I Watched DBS: Superhero in 0.16x Speed. Here's What I Found!

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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo  ปีที่แล้ว +1427

    alternate title: Obsessive Weeb wastes 9 Hours Looking at Anime Backgrounds
    *CORECTION: Skip to **21:21** to skip DBS Manga stuff*
    *shoutout to Canadian Lad for the title inspiritation! (Technincally I watched the movie at .16x speed so it was even SLOWER lol)*

    • @Tankana_07
      @Tankana_07 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I always watch Canadian Lad's video

    • @FafooYt
      @FafooYt ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Everyone in this chat is an Anime Weeb
      And I love it

    • @pulsestar1053
      @pulsestar1053 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Haha its nice seeing you taking ideas from another great youtuber

    • @cheeseracs4477
      @cheeseracs4477 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah those 9 hours weren't wasted now you can get an extra 100 buck or two from this lmao.

    • @robertpalomera6409
      @robertpalomera6409 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hmm

  • @someBODY1s2ldMe
    @someBODY1s2ldMe ปีที่แล้ว +603

    6:14 The way the Trunks vs Frieza fight happens in just a matter of seconds is probably the most accurate and the most amazing scene I've ever seen considering it's from a human perspective.

    • @InueShizaki
      @InueShizaki ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You can feel the speed of how he slashes Frieza and blows him up, that's a really nice detail

    • @MagicCardboardBox
      @MagicCardboardBox ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Was gonna comment the same thing, the scene in the anime takes minutes, here, seconds. It's great

    • @TheRealMagicMan
      @TheRealMagicMan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      looks sick

    • @ruks-yl4ut
      @ruks-yl4ut ปีที่แล้ว +7

      have you seen goku VS freezer but its actually 5 mins? thats pretty good

    • @detectiveplays
      @detectiveplays 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Honestly shouldve been faster but it had to be slowed down so.we could see it

  • @israelwoodard770
    @israelwoodard770 ปีที่แล้ว +1133

    I like to think Goku smiled at the end because he was proud of how strong his friend got

    • @CornBreadtm1
      @CornBreadtm1 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Goku just wants a good fight.

    • @robbiemedica2652
      @robbiemedica2652 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Was going to say exactly this.

    • @imsusanov2287
      @imsusanov2287 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Goku smiles even when he gets destroyed, He smiled against frieza on namek when he was in base, He smiled against beerus, He smiled against cell

    • @briansanders5742
      @briansanders5742 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think maybe he was kinda of holding back now as I finished this video run through

    • @BickNutton
      @BickNutton ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@briansanders5742 It isn't very like Goku to lose just to boost someones ego. Sure he holds back to do that, but he doesn't usually take an L

  • @priestesslucy
    @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +713

    23:00
    I just saw that smile as Goku having had fun with the fight and glad to see Vegeta growing into an even better rival to keep pushing him forward.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  ปีที่แล้ว +108

      You can take it whatever way you want!

    • @ImTheMan0fSteel
      @ImTheMan0fSteel ปีที่แล้ว +61

      ​​​@@CarthusDojo dude, it is not remotely in character for goku to let vegeta win in this context. He was enjoying himself, he was having fun, they both were. Why would he let vegeta win when its been made clear hes whooped vegetas ass numerous times in training?
      You make a lot of insane assumptions based on nothing. "its not sure why the needed the gammas". Dude, we watched the same fight. Peope would have died without their intervention. did you miss gamma sacrificing himself?
      Sure, gohan may have went beast regardless, buuuut people would probs be dead. Like its just basic "thanks for the help guys, that was tough" diolague. Doesnt imply some sort of power scale or something. Neither does his comment about goku and vegeta. All that says is, gohan beast is stronger than goku and Vegeta, nothing else to gleem from it one way or the other.
      You think about this stuff 10x more than anyone on the writing staff lol. This is dragon ball, not breaking bad.

    • @Domi984
      @Domi984 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@ImTheMan0fSteel if u don't agree with his opinions then just don't watch them then😐

    • @EliasCoptere
      @EliasCoptere ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@ImTheMan0fSteel Dragon Ball "fan" getting mad at someone for interpreting something

    • @sazerae
      @sazerae ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@ImTheMan0fSteel average dbs fan

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I like the implication that Piccolo throws off his weighted clothes just to be dramatic.

  • @aligamer5947
    @aligamer5947 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    14:18
    the animator knew what they were doing💀

    • @shahzaibsaleh8908
      @shahzaibsaleh8908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Facts😂😂

    • @Itsmecamden
      @Itsmecamden 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      fr 😂😂😂

    • @italianduded1161
      @italianduded1161 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yup😂
      Same in the Broly movie with Cheelai 😁👍

    • @NPCLEVELTHREAT
      @NPCLEVELTHREAT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@italianduded1161 Shes mid

    • @kingoftherevolution4855
      @kingoftherevolution4855 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And the guy making this video.

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT ปีที่แล้ว +1011

    The MCU has The Canadian Lad… Dragon Ball has Carthu’s Dojo!

  • @infinitesheldon5710
    @infinitesheldon5710 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    I love that Gohan can't catch small stuff being thrown at him, since he's not wearing his glasses for those moments.

    • @Kai_zen
      @Kai_zen ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Also a hint to that when Piccolo mentions that when they goes Super saiyan their eyesight is restored, on top of other little improvements?

