Around the early 90's in Orange County, California, I used to watch a local music video show called "Request Video." The host at that time was the way cool, funny, and lovely, Gia DeSantis. I will never forget the time they played my request, this one. Gia announced the band and title, followed by "for Adam in Huntington Beach. " She then smiled at the camera as if to say: This guy has amazing taste.
This is why I love digging through music! I've never heard this song before and have never heard of this band. 20 seconds into the song they got my full attention. I was thinking ok.. let it play out and see if the song drops off somewhere. It never did! This is a classic track and the video fits the song so well. 🎵
The Real Ramona… What a great album. I used to crank this in my 71 Volkswagen bug as I cruised around the mountains north of Fort Collins, Colorado back in the 90s… saw the Throwing Muses at the Fox theater in Boulder on their University tour…
Two of the loveliest, classiest and smartest ladies rock music has ever had. And together with the other ultra-talented members of their band, a criminally underrated band.
@@panchoverde5078 Yes, I can imagine it. Think about having Siouxsie Sioux and Robert Smith at the same time twice in the Banshees, or when David Bowie teamed up with Nine Inch Nails for a tour and they used to play a full set together, or when Miles Davis and John Coltrane were in the Miles Davis Quintet in the 60s.
An old friend told me that Kristin and Tanya were witches and this song references hypnosis and the zoetropes and counting backwards are means of induction.
Suddenly, Led Z's D'yer Mak'er popped up. Their vid features the portrait of a certain John Bonham, whose drum fills must've rung in the head of the producer of Counting. (Actually, girls in particular liked to cover D'yer. I knew Les Lolita's version first, Sheryl Crow did a sensual rendition and there's even a slightly amazing life ride by a younger lady Gaga !)
Oh man, the hours I wasted sat in front on MTV waiting for gems like this to periodically pop up. But am I sorry? No sir! No I am not! Man, I still love Throwing Muses. Thanks for the upload.
Old mix tape a friend made for me and suddenly this tune came on the walkman as 16 year old me walked to school, backwards guitar riff, cool drums, women singing....fuuuuck!!! what a tune!!!!!
I can relate - watching MTV, waiting for something halfway decent to come on - I finally resorted to recording 120 minutes every Sunday night on VCR, and then going through it the next day and offloading the songs I liked on to a second VCR… Still have the tapes… And yes, there are some Throwing Muses on there!❤️🎸👍☮️
Hey great to know I wasn't the only person on Earth doing this in the 1990s. I'm from the UK and used to hope some great indie tracks would appear. Occasionally you'd get a gem but that would often involve sitting through dire commercial muzak . On the subject of The Muses I consider University as the best American album of the 1990s with The Breeders Last Splash a close second
@@theodorerobertson9400 Yep, another uk viewer here too mate. And also another university devotee as well. Teller is my all time favourite TM track, a classic album for classic times. What a band!
Remembering I had the CD single of this song. Early nineties Alternative. Lovely little era of music. So many bands putting out some amazing, original music. It's crazy how after this and if you count Electronica later in the decade, there really hasn't been another musical genre/movement created since then. Maybe it speaks of the staleness of modern music.
Alex Castillo staleness is a polite way of putting it friend :) real shame anything like 90' altern hasn't been seen for years. On the plus side because bands were signed, made an album and dropped from the label back then, there's soooo many hidden gems to find. Won't be the same again
While I am of your age and so I share your gut feeling, the truth is there is a lot of great music being created every year, if you put the effort into looking for it. It's not as easy as turning on the radio nowadays. But it is there. It is a hobby of mine and I can guarantee that there is great music, and even new music genres, being created every day. Humbly I ask you not to turn off your brain or your hope.
@@t.c.bramblett617 Absolutely, plenty of great music out there right now. Its actually easier to find the real gems than it was pre 2000, just need to be persistent with the sheer volume of dross you need to wade through.
