it weighs 25 pounds. There was also the lower cost SP15B with a lighter magnet structure.
EV also made 15" woofers with a built in horn tweeter. Those were designated 15TRX and lower cost 15TRXB.
I am not aware of any EV speakers that utilized field coils, but they probably existed before my introduction to the hobby in the mid 60s. My SP15s are almost 50 years old and still going strong.
A drummer with a girlfriend??
You mean, a basist with a girlfriend??
@@matijabo Took the words out of my mouth.
😂😂😂
When the meme says more about you.
Easily deflatable for transportation between gigs, so I guess that’s a plus?
With a fondness that can only be born of nostalgia, your video reminded me of my years during the 1980s aspiring to construct the ultimate "high-end" speaker system. My Bible was Edward T. Dell, Jr's Speaker Builder magazine. With my favorite issues of this invaluable resource dog eared and highlighted to near oblivion, I time and again struggled through the arcane stages of cabinet and crossover design, parts purchasing, woodworking and finishing. At the zenith of my hobbiest years I once mounted an 8" polypropylene woofer into a rosewood transmission line cabinet supporting a curvilinear electrostatic element with a passive 6 dB/octave crossover. Considering my total cost was little more than $200, its successful comparisons to an early 1980s Magneplanar MG-1 owned by a close friend convinced me that I'd indeed built the best speakers in the world.
I _do_ have the best speakers in the world: the CBSO at Symphony Hall.
As well as your excellent ‘speakers’, you have a very good listening room. Mine of course is the best, as you will soon see in my channel. DM
The problem with kits is that you don't know if that particular speaker is going to give you the type of sound that you're looking for. Just because one person thinks the design and overall sound are great doesn't mean you'll feel the same way. If you're going the pure DIY route you better have the correct woodworking equipment and be skilled at making cabinets (otherwise it's a lost cause) plus you need the equipment to measure the frequency response of each individual driver so you can design a crossover that works with those drivers.
My first speakers had twin eight inch co-axial drivers. They weren't good. Then I built a pair of speakers using Isophonic drivers from a junked Telefunken console stereo. They sounded amazing. A while later, I acquired a pair of Altec-Lansing 515's and built a pair of A 7 bass horns. I added a subwoofer, which I built using two JBL fifteen inch drivers. I own the best speaker system in the world, or so I think.
. Same build type here. Copied (without plans) the JBL 4560 horn loaded bass cabinets. Couldn't afford the JBL drivers so I chose the Electro-Voice 15's. Horns were all Peavey in Peavey cabinets.
No crossover, full-range signal to both. Peavey had internal protection & attenuator.
I was a working pro-dj & those speakers kicked ass compared to almost anything then.
Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
I must say that it’s refreshing to find and old fart, like me, who started this journey in the 70’s. You are much smarter of course. My first speakers where Crazy Eddy’s Acoustic Phase, which were garbage. Then I made my own which were better. After that I have got speakers like: EV, Altec Lansing, Infinity Slopes, Infinity Kappa 9, Roger Studio one and now B&W. Nothing like those I made. Thanks for the memories Sir.
There was actually a speaker called crazy Eddie's?
Fischer & Fischer SLATE Loudspeakers ! 😇🤫
My Dad build his own speakers when he was in technical training school (in electronics) for his first job out of high school. I have them now and they still sound good. My Wharfedale Diamonds are arguably better, but these old boys still work well. They've got Richard Allan 12-inch woofers and 8-inch mid range, with Philips tweeters. The crossovers and cabinets Dad built himself. My wife hates the things but I love 'em
Making the best speakers is easier now that DSP modules are becoming mainstream. Beyond EQ fixes, harmonic excitation and stage enhancement can make even the boxiest crap sound better.
Vor 30 Jahren konnte man sich die diy Bausätze vorher in Shops anhören. Erst dann gekauft. Das waren noch Zeiten. Schraubt man heute fertiglautsprecher auf bekommt man Tränen in die Augen. Was ein Schrott an billigsten Bauteilen.