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kai_zen yep

  • @smeltstarverse7306
    @smeltstarverse7306 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    19:49
    Cell Max isn't only a reference to past Dragon Ball material! The earlier shot of his tail thrashing around in the water is a reference to Shin Godzilla's first form, which is only ever seen as a tail thrashing around out of the water, and the shot where he launches all the purple lasers from his back is reminiscent of a climactic action setpiece from that movie where the titular kaiju wipes out a fleet of bomber planes in a similar manner, down to what I believe to be the same exact laser firing sound effects first used for Destoroyah's micro-oxygen beams in Godzilla vs Destoroyah. In fact, Cell Max's tail being an asymmetrical mass of laser-firing orifices could also be a Shin Godzilla reference, although since it's not a literal secondary/spare head on the end of his tail I personally have less faith in this one.

    • @arandomstarter119
      @arandomstarter119 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Finally someone else saw it

    • @TRussell148
      @TRussell148 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Finally someone else mentioned it! I noticed the reference immediately but I haven't seen anyone else talking about it and was going to make the comment you made here.

    • @Burningziller
      @Burningziller ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ayeeee we got a Godzilla fan here

    • @ONoah244
      @ONoah244 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Burningziller yeaahhhh

    • @patrickbasedman8532
      @patrickbasedman8532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah i noticed it too!

  • @Our_Remedy
    @Our_Remedy ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I honestly love how Piccolo is portrayed as a weirdo in how he uses the phone or scratches the window to get Gohand attention.

  • @quinton1630
    @quinton1630 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    16:07 I laughed so hard when they showed Frieza just casually spinning in a circle in the movie. “Is he always up there, just spinning around?”

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He needs SOME way to "Stir" th thoughts =)

    • @darkwolf8915
      @darkwolf8915 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet some one is going to play the human song or something over this

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​Doot doot doot.
      Doot doot doot.
      "Human music. I like it!"

    • @FlareMan133
      @FlareMan133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Looks like a shitpost or that spinning seal meme

  • @SunDragon243
    @SunDragon243 ปีที่แล้ว +3457

    The unspoken rizz of krillin is unmatched

    • @supersonic2175
      @supersonic2175 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      Krizzlin

    • @Trap5656
      @Trap5656 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      And by two people as well. 🤔

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      Shorties like Krillin and General Red pulling the baddest bitches somehow🤣

    • @thefireman1233
      @thefireman1233 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Bro is definitely at least 9 inches

    • @mylessmith9758
      @mylessmith9758 ปีที่แล้ว

      He really got the baddest mtf just by existing.

  • @Goatcha_M
    @Goatcha_M ปีที่แล้ว +2273

    The meditation thing is definitely the biggest fail in the movie, they completely swapped Goku and Vegeta's personalities for that. Goku is as you say, the one who understands the value of Meditation, honing the mind in addition to the body. Vegeta is the impatient one who thinks you can only get stronger by battle and stress.

    • @josuke5966
      @josuke5966 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Completely, it makes me so mad.

    • @zawardoll
      @zawardoll ปีที่แล้ว +101

      I think Goku just meditates as a form of clearing his mind, not necessarily training. He uses it to center himself, but for Vegeta to call it training is where Goku has issues, and we see at the beginning of Super he does image training while moving.

    • @Goatcha_M
      @Goatcha_M ปีที่แล้ว +213

      @@zawardoll King Kai specifically says in the Buu ark that Goku finished his physical training a week ago and now is honing his mind with intense meditation.
      Roshi tried to teach Goku and Krillin about it, he emphasised a balance of training and rest as optimum and that stuck but it was Popo who actually drilled meditation into him successfully.

    • @guywithnohouse.6808
      @guywithnohouse.6808 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Goatcha_M Meditating is not training, it's a way to be mindful and contemplate and assimilate and disperse stuff in your mind, even in real life people consider it a way to calm one's self and not to train, and aside from that, literally it makes more sense that vegeta thinks it's training because this vegeta is literally taken right after the granola arc, meaning that for one, he obviously did spirit control training and there was a lot of ki control with your eyes closed, so that means that for him he might just be focusing on controlling ki and goku doesn't get that, or for seconds he thinks it's training because that's what he's been put through then and doesn't think of meditating as to clear one's mind.
      So no, king kai never specifically says that he's training by meditating, training and honing are two different things after all, honing works closer to sharper as a synonim and training works closer to repeated movements as synonim, so careful with the english in that case.

