2021 Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel | Daily Rider
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- 2021 Moto Guzzi V85 TT Travel | Daily Rider
Read RevZilla’s V85 TT first-ride article here: rvz.la/3ssOdPO
For the final episode of this season, it’s an Italian ADV with classic looks, modern tech, and a go-anywhere attitude. Zack hits the Daily Rider route to see how this Guzzi stacks up.
SPECS:
MSRP: $13,390
Engine: 853 cc 90-degree V-twin
Measured weight (w/bags): 557 lb. / 255.4 kg
Fuel tank: 6 gal. / 22.7 liters
Seat height: 32.7 in. / 831 mm
Claimed power: 75 hp @ 7,500 rpm
Claimed torque: 60 foot-pounds @ 5,000 rpm
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Merry Christmas to me.
Zack is riding my bike on DR!!
First Guzzi in my garage. Owned it 14 months, 20k miles, a few 1,000 mile days (Florida to Colorado and back), a track day, some light dirt. Riding back out West again this summer. Been happy with it. Only problem was an O2 sensor replaced under warranty with no questions asked.
I’ve been pretty happy with it so I must be geriatric or just charming and unique.
Is this a Chinese owned company rip off of BMW gs?
@@BoycottChinaa you can’t be serious.
@@twowheeledgator1364 oh yeah, my bad, Piaggio owns Moto Guzzi, was thinking of Benelli
@@BoycottChinaa whew
Things I dont need in a bike. 200 mph speeds. 190 horse power. Enough expensive technology to run a space station. Riding with my knees wrapped around my ears. A small seat that needs to be surgically removed from your butt after a few hours. Things I do want. A bike that is easy to work on. A bike that is comfortable. A bike that wont bankrupt you to buy and maintain. A bike that is reliable. A bike that gets halfway decent mileage. I think I like this bike.
I think you hit the nail, especially for middle age and older folks.
I am not sure if you can call Guzzi reliable. My friend bought it and had 2 engine replacements at 10k km and 20k km due to oil consumption. I believe he had one of the first models that came out in 2018 so maybe some production fault with the first models coming off the production line. Maybe now they have a better assembly or smth.
@@ernestt4460 Well that sucks. I never heard of any serious issues with them. Always liked the look of them.. Prettier than the BMW with the V instead of the flat twin. I guess i like rooting for the underdog.
Good looking too
Your don’t want listed everything I do what lol. Different strokes!
People underestimate the absolute easy of DIY maintenance of Moto Guzzis and its rock solid engine. Adjusting valve clearance is a kids game, no water pump, no final chain. I have 16 motorcycles at the moment and the first to come and the last to go will always be the Guzzis
People need to understand what this bike is about. If you’ve ever ridden a vintage BMW airhead, this is a modern version of that bike. Feels like my 1989 R100GS, which is the best thing ever. The Guzzi has all of the vintage character with all of the modern fit finish and technology. Truly an amazing bike - puts a smile on your face and will go anywhere and do just about anything. And they can be had for closer to $10,000 from dealers with luggage which is a lot of motorcycle for the money. The fit and finish is amazing and the motor is a joy.
I have an oil head naked and love it. But the lack of wind protection and luggage is a problem. I am thinking this is my bike. I don’t want to spend $26k on a GS. This bike is very tempting
@@johnkluge3421 yep, it is. You’ll absolutely love the Guzzi. It’s truly one of the best kept secrets of motorcycles right now. I’ve had a water cooled GS and sold it after getting the V85. It just does it all and is so damn fun to ride. Easier maintenance too, and Guzzis are bulletproof.
Interesting you mention/compare it to an Airhead. I have a 1982 R100RS with 165K on the clock. Twice while riding in the Canyons of southern california I've stopped to help a broken down motorcyclist. One was on a brand spanking new GS 1250 and one was on a new KTM 1290 SD. Both bikes just quilt with some sort of electronic malfunction. Gave both guys a ride into cell phone coverage so they could call for a flatbed on my 40 year old Airhead. In Engineering simple is always better.
If I stragle to switch from one gear to another - it does not put a smile on my face. Gerbox in this motorcycle sucks.
@@podunkman2709 your clutch is misadjusted. The gearbox on this bike is extremely good, if you’re struggling to shift it something is amiss.
Moto Guzzi knows how to make a pretty motorcycle.
