This is a brilliant video! You've answered a good many of my questions about electrical appliances in a van or SUV. Also, I love your build. It is so clean, uncluttered and modern.
Thanks for posting the English version. Do you have links to 12v DC powered induction stoves? When search what comes up appears to be AC powered induction stoves units requiring an inverter, not 12v ones. Thx.
Here’s the link I found online for the 24V version. I haven’t seen a 12V one yet because, at 700W, the current for 12V exceeds 60 amps. Currently, Anderson connectors are limited to 50 amps. You might want to consider setting up a separate 24V system, which would be better suited for high-power devices. 【淘宝】7天无理由退货 e.tb.cn/h.ThTx1tuMnrVCGJq?tk=c7zIeaBSV2N MF6563 「车载电磁炉24V48V汽车货车房车用热炉触摸直流变频电磁炉炒菜电炒」 点击链接直接打开 或者 淘宝搜索直接打开
I have never seen any DC powered induction cooktops here in Europe They’re all 230 AC from what I’ve seen and you run them through your inverter of course. And for a good reason as the current to feed even a (small) 1000W induction cooker on 12V would be in the range of 80 Amps ⚠️
@ there is a couple with a channel (can’t recall it’s name) that camps around UK in a smaller RV/ van-class B that was cooking on a single burner portable stove top (I think the called it a hob). Although their hob was AC, they explicitly said it was one of very few they had found that did NOT surge up to the top draw to start of 1800w no matter what you set it for, which is beyond the inverter range of many earlier or smaller/less expensive power stations. The only indication stovetop I’ve found for sell in US that does not surge to highest power when first turned on is a NuWave with 600w/900w/1300w, but it is AC requiring an inverter. That works because I mostly cook at medium or low-medium temps.
@@simeiworkeri would like to see internals of that dc induction. There has to be internal electronics thats do the swiching. Dc cannot do induction by its own it requires switching.
You nicely present a makes-sense solution that most van electral system people don't mention (probably because DC appliance diversity was much more limited in the past). I think many people can benefit from your example. Good job. Users need to be fully aware of the low wattage of DC appliances (which you mentioned), but the required longer preps times can be accommodated with simple planning (which you also mentioned).
Speaking of cooking rice. Do soak your rice overnight in water and it will take only about half the time to cook. As a long time camper, Ive done this for years and it saves on a lot of power.
If there were 48V systems in cars, trucks, campers, boats and even smaller homes there were hardly any need for AC power at all. But maybe we will switch to battery powered appliances anyway.
One thing I would add about the induction cook top and pans you can get a small circle of magnetic steel and place it between any pan and the cook top and cook safely.
Thank you for another great video sharing the knowledge you've earned by experience. A reliable and practical power supply like the one you're using is essential. Please let us know how to get one. Also, I notice you're using automatic dubbing for this video, and I'm curious about your experience with this tool for your language. Do you recommend it?
I’m using a 24-volt, 2.52 kWh lithium iron battery system. It features three 10-amp cigarette lighter sockets, a 50-amp Anderson connector, an MPPT solar input, and an aviation plug input. It’s a custom-designed product, and since I skipped the inverter, it’s more compact.
Here in the U.S. most vehicles have 12v power outlets, not 24v. The "Solar generators" also have only 12v power taps. Do the Solar Generators (battery back-ups) have 24v taps in your country? Taobao does not appear to have English version of website. Maybe Alibaba? Would love to get a 24v induction cooker. Thanks for video.
Yeah, trucks in Europe and Asia run on 24 volts, so there are a lot of 24-volt DC devices designed for drivers. For solar panels, you just need two 12-volt panels connected in series to make a 24-volt system. As for energy storage batteries, if you don’t include an inverter, they’re much smaller and don’t have heat dissipation issues.
Thanks @simeiworker , for creating & sharing your electric cooking setup! I am inspired to only use DC appliances when camping. Much safer than burning fuel in an enclosed space 😨
Thank you for this informative video! How do you manage all the grease/oil/steam getting absorbed into your car headliner and all other fabrics? I want to cook in my car but afraid it will attract bears in bear country as those odors linger for quite some time. Hoping you have found a solution!
