As far as the question about not believing in a wrathful God...thats hard. I've been there. When I was younger God/religion was always used as a tool to scare or make you feel guilty about things. So growing up I'd see these people who just had all this love for him and would just smile ear to ear at the mention of his name and I couldn't understand why. How? I was terrified. So, as an adult I did some serious soul searching and praying and eventually figured out that is why I felt that way. So basically I had to UNLEARN all the things I was taught growing up. It was easier for me to do that picturing God as loving and never angry or wrathful, it was the God that I needed at the time to open the door in my heart to let him in. Soon after (and currently) I started reading my Bible and I realize that he IS a wrathful God WHEN ITS CALLED FOR but that it's never with out reason, and so far I've haven't read of a time when he was wrathful when he hasn't warned them atleast 3 times ahead of time to knock it off, and they didn't, so that that point can't you really feel sorry for them?
I’m glad that God is a God of wrath. God does not let Sin go unpunished, he does have a plan of forgiveness. It is Through his mercy he is patient with us. And he probably also gives us a sort of handicap because after all we are mere humans in a spiritual battle of epic proportion‘s. By the time God shows wrath humanity has been pushing him to the limits of his patience, you and I would also show wrath. And when we admit and accept that this is not our world our game our stage or anything like that, we begin to understand why he can do anything he wants at any time.
This is a wonderful act of generosity and faith by the pastors of Branch Church. You are truly coming to where the people are, spreading the good news. 🙏🏻 Thank you!
We don't have to understand everything...just need to do our best and be faithful in putting ourselves in a place where God can speak to us through his word when he wants to!
The third question is the hardest. I have always had a hard time seeing God as a vengeful God, sending wrath. I certainly believe that he leads with the heart and, what may seem like wrath, is actually a path of understanding and experience He's sending us through for a purpose we may never fully understand. I'm going to go back and listen to what Paul says in all three Chapters and see if my interpretation matches at all.
I know this is old but our FATHER IN HEAVEN is just that a father he loves his children and is saddened when he has to punish them trying to guide his children to the path but most ignoring or not listening and sin can not be in his presence 😔😢😢
Thank you Pastor Jared''for sharing the words of lord who gave us his son Jesus, that gave his life for us, and rose up in the third day..he is worthy to be praised..until tomorrow thats a lot of food to to feed a mult..a lot people..
Thank you Jared/branch together, you did a great Job. truly i did not understand what i was reading for my daily devotion. and it is really confusing for every word as you read. But because you explained it to human language, it becomes so easy. Kudos and God bless.
Thank you for your explanation. So good to be able to listen again. Understood most of it. I had to listen again. You have done an excellent teaching of GOD'S words 🙏 Thank you God bless
good morning''so when God showed his love for us..by giving his son jesus as a offering to us ..to show the love he ha for us..by dying on the cross as the first son to die..and to rise on the third day to show that defeated the devil...so we as follower's can be saved through Jesus ..Amen..i'm trying to understand...is this is all about..his love for us..
My answer to your last question is , i look at God as our earthly father, meaning when as a kid we did wrong my dad would get angry and punish but when we did right he was very slow to anger, same way with God , he love us so much , but when we turn away into sin he shows hes anger and wrath :)
Gods wrath and faithfulness is supposed to protect us as His children if we fall out of line the wrath of God is on our lives but then we repent acknowledge our sinful ways and our loving God will open His arms for us to come into him
I had written on my study journal-A bit foggy ,*Review This is after I stopped mid way to makesure The Holy Spirit was present.When you said ,Its a bit a complex that really helped.Your video has been quite helpful- will review with the knowledge acquired
Sometimes understanding the Scriptures is a complicated task. And you are right...the first step is asking the Holy Spirit to join us! Glad to see you seeking the Lord in His Word!
Correct me if I’m wrong but I feel mostly for the last two questions Jesus is the answer and actually for all three questions. If they question God’s faithfulness look at what Jesus did for us, and if you don’t believe in a wrathful God then again look at why Jesus sacrificed himself. To save us from God’s righteous judgement, to save us from the punishment of death for breaking his law.
To save us from punishment of God, we must follow the way of Jesus Christ, his only son. Therefore Jesus, through faith in Him, is the bridge between God and all humankind.
Glad I found your channel. Frankly, I still find this all confusing. Bible study feels more academic to me, as opposed to a spiritual experience. So I also find it deflating at the same time.
@@BranchTogether they are a mix of both. I am just saying my experience of these bible readings is more academic, than spiritual. I keep doing the daily readings but I also think I should be feeling some kind of spiritual change after them. But i don’t.