    • @guywithnohouse.6808
      @guywithnohouse.6808 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@josuke5966 I will fight anyone in the comments that says this one thing one more time, it makes so much sense if you think about it in an open minded way and have actually meditated for once in your life time, dragon ball is still at base, an anime about martial arts, martial artists don't use meditating as a way to intensely focus the mind, but instead get the mind loose and clearing all the unnecesarry thoughts, so failure, or not being good enough, or needing to be better, it's basically decompressing the mind and body by staying extremely still and letting all of those worries, all of the progress, be assimilated in a way in which you won't have to think twice about remembering it, it's a journey with yourself, in the way that meditating isn't done because it's training, but instead, it's done because you want to do it, it's nice to do it, it shouldn't be a bother to do it, you're getting into it not because you need to do it constantly, but because by doing it when your mind is plagued with thoughts, you can order yourself, it's not a way of training, it's a literal way of calming down, if calming down is training, then I swear to god I have been doing maths for nothing, I have been improving at games for nothing, I have been trying to adapt philosophical ideals and turning them into wisdom for nothing, instead of calling it like that, because the only reffrence to meditating that you have is unironically dragon ball, maybe try to actually figure out what the source material is actually taking from, because all that goku does? all that vegeta does? all that training on kami's lookout in db? that's all taken basically taken from the fact that bruce lee exists, and many other chinese traditions and karateka philosophies have been adopted into the db world, ultra instinct is literally called "flow state" in our world, in which you basically don't have to actively word out a thing in your mind that your body wants to do, so it's like doing a kick by just sorta feeling like doing a kick, or doing a punch because you sorta feel like it, literally that is it, it's not actually a "dodge" automatically button or hit without thinking button, it's doing everything that you learned, and here comes the quote "man is a thinking reed" and turning it into pure intuitiveness, so not having to think about doing combos, not having to think twice about what dodging is, not needing to think that you're not gonna be able to dodge because that's the only thing you're focused about, so this is where I end this off, good luck in your research

  • @doctornoahphd1288
    @doctornoahphd1288 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    14:29 “Bulma is throwing a lot of things around”
    You’re telling me 💀

    • @FunnyDarkMan
      @FunnyDarkMan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      FRRR

    • @adityakrishnan3518
      @adityakrishnan3518 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I saw that an immediately came to check comments lol😂

    • @FlareMan133
      @FlareMan133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thought the same thing a year later

    • @jroth1407
      @jroth1407 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why does bulma have a bbl

    • @Waterbottle116
      @Waterbottle116 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jroth1407every human does-

  • @Karma-dy8xc
    @Karma-dy8xc ปีที่แล้ว +41

    16 minutes into the video, you have such an insane eye and most of the stuff you point out are things I've never considered when watching
    i respect the 9 hr grind

  • @Raddflyer
    @Raddflyer ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Little disappointed you mentioned Gohan dropping the sensu (like the potara earing) .... However didn't connect it to. -Gohan doesn't need his glasses when he goes SSJ, he takes them off before he transforms. Given, each time he misses catching objects, he's in his base form.

  • @priestesslucy
    @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +80

    17:08 I mean... If someone kidnapped your daughter would you give a damn if they died?
    Gohan's not going out of his way to kill them, but yeah, he has no fucks to give at this point

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Didn't say I blamed him LOL just interesting to note that's how angry he is.

  • @babyjae7316
    @babyjae7316 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    carthu thought he was slick saying bulma was throwing a lot around😂

    • @diebyty878
      @diebyty878 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      so glad i wasnt the only one who caught that

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I must've missed one of the objects she threw because I don't get it. If it's supposed to be a slick way to refer to the butt shot, I still don't get it.

    • @megaman9393
      @megaman9393 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikeexits”Throwing it” and variations of that phrase are common slang terms for butt-shaking.

  • @AtenSol12
    @AtenSol12 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    id think that with so much experience piccolo probably sees flight as a more useful base skill than ki blasts. as a situation where pan can otherwise fly away even a short distance might keep her safer than her attempting to fight.

    • @Jerry11201
      @Jerry11201 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      the first thing videl was obsessed with was flying. that's how her parent's relationship began to blossom.

    • @peterperez2511
      @peterperez2511 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe it's because namekians were taught flight before ki blasts (like dende)

    • @nivnavion
      @nivnavion ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Jerry11201 That's actually a really cool detail I didn't notice. Like mother like daughter, I suppose.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Jerry11201The 2nd half of your comment confuses me. Was Videl's mother ever shown or mentioned? How did flying deepen her relationship with her parents?

    • @commandercommando5527
      @commandercommando5527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something interesting about this is that we seen before goku use ki to project himself instead of flying like the feet kamehame as a known example another example is goku kamehameha against demon king piccolo so i guess piccolo statement is sort of weird

  • @nimrodshachar2773
    @nimrodshachar2773 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:18 "unnamed hero"? That is the majestic cleangod.

  • @AkaObbies
    @AkaObbies ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The manga has actually fixed Goku outright saying meditation isn't training at all. He instead questions why Vegeta is meditating out of all people and Vegeta says meditation is the key to conserving energy and their physical ability has peaked.
    It is still odd that he explains it does this by relaxing before attacks, as if Goku wouldn't learn this from before.

  • @zawardoll
    @zawardoll ปีที่แล้ว +264

    A few things, the Roshi students who learned Ki blasts before Flight were trained by someone who specifically chooses not to fly. While it makes sense that there was a different drone for Cell, I also believe if the drone leaves when the fighting ends, which explains why they have Vegeta in his Baman shirt, with Goku in a Gi instead of the Yardrat clothes and Gero has not yet seen Trunks here, it's possible that Gero doesn't know Super Saiyan is what it is and by the time he can put it all together it's too late.

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Another point worth noting: Dende already knew how to fly but is never implied to have learned how to shoot ki blasts.
      Flight First might just be the Namekian Way
      For all we know Piccolo might have taught Gohan flight first too.