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Thank you Zac for finally reviewing the V85TT. I've owned sport bikes (CBR600, R1), naked bikes (MT-07), and a Hypermotard. I've test ridden Harleys, Africa Twin, all Ducatis, all Moto Guzzis and others. I watched the v85tt when it came out in 2019 and finally test rode one last year and fell for the bike. I finally bought one last August as it now had tubeless tires/wheels (2021 V85TT Adventure in red). This is my favorite motorcycle I've ever owned. Loads of character and can do anything attitude. Enough power to be fun, enough electronics (cruise control, etc), huge gas tank to be practical, and the adventure model comes with metal side and rear box for only $13k. Massive bargain in my opinion compared to other bikes. Super easy to work on yourself, even valve adjustments. Low maintenance with the shaft drive. I don't think it has any negatives except the dealer network. The nearest dealer to Portland Oregon is past Seattle, so I had to drive 350 miles one way to get one. It should have been higher on the daily rider board as it's a great commuter. I felt like Zac was a little tire and just wanted to put it up there. Better than an Africa Twin which I've ridden. Happy holidays.
This. It didn't make sense at all to be that low when it's so comfortable, smooth, easy to ride low speed turns thanks to not being as tall head heavy as many other trail bikes, huge tank, shaft drive. It is the commuter bike!
I have a 2020 Travel. About 7500 miles old now. My first MG product. Honeymoon period being longer over, I gotta say I am still over the moon about it. It’s a great balance between new and old, has just enough power to keep it interesting and easy to ride. Outside of small build quality issues, one of the crappy OEM aux lights dying on me, it’s been a super reliable machine and has always got me home. My biggest gripe is, as a person who performs all basic services myself, I wish it didn’t require a dealer visit to reset service light. While it’s not my only bike in the garage, the V85TT has been the bike I ride the most.
Spot on You cant understand the feeling until you ride a guzzi. Its a simple mule not a race horse. Its not a BMW the vibs are completely different. I love my v85. Its simple and easy to maintain. Easy to ride and very practical but odd just like me.
I have had a R1150r oil head since I bought it new. It has no traction control, analog gauges, and an old school transmission. I love that bike. My sense is this one is just my R1150 but more comfortable
On point, I rode one of these a few months ago. Most adv bikes are a little fussy and robotic. This felt like an old sports car that you enjoy it's companionship and character not its ultimate tech or performance.
Agreed. It has mechanical personality.
I love Zack and his carisma but take these bike ratings and the litter board with a grain of salt. Here is why, based on Zack raving reviews of the Versys 650, I bought me a 2018, I kept it for 2 years, never bonded with that engine and so happy to report I just sold it today, back on the hunt for my next ride, but the Versys served its purpose, it was a great revelation to me and what I like. I like the feel and sound of a mellow loopy engine that just puds along without the need for high revs and all the negative that comes with a high reaving engine. So I am thinking that for me the character and feel of the moto guzy engine sounds like a perfect fit for my kind of riding, going down a country road all day rides relax no vibes just floating. I once rode an MT07 and it felt like a Miata, or a vehicle with only 3 gears, it is always red lining even when you only doing 30mph. In that sense I would much prefer an SV650, VStrom, Triumph T120, Mid 2000 Sporster, engines that just chuck alone in harmony without irritating your mood, so in that regards, the Versys 650 needs to be at the very bottom of the board, in fact I once owned a 2012 NC700X, what a marvelous relaxed quality ride compared to the Versys, such a better ride to eat up the miles, all that proofs that more often than not, less is more. For example I now much prefer my old and trusty iPad 9 to watch TH-cam than this gigantic iPad Pro 13.9 that just came out, the little one actually look sharper with more natural colors… So stop chasing greatness, sometimes the new is not always better. Am at a point in my life where I hate any metal machinery that has any high frequency reaving or vibration, I much prefer anything that is mellow base and smooth, long waves that massages your soul, and Kawasaki and Yamaha are not that on any of their current models.
Just bought a Centenario version a few weeks ago. Great compliment to a garage for a simple, comfortable bike with plenty of character to keep it from being too boring. Perfect for 2-up day trips. It’s not going to be an off-road bike beyond a few gravel roads for me. Zach nailed the reason to get the bike as the drivetrain, like a lot of bikes. It’s why I bought this, and it’s also why I have a V4 Streetfighter. Thanks, Zach!
For a second i thought you meant that you bought a Lamborghini Centenario
Are you still enjoying your ownership of that bike ? I’m considering my options for my next bike and this is on the list.