Thanks for the response. We believe the faithfulness of coming back to God's Word each day will eventually produce great spiritual fruit in your life. You may not feel like each experience is significant in itself, bit over to.e God is shaping you. And the videos also are intended to be a starting point, not a replacement for your time with God. Take some time to reread the chapter and quietly ask God to speak to you. Just keep putting yourself in a place expecting Him to speak to you and He will!
@@BranchTogether Its been my experience that faith and belief in God, the Father, and Holy Spirit is a mix of academic (the Word) and spiritual experience. I can easily get into a divine experience listening to a powerful song or listening to a motivational sermon. Yet, the Word is what sets the foundation for me and gives me knowledge (and sometimes confusion) and adds depth to my faith. You said it well that these videos are not a replacement for our time with God, just one more nugget or routine that helps us be in the Word. I know I struggle to keep God center stage as the day unfolds and I blend into the flesh and ways of the world. Yet, the more we're in the Word, pray, listen to uplifting music, be around other thirsty Christians, amazing transformation takes place. Thank you BT for making your videos available!
Thank you for sharing this wonderful bible reading. I have a question, what is exactly meant by the law here "for through the law comes the knowledge of sin."?
I believe it means that the law (the Bible) reveals our sin. For me personally, when I read the Bible & grasp how Jesus really wants me to act, I think “wow, I really am a sinner” I don’t let this bring me down, I just thank God for him!!
NLT version says "The law simply shows us how sinful we are." My interpretation is that if God doesn't set out the laws of e.g "Thou shalt not steal", we wouldn't know that stealing is a sin. Therefore, the law shows us the parameters of sin/wickedness, hence through the law we know how sinful we are! What do other people think? :)
@@nethinimwong no one can ever made right with God by doing the law. I don't really get the NLT bible when it says the law simply shows us how sinful we are. What law that makes us sinful?
@@turontan09 Romans 7:20 "Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin." I think what Paul was saying was that the law (e.g. ten commandments) tells us what things are sinful (e.g. stealing, killing, etc.) Because we are sinful human beings, we only know what sin is when we refer back to the law. However, as Paul continues to write in the later chapters of Romans, even though we continue to sin by falling short of and disobeying the law, our sins are completely forgiven because Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice! Basically, we know what our sins are and when we sin because the law tells us which things count as sin. I think a further examination of Romans 7 would clarify things a lot more!! God bless!
@@turontan09 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. Romans 7:7-20
@@nethinimwong thanks! I just wonder why he did not mention about those laws that points out to our sins and he did not even give an example of those laws. And that made me really confuse of what law that was not made void as mention in verse 31.
Life is in the blood - to be carnal minded is death Jesus preached truth whilst in a body of flesh and blood, but jesus denied to himself of the flesh, the carnal mind.... so by his blood alone, which has the life of the father in it, we are saved by the works of the father doing his work through him, and because he spoke against what they believe, they killed him. Jesus is the lamb of God that sacrificed himself for the father.... He was already with the Father in all his glory, and sacrificed that time when he chose to take on being crucified to the flesh of a man, and leave the light of the father knowing he was to also face a horrific death at the end.... but knew he would return.
I think God is love and wrathful. Someone who can’t accept the wrath of God, in my mind, can’t seem to understand the concept of hell. He created it, did He not? For what purpose did He create it? Ultimately, I believe we are saved from Gods wrath (His Holiness).
My only question is if God wanted to destroy us but Jesus proposed the idea of the sacrifice. I think they both planned this but others disagree. Also anyone who says they can't accept a god of wrath sound foolish. It doesn't matter what you accept because there's only 1 fundamental truth. I can't accept that the DMV is slow and lame but that's reality.
As far as the question about not believing in a wrathful God...thats hard. I've been there. When I was younger God/religion was always used as a tool to scare or make you feel guilty about things. So growing up I'd see these people who just had all this love for him and would just smile ear to ear at the mention of his name and I couldn't understand why. How? I was terrified. So, as an adult I did some serious soul searching and praying and eventually figured out that is why I felt that way. So basically I had to UNLEARN all the things I was taught growing up. It was easier for me to do that picturing God as loving and never angry or wrathful, it was the God that I needed at the time to open the door in my heart to let him in. Soon after (and currently) I started reading my Bible and I realize that he IS a wrathful God WHEN ITS CALLED FOR but that it's never with out reason, and so far I've haven't read of a time when he was wrathful when he hasn't warned them atleast 3 times ahead of time to knock it off, and they didn't, so that that point can't you really feel sorry for them?
Thank-you.