Fantastic stuff from a superb album and a great band So much talent on show, and those drum fills from David are wonderful Kristin and Tanya - man, are they both fantastic or what 😎
Still to this day this song rocks! It is so good! This whole cd is so good, and unique. I truly enjoyed Kristin's book Rat Girl. Thank you for letting us see into your mind, and world.
I'm old, so when this music video came out I thought it was corny, a throwback to many years earlier. Now, decades later, its brilliant which shows a time past beautifully. Bravo, bravo.
I know a lot of attention rightly is paid to Kristin and Tanya, but can we talk about David Narcizo for a second? For years, he didn't even have cymbals on his kit - and by this point he did, but he was and is one of the most underrated drummers in history, in my opinion.
@@AnthonyDOrazio No, I think that you've got it right. I just discovered Throwing Muses today, and the drum work on Not Too Soon immediately stood out to me. He's definitely a solid drummer with a style of his own.
He's awesome, one of my all time favourites. And even when he did get cymbals, he just went for one chinese cymbal, rather than the more usual rides and crashes. An unmistakeable creative identity.
That little side to side motion as she plays is just adorable. I remember seeing this video when it came out and being kind of mesmerized by her. She's so damned cute.
Love it...Love it...Love it !!! I remember getting this cassette through columbia house when they had a music club... music ain't shit anymore like it use to be
+John Seymour Ha Ha Ha! You're old! Shit, so am I. Remember when the vinyl showed up in the mail? Did you ever screw up and not mail in your picks in time? I got some real winners like Juice Newton and Vic Damone. What a racket.
+marked wayne most of the time I kept the ones i didn't order...I was a loyal customer...freebies up the ass...I had a collection of over a thousand cassettes...them were the days...oh yea...I don't mind getting old...hahaha
Great song by a very talented group... I only wish I could have caught one of their shows back in the day! There were some really great female led bands back in the '90's. Belly, Throwing Muses, The Breeders, etc... A time machine would be great about now.
I was 21yo when this album came out, found them on MTV's 120 Minutes (the only things MTV was ever good for). That Summer I was rooming with friends on the Jersey Shore (no, not THAT one) in Sea Isle City and working about 50 minutes away and I had a Ninja motorcycle. When I would get done work late on Saturday night and ride the Ninja to our apartment I would have a Walkman playing certain tapes for the ride and The Real Ramona was one of them. I felt like I was safe while riding and listening to good music and always felt like this was good album to listen to for Shore music for surfing and riding along the coast. This album is so good and so underappreciated. So glad I got to enjoy it and can still do so to this day. Thanks, Throwing Muses.
Thinking back in old age memories.......heard this back in 91 on the college radio (Houston Tx) here in San Antonio think it was the same. College radio at least back then played everything from punk to new wave metal blues grass zydecho..........now its just.....meh.
Great memories of recording off the radio.Then a second recording of cutting out the Dj’s voice. Unless you were recording the John Peel show, he always left a few seconds before and after songs,knowing what we were doing. Great man,great voice & so greatly missed 😢
Does anyone remember the episode of Golden Girls when they all went to see Throwing Muses at an underground night club? That was the best Golden Girls episode.
Tanya and Kristen both superb got the back catalougues of Throwing muses Belly and Tany and Kirsten solo albums, these are awesome albums....they never got the credit they deserved, . bit like Curve and the breeders
I was very fortunate to see the throwing muses perform live - in the university tour. Also very fortunate to see Kristen Hersh a few times, as a solo… Bootlegged a soundboard recording once- When she was a double bill with Vic chestnutt, At the Fox theater in Boulder Colorado- With their permission, of course!
Actually taken from the ep Counting Backwards, which was awesome ! The other songs included Cotten Mouth (excellent) and the Muses rendition of Amazing Grace will unreal slide guitar - epic.
The Real Ramona was unexpectedly released on my 19th birthday, same day as R.E.M.'s Out of Time. I walked in the record story expecting to walk out with R.E.M..... I never did get that R.E.M. album.