When cooking inside the car, the key is using low-power DC appliances and mostly opting for “slow cooking” methods. This minimizes steam and oil smoke. Opening the windows slightly for ventilation and keeping the cooking area away from the car’s interior decorations can also help.
probably the most important point for me, inverters are a wear item. they all seem to burn out after a certain amount of kwh is ran thru them. obviously heat is important, but sometimes they just fail, usually when you need them most in the middle of nowhere. I have a video on my channel about how i reduced the power consumption of my dc fridge by around 80%, to the point where its so cheap to use at home it saves energy as a drink fridge coz i open my main fridge less often.
I cannot understand how you operate an induction hob off 12v without an inverter. Please can you supply details of the model that you are using. Thank you.
In fact, this is a 24-volt DC induction cooker. Since trucks in Europe and some Asian countries use 24-volt batteries, these appliances are designed for truck drivers. 【淘宝】7天无理由退货 e.tb.cn/h.T7tQXbk78wzBIpi?tk=3PkZe0KSePe CZ0002 「车载电磁炉24V48V汽车货车房车用热炉触摸直流变频电磁炉炒菜电炒」 点击链接直接打开 或者 淘宝搜索直接打开
There is a reason why high power devices use 230V~ and not 12 V=. Yes, an inverter is ineffective. But the very high currents necessary for 12V=, it's best to keep the wire very, very short. Therefore put battery and inverter side by side. Appliances further away should use higher voltages, like 230V~. Most cigarette lighter sockets work safely and reliably up to 120 Watts.
Yes, that’s exactly how it is. However, truck systems in Asia and Europe use 24-volt batteries, which has led to the development of many appliances specifically designed for truck drivers. Of course, their wattage isn’t very high. For example, an induction cooker typically runs at over 1200 watts on AC power, but the DC versions we can buy are usually limited to 600 watts. Other appliances, like kettles, are often only around 200 watts. From another perspective, having more time outdoors makes it easier to adapt. While it takes a bit longer to use these appliances, it helps conserve battery power, which I personally find acceptable.
If you use the correct sized inverter they have less loss. And if you only use 220v for only the high wattage equipment and shut it down outside the investment is not need to 24 cooking equipment. I have it split. continues equipment on 12v and the microwave, stove and coffeemaker on 220v. So the inverter runs max 1 hour a day.
everlander or something like that. he started doing that to all his appliances because his inverter randomly failed and couldnt be fixed despite his skill in board level repairs. inverters are wear items, people need to understand that.
When cooking rice, it starts with high power to boil off the water, then switches to low power to keep warm and steam the rice. It works just like an AC-powered rice cooker, where most of the cooking time relies on steaming.
Yes, that’s true, but some, like rice cookers and thermos bottles, are already very useful. More users will lead to more and better products like these.
If he accepts Jesus Christ's as savior and GOD his little rig can start the caravan from the North American Wilderness to Jerusalem and once there he can get a job working for the building of Ezekiel's wall. After passing through Asia and seeing the removal of the dragon wall as motivation.
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This is a brilliant video! You've answered a good many of my questions about electrical appliances in a van or SUV. Also, I love your build. It is so clean, uncluttered and modern.
Thanks for posting this information very helpful
Very nice and useful video
Thanks
Thanks for posting the English version. Do you have links to 12v DC powered induction stoves? When search what comes up appears to be AC powered induction stoves units requiring an inverter, not 12v ones. Thx.
Here’s the link I found online for the 24V version. I haven’t seen a 12V one yet because, at 700W, the current for 12V exceeds 60 amps. Currently, Anderson connectors are limited to 50 amps. You might want to consider setting up a separate 24V system, which would be better suited for high-power devices.