I understood that the perfect hifi set up does not exist. I can understand that building your own speakers will give a lot of satisfaction even when they are not perfect. The problem with a so called audiophile is that it is impossible to satisfy him/her as they will think to hear something which is not perfect. To solve that problem other equipment and cables will have to be bought, to find out after some time that also that one is not sounding perfect. I'm listening myself to equipment for which I had to save money for a couple of years, which I choose with care and of which I also know that the positioning is not perfect as the space and furnature in my living room will allow that. Still I enjoy the music I play and that is because I learned that life will never be perfect, but I'm happy with what I have. Even building your own speakers can become therefore a very costly hobby and as long as you will remain hearing the imperfectness instead of the music, you will never be satisfied.
You are wrong sir. Very wrong. The correct answer is no, you cannot have the best loudspeaker in the world because Hollywood let Marty McFly destroy with one (albeit legendary) guitar riff 5 minutes into the movie. Thank you Marty. Because of you and Bif, we can no longer have nice things. 🤬
Classic.
I built and electric and bass guitar. Definitely the best guitars in the world!!
Placebo is a biatch indeed, and most so called "audiophiles" get caught in its loop.
That was the most fun I've had watching a TH-cam video in a long time! Thanks for sharing!
Been doing this for years. DIY speakers have changed my world. Buidling speakers especially suited for the environment they will be listened to makes a world of difference.
My dad, when he was a teenager still living at home (around the mid 1950's), and after obtaining permission from his parents (my grandparents ), proceeded to saw two big square holes in the wooden floor and placed two DIY speaker boxes on top; he used the entire under-floor crawl space as an infinite baffle. Superb bass performance, so he tells me. Fortunately my grandparents approved of that kind of initiative; my dad did lots of DIY audio builds when he was young.
I built my own design headphone amp before they became available commercially; I still think it is the best headphone amp 😬👍
Oh yes, I built my own best headphone amp in the world too. DM
I imagine that the entire household had to 'enjoy' your father's musical tastes...
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx He only played classical music, which apparently they all liked. He had 3 elder sisters and 3 elder brothers; being the youngest member of the family by a few years I think most of his siblings had already left the home, so likely only both my grandparents had to "put up" with his music. It was a a small traditional worker's house they lived in, I remember it well; so no escaping the music. Those speakers had been removed before I was born though, so I have never had the chance to either see or hear them. When my dad married my mother he bought a pair of KEF Chorales, which to date are still performing nicely at my home after he passed them on to me. He's got some KEF LS50's now himself.
Would have loved to hear a bit of Bruckner in that house
@@james9789 Wouldn't have happened; my dad was and still is a Bach / Vivaldi / Telemann / Händel kind of person, and then only instrumental...
My mother on the other hand, is more of a Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest kind of person. But they both like Spanish 16th Century and African traditional. I like all of the above, plus 80's/90's indie & alt rock, shoegaze, and recent Japanese rock. I managed to get both of them into Dead Can Dance 😁; first they hated it, now they love it.
But now we don't even need the book! Just ask the internet, download a simulation progrm. And if you use active crossovers, you don't need to mess around with tempermental crossovers. That way instead of trying to understand electronic components, you just spend an infinite amount of time measuring and tweaking! I currently have 1 "completed" speaker, paired with the previous prototype iteration...I haven't had a matching pair of speakers for awhile now. I might decide the "finished" one is actually just another prototype.... They may never be done, but when they are done, they will definitely be the best in the world!
I agree it took me over a year to learn how to build a decent speaker but I mostly learnt for fun so it's possible to do it faster. Now I can't imagine buying speakers because they got bad value compared to anything I want to build. Its complete freedom, I can do small speakers with deeper bass than anything on market sacrificing sensitivity or I can do monitors that will play reference levels of volume or even 106db without much of a compression if I want to. Cost of components is not to high. I even order enclosures from carpetner because its cheaper and better than buying flat packs which supeised me.
Sounds like you really have "a feel" for speaker enclosures. Would you start a TH-cam channel?