I'm an older guy that has been riding for over 55 years. I've been looking for my next ride and I think that I have found it in the new V85TT. Comfort, quality and practicality are hallmarks that I think are underappreciated by most of the younger set of riders. The V85TT is comfortable by all reports and the quality seems to be high as well. The fuel economy and the large capacity fuel tank might be the icing on the cake for me. The fact that you can tour long range in relative comfort and capably explore unimproved roads makes this bike just what I am looking for. The drive shaft is also a big selling point. Air cooled is lighter, simpler and just fine as long as you aren't looking for mega horsepower. Good job Moto Guzzi! Honda take notes please.
At 550 lbs it doesn't look like the theoretical weight savings did much good.
@@boomerisadog3899 actually it's only slightly over 500 lbs wet. i just purchased a Guardia D'onore and it is everything I was hoping for. Handles the Forest roads just fine.
@@boomerisadog3899 it's weight 509 pounds.
As a guzzi owner I believe that Zach has missed the spirit of the v85. This a machine that is easily serviced by a non professional, valve adjustments etc. Also this bike is capable of good acceleration and does not need to be kept below 4000 rpms and can be driven aggressively with satisfaction on occasion.
Totally agree with you. Zach really seemed to be somewhat confused about this bike.
What are the service intervals for valves and oil?
And his review of the Harley Pan Am has nothing bad to say about lots of electronic gadgets on it, and what appears to be a worse dash, while hammering the Guzzi for having a few. And my travel had all the side and top boxes, added engine guards and a center stand for $8K less cash. And my dealer had no set up charges or DOC fees.
@@thomasneedham1512 - Yeah, I don't think this reviewer did himself a favor with that review.
@@christofhuebner7841 Eh, he brings a lot of personal impressions to the bikes he rides. I didn’t really consider this a negative review at all.
It’s just a great, great bike for what it is. I love mine. Just finished a 5,800 mile 7 state road trip on my V85TT Centenario. It’s unique. It’s quirky. & it’s still cool. Most importantly to me, it’s not the most popular, & it’s not a GS. Everyone has a BMW or a triumph. Not everyone has a Guzzi. You’ll get tons of attention on this bike. Everyone wants to talk about it at gas stations. I agree with Zack, I don’t care for the tech. I honestly just love the cruise control. It’d probably be even cooler with older analog gauges. Cool to see one of my current rides on the daily rider.
This bike was designed and built for me. Simplistic, reliable and enough technology to keep it comfortable “electronic cruise”. I looked at one last year but held off till the tubeless rims came out in 21. I will look to parking one next to my Roadmaster next year.
Zach seems to be the master at the left-handed compliment. The more videos I watch on this bike, the more I like it.
I'm an old dude and that Guzzi looks like it would suit me just fine....shaft drive has always been a huge selling point for me , smooth and stable with plenty of power to get the job done. Only possible issue for me would be hot weather city streets....your knees might be catching a lot of heat from those heads...
not really. I have a 2008 Bellagio with an older vtwin version, and hot from cylinder is totally feasable in summer. With a more modern iteration of theengine project like the 2020 850cc i bet the issue will be even less apparent. It could be more difficult for taller riders, but an average person does not have the legs near enough the cylinders to fear the hot
Im one of the taller riders, im 206cm and i got myself the higher seat for my v85. My long legs fit quite good to the tank, even with protectors. I agree, as every air cooled v-twin, this one doesnt like stop and go in a hot summer. Then my legs can get a bit warm. Thank god this bike got no oil temp display! But Guzzi is THE Manufacurer for Air Cooled Engines, they really got the expirience and those Engines can take the heat. It is no commuter for me and i give my v85 150km minimum trips only. Its a girl for long fun.
I had an older v7 that got hot. I currently own a v85tt and it’s remarkably cool. Most heat actually comes from the catalytic converter. Which I plan on removing.
Don"t worry about heat of the engine, you can"t feel it at all.The Engine is complete open for air,because no fairing.I am a Moto Guzzi rider (guzzisti) for years already. ;-)
im 6.2 tall, i bought v7 stone 853 last year during summer. its my daily bike and suprisingly my legs feel fine i dont feel burning feel in the summer time.
OK its 2023 and you can buy a NEW Travel edition discounted to $10K.......What other new bike is available with Cruise Control, Shaft drive, Hard side cases, ABS, Traction Control and Ride modes for $10K? This thing is a bonefied bargain!
Guzzi offers a 1" taller and also 1" lower seat, very reasonable cost, includes gel insert. Also, one man's "antiquated" is another man's "timeless design". Guzzi does not make changes that are not major improvements. Their basic design is sound enough they don't change it much.