【淘宝】7天无理由退货 e.tb.cn/h.ThTx1tuMnrVCGJq?tk=c7zIeaBSV2N MF6563 「车载电磁炉24V48V汽车货车房车用热炉触摸直流变频电磁炉炒菜电炒」
点击链接直接打开 或者 淘宝搜索直接打开
I have never seen any DC powered induction cooktops here in Europe They’re all 230 AC from what I’ve seen and you run them through your inverter of course. And for a good reason as the current to feed even a (small) 1000W induction cooker on 12V would be in the range of 80 Amps ⚠️
@ there is a couple with a channel (can’t recall it’s name) that camps around UK in a smaller RV/ van-class B that was cooking on a single burner portable stove top (I think the called it a hob). Although their hob was AC, they explicitly said it was one of very few they had found that did NOT surge up to the top draw to start of 1800w no matter what you set it for, which is beyond the inverter range of many earlier or smaller/less expensive power stations. The only indication stovetop I’ve found for sell in US that does not surge to highest power when first turned on is a NuWave with 600w/900w/1300w, but it is AC requiring an inverter. That works because I mostly cook at medium or low-medium temps.
@@simeiworkeri would like to see internals of that dc induction. There has to be internal electronics thats do the swiching. Dc cannot do induction by its own it requires switching.
But rest is nice and will help you save energy. Most ppl want everything fast and dont want to wait. You are more efficient ;) cheers
I’ve missed your posts. This is terrific thank you 🙏.
You nicely present a makes-sense solution that most van electral system people don't mention (probably because DC appliance diversity was much more limited in the past). I think many people can benefit from your example. Good job. Users need to be fully aware of the low wattage of DC appliances (which you mentioned), but the required longer preps times can be accommodated with simple planning (which you also mentioned).
Danke, das es auch auf deutsch gibt. Sehr interessant.😊👍🙋
Speaking of cooking rice. Do soak your rice overnight in water and it will take only about half the time to cook. As a long time camper, Ive done this for years and it saves on a lot of power.
Thanks for the tip! I'll have to try that.
Super informative thanks heaps
If there were 48V systems in cars, trucks, campers, boats and even smaller homes there were hardly any need for AC power at all. But maybe we will switch to battery powered appliances anyway.
This is a very good video!
Thank you!
One thing I would add about the induction cook top and pans you can get a small circle of magnetic steel and place it between any pan and the cook top and cook safely.
Thank you for another great video sharing the knowledge you've earned by experience. A reliable and practical power supply like the one you're using is essential. Please let us know how to get one.
Also, I notice you're using automatic dubbing for this video, and I'm curious about your experience with this tool for your language. Do you recommend it?
I’m using a 24-volt, 2.52 kWh lithium iron battery system. It features three 10-amp cigarette lighter sockets, a 50-amp Anderson connector, an MPPT solar input, and an aviation plug input. It’s a custom-designed product, and since I skipped the inverter, it’s more compact.
Here in the U.S. most vehicles have 12v power outlets, not 24v. The "Solar generators" also have only 12v power taps. Do the Solar Generators (battery back-ups) have 24v taps in your country? Taobao does not appear to have English version of website. Maybe Alibaba? Would love to get a 24v induction cooker. Thanks for video.
Yeah, trucks in Europe and Asia run on 24 volts, so there are a lot of 24-volt DC devices designed for drivers. For solar panels, you just need two 12-volt panels connected in series to make a 24-volt system. As for energy storage batteries, if you don’t include an inverter, they’re much smaller and don’t have heat dissipation issues.
Thanks @simeiworker , for creating & sharing your electric cooking setup! I am inspired to only use DC appliances when camping. Much safer than burning fuel in an enclosed space 😨
Off topic, storing boiling water enough for several drinks or uses, new and neat idea, saves steaming up the van multiple times.
Thank you for this informative video! How do you manage all the grease/oil/steam getting absorbed into your car headliner and all other fabrics? I want to cook in my car but afraid it will attract bears in bear country as those odors linger for quite some time. Hoping you have found a solution!
When cooking inside the car, the key is using low-power DC appliances and mostly opting for “slow cooking” methods. This minimizes steam and oil smoke. Opening the windows slightly for ventilation and keeping the cooking area away from the car’s interior decorations can also help.