    • @pedrodiaz2855
      @pedrodiaz2855 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought pans short just said goth lol. But this makes more sense as I also didn’t don’t bout videls name

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The real answer here is that in the beginning of Dragonball Toriyama did not intend on having people fly... that's why Goku gets the flying nimbus which only the pure of heart can ride and why Mercenary Tao throws a tree and jumps on it to get around... the whole point was to limit people from flying because it takes away from the story telling and makes the world a smaller place... even after Goku reveals that he can fly in the 23rd tournament he barely ever uses the ability again until he's on his way to fight Vegeta and Nappa...

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@reptilian_geneticist in part because he's not very good at flight at that point. Prior to his death, Goku's personal flight is slower than the Nimbus.
      It makes sense, when has he ever really needed flight?

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@priestesslucy again, the REAL reason is that flying makes everything too easy and simple and shrinks the world and halters story telling... Just like Instant transmission (that's why everyone doesn't have it) or think about cell phones in modern movies, they completely ruin story telling...

  • @SteamMau5
    @SteamMau5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    The text that "Hero" is written in (5:22) along with the text that "Villain" is written in (not shown) also references the original Dragon Ball anime opening logo!

  • @Kashio2007
    @Kashio2007 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    "Unspoken rizz of Dr Gero is unmatched " brilliant line😂

  • @JesterDragon8743
    @JesterDragon8743 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    22:14, I'm a bit late to this, but it reminded me more of the kick Gohan did against Cell that ultimately led to him losing Android 18. In that scene, Cell gets frustrated and grows larger simply to increase his power

  • @KitKatThatAnimates
    @KitKatThatAnimates 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The dedication to look for these references is very awesome it was nice seeing some of these in the theaters when spotted especially during Gohan vs Cell max when he did that uppercut

  • @registered_idiot
    @registered_idiot ปีที่แล้ว +91

    “Bulma is throwing a lot of things around.”
    Indeed she is.

    • @bradyclark9419
      @bradyclark9419 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @AlexHarrisJR1
      @AlexHarrisJR1 ปีที่แล้ว

      😳😳😳

    • @djguerrero3712
      @djguerrero3712 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      14:19

    • @bryanaviles7785
      @bryanaviles7785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was looking for this exact comment before I made it myself 🤣🤣

    • @bomanisntsad
      @bomanisntsad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bryanaviles7785 bro i do the same thing all the time and this was no exception

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    *"The unspoken riz of Gero is clearly unmatched."*
    - Carthu's Dojo

  • @DokkanAssets
    @DokkanAssets ปีที่แล้ว +99

    You've opened my eyes Carthu. I've always want to figure out how to absorb MORE Super Hero content. Just make the movie longer! Genius! Thank you.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      If I make the movie longer I have more movie to cover. It's simple

    • @M4nUThr0n
      @M4nUThr0n ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The chad is here🥶

    • @DokkanAssets
      @DokkanAssets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@CarthusDojo Big brain. 😤

    • @RandoSmack
      @RandoSmack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@CarthusDojo Okay then.
      Can we please get an explanation about the *beast form?*
      Because I'm tired of these people saying "OH IT'S JUST PART OF THE SUPER SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION."
      Other person: "NO MAN, IT'S THE EVOLVED FORM OF POTENTIAL UNLEASH."
      Another person...: "NO YOU DUMMIES, IT'S PART OF *CHI-CHI'S DNA* THAT MADE HIM GO BEAST MODE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!"
      No, no, no, you ignorant idiots. (Except for the second person idea).
      People so trapped in how this form came to existence, and I'm so irritated or frustrated about it. It's getting on my nerves.
      That's why I ask for you. Because you got *a lot of brains* (or maybe some, idk)😅.
      But despite that I would be grateful if you did do that, so thank you.😊

  • @youtubefire_5263
    @youtubefire_5263 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "The unspoken rizz of Doctor Gero is clearly unmatched" is by far the best line I've ever heard from this channel🤣 3:18

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    14:28
    "Inside the building, Bulma is throwing a lot of things around."
    She sure is, Carthu. She sure is. xD

    • @gameruchiha6319
      @gameruchiha6319 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bro watched it almost 10x slower too lol 😆

    • @Aaronx720
      @Aaronx720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Broly smash

  • @gameraj_YT
    @gameraj_YT ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Idc what anyone says, im in love with the cgi style for this movie, i love the look of the film, the fight choreography, its just so underrated

    • @jantheking7028
      @jantheking7028 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The CGI style is truly great, maybe some of the best CGI in anime EVER. However, most fans prefer 2D just because it fits dragon ball more. Plus, the CGI isn't worth it tbh, its so expensive. The budget for this movie was around 35 million due to the CGI while the Budget for Broly was only around 10 million.

    • @GokuSolosAnime
      @GokuSolosAnime ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2D better

    • @KaiKrimson56
      @KaiKrimson56 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly, aside from some close-ups with Piccolo, the CGI artstyle was so well done, I kept forgetting it wasn't actually 3D.

    • @artsmart_5805
      @artsmart_5805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I can't deny that the cgi does look great but 2d is just preferred over it

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jantheking7028lmao no way

  • @StarDust234
    @StarDust234 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    thank you for taking the time out of your life to show us all of these secrets

  • @rim4597
    @rim4597 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I think the reason piccolo wanted pan to master flying before ki blasts is because he wanted pan to be able to doge before attacking

    • @melissamonroe9021
      @melissamonroe9021 ปีที่แล้ว

      No your mission is to dogge

    • @marcusbiggs3971
      @marcusbiggs3971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good catch, glad piccolo didnt teach gohan to dodge first before strike, gohan and videl wouldn't got marry.