I have the Travel edition and I love the unique character of the engine, the precise braking, plush suspension and the looks of the bike. I think it’s a peach of a motorcycle! I have to differ with the reviewer as far as his statement that the bike carries its weight high up. In the opposite - I feel that it has such good low speed handling because it carries its weight low and I also find it is supremely balanced. Granted, I am not the type of rider that flogs the engine but enjoys the type of riding the engine encourages. For me, it has plenty of “zip”. As far as the twisties go I think it is a blast to do on the Gooz and I find it to be a rather lively ride on those types or roads. My other bike is the Super Tenere which is profoundly different in how that bike likes to be ridden and I love the difference in character between the Yamaha and the Gooz.
Chris
Appreciate your comments. I’m Riding a 2017 Africa twin right now, but interested in both the Super Tenere and V85. What type of ride and distance is the super Tenere best suited for versus best type of ride and distance on the V85?
@@oldtimer3824 Hello! I do the “big trips” across the country on my S 10 because it is super reliable and I know that I will be able to find a dealership almost anywhere in case I need an oil change during the course of a trip which happens quite frequently. Would I like to take the Gooz on trips across the USA? Definitely but I would worry about dealer support in case I need it. So, with my MG I generally ride the shorter, 2-3 day trips.
@@oldtimer3824,, can't comment on the V85,,
sorry. I've had a 012 S10 for several years now and it is very reliable.
It is a mile muncher
💯👍,, but it's big and heavy. I'm 6'3" and it fits me very well.
Gas mileage could be a bit better but I wring its neck too often 🤣.
Last tank I got about 42mpg 🤷♂️. YMMV.
@@oldtimer3824 I have taken a trip on the V85 from Tampa to AZ, two weeks around CO and NM and back to Tampa. A trip From Tampa to Austin, Tampa to Birmingham . I find it a comfortable long distance bike with a few upgrades for the road. It does not have a ton of power at passing speeds so click down two gears for passing and give yourself some room.
Seems like a fake comment endorsement
I have one and love it. It's one of my all time favorite motorcycles. You can get discounts if you're a veteran or first responder.
You nailed it: you buy a Guzzi for the engine and this one tries too hard to be modern. No better compliment than being a gentleman‘s ride.
Good timing, test rode one last week and have been contemplating pulling the trigger. Plenty of good standard features, cruise, heated grips, luggage.
I love that I finally see a Guzzi on the channel ❤️ Happy Holidays
*edit* I’m at the end of the video now and I’d love to see what your thoughts are on the V7 Stone with the new updated engine. Similar output numbers of this from the engine but a lot less of the tech.
my thoughts exactly!
Rode one...about 3 blocks into it...I turned around...needs 30 more horsepower and torque...
It is comfortable...
I'm so thankful you got this one in. In my dorkey opinion I thi k it's the best looking adv big bike out there and yup, you are going to buy based on the drive train. That motor looks so unique as does the rest of the bike. Sitting in the middle is a good spot for this machine. Nice review Zack.
Moto Guzzi are for those that enjoy the proper motorcycle experience
6500 miles in with my 85TT and very happy so far. 200+miles in a day remains comfortable. more power would be nice but you know that when you buy it (so not really a fair criticism). slow speed handling is very good/balanced. and it's a bit different from most others in the bike park.
Beautiful looking bike. I like the fact that it’s not something that will peak the skin off your face when you crack it open. There’s a sense of being one with the bike when you have no fear of it’s ferociousness.
Wow I was just looking at V85s last night. This really is a Christmas miracle
I had 96k miles on my lemons 3 fit me like an old glove and just needed general love and care to keep it reliable - guzzi’s are fantastic bikes if you give yourself enough time to fall in love for the long haul.
An Italian ADV with great equipment for under 15K? A xmas miracle!
Back in the 80's, I ruined my hearing on an 850 LeMans MkII, with a set of cored Lafranconi RC race pipes, the open intake trumpets, and an open face helmet with no ear plugs - I can't regret a second mounted on that fabulous Guzzi - 2 years and 29,000 miles, after I traded my '88 BMW R90RS for it straight across to an owner that hated the LeMans brutal clip ons, and narrow, hard seat. I discovered that the small kneepads on the rear edge of the fairing, just behind the cylinder heads, were a godsend - I could max brake from speed and plant my knees on the pads and not have huge weight transfer to the clip ons - and I could weight the sides of the fairing effectively, as the rearsets made weighting the footpegs more difficult.
To this day, I regret parting with it for a Dunstall modded Suzuki GS1000S...
Well done, I owned my V85 Travel now for almost a year and could not agree more. The bike has so much character and is very comfortable. My biggest gripe is the weight.