請問暖氣問題怎樣解決? 🙏
目前我還沒有經歷過長時間的低溫，但用羽絨睡袋加上一條毯子，曾經熬過了零下11度的寒冷。其實，還有直流電的電熱毯可以購買，應該也是不錯的選擇。
probably the most important point for me, inverters are a wear item. they all seem to burn out after a certain amount of kwh is ran thru them. obviously heat is important, but sometimes they just fail, usually when you need them most in the middle of nowhere.
I have a video on my channel about how i reduced the power consumption of my dc fridge by around 80%, to the point where its so cheap to use at home it saves energy as a drink fridge coz i open my main fridge less often.
I cannot understand how you operate an induction hob off 12v without an inverter. Please can you supply details of the model that you are using. Thank you.
In fact, this is a 24-volt DC induction cooker. Since trucks in Europe and some Asian countries use 24-volt batteries, these appliances are designed for truck drivers.
【淘宝】7天无理由退货 e.tb.cn/h.T7tQXbk78wzBIpi?tk=3PkZe0KSePe CZ0002 「车载电磁炉24V48V汽车货车房车用热炉触摸直流变频电磁炉炒菜电炒」
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It's just impossible, no matter what he promotes. Unless you want to wire your system for a current of 80-150 Amps 😂
Please share info on your white storage boxes. Thank you.
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There is a reason why high power devices use 230V~ and not 12 V=. Yes, an inverter is ineffective. But the very high currents necessary for 12V=, it's best to keep the wire very, very short. Therefore put battery and inverter side by side. Appliances further away should use higher voltages, like 230V~.
Most cigarette lighter sockets work safely and reliably up to 120 Watts.
Yes, that’s exactly how it is. However, truck systems in Asia and Europe use 24-volt batteries, which has led to the development of many appliances specifically designed for truck drivers. Of course, their wattage isn’t very high. For example, an induction cooker typically runs at over 1200 watts on AC power, but the DC versions we can buy are usually limited to 600 watts. Other appliances, like kettles, are often only around 200 watts. From another perspective, having more time outdoors makes it easier to adapt. While it takes a bit longer to use these appliances, it helps conserve battery power, which I personally find acceptable.
If you use the correct sized inverter they have less loss. And if you only use 220v for only the high wattage equipment and shut it down outside the investment is not need to 24 cooking equipment. I have it split. continues equipment on 12v and the microwave, stove and coffeemaker on 220v. So the inverter runs max 1 hour a day.
There's a canadian guy with an earthroamer who has a yt video on how to convert ac appliances to dc
Link please to this man to gain more knowledge. Ty.
everlander or something like that. he started doing that to all his appliances because his inverter randomly failed and couldnt be fixed despite his skill in board level repairs. inverters are wear items, people need to understand that.
@@mlw8998it tried to post the info but it wouldn't work. I made a separate post for you with the critical info and corre t name.
@@lesliehunter1823 A separate post? What does that mean? Where do I find this? Im not a techy but I sure appreciate your information. Ty
No way of starting with 24/48 V?
I use a 24-volt battery because trucks in Europe and Asia run on 24 volts, so it’s easy to find appliances designed for their setup.
Cooking rice for 45mins with 185W of power at 12V quickly adds up to a lots of energy consumption / battery drainage.
When cooking rice, it starts with high power to boil off the water, then switches to low power to keep warm and steam the rice. It works just like an AC-powered rice cooker, where most of the cooking time relies on steaming.
Nice video. However, the audio has a strange, occasional chirping-like sound. You might want to look into where that is coming from.
Alright, we’ll take a look and make improvements. Thank you.
So few dc options and so many are poor quality.
Yes, that’s true, but some, like rice cookers and thermos bottles, are already very useful. More users will lead to more and better products like these.
For safety reasons? I cook with gas for 60 years now and wont change a thing to any electric hype.
If he accepts Jesus Christ's as savior and GOD his little rig can start the caravan from the North American Wilderness to Jerusalem and once there he can get a job working for the building of Ezekiel's wall. After passing through Asia and seeing the removal of the dragon wall as motivation.