I’m glad that God is a God of wrath. God does not let Sin go unpunished, he does have a plan of forgiveness. It is Through his mercy he is patient with us. And he probably also gives us a sort of handicap because after all we are mere humans in a spiritual battle of epic proportion‘s. By the time God shows wrath humanity has been pushing him to the limits of his patience, you and I would also show wrath. And when we admit and accept that this is not our world our game our stage or anything like that, we begin to understand why he can do anything he wants at any time.
This is a wonderful act of generosity and faith by the pastors of Branch Church. You are truly coming to where the people are, spreading the good news. 🙏🏻 Thank you!
Thank you.
Glory to God for this video was used for HIS purpose. Thank you as well for this video, for those who were used for it to be possible.
Whoa ... going to have to watch this one again. Lots to take in. Not sure I got it all this first time. Thanks for the opportunity to do that!
Chris
We don't have to understand everything...just need to do our best and be faithful in putting ourselves in a place where God can speak to us through his word when he wants to!
The third question is the hardest. I have always had a hard time seeing God as a vengeful God, sending wrath. I certainly believe that he leads with the heart and, what may seem like wrath, is actually a path of understanding and experience He's sending us through for a purpose we may never fully understand. I'm going to go back and listen to what Paul says in all three Chapters and see if my interpretation matches at all.
I know this is old but our FATHER IN HEAVEN is just that a father he loves his children and is saddened when he has to punish them trying to guide his children to the path but most ignoring or not listening and sin can not be in his presence 😔😢😢
Thank you Pastor Jared''for sharing the words of lord who gave us his son Jesus, that gave his life for us, and rose up in the third day..he is worthy to be praised..until tomorrow thats a lot of food to to feed a mult..a lot people..
Romans is very challenging. After reading chapter the commentary really brings the content home.
Thank you Jared/branch together, you did a great Job. truly i did not understand what i was reading for my daily devotion. and it is really confusing for every word as you read. But because you explained it to human language, it becomes so easy. Kudos and God bless.
Dec. 14, 2020
Thank you 💜
This is really helping me thank you Sir
Thank you for your explanation. So good to be able to listen again. Understood most of it. I had to listen again. You have done an excellent teaching of GOD'S words 🙏 Thank you God bless
good morning''so when God showed his love for us..by giving his son jesus as a offering to us ..to show the love he ha for us..by dying on the cross as the first son to die..and to rise on the third day to show that defeated the devil...so we as follower's can be saved through Jesus ..Amen..i'm trying to understand...is this is all about..his love for us..
My answer to your last question is , i look at God as our earthly father, meaning when as a kid we did wrong my dad would get angry and punish but when we did right he was very slow to anger, same way with God , he love us so much , but when we turn away into sin he shows hes anger and wrath :)
Gods wrath and faithfulness is supposed to protect us as His children if we fall out of line the wrath of God is on our lives but then we repent acknowledge our sinful ways and our loving God will open His arms for us to come into him
thank you for sharing' see you in the morning
Good Morning Pastor Jared''i do have a better understanding now..it's getting better and better,,until tonight chapter 4 stay blessed and encouraging
I had written on my study journal-A bit foggy ,*Review This is after I stopped mid way to makesure The Holy Spirit was present.When you said ,Its a bit a complex that really helped.Your video has been quite helpful- will review with the knowledge acquired
Sometimes understanding the Scriptures is a complicated task. And you are right...the first step is asking the Holy Spirit to join us! Glad to see you seeking the Lord in His Word!
Great book "The Just and the Justifier" by CH Welch
Correct me if I’m wrong but I feel mostly for the last two questions Jesus is the answer and actually for all three questions. If they question God’s faithfulness look at what Jesus did for us, and if you don’t believe in a wrathful God then again look at why Jesus sacrificed himself. To save us from God’s righteous judgement, to save us from the punishment of death for breaking his law.
To save us from punishment of God, we must follow the way of Jesus Christ, his only son. Therefore Jesus, through faith in Him, is the bridge between God and all humankind.
Amen
This is a lot, but it was explained very well by you. Still need to re-read and study this chapter more. Thank you!
Good guestions also.....
Thanks you.
Thank you 😊
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2:00 Romans chapter 3
Great job. Thanks for the video. Let’s be encouraged to read and know our Word. God bless!
I laughed when he said you must have questions 😂😂😂
Yah this chapter is confusing
This chapter is really confusing..but I think I got it now thanks for doing this!!
June 27, 2021. Thank you.
Hello Patricio
I have found your TH-cam adress and been able to follow today the exclamation of Roman 3
8:17
Glad I found your channel. Frankly, I still find this all confusing. Bible study feels more academic to me, as opposed to a spiritual experience. So I also find it deflating at the same time.