It must have been in early 91, around February, the sole time I ever had the chance to see them together. I have a DVD of TM live from that very tour, shot in Germany (complete with the customary lifeless crowd).
..."in that I don't remember..." I first heard this song on a cassette back in 1991, after a pretty bad breakup with a girlfriend. "COUNTING BACKWARDS" IS ON THE ALBUM, The Real Ramona...LOVED EVERY SONG ON THE LP, PARTICULARLY "NOT TOO SOON..."
The Real Ramona was a fucking brilliant record. You listen to it now, and it still sounds totally fresh, like it had just been recorded last week.
It’s on my car CD player now😊
Around the early 90's in Orange County, California, I used to watch a local music video show called "Request Video." The host at that time was the way cool, funny, and lovely, Gia DeSantis. I will never forget the time they played my request, this one. Gia announced the band and title, followed by "for Adam in Huntington Beach. " She then smiled at the camera as if to say: This guy has amazing taste.
I’d forgotten all about this song! Suddenly I’m 17 again, dyeing my hair purple and listening to Throwing muses and The Sugarcubes.
And getting pumped anally
This is why I love digging through music! I've never heard this song before and have never heard of this band. 20 seconds into the song they got my full attention. I was thinking ok.. let it play out and see if the song drops off somewhere. It never did! This is a classic track and the video fits the song so well. 🎵
The Real Ramona… What a great album. I used to crank this in my 71 Volkswagen bug as I cruised around the mountains north of Fort Collins, Colorado back in the 90s… saw the Throwing Muses at the Fox theater in Boulder on their University tour…
I'm 62 years old and my favorite bands are Pixies,Throwing Muses,Dinosaur Jr., and The Smiths
well done
breeders, garbage ... (?)
You don't like Sonic Youth?
Dad?
And...
nobody fucking cares, boomer.
Two of the loveliest, classiest and smartest ladies rock music has ever had. And together with the other ultra-talented members of their band, a criminally underrated band.
"Ladies?" Do you refer to men in musical groups as "gentlemen?" They're women.
You mad ?
Good,more for us....
Truth!
"Ladies?" So reductive. Do you refer to male singers as gentlemen? So dumb. Also, "criminally underrated" is your opinion. Obviously.
I simply adore both Kristin Hersh and Tanya Donelly they're pure talent... Love forever for this two great ladies.
Could you imagine having them in your band at the same time? Wtf
@@panchoverde5078 Yes, I can imagine it. Think about having Siouxsie Sioux and Robert Smith at the same time twice in the Banshees, or when David Bowie teamed up with Nine Inch Nails for a tour and they used to play a full set together, or when Miles Davis and John Coltrane were in the Miles Davis Quintet in the 60s.
37 years old, and a friend played this album for me at 16. It is my favorite album start to finish to this day. Absolutely gorgeous
"The Real Ramona" is still on heavy rotation after 30 years... A sign of quality? Sure.
What a legendary band. Loved the drummer!
An old friend told me that Kristin and Tanya were witches and this song references hypnosis and the zoetropes and counting backwards are means of induction.
I WISH THE 90'S LASTED FOR EVER
Truly amazing 90's band with very special girls in it.
From one of the greatest albums ever made. Absoultely unique.
This song is perfect musically but what I think I most admire listening to it is its rhythm/drum percussion; catchy and propulsive as hell!
Suddenly, Led Z's D'yer Mak'er popped up.
Their vid features the portrait of a certain John Bonham, whose drum fills must've rung in the head of the producer of Counting.
(Actually, girls in particular liked to cover D'yer. I knew Les Lolita's version first, Sheryl Crow did a sensual rendition and there's even a slightly amazing life ride by a younger lady Gaga !)
Oh man, the hours I wasted sat in front on MTV waiting for gems like this to periodically pop up. But am I sorry? No sir! No I am not! Man, I still love Throwing Muses. Thanks for the upload.
Old mix tape a friend made for me and suddenly this tune came on the walkman as 16 year old me walked to school, backwards guitar riff, cool drums, women singing....fuuuuck!!! what a tune!!!!!