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pan: Much Zoom, Very Wow

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DODGE

  • @quatromanthefourth4413
    @quatromanthefourth4413 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:27 "Bulma is throwing alot of things around" 🔥🔥🔥

  • @TheLeviathanYT
    @TheLeviathanYT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Bulma is throwing a lot of things around"
    Me:yeah, and that cake-

  • @ninetailedara3802
    @ninetailedara3802 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Don't see why people could dislike this movie. Such a gem with the hidden details, thanks Carthu.

    • @Blizz247
      @Blizz247 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well not everyone universally likes 1 thing

    • @Soul.Resonant
      @Soul.Resonant ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Blizz247 I think everyone likes sitting

    • @Gytiss93
      @Gytiss93 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Soul.Resonant for sure not

    • @sydneyowusu3750
      @sydneyowusu3750 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Blizz247 facts

    • @genesismultiverse4896
      @genesismultiverse4896 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Goku parts I say

  • @nicholaskling2425
    @nicholaskling2425 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think Goku’s smile at the end is just a reference to Goku always enjoying fighting/meeting stronger people. So Vegeta beating him here is just giving him more motivation to get stronger

  • @Popeyes_Eater
    @Popeyes_Eater ปีที่แล้ว +16

    10:06
    Who else is imagining stepping on an ant pile and the lone survivor turns Super Saiyan and proceeds to whoop your ass. Just me? Ok.

    • @Toxic01010
      @Toxic01010 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even if they were 50 times stronger they couldn't whoop you

  • @Dontdoit_
    @Dontdoit_ ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think people need to recognize the genius of Toriyama after this. They say he always forgets stuff but he worked on this movie for 4 years and even if he had assistance I’m sure he came up with most of the ideas and references

    • @daboy5256
      @daboy5256 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s literally a remake of the original like a fan made manga made canon I could’ve done better

    • @Xertuce
      @Xertuce 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You guys are never happy...

    • @theonlyone-l7y
      @theonlyone-l7y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@daboy5256 it is???

  • @LightBringer666
    @LightBringer666 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    i don't think Goku's smile at the end is meant to be sly, it's just him being the happy go lucky goku who doesn't get mad over losing. he was chill when he lost to Tenshinhan, he wanted to fight vegeta again and spared him with a smile on his face when asking krillin, he smiled when giving up against cell, and when he lost to beerus. those are just examples that come to mind in the moment, i'm sure there's more

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm pretty sure he was smiling at various points when fighting Kid Buu as well, despite everything that happened and everything that was still at stake. Not another example of him smiling when losing, but rather another example of Goku smiling in spite of being faced with realities that would prevent almost anyone else from smiling.

  • @rosalyndt85
    @rosalyndt85 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I wonder if the reason why Gamma 1 and 2 don't have infinite energy like 17 and 18 is because 17 and 18 are cyborgs and not full robots, but you could also say that Dr.Gero just had a smarter way of making androids

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Or Hedo was just pioneering new technology rather than directly iterating on his grandfather's work.
      We know how strong Android 17 has become, but Hedo doesn't and even with how strong 17 is, the Gammas are stronger.

  • @AnInsaneOstrich
    @AnInsaneOstrich ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like Piccolo didn't want to teach Pan ki blasts yet as she is an excitable 4 year old, and he wanted to make sure she had the discipline to not immediately blast everything in sight. So he wasn't saying "you can only learn ki blasts after you can fly" and more "I won't teach you ki blasts until you prove to me you can control both ki, and yourself."

  • @anthonyvincent4073
    @anthonyvincent4073 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fun fact: Android 18 here looks super similar to that of her GT Counterpart! 18:52

  • @hugotharador4898
    @hugotharador4898 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The amount of easter eggs from the manga and other stuff from DB is amazing. It would be neat if when we got more movies (because let's face it, we will) we got more easter eggs, eventually having all of the iconic moments in DB being contained in movies, but yes this would take a few movies to fulfill. Also hopefully more movies would offer more room for answering unanswered questions, and rectifying slight errors.

  • @mugswrld
    @mugswrld ปีที่แล้ว +44

    14:28 bulma was def throwing a lot of things around

    • @Lambent_Omega
      @Lambent_Omega ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The modelers and animators know what's up 😩

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The shot wasn't the only thing wide there

    • @Jobroski47
      @Jobroski47 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "To 90 to 180 this angle is obtuse it's kinda fat it's gotta big caboose"

    • @lorenzorafael4600
      @lorenzorafael4600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lambent_Omega 🤨📸

    • @Lambent_Omega
      @Lambent_Omega ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Lorenzo Rafael Nah bro they had a whole buttdget for that scene

  • @ThatBoiDarius_
    @ThatBoiDarius_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Carthu coming through with the upload on my birthday can’t wait to watch it!

  • @jicobfromstreets
    @jicobfromstreets ปีที่แล้ว +11

    19:49 Cell Max's huge laser attack is a reference to Shin Godzilla which was a huge hit in Japan.

  • @GimmeMyHandleBack
    @GimmeMyHandleBack ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotenks’ hair is probably because trunks’ hair is dyed artificially

  • @CrownedGaming
    @CrownedGaming 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This makes you appreciate all the effort put into these movies so much more lol. Thanks!