Always appreciate your videos! I have taken a slightly different approach with my listening. When we moved to this house, it came with a sound system that was well beyond anything I would've put together (Krell amp, Krell pre-amp, Sonus Faber Concerto speakers and a REL sub). The Krell needed repair (dried out capacitors) and the room needed to be re-arranged for better placement. Prior to this, I didn't have any systems of any note, although my brother had owned a few that I'd enjoyed listening to from time to time. The sub died shortly after moving in so I replaced it with a modern REL equivalent, not for music but for surround entertainment. I listen in 2 channel for music and 5.1 for movies. I am absolutely ecstatic with the 2 channel performance. Having tested it out as thoroughly as I can, there is nothing lacking to my ear. As such, the ONLY thing I do when I listen to it now is simply enjoy it. I primarily listen to prog rack, some very specific classical concertos and Julian Lage (a jazz guitarist). Listening to the delicate work of a 3 piece jazz trio really makes the hairs on my arm stand up, especially with quality recordings.
A friend of mine, on the other hand, is always talking about upgrading his setup (2 channel, vinyl with a tube amp), to the point where I'm not really sure how much he's allowing himself to enjoy the music he owns. TLDR: if you're happy with the music you're hearing and can't pick out any artifacts, then stop chasing upgrades and enjoy the hell out of it.
I've built myself quad speaker 3 way with diy cross overs with good phase impedance and spl. To my ears they are the best in the world 😅
It was certainly a steep learning curve without books, kits etc. just public info on the internet. I've taught myself building and cnc-ing enclosures, xsim, rew and how to use umik1 and measure impedance with a usb sound 'card'. Used high quality cross over parts. Also made sure the room curve measures well at listening position. Even applied some room treatment. I've probably sunk 2k euros into it but I really enjoy worlds best music on my worlds best audio system tweaked to my tastes!
Oh yes, I built two pair of speakers back in the 70s. For the second pair we didn't have any foam to put inside, so we dismantled some pillows and problem solved. Fond memories indeed.
My amstrad speakers are the best and my bush radio and alba turntable lol 😝
LoL!
So many comments to dig through…assuming people have already mention using it and was great to see it in the description. But I also got my start using “The Loudspeaker Design Cookbook” by Vance Dickason …. No idea what version they are on now…
I used it to design and build subwoofer boxes for cars…. Sealed, ported, band pass ….. all that jazz. MDF was hard to come by those days.. early 90s…
Thanks for the great walk down memory lane
Now we have computer generated crossover simulation that they didn't even have until 20 years ago and that program cost a fortune but we can get it for free a have rew and Umik i built some speakers that will go head to head with most big box companies i used jantzen z caps and inductors 3 rd order crossovers perfectly balanced with tons of bass. Mdf solid oak on top gold leaf trim. I don't think I can afford to buy speakers as good as mine sound and look for under $10000 and anyone that listen to them agrees without me telling them i buillt them .
I built my first set back in the 70s. ElectroVoice SP12B. To me they were the best, especially when listening to Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Stones, ....etc. etc.
I built my own, they suck. unfortunately.(they LOOK good) i replaced some blown speakers in commercially made boxes, they sound great. maybe i can tweak my homemade ones. WILL DO more research, first.
Just wondering if there is one more method: Open up a pair of speakers that cost about $1000 and measure the cabinet dimensions to +/_ 0.1". Study the bracing and driver positioning, etc, etc. Locate the same drivers and crossover online and order them. Then on your new table saw, cut up the pieces and router in the holes needed to mount things up. Glue it all together..... Surely one has now built the best speakers in the world. Thanks for the videos and hello to Betty and Debbie.
Build your own speakers or, if you’re a young physics student named Brian May, build your own guitar. Then your new bassist John builds a small amp to complete your sound. See - easy!
With help from his dad, don't forget.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Harold, yes! Good call!
Sounds like Apple’s pricing policy: Infinity, add more RAM, and you still have infinity, add more storage? You still have infinity!