I can relate - watching MTV, waiting for something halfway decent to come on - I finally resorted to recording 120 minutes every Sunday night on VCR, and then going through it the next day and offloading the songs I liked on to a second VCR… Still have the tapes… And yes, there are some Throwing Muses on there!❤️🎸👍☮️
Hey great to know I wasn't the only person on Earth doing this in the 1990s. I'm from the UK and used to hope some great indie tracks would appear. Occasionally you'd get a gem but that would often involve sitting through dire commercial muzak . On the subject of The Muses I consider University as the best American album of the 1990s with The Breeders Last Splash a close second
@@theodorerobertson9400 Yep, another uk viewer here too mate. And also another university devotee as well. Teller is my all time favourite TM track, a classic album for classic times. What a band!
This song reminds me why 120 Minutes was a must watch back in the day
Haven't heard this in 40 years, love it!
Remembering I had the CD single of this song. Early nineties Alternative. Lovely little era of music. So many bands putting out some amazing, original music. It's crazy how after this and if you count Electronica later in the decade, there really hasn't been another musical genre/movement created since then. Maybe it speaks of the staleness of modern music.
Alex Castillo staleness is a polite way of putting it friend :) real shame anything like 90' altern hasn't been seen for years. On the plus side because bands were signed, made an album and dropped from the label back then, there's soooo many hidden gems to find. Won't be the same again
While I am of your age and so I share your gut feeling, the truth is there is a lot of great music being created every year, if you put the effort into looking for it. It's not as easy as turning on the radio nowadays. But it is there. It is a hobby of mine and I can guarantee that there is great music, and even new music genres, being created every day. Humbly I ask you not to turn off your brain or your hope.
@@t.c.bramblett617 Absolutely, plenty of great music out there right now. Its actually easier to find the real gems than it was pre 2000, just need to be persistent with the sheer volume of dross you need to wade through.
This is a great song off a great album by a great band. The Real Ramona is the real deal.
Thank you 4AD.
Whoa, suddenly I'm back in the summer of 1991, listening to WFNX Boston.
Same but WBRU out of Providence... Right in the Muses back yard.
My first Throwing Muses song, and still one of my favorite. I bought the CD based just on this song, and it's a great CD!
How did she come up with such stuff at such a young age? Amazing. This album at the very top end of the era.
Throwing Muses is one of the best bands of all time. Fight me.
I’ll join your Musical Army.
shame on me, I completely forgot about that track and the album, and 30 years later it's still a great album
one of my favorite songs in middle school. thanks yellowjackets for reminding me
Still a favorite band to this day
Fantastic stuff from a superb album and a great band
So much talent on show, and those drum fills from David are wonderful
Kristin and Tanya - man, are they both fantastic or what 😎
Still to this day this song rocks! It is so good! This whole cd is so good, and unique. I truly enjoyed Kristin's book Rat Girl. Thank you for letting us see into your mind, and world.
Real Ramona is a dynamite album
strangewayshere It sure is.
Effin right! It's kick-ass
The first album by TM I bought and I still listening from start to end.
Who is Ramona?
I'm old, so when this music video came out I thought it was corny, a throwback to many years earlier.
Now, decades later, its brilliant which shows a time past beautifully.
Bravo, bravo.
I just Love everyyyyyyyy second of this song and video !
My most favorite Throwing Muses song!
Shimmer is great too.
Me too..
ronald john ungson I like “Two Step” also.
What a band! What a song!
I just love how badass and intense Kristin looks when she performs. Them eyes, man… Them eyes.
Only Kat Bjelland can rival that 1000 yard stare
When I saw them on the tour for the Real Ramona, I was right in the front, and it was quite unsettling. She and the band were brilliant.
+nhf7170 she's obviously fucking nuts
Kristen is a rock star!
Crazy/beautiful, wouldn't want to be on the end of her "pissed off" stare
The real Ramona and house tornado gotta be my favorite albums 💟💟💟
What? A time when music was exciting fun and to die for? 90's.