It is a little heavy but definitely not Harley/cruiser heavy. I've say it's a middleweight street bike. I like your videos by the way. ;)
@@StockySnail Thank you, glad you enjoy them ... =)
I got a Travel in Oct, and got some miles in before Winter hit. This bike just fits me perfectly. Great bargain with all the Travel comes with. When I am not riding it, I am thinking about riding it. One great buy of a bike.
No it's not a dedicated adv Bike, but it's a great little touring bike that can go do light off road duties. Great for Australian roads.
Nice bike 👍
For some reason I love this bike. The lines, calm ride.
I test rode one of these back in ‘19 and really liked it. It’s a good sized bike (not huge, not small) with good character. It’s weight is fine with me. I like that it’s happy plonking along at sedated speeds and doesn’t really egg you on to ride like a nut but it’s willing to play if you want it to. It’s a bike that I feel like perfect balances highway use and running around tiny New England backroads. I’m disappointed Zach didn’t like the bike more.
One major dislike I had was very odd play in the throttle response. Once underway, if you let off the throttle and got back on it, it had a dead spot that you had to twist past until the engine would respond. Not at all like a cable operated bike. I see very few people ever mention this, so I wonder if it’s a fault. I mentioned it to the people running the demo, but they kind of shrugged it off. That’s the only thing holding me back from jumping on this bike.
What a polite, tall machine. They have the “Centennial Edition” up here, with additional, commemorative livery. People buy it in numbers, as a sort of investment, or hedge, or… simply to drive an Italian one in style. I’m considering this bike, as I am 6’1” and drove similarly composed Aprilia Pegaso for 4 yrs. Served me well…
I test rode one these last summer, it was competent and comfortable. The gear box was like racking rounds into a rifle , firm and positive
You are the best reviewer in the business Zach- never change. I ride a 1982 Honda CX500 Turbo which reminds me of this Guzzi. Same engine layout, clunky gear box, shaft drive and smooth suspension but not high tech- at all. It's what I like about it however and total respect for those that this machine appeals to. Buy one and ride it before the sands of time wipe them away into the darkness of history. The Guzzi needs two standard analog gages- then I would have one.
So I actually just traded a tracer 9 gt for a new 85tt and Love it! It has so much more character and to be honest has much better slow manners. This review doesn’t do this bike justice and I love Zack! I watch every episode but i strongly suggest anyone take one for a drive
Matt are you still enjoying your V85TT? I'm about to pull the trigger on a new '23 Travel for $10K....What a deal!
@@craiggoldstein2461 I love it more every day.
I have a 21 v7 850 and 22 v85 travel. Love them both but if I had to live with one… it would probably be the v85. Just love it. If you do pull the trigger get an Upmap ecu map replacement. I’m running that in the v7 and it runs so much better.
I own a 2020 Travel. It had a bad kickstand sensor early on which was replaced under warranty. Then recently at almost 4K miles, it had an oil pan gasket leak also repaired under warranty. Aside from those 2 issues, it’s been a stellar companion on all my rides… And I’m usually the only one with a Guzzi on any group roster filled with Ducatis and BMWs - and I like it that way. The only thing I wish my 2020 had is the tubeless spoke wheels from the 2021-up V85TT. Happy so far. But I can be lured away. Let’s see what the future brings…
Thanks Zack for ALL of the great Daily rides this year, looking forward to the next one. Keep em coming. Merry Christmas!
ZC thanks so much for bringing the V85 TT one on DR... Surely, everyone is entitled to a bad day at work... the *negativity was palpable* in this episode. 'Can understand trying to squeeze one last review of a bike that doesn't have whiz bang shizz was probably a mood kill. Especially after a long year. Amazing outcomes on the DR leader board. This one would have ranked maybe a bit higher if it was reviewed in July. ADV Pulse did a great review on the off road and on road capabilities. Convinced me to visit the showroom!
it's not an incredible bike by any means. it's not difficult to be underwhelmed by an oversized RE Himalayan.
Took the words out of my mouth. I think the review ADV pulse did was the most thorough I've seen on this bike. I'm a huge ZC fan and always will be....
Yeah this definitely felt like a shotgun review lol
For the ones who like the brand and look for a different bike. You’ll never see a lot of this bikes in a daily basis. The engine is kinda oldie (conception wise), the gear box, very traditional, no quick shifter and clanky. Not a lot of power, so it’s a bike to go and relax. Maybe quite resilient. So can be a bike to keep. The dash is out of order, too little and to me doesn’t suit the rest and the riding modes feels strange on a bike like this, but I understand the choice by Moto Guzzi of putting it there. I would always choose a BMW 1250 GS, makes more sense to me. In every aspect.