Still use the LS3/5a Wilmslow Audio copies in the bedroom which I built forty years ago after my A-levels. Then it was the WA SPL1 monitors with Morel drive units yadda yadda which i used for twenty five years and which then became THE BEST SPEAKERS IN THE WORLD! But now, I've *ahem* acquired a pair of factory built Mirage speakers plus stands, from Canada. Holy shit. These things blow the socks off anything home-made. Problem is, I've now also acquired a pair of 15" Tannoy dual concentric drive units...which are up in the loft but which will of course, in time be used as the basis of my home-designed BEST SPEAKERS IN THE WORLD (Mk II).
You joke about it and quite grossly underestimate us DIYers. The fact is, however, that many have (at least) as much knowledge as the 'professionals'. Let put it like this.....
For 600-700 Euros, you can easily build speakers that are at least as good as factory-built speakers that cost around 3000 Euros.
If you don't want/can't build the speakers yourself, there are many sites that provide full build descriptions (Audioexcite, Troels Gravesen, Zaph Audio, etc.)
And yes, I have designed my speakers myself. Cost is around 700-800 Euro. Are they better than ready-made speakers in the 3000 Euro price range? I haven't listened to all the speakers in this price range, but they easily beat all the ones I've listened to.
(Drinking from military style canteen- “Kremlin Strike”
1/7 part of tonic, 1/4 redbull and the rest is pure diesel fuel )
Still left puzzled…
what is your point?
OR
that you are diy by dna/autodidact/silver to golden hands.
OR
That you are not.
Be blessed, healthy, free,creative and prosper.
N.B - the best speakers in the world are in “Hall 5” subfloor “-14”, area 51.
Salute!
I built speakers when I was a child, to be honest, they were at best "ok" :), but I get the point :D!
best party speaker that totaly rocks....the cerwin vega single 15 inch woofer or the dual 15 inch woofermmy buddy said wich is a great hifi nerd said the bose 901s arnt realy effient
Tubes or Solid State, Class-A or AB, Large Speakers or Small & Time Aligned or Flat-Faced, unless it begins from a well-voiced Moving Coil phono cartridge, it's not music, it's just sound.
I built my own car stereo setup with my choice of drivers and tweeters Also made up my own crossovers using charts and books I found on the subject Not bad results but I always learned something new which I love to do still. Still amazing alpine demo TA with dozen 6x9s in the rear prior to subs coming to the forefront of car audio I still believe it would rock today 😁🎵🎵
Best speakers ever made - ‘ER AUDIO Electrostat’s’ from Australia. Buy them as a DIY or complete, build crossovers, even tension and glue the Mylar and coat it in conductive solution. Rob from ER Audio has even resolved original issues that ESL’s were know for, resulting in a modern ESL that is free from beaming, drum resonance and low bass out put.
I build a set of speakers in the 60's warfdales they were ok Then i made a huge mistake I build a kit of goodman speakers It includes 1 woofer 1 horn midrange 1 horn tweeter 2 volume controls per side 4 total a bass port and instructions for the cabinet and crossover . I built to exactly what they said In the money of the time they cost a small fortune . To my ears the sound was garbage the horns sounded like listening in a bathroom the volume controls $20 each in 1962 money didn't help I swore never again to take a chance on speakers I can't hear first . Later bought AVID 103's which were excellent at the time and a good price now have B&W 100 i's with a polk subwoofer .
I just finished building a pair of experimental speakers... 9 x 3" drivers with a tuned port and obviously, no crossover.
They sound dreadful!
Possibly not the very worst in the world, but a close runner up!
A far-cry from "Perfection" - Altec 891v series are cheap, & some of the most musical, warm, open, fast, present & life-like speakers I've ever enjoyed hearing. They make *_Music_* - not just sound
Thanks for a great presentation! I'm proud to have owned a number of the best speakers in the world!
Interesting…, as an ex Fitter Turner…, I wouldn’t bother.., it would take considerable effort n practice to make anything as good as my Dynaudio Contours…, a lot o time..