  • @maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336
    @maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is also a Easter egg when Gamma 1 fired a laser shot at SSJ Gohan. The way Gamma 1 was posed was the same as SSG Vegeta’s pose when he fired a KI blast at base Broly in an effort to kill him, and said “What a waste.”

  • @astralmaster
    @astralmaster ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another small detail I noticed about Goten and Trunks fusing is that in the poster for the movie, their fingers also don't match up perfectly, hinting that they would fall the fusion.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really wanted to see properly fused adult Gotenks for at least a moment. We'll probably finally see it in canon for the first time either in the next movie or when DBS continues.

  • @matthewanthonisen819
    @matthewanthonisen819 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also in the English dub during Gohan’s transformation into beast they overlap his scream with Teen Gohan’s scream when he transforms into SSJ2. Super cool detail

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The height thing is something I will finally choose to defend. It's true that Goku, Gohan, and Trunks all grew slowly, but let's not forget some key details. Gohan was still short in the Cell saga, then the time skip had him grow much taller. Goku also had a similar instance in the 3 year time skip before fighting our current Piccolo. Trunks is a bit more difficult in terms of explanation, but remember, he is the son of Vegeta and Bulma: neither of them are that tall to begin with. However, it should be noted that Vegeta was only ever seen as a kid's height, and then we later see his adult form at max height.
    I believe that Trunks' growth being different to present Trunks is largely due to the way he had to live his life in the future, similar to how Future Gohan is more buff than our own. The appearance itself signifies a great stress that they went through as opposed to the power they are gaining. Proof of this would be how Gohan vs Kibito would still be much stronger than future Gohan despite being out of practice. This can also explain the buff aspects of the main 4 Saiyans in the Cell saga, seeing as the Room of Spirit and Time was regarded as a really strenous and dangerous training method.

  • @ViolNinj156
    @ViolNinj156 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At 20:06 when you mentioned that Trunk’s hair goes from blue to purple when fusing into gotenks, I took this as a reference to the fact that Bulma dyes her hair blue, since it’s actually that lavender color z Trunks had in the manga. Leaving me to believe that Trunks also dyes his hair blue.

  • @grandcaptainspeedydash
    @grandcaptainspeedydash ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It really shows that they took their time to make as many references as possible, though it might of been better with less story point references.

    • @darkman452
      @darkman452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They only care about nostalgia bait and that’s all

    • @DerAltruist
      @DerAltruist ปีที่แล้ว

      *might have

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another 10 out of 10 Dragonball content from one of the arguably best Dragonball TH-camr ever. Thank you for making my Saturday worth mentally enduring.

  • @apersonwhoexists3383
    @apersonwhoexists3383 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fun fact: When Piccolo nearly gets killed by Cell max, he seems to turn into and out of his potential unleashed form. This could just be lighting but it also might be how he was trying to alarm Gohan of how severe the situation was while trying not to let Cell max actually kill him.

  • @lancealbertdp98
    @lancealbertdp98 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    picolo just uses his “CLOTHES BEAM” when he feels like it

  • @kamron4814
    @kamron4814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:13 I’m watching this for the 5th time I think and bro you’re literally right there in the picture, it’s you’re exact avatar and it shows you as a fan this is awesome and in my opinion a nod towards the fans buddy, I can’t believe you didn’t mention it

  • @priestesslucy
    @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +48

    15:20
    There's a big difference here Carthu.
    Piccolo received Nail's memories as a data dump, a simple download as he assimilated Nail.
    Kami is different. Kami is Piccolo and Piccolo is Kami. Everything Kami and Piccolo experienced are the current Piccolo's actual personal memories

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The assimilation process was the same though and the memories were a "data dump" in both. Still doesn't explain Dende so the scene is just an oversight in the script. No need to look for a deeper answer.

    • @priestesslucy
      @priestesslucy ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@CarthusDojo I would argue that although the method (Namekian Fusion) was the same, the process was very different.
      Piccolo and Kami are two parts of the same whole reuniting. It's not one person fusing another, it's recompiling your being to its complete state.
      Nail was someone else Piccolo just scooped up. Meanwhile Kami was Piccolo

  • @DrakebIood
    @DrakebIood ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The part where Beerus thought Chelai was cute is one of the funnier parts for me, mostly because Whis clarifies Beerus has a type, which I of course assumed to be cute aliens with white hair. (not too unlike some attendant we know!)

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lord Beerus?! 😳😳

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beerus has good taste.

  • @emperortoho
    @emperortoho ปีที่แล้ว +12

    17:41 I think this is because the gammas are completely mechanical, whereas as far as I can tell androids 17 and 18 are hardly mechanical at all(keep in mind that the original term for android in japanese db translates more similarly to artificial human, so not all androids are completely mechanical or even close)

    • @Hamzurger
      @Hamzurger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Android 17 and 18 are cyborgs, and android 16 and the gammas are completely mechanical

  • @wolfgod6443
    @wolfgod6443 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another thing to note about Hachimaru. At least in the dub, he's specifically a normal bee turned into a machine. So it's an android level bee. Between him and the super saiy-ants, I think Cell is gonna have some competition as the ultimate bugman. I also find it hilarious that Hedo makes a speech about how he's going to take Magenta's money and run off after Hachimaru stings the guy. It's not too far off from Colonel Violet taking all of Red's money as his empire falls in the original series. Poor Magenta died as he lived, getting robbed by those close to him.