The guzzi is a bike for someone who wants a relatively safe bike with less challenge and capable to be ridden in all kind of terrains (urban or sub urban roads), to do a little soft off road. It has its charms. So, if you fall in love with the bike, why not? Maybe you could get surprised.
I commuted on a Panigale V4 (now a track-only bike) for a few years, loved it. Got an Energica Ego as a commuter after that, which is great and all but riding an electric got boring. Decided to do something wildly different and picked up one of these (2021 V85TT Travel) a handful of months ago and absolutely love it. I daydream about riding it just as much as I do of my Panigale, despite making 150 fewer ponies. It also garners a lot of attention from other people, can be a good or a bad thing depending on who you are. The fog lights don't help much looking forward but are great at illuminating to the sides, making navigating neighborhoods at night significantly safer.
Interesting. And good feedback. But the 2019 on version of V85tt makes 89bhp and the Panigale v4 210bhp... which is a difference of 120bhp (not 150). Still a massive difference...but it's great that you still find the V85TT of a fun ride. I'm toying with going back to a high powered naked sorry bike (like my last Tuono) or something with more classic character like ones of these!
You can tell how much people love these bikes by the complete lack of them for sale on the used market. They have been out for two years now. No one seems to buy these and get rid of them after a year. I can’t think of too many or any bikes like that.
Ducati Desert Sleds are similar
Love the air cooled and shaft driven aspect of it, getting to be a rarity these day unless you spend much more. Definitely on my list now for travel bike this Spring.
Some would say old or antiquated, I say time tested. I always try to remember the New and Improved are not mutually exclusive terms.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. This is a tried and true system that lasts for years and years. Moto Guzzi is known for bulletproof motors and a great drivetrains.
As a frame of reference, I am 72 and have a ‘20 1200 Bonnie T120 and a ‘21 BMW F900XR. I bought my son in law a Guzzi V7 last year. I like the Guzzi a lot. Particularly around town and short country rides. Enough that I’m planning to trade the T120 on a Guzzi V100 as soon as it’s available😎. Or maybe I’ll trade the XR; I can’t decide.🤔
This is an example of a bike with character that is still a good bike. Harley take note.
Didnt know a machine could have character
@@the.communist They very much can. I'm surprised anyone who rides motorcycles would think otherwise.
I'll count this video as a christmas present :)
Sooo it's got hard boxes, a decent windscreen, upright ergonomics, suite of safety features and modern trip info data, a huge gas tank and great mpg, soft suspension for crap pavement, the right size rubber, shaft drive, cruise control, heated grips...but it only placed mid pack in the daily rider list?? I mean this thing IS a Daily Rider kind of bike even though it's not necessarily modern or fast. Zack seems to have lost sight of the Daily Rider parameters that originally placed the Versys650 at the top of the heap, as this bike should have placed much higher up the list of bikes, at least above any naked bike as a "daily rider". An argument could easily be made for the reliability uncertainty, or lack of service and parts options being a knock against daily practicality, but that wasn't mentioned as a downside in the video so shouldn't be a factor for the bikes place on the list.
Revzilla, your comments about the 85TT especially about clutch and power delivery exactly match how my 1979 T3 850 California behaved
Happy Holidays Revvies!
I really dig the V85, even in Ronald MacDonald colors. (In fact thats my favorite color scheme.)
Throw an exhaust on this thing, and its the best sounding ADV bar none. Changes the experience totally!
These seem like pretty cool bikes to me.
I love these Daily Rider videos. Thanks for a great year, and Merry Christmas.
The calmness of his voice soothes me...
Jeeeez Brother. Its a Neo Classic what did you expect. You have used the word old sooo many times.. Its apparent You are unfamiliar w the brand. I love the bike and picked it knowing what I wanted. I love mine. As you said its a mid weight travel bike. Traveled from Corpus Christy to amarillo (651 miles) in 11 hrs w/o pushing it.
A beautiful travel bike for grownups 👍🏻
Great to see some Guzzi-love on the channel, m'cycling is a broad church. I've been riding an 850 V7 Centenario since July and loving it; relaxed, torquey and characterful.
Just in time for Christmas morning.
happy!
I think the longitudinal v twin + shaft drive is such a cool combo
Thank you, Zack and to everyone at the RevZilla HQ for providing such great content. Have a great new year
Being distracted by the officer’s pants in an entertaining way encapsulates why I keep coming back to your insightful and informative content. Thanks for keeping the data fun! Well done good sir.