I have once listened to a pair of Lowther-loaded Voigt clones sourced by a Mark Levinson CD+DAC through a high end scandinavian amp of some description and tbh I wasn't particularly impressed by the end result... yes, it sounded good but not good enough to justify price, hassle and space taken by these monster boxes. Then driving home, it occurred me that (most?) Voigt cabs were designed almost a century ago
a) for low powered mono sound,
b) to be placed on corners, and
c) in big living rooms, cinema halls, etc. not in your average modern town house.
Are You a fan of G.R.research? Why I ask this? Danny Richie Claims to make The best speakers in the world...Im not a fan of G.R. Research ,but they might be for you?..Let me know....
Hard to compete with companys like B&W who will invest 3-4 hundres thousand to develope $500 - 600 bookshelf speakers
When I was younger I had to have a pair of Pioneer HPM-100 to have a great bass. Loads of tinkering with the electronics of the (then) 25 year veterans to try and get the best sound out of it -- and yes, that did involve a new cross-over design!
A few tears were shed when I sold them, these beasts were simply too big for my room, but good memories all 'round.
Back in the '70's, while in the Army stationed near Munich, I got a pair of Pioneer CS-911. They were a four-way speaker. They sounded great with a 15 inch bass and two "super" tweeters. I retired them a few years ago and got a pair of Klipsch. I still have the receipt. They cost $360.00 back in 1976. And that was discounted for GIs at the Audio Club.
Still have my HPM 100s. Still sound great 45 years later.
The look and sound of Paul McCartney is a bit uncanny. Hopefully, so are the speakers he's recommending !!
You can build speakers that will be very good speakers if you made active filter, good measurements
And this time it’s not just for you it’s available for everyone
Just forget passive filters and don’t forget to make good measurements
If you just put hp in a box like that it will be crap
My dad built two x 8" woofers (kef) not sure what make the 2" tweeters where,but these where the best heavy bass crisp tops quite big deep boxes ,20 years later i removed the 2",treeter and replaced the whole with a thick cardboard tube As port used them as bass ,a mate of mine still has them goung strong ❤🇬🇧🍀🇮🇪
You built Falcon Tabors from a kit? So did I in 1980. Mine used Audax woofers and tweeters in a ported box. They were very clean and deep in the bass but had an odd tonality... a leaness in the lower mids that made an alto sax sound like a tenor sax. I venture to say the crossover was the culprit. Often designers were not as good as they are sometimes made out to be.
This may be based on the fact people get more pleasure out of something they made themselves. (Kids for example. They are always the best.) Like their own cheese cake as opposed to some famous pastry chef's. But if this is what you're thinking of, it will fail horribly if you ever ABX them. Well not if you're Dennis Murphy, but in most other cases. Just try to shape the port opening cover to prevent chuffing port noise... It's inaccessible to you. You can make it as good as a mediocre one was in the 70'.
It's on another level these days. Perhaps one could try one of those designs that has been largely abandoned for their complexity as a true transmission line.
Your videos are pure joy. Can´t wait for the next one. On this particular topic, there is no way I would ever venture into building a pair of speakers (kit or no kit), but if I did, it would surely be due to your compelling arguments...
I disagree. The best speakers in the world are the ones you like best. And yes, you will want to build yours. BUT you will not build the best speakers in the world until AFTER you build the worst speakers. in the world.
There are great DIY speakers out there. For (retail). under a grand, you'll get drivers and crossover parts better than anything at that price on the audio market. For the price of some 3- way midline cerwin-vega, I ended up with drivers from scan-speak and peerless. 5% tolerance crossover parts. They weren't t the greatest in the world, but the performance for the money was major league. Transparent,, detailed and impactful.
I'd never have audiophile approved validation in any reviews, so - I'd have to be satisfied on their own merits, and no one else's opinion of them. There is a great satisfaction in DIY.
Definition of sound quality:
Sound Quality is when the reproduced music is indistinguishable to the analog reference*.
The *analog reference is how th music sounded when leaving the rim of the stage relevant to live gigs.