Do you find our videos to be "academic"? We appreciate the feedback.
@@BranchTogether they are a mix of both. I am just saying my experience of these bible readings is more academic, than spiritual. I keep doing the daily readings but I also think I should be feeling some kind of spiritual change after them. But i don’t.
Thanks for the response. We believe the faithfulness of coming back to God's Word each day will eventually produce great spiritual fruit in your life. You may not feel like each experience is significant in itself, bit over to.e God is shaping you. And the videos also are intended to be a starting point, not a replacement for your time with God. Take some time to reread the chapter and quietly ask God to speak to you. Just keep putting yourself in a place expecting Him to speak to you and He will!
@@BranchTogether Its been my experience that faith and belief in God, the Father, and Holy Spirit is a mix of academic (the Word) and spiritual experience. I can easily get into a divine experience listening to a powerful song or listening to a motivational sermon. Yet, the Word is what sets the foundation for me and gives me knowledge (and sometimes confusion) and adds depth to my faith. You said it well that these videos are not a replacement for our time with God, just one more nugget or routine that helps us be in the Word. I know I struggle to keep God center stage as the day unfolds and I blend into the flesh and ways of the world. Yet, the more we're in the Word, pray, listen to uplifting music, be around other thirsty Christians, amazing transformation takes place. Thank you BT for making your videos available!
Thanks....you are doing a great job......what do we say to a person who doesn't accept a Gof of wrath?
Nothing
Pray and listen by reading Gods Word and He will show you the answer.
I herd 2 yesterday
Thank you for sharing this wonderful bible reading. I have a question, what is exactly meant by the law here "for through the law comes the knowledge of sin."?
I believe it means that the law (the Bible) reveals our sin. For me personally, when I read the Bible & grasp how Jesus really wants me to act, I think “wow, I really am a sinner” I don’t let this bring me down, I just thank God for him!!
Question...
Pastor Jared...
Is God's wrath upon His children?
If yes, why?
If no, why not?
Thank you for your response.
I am writing a paper on Roman’s 3:21-25 could anyone give any advice please.
Pls what do u mean by works of the law is it miracle circumcision etc
What is the meaning of Romans 3:20? For by the law is the knowledge of sin?
NLT version says "The law simply shows us how sinful we are."
My interpretation is that if God doesn't set out the laws of e.g "Thou shalt not steal", we wouldn't know that stealing is a sin. Therefore, the law shows us the parameters of sin/wickedness, hence through the law we know how sinful we are!
What do other people think? :)
@@nethinimwong no one can ever made right with God by doing the law. I don't really get the NLT bible when it says the law simply shows us how sinful we are. What law that makes us sinful?
@@turontan09
Romans 7:20 "Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin."
I think what Paul was saying was that the law (e.g. ten commandments) tells us what things are sinful (e.g. stealing, killing, etc.) Because we are sinful human beings, we only know what sin is when we refer back to the law. However, as Paul continues to write in the later chapters of Romans, even though we continue to sin by falling short of and disobeying the law, our sins are completely forgiven because Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice!
Basically, we know what our sins are and when we sin because the law tells us which things count as sin.
I think a further examination of Romans 7 would clarify things a lot more!! God bless!
@@turontan09 What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead. I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin came alive and I died. The very commandment that promised life proved to be death to me. For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.
Romans 7:7-20
@@nethinimwong thanks! I just wonder why he did not mention about those laws that points out to our sins and he did not even give an example of those laws. And that made me really confuse of what law that was not made void as mention in verse 31.
If you don't believe in jesus you will see God's wrath
Life is in the blood - to be carnal minded is death
Jesus preached truth whilst in a body of flesh and blood, but jesus denied to himself of the flesh, the carnal mind.... so by his blood alone, which has the life of the father in it, we are saved by the works of the father doing his work through him, and because he spoke against what they believe, they killed him.
Jesus is the lamb of God that sacrificed himself for the father.... He was already with the Father in all his glory, and sacrificed that time when he chose to take on being crucified to the flesh of a man, and leave the light of the father knowing he was to also face a horrific death at the end.... but knew he would return.
I think God is love and wrathful. Someone who can’t accept the wrath of God, in my mind, can’t seem to understand the concept of hell. He created it, did He not? For what purpose did He create it?
Ultimately, I believe we are saved from Gods wrath (His Holiness).
My only question is if God wanted to destroy us but Jesus proposed the idea of the sacrifice. I think they both planned this but others disagree. Also anyone who says they can't accept a god of wrath sound foolish. It doesn't matter what you accept because there's only 1 fundamental truth. I can't accept that the DMV is slow and lame but that's reality.
Thank You ❤❤
Thank you