I think that sounds right landing in the middle. I own one and love it. But I wanted a old air head with some modern tech and it fit my style for sure. Sure an extra 20 hp wold be nice, however my last bike was an FJR and although faster cruising, the V85 is way better in the twisties and in my opinion it is more comfortable to ride.
Good to know it is good in the twisties. I really like these, but have not ridden one.
My previous bike was an FJR Aswell, i now own a griso.. I honestly don't really miss the intense power of the FJR. These transverse v twins feel more fun to ride.
I use mine for a daily workhorse to get me too and from work. It ticks the right boxes for me. Comfort, Quirky, MPG & practicality. I absolutely hate adjusting chains, so the shaft drive was a big win for me. I didn't want to go upto the BMW GS1200 range to have a reliable shafty.
What I love.
- The power is just about right for me.
- My knees keep warm in the winter
- For a tall bike, it feels good compared to my old DL650
- Top loaded panniers on mine. Much prefer them like that.
- NO CHAIN ADJUSTMENTS...
- The guzzi community is really nice & not elitist.
I do have some gripes though.
- The gear indicator not showing anything when the clutch is pulled in.
- The clutch vibrates when it is engaging if it's not warmed up.
- To change the riding mode, you don't use the mode button, but you use the start button.
- The standard, non travel, wind deflector is pretty crap.
I almost bought one of these last year. Ended up getting a v7 iii, but I’m still in love with this bike 😍
IF you do any of your own maintenance, the Goose is much easier come valve adjustment time! No shims and easy access. The lack of chain maintenance won me over also. I couldn't wait for Zach to do a Daily Rider on it so I already bought this model. The weight is not MG's claimed but probably the Daily Rider wet weight. You can tell the difference after you fill the tank. You also have adjustable rebound and preload on the front and back suspension. And I think your bike may have been thrashed a bit; was it a demo or press bike?
You seem to dislike the modern choices made but then sound disappointed with the old school character of the bike. The wider torque band makes it much more usable for me than a bike where all the power is at >9K RPM. It is also easier to flat foot than the KLR, and the dealer I bought from will let you take a ride on one to see if you like it. That is not the case with most dealers these days.
When I was young some of my friends had this make of bike, they really have come on since then, enjoyed your review Moto Guzzi years ago we all thought it was dead posh and exclusive the rest of us had the usual offerings from Japan. The Guzzi my friend owned had linked braking which enabled him to stop on sixpence no drama.
Reallty enjoy Zac's style of reviewing motorcycles. Looking forward to following Zac in 2022. Great work brother, stay safe.
“It’s a rare rainy day here in Southern California, so I’m putting the heated grips on” 🤣🤣
It's nice to see something different. I hope to see some MV Agusta bikes on here soon!
Best bike ever
Nice job zack. After 40 plus years of riding. Ouff a few motorbikes in that adventure. Pay myself a new one. The little Guzzi. A big risk, but very impress with Docky. 20,000 kms and noting. I have blast that machine. Noting. So smooth so caraterial machine. Easy maintenance, go every were machine. I was having two choise. Tuareg or the guzzi. to mutch road for me. The Guzzi won and i won. No dealers near by but my buddy apprilia dealer is their in case. Beside my 80 BMW gs's this one is a god gift. In 2023 that machine will be nearly perfect to my taste. Very happy that those bikes are not that popular. Im a lonsome rider. That gizzi reflect my philosophie. Good for 160,000 kms and more im shure. Tanks for your chanel very interesting.
You sounded a lot like you didn't like the MG, and somehow felt really bad about it. 😂
I have a V85TT and love it, but I'm very aware that it's not everybody's cup of tea (same as my old multistrada 1100 wasn't). Thanks for this video, keep them coming!
yes Sir. Been riding strictly (sporty) Ducati's since 1986. Had the "scooter" multi 1100 in the Pyrenees during one of my European moto tours. Great bike that was too. My last bike was the 749S, which I finally sold few years ago after I stopped enjoying riding around here with all the stupid/incompetent drivers around. I am satisfied doing 10-14 day Euro bike tour once a year (did 16 yearly tours in a row) and it gets the riding bug out of my system for a year . But now with Covid, I haven't ridden in 2 years and thinking I may need to get another bike. The V85tt is very attractive for me.
Adding a Mistral exhaust will give you many miles of smiles.