The *analog reference is how the music signal sounded af downmix to first stereo master related to studio takes.
How could you ever be fooled to think colouration and taste has influence.
I suppose the scope of your video could be extended to also include the best . . . Active Loudspeakers . . . in the World.
Wilmslow Audio sell both amplifiers and loudspeakers . . .
no such thing as best speakers in the world everybody's hearing is different shouldn't make stupid comments like that
Hello. : ) thank you !
I recently knew about "best speakers for vynil records".
I imagine that's a bored cheap trick. I don't consider neither joke speakers for vynil records, speakers for CDs, speakers for *flashbeagle and disco dance.*
please let me know if you have some opinion or information about that, or just should we forget it.
The best speakers in the world are a pair of electrostatic headphones. Seriously. Once you had cans, you never go back. ;-)
I enjoy you sense of humor. Since I've never been able to build anything worth a damn, I just worked harder and bought my speakers. I've always been partial to English speakers, despite the fact that I live in the US. My favorites were the ProAc Response 3 that I bought in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. Today, I can't afford them, so I bought the Wharfdale Linton Heritage and they sound fantastic. My old ears can't tell the difference between $20k and $50k and up, so I'll stick with my great sounding Linton's because they are "they are best speakers in the world".
I’ve worked with ProAc speakers professionally. Great sound and very tough. DM
@@AudioMasterclassHow can you know that is a great sound if you are not able to ear the difference between capacitors and coils from different brands in the crossover ?
I'm currently on a similar journey to try building my own tube-based guitar amplifier. I made the mistake of saying out loud, "how hard can it be?" and the audio gods have been having a good laugh at me ever since as I plow my way through the most amazing array of technical jargon and deep-dive engineering books I've dealt with in a long while. However, I'm sure that when I'm done, it will be the best guitar amplifier in the world, so I have that to look forward to.
It will be, absolutely. DM
I've traveled that road and your absolutely right on the outcome...cheers !
I indeed have also built 'the best speakers in the world' (with help from my Dad). Made with 5" Vifa Woofers and Philips Ribbon Tweeters with some random cross-over from a local electronics chain in Australia (Jaycar). Designed using a BASIC computer program from a book (Designing, Building and Testing Your Own Speaker System by David B. Weems). 25 years and still going strong!
I live in Australia and build speakers and I use Jaycar woofers. Their 10" woofer is amazing.
@@Justwantahover, Nice!. Indeed my
Philips Tweeters, speaker stuffing and binding posts were also bought from Jaycar, though the Vifa Woofers were from Radio Parts.
I've recently discovered your channel and I'm really enjoying your videos. Please, keep it up!
Are you in the US, an Englishman abroad? Talking dollars and an American dollybird "assistant" 😅
I do have the best speakers in the world but I had to build them and they look like the ones behind you
I think I will stick to buying ready made speakers....
I built kit speakers when I was high school. They were from a Seattle company called Speaker Lab. I liked the company because the built their own speaker components included spinning the voice coils and magnetizing the drivers. I built the cabinets in the wood shop at school. They were nothing fancy; just 2-way speakers with 8" woofer, dome tweeter and sealed cabinet of the appropriate volume. I ran them from a vacuum-tube integrated amp with about about 25W/channel, but the setup actually performed better than what most kids my age had. I actually don't remember much else about the system. I don't even remember what I had for a turntable, but remember playing nothing but vinyl. :)
Very refreshing. Thanks. Built the transmission line PRO-9 monitors from Wilmslow Audio about half a century ago! Gave a very good result. Everyone was very impressed because until then no one had a concept of what Hi-fi is all about. Been listening to transistor radios! PRO-9's eventually were discarded due to moving around.
Why is your right speaker so close to the wall/corner in the first background? You gotta let those speakers have breathing space man.