  • @theat3show
    @theat3show ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:22 i think that is goten in the background because in the manga he is also a big fan of clean god

  • @elikaiquinn3393
    @elikaiquinn3393 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    22:06 in Beast gohans transformation you can also hear kid gohans scream when he transforms

  • @Chaikiwon
    @Chaikiwon ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love watching your DB Videos! It is so calming and just in general a fun video to watch! Awesome upload Carthu! 😀

  • @Vegetafan756
    @Vegetafan756 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:48 The title “Super Ants 001” isn’t him naming them in ascensions like Super Saiyan, it’s just a standard way of labeling which pages are which in the margins of professional papers so that it is easy to print and organize them.

  • @ihonestlydontcare4464
    @ihonestlydontcare4464 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In the dub its stated that Gamma 2's kick weakened Cell enough for them to beat him, which means without 2's sacrifice even beast might not have been enough to beat Cell Max

    • @FernandoBenitez-ht7uq
      @FernandoBenitez-ht7uq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's also said in the japanese version, odd he missed that detail

  • @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190
    @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how they're exploring story and lore deeper... Its the same plot style but I love Akira Toriyama for trying to fix plot holes and backgrounds of our favorite villains ❤😊

  • @ehsanulalam4541
    @ehsanulalam4541 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Orange piccolo:symbolism of how piccolo has grown over the decades.
    Beast Gohan:I ma pull something out of my ass and it is gonna work

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Legit funny how the movie would have been better if they kept it a piccolo movie

    • @malachithekiller3117
      @malachithekiller3117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where gonna act like Goku doesn’t do it all the time

    • @ehsanulalam4541
      @ehsanulalam4541 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@malachithekiller3117He does but we aren't talking about goku right now are we

  • @ytwhattup6128
    @ytwhattup6128 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    22:44 they didn't know about Cell's weakness without the heads-up from the gammas
    also gamma 2 probably heavily weakened cell with his sacrafice

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cell Max literally lost a hand I guarantee if it didn't get blown off the fight would've went much different

  • @Rio15421
    @Rio15421 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:20 didnt expect toei to even use stuff from db games (thats such a cool easter egg in my opinion)

  • @thecountercounter9127
    @thecountercounter9127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Piccolos clothes dissappearance ability means that he tosses away his clothes purely for entrance and swag purposes
    Respect to the drip

  • @Mang0rol
    @Mang0rol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing videos like these all the time man, i think we can all agree that it's worth the time.

  • @graysonholbrook3025
    @graysonholbrook3025 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The movie actually does explain the line with Piccolo claiming they never could have won without the Gammas' help. About a minute after Piccolo says that line, he approaches Gamma 1 and Dr. Hedo, who are mourning the loss of Gamma 2. In an attempt to console the pair Piccolo then says "Thanks to him, Cell's attack power dropped". This is in reference to Gamma 2's sacrificial charge that ripped off Cell Max's arm. Granted this is in the Sub version of the movie rather than the english dub so I'm not sure if there are differences.

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's in the English dub Carthu clearly didn't watch everything slowed down because how the heck did he miss a PIVOTAL MOMENT

    • @tacomeat5689
      @tacomeat5689 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, everyone acts like Gohan soloed when literally everyone attacked and weakened Cell. The Gotenks Volleyball cracked his skull, Gamma 1 obliterated his arm, Piccolo beat the crap out of him, and Gohan finished the job.

    • @artizzy2k2k
      @artizzy2k2k ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tacomeat5689 Gamma 2 obliterated his arm actually

    • @tacomeat5689
      @tacomeat5689 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@artizzy2k2k lmao yeah my bad, same diff. Also, Gohan had a senzu, while Piccolo and the Gammas were worn out

    • @3am_-
      @3am_- ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@tacomeat5689 and Cell Max was drained of his energy from beating the shit outta Piccolo. If piccolo had kept the senzu bean he would've killed Cell Max by himself. And Gohan had time to charge up his power

  • @omenxxg
    @omenxxg ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I admire the work you put into these videos thank you. Your editing style never bores me.

  • @gameover_477
    @gameover_477 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    17:30 I think its more of Piccolo riffing on how Gamma 2 said the same thing when they fought

  • @RealGalxy
    @RealGalxy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With the meditation thing I saw something that basically said that vegeta was trying to meditate and do things like jiren which was holding him back
    Which was shown in the fight because vegeta was being defensive through the whole fight while goku was being wild and was pushing vegeta back until the end where vegeta started being himself

  • @Leostar-Regalius
    @Leostar-Regalius ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the whole krillen reminding piccolo he could grow both made me mad and made me laugh because i always made a joke about him forgetting he could grow during parts that would've possibly benefitted from it

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worst part is he used it against 73

  • @mrwonka407
    @mrwonka407 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    22:15 This is most likely a reference to Gohan's kick to Perfect Cell that made him vomit #18.