Great video, great retro -modern bike....I.saw it live and it looks way better than in video or pics. Smooth cool bike. In the other hand still waiting for the Suzuki Vstrom 650 review!!!! Please do it!!! And also expecting to see the Vstrom 650 beating that Versys 650 in your leaderboard!!
I have been wondering about this kinda bike. I love the Moto Guzzi style of bikes, cause I’m old school, but it’s nice to see it holds up with the big kids. Thanks dude!
Hi Zach, please talk about maintenance especially ease of valve adjustment and oil change.
You can do it at home. Both things are fairly easy
Thanks Zack for reviewing the V85TT....I'm loving mine! Also Merry Christmas!
This seems to be a very rare review by Zack where it seems obvious he is not enthusiastic at all about this motorcycle. It was like he was intentionally avoiding saying much about the bike at all. Even when it didn't bottom the suspension after he did the little jump, he was just .... ho-hum. Maybe it was the end of the season blues...? I thought the bike was pretty interesting, years ago I had a Honda GL500.
Can't wait till you get your hands on a Aprilla Taureg 660!
Why manufacturers don't consider keeping the centre stand standard?
Especially for bikes built for long rides. It's so helpful in many ways!
I feel like that's an easy one to answer - because they can make money out of not doing that... Sadly though, I too believe it's essential.
Happy holidays.
It also adds weight to the bike and you don’t need it as much on a shaft drive bike because no chain maintenance
@@dratilhelvetedotlol Of course it is essential!
Happy Holidays!
@@dandemong1168 Fair enough. I'd still like a centre stand.
Happy Holidays!
Looking forward to seeing what the fuss is about with the V100 coming.
It is what it is supposed to be . Good looking comfortable mile eater. On my short list for next purchase. Would daily fine and great for errands and eat hwy miles. That is important in my life
Really excited to see this episode Zach. I really love this bike and the way it does ADV and looks amazing. Surprised to see you didn’t think it was more fun.
Overcoming that Evergreen truck without mishap, nice
I understand that Moto Guzzi probably wanted to try to make a slightly more modern bike with this than they do with the V7 or something and that the TFT dash probably goes along with that. But at the same time, are the people looking to potentially buy this over one of its competitors really looking for that kind of modernity? I'm not sure. To me, this bike would have been better suited to some nice analogue gauges with small LCD inset displays to show stuff like ride mode, fuel level, gear position etc.
I'm no market analyst but I think Guzzi might have attracted more people to the bike by doubling down on the classic charm rather than feeling like they had to provide a TFT display just because that's what all the other adventure bike manufacturers are doing. If that was the approach Guzzi, then you'd be ditching the air cooled engine and dry single plate clutch too!
Let’s give a Moto Guzzi-inspired shout-out to Melissa Holbrook Pierson’s classic, “The Perfect Vehicle; What It Is About Motorcycles.” It is a great book, especially for those looking to escape white-out conditions or general motocycular deprivations.
Great book indeed!!!
Hey Zack, this is a very entertaining and educational format, so please keep it going (despite the studio light being tired of the leaderboard 😁). All the best to 2022 and have loads of fun on your next test bikes!
Thanks for the encouragement, Rafal. No plans to slow down yet!
Thank you soooo much for doing the Daily Rider series, I have watched them all more than once, please keep them coming!!!!
I really dig this bike. When I was bike shopping last year this one really had me.
But...
Then I read the forums. And it reminded me of reading forums from the early 2000's when I had my Buell. "Character", "Fun", "Easy to work on" all mixed in with "Just this little leak" and "found another loose bolt" and "waiting on this part that failed".
My Buell was a pile of shit. No level of "character" or "fun" made up for the fact that I was constantly chasing issues. At the time I had a garage and time to work on it, but got fed up and replaced it with a Honda that NEVER had a problem. I don't want a bike with character, I want a bike that works and is boring.
Anyway, bought an early 2000's GSXR 1000 for dirt cheap, added luggage and problem solved.
Same story here. While it’s a gorgeous machine I’m not terribly keen on greasing the shocks because Luigi didn’t feel like doing his job properly.
I'm really lucky : I think that this Bike is build especialy for me !
Ride safe
Cheers from France 🇨🇵
I really like the tubeless spoke wheels. Wish my Enfield interceptor had them!
Nice work! Glad to see a Guzzi on the channel! I think my V7 is great, but as you say, the character is the main draw imo.
As you talk down the TT on you ride you should remember. That bike is as good as the person driving it.
Watching Zak complain about the horsepower and giving backhand compliments about it makes me think Zak just needs to get a turbo stretched Busa and be happy
If you preload the shifter with your toe it can be speed shifted quite easily!