I've designed and built a few speakers - a 3-way 8-inch transmission line system which sounds quite good except the titanium tweeter I used sounds very open but can also be "tizzy" on some material- maybe I'll change to a soft dome at some point; I use these at my office. The bass is very good, very "un-boxy" and with great transients. I built a couple of 2-ways, with SEAS or ScanSpeak drivers, some are biamped using MiniDSP- all of these sound pretty good. I am currently building a pair of 3-way active Bluetooth towers using some low cost drivers. So far these sound awful - boomy bass- but some iterative design will likely fix that. There are going to go to a young-ish person who wants to listen to loud music.
Get the room right then you have the best speaker. a multi million dollar speaker in a big echoey room will never sound any good. the room is everything imho. get the room right than you have it cracked
Anything I built myself would not be the best to me or anyone else. I'm very good at somethings but not woodworking and not electronics! I know my limitations and interests and that is not it. That said thank you for an entertaining video!
I am lusting over a pair of La Scala's. Cannot set them up by myself so I do not buy them.
In the photography industry we say "the best camera is the one you have with you." ;)
I thought you were going to say the best speakers in the world are the ones you have haha! Close!
Fairly close. I think there's such a thing as good enough then just get on and enjoy them. None of my three pairs of speakers are perfect but I won't be changing anytime soon. DM
Building speakers by putting random components together is going to lead to disaster just like trying to play music by hitting random notes or trying to write a masterpiece by hitting random keys on a keyboard
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Hello David, best channel ever..
I’ve upgraded and redesigned crossovers, and have upgraded drivers, on stereo speakers in the past, but I’ve never built any from scratch.
(I stink at woodworking).
I have a few books on the subject that just sit on a bookshelf, but the one you mentioned sounded intriguing, and a seemingly good buy at $50, but no current plans for new speakers, since I currently have 2 sets of floor standers already. I had to chuckle when you mentioned the 4x12”’s. Back when I played guitar, more years ago now than I care to think about, I picked up a Laney LC-50, which was a 50 watt 1x12” combo with 2 6L6 output tubes. The problem was that it had this really annoyingly crisp and bright HH speaker in it, so I got my hands on one of the 12” Celestion speakers that was same as the ones in the old Marshall 4 x 12 cabinets, and I put that speaker in the combo instead in place of the HH speaker, and then, problem solved. 😉
EMI Model 62 speakers are the best I have heard in my 79 years an they were only 80 dollars new each:
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I just discovered your channel, and I love it. What I cherish the most is your down-to-earth, no-bullshit attitude. Thank you, and kudos for that!
Don't worry. My commenters keep my feet firmly on the ground.
It would be a Sound investment..
The best speakers in the world have good spinorama.
Yes very funny our capacity to fool ourselves is amazing but its true.
Hi "Master". How on earth do I know what "crossovers" my DIY hifi speakers needs or should have?. Kindly if you could dedicate a stream on this topic. I'm in progress to build a pair of big speakers something like "Kappa 8", but better I hope. I'm searching for an open and detailed "wall of sound" that fills the whole room without having the volume at full blast. Listening mostly to guitar rock, jazz and blues. I think I have sufficient power amplifiers for heavy load, 2 pcs Primare A35 mono blocks 800W - 8 ohm. All the best.
For this I would recommend a loudspeaker building forum. You'll find more information on this very specialised topic than I can provide. www.google.com/search?q=loudspeaker+building+forum
7:55 I think I bought my Wharfedale Dovedale 3 kits from Wilmslow Audio in 1972. After several weeks of amateur woodworking and bodging I thought they sounded superb. I still have them.
This has triggered a search for Wilmslow Audio in the first edition of Wireless World I ever bought - October 1971 (I had just started at University). I used to love the ads in there. There's a Quad ad (before the 405); SME 3009 (I have one now in my Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference); Garrard AP76 (it's all I could afford in those days, with Shure M75ED), and an ad for the wonderfully named Wayne Kerr, of bridge fame (Cables: Waynkerr Surbiton). And an ad for the Sinclair Project 60, an ad by Nagra seeking a Junior Service Engineer, but no Wilmslow Audio. I wonder where I saw their ads.