    • @peak_jerma.
      @peak_jerma. ปีที่แล้ว

      wasn’t that a gut punch

    • @mrwonka407
      @mrwonka407 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peak_jerma. Gohan got a lot of hits on Cell. A gut punch, an uppercut, a kick in the face, a kick in the belly, a Kamehameha, another Kamehameha
      Gohan absolutely violated Cell after he obtained SSJ2 lmao

  • @manuelzelaya8973
    @manuelzelaya8973 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I find it so weird that semi perfect cell’s explosion could destroy a whole planet, but Cell Max’s explosion only got the entirety of the RR Base

  • @SunDragon243
    @SunDragon243 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro stole Canadian lad's whole flow😂

  • @Sleipher
    @Sleipher ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be fair Kami & Piccolo were originally the same person so It makes sense for Piccolo to inherit Kami's memories, and would explain why he doesn't have Nail's memories. The Universe 6 Namekians absorbed a whole bunch of Namekians for the fight and it makes sense they wouldn't get all their memories since they would probably be unable to fight due to memory overload.
    Also a fun idea. When Original Cell exploded the force was enough to destroy the planet. This is probably cause of when Cell was created Dr.Gero's plans for world domination were already ruined beyond repair. However when designing the new Cell Max the Idea was to create an enforcer that could potentially be mass-produced so the explosive power was probably scaled down to ensure he didn't destroy the whole planet since the Red Ribbon army could still rule it.

  • @finlayfin212
    @finlayfin212 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:24 i swear she’s also the researcher you find in bulma’s lab in dbz kakarot

    • @dbl_prodkai
      @dbl_prodkai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      she is

  • @Yosheta
    @Yosheta ปีที่แล้ว +8

    19:09 I thought the glasses she threw away were Gohan's.

  • @alexsheperd2060
    @alexsheperd2060 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly think Piccolo didn’t teach Pan Ki blasts yet was because she’s 3 and toddlers are prone to overreact so if she’s calm and focused enough to fly it’s safe to teach her Ki blasts

  • @brianreinboldjr
    @brianreinboldjr ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Bulma is throwing a lot of things around" I see what you did there 😏

    • @hybrid_editz
      @hybrid_editz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤨📸

    • @Popeyes_Eater
      @Popeyes_Eater ปีที่แล้ว

      She is packing that CAKE 🤤

    • @hybrid_editz
      @hybrid_editz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Popeyes_Eater AYO 📸🤨💀

  • @sagemoose6515
    @sagemoose6515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are a solider brother, you really spent 9 hours to bring us this video. 🙏

  • @0K_1_GU3SS
    @0K_1_GU3SS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alternative Title: Questioning whether Gohan’s family had to pay for their CC equipment

  • @vuxxx0
    @vuxxx0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's always a damn banger from carthu, keep up the good work.

  • @akbwastaken
    @akbwastaken ปีที่แล้ว +4

    21:40 THE LEGENDARY ANIMATOR (w/ Shintani)

  • @Emilia-tan_Manji_Tenshi
    @Emilia-tan_Manji_Tenshi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Pan’s flying is referenced to Videl’s first training with Gohan. She learnt to fly before ki blast as well.

    • @nivnavion
      @nivnavion ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is a really cool detail I had not noticed. Like mother like daughter I guess.

  • @luckymouse1988
    @luckymouse1988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To add a little bit to the 8 thing and Hachimaru, the spy drone created by Hedo.
    "Hachi" is also the word for bee or wasp, and "maru" is a common suffix added to a word to make a name out of it.
    It's a Wasp drone name "Waspy" with an 8 in its display because because "eight" sounds the same as "wasp" in Japanese.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much like Hacchan then, no?

    • @luckymouse1988
      @luckymouse1988 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samueloak1600 No clue, I'm not familiar with a character called hacchan.

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luckymouse1988 Android 8's nickname given by Gokū

  • @GraighSoul
    @GraighSoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:43 It is explained, after Gamma 1 fades away, Piccolo explains that his charge weakened Cell Max enough for the group to take on and win.

  • @Yosheta
    @Yosheta ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:41 Um... Remember that Toriyama made cameos of himself throughout the series? Well, maybe *he* took that photo.

  • @UnwantedGhost1
    @UnwantedGhost1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *"The unspoken riz of Commander Red is clearly unmatched."*
    - Gigachad Carthu's Dojo

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for liking my comments, by the way. 👍

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the small guys you gotta watch out for!

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TyshaggyGaming Yep, since big things comes in small packages.

  • @fordgtguy
    @fordgtguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't think Goku let Vegeta win but I think he was happy that Vegeta won.

  • @Thezahza
    @Thezahza ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun Fact: Cell Max might be referenced to the 2016 movie, shin Godzilla. A rogue kaiju that kept evolving but relied purely on instinct, such as cell max. The tail was also special instead of being a normal tail, like cell max that shot the purple energy from the tail, just like cell max. Cell max releasing it from his body was also just like it, except shin’s where from his back then full body. Shin also had a visible and obvious weak spot, just like cell max. They also didn’t know what would happen, had both of these monsters been continued to rampage.

  • @FrenchVorish
    @FrenchVorish ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That reminds me that Vegeta says that he finally defeated Goku at the end of the movie... while he never actually lost a single duel against Goku, at least in the Dragonball original manga.
    During the Saiyan arc, there was a team up against Vegeta, and Goku alone would have lost as soon as Vegeta turned into an Oozaru and they more or less never had a duel until the Majin Vegeta part... in wich Vegeta eventually tricked Goku to go fight Buu. Vegeta never actually lost a one on one fight against Goku.