They used to advertise in "practical wireless", if i remember correctly. About 50 years ago! Mercy!
Excellent video. Thank you sir.
Ahh, the memories… my Dad had a workshop with all the tools (radial arm saw, drills, fasteners, etc.). I managed to order a book on how to build speakers (this was the 70’s - pre- internet obviously).
I perused the information and came up with a design. I reused some Radio Shack mids from a friends old speakers, bought a Phillips Dome tweeter and an 8” woofer from somewhere. I don’t recall where i got the crossover from.
Anyway, I assembled the cabinet, gave it a beautiful finish and framed and covered the speaker covers with some material I found in my mother’s sewing room.
They looked fantastic!
I installed a 1” strip of wood on the front underside of the speakers so they would sit tilted slightly back.
Excitedly I hooked up my 20 Watt Realistic (a Toshiba that sounded like 50 Watts) amp, put a record on my Dual 510 and…
They did not sound as I had hoped/ dreamed.
The bass was completely anemic. Mids and Highs were ok.
The point of my long ramble is that no matter how disappointing the results it was a very satisfying venture.
I then turned my ambitious thoughts to building a pair of 12” Karlson (open baffle) Enclosures. I even managed to get the plans. (I still have them somewhere although they can be found via a brief google search.) Alas, I never got around to building them.
My son has excellent woodworking skills so perhaps one day soon we could build a set together.
And just maybe he too will get to experience the joy of building your own speakers no matter the outcome.
There's an element of truth about your home designed speakers being TBSITW! You automatically match your speakers to your system and room. And if you change a piece (e.g. a DAC or cartridge or amp) you can tweak the speakers to match the new component(s).
I built my own speakers twice and they definately were not the best speakers I had heard . no 1 HiFi world KLS 9 with an audax 8inch aerogel woofer and an audax tweeter .Far too much bass and not strong on detail crap tweeter Next ...I built a pair of Wilmslow audio prestige model with Scanspeak revelator tweeter , ATC 3inch soft dome mid and 12 inch Volt radial bass very well speced crossover with polycaps etc I wasn`t messing about this time I gave them to my son after a couple of years cause i couldn`t sell them . A pair of svelt Sonus Faber cremonas replaced them . Followed by ATC scm 100 actives towers too revealing then Meridian dsp 8000se too unreliable . still not happy sold them . I now have Michi X5 , Q audio C500s Project cd transport Weiss 202 pre/ headphone amp ,Stax 007 and 009 sennheiser hd 600 ,650 headphones with a Mjolner carbon energiser all used from e bay .Building your own speakers seems a good idea at the time but they are rarely sucessful the Cremonas blew away the WA prestige even with their superior drivers .
Although your projects seem to have failed, I'd guess that the experience has added to your current enjoyment of audio.
Don't build your own speakers, most people that do end up with crap sound 😢
I don't hate anybody, but I could come close with this guy.
This definitely hasn't been true for me, I'm just as critical of my own work, if not more so, than any store bought speaker.
The people who are the very best at what they do are never happy with their performance, which is why they are the best.
I tried to build a pair of speakers once, and they sucked. I gave up after that.
One thing I've found is that speakers never sound like being at a classical concert or an acoustical jazz concert. I wanted speakers to sound like being at the concert sounded, but I've never found that. I'm thinking I should become ungodly wealthy and have my own chamber historically informed chamber orchestra. The problem is, I'm not close to being that wealthy, and since I'm retired, I won't be getting any wealthier. Therefore, I'll probably just stick with what I've had for the last 40 years. I'm also not handy, so self building is probably not going to help.
what you builded than.. i am about the buy the audimax reference kit. its expensive.. but ive heard it should beat 20 30 40k speakers
Allot of what i did, not sure my speakers are the best in the world but i have yet to a/b test them with a better speaker 😅
I’m too old to start building anything, anyway will you consider to give me and advise about how to keep in shape my KEF 104.2 please if you don’t mind lad. Regards
That would be out of my range of experience but there are forums on the web on speaker maintenance so a Google search might strike lucky.