I know a lot of attention rightly is paid to Kristin and Tanya, but can we talk about David Narcizo for a second? For years, he didn't even have cymbals on his kit - and by this point he did, but he was and is one of the most underrated drummers in history, in my opinion.
Everyone thinks that their own favorite is "underrated."
@@TheVeek192 fair point.
@@AnthonyDOrazio No, I think that you've got it right. I just discovered Throwing Muses today, and the drum work on Not Too Soon immediately stood out to me. He's definitely a solid drummer with a style of his own.
He's awesome, one of my all time favourites. And even when he did get cymbals, he just went for one chinese cymbal, rather than the more usual rides and crashes. An unmistakeable creative identity.
@@TheVeek192 "underrated" is the most overrated word on youtube
I was 21 in 1991 when I fell in love with this song. Brilliant!
I was 19 to this day I love this song
I'm 21 now and I love this song!
Same age as me you copycat!
That little side to side motion as she plays is just adorable. I remember seeing this video when it came out and being kind of mesmerized by her. She's so damned cute.
Funny i was just going to say I hate it. I saw her play live last year & didn't know about the head/neck thing. Found it distracting and irritating.
Personally speaking... very Cobra-like
Love it...Love it...Love it !!! I remember getting this cassette through columbia house when they had a music club... music ain't shit anymore like it use to be
+John Seymour Ha Ha Ha! You're old! Shit, so am I. Remember when the vinyl showed up in the mail? Did you ever screw up and not mail in your picks in time? I got some real winners like Juice Newton and Vic Damone. What a racket.
+marked wayne most of the time I kept the ones i didn't order...I was a loyal customer...freebies up the ass...I had a collection of over a thousand cassettes...them were the days...oh yea...I don't mind getting old...hahaha
John Seymour Right on man. We aren't old, we're Old School Cool.
Rock on Brother !!!
my dad put this on a mix tape,lost him and still love this
It's so delightful to see the video for the first time, 20+ years after buying the album!
Same here!
isnt youtube great? :)
How did I miss this band? Fantastic!
Beautiful song (love the Siouxsie-esque / Cure-ish guitar)
YES ! ! !
Great song by a very talented group... I only wish I could have caught one of their shows back in the day! There were some really great female led bands back in the '90's. Belly, Throwing Muses, The Breeders, etc... A time machine would be great about now.
I was 21yo when this album came out, found them on MTV's 120 Minutes (the only things MTV was ever good for). That Summer I was rooming with friends on the Jersey Shore (no, not THAT one) in Sea Isle City and working about 50 minutes away and I had a Ninja motorcycle. When I would get done work late on Saturday night and ride the Ninja to our apartment I would have a Walkman playing certain tapes for the ride and The Real Ramona was one of them. I felt like I was safe while riding and listening to good music and always felt like this was good album to listen to for Shore music for surfing and riding along the coast. This album is so good and so underappreciated. So glad I got to enjoy it and can still do so to this day. Thanks, Throwing Muses.
This Song is the best bookend to the Mark of Cain's 'Familiar Territory', Great stuff!
The best of Alternative music.
I just heard this song on an old cassette that I made back in '92 off the radio. Loved it then, still love it now!
@delta0921 - What metro area were you listening to T.M. over the radio in 1992?
Thinking back in old age memories.......heard this back in 91 on the college radio (Houston Tx) here in San Antonio think it was the same. College radio at least back then played everything from punk to new wave metal blues grass zydecho..........now its just.....meh.
Great memories of recording off the radio.Then a second recording of cutting out the Dj’s voice. Unless you were recording the John Peel show, he always left a few seconds before and after songs,knowing what we were doing. Great man,great voice & so greatly missed 😢
Loved this album and this song
One of the best records of the 90's
Brilliant song got this free on a guitar magazine on a mixed tape loved them ever since
One of my absolute faves by any band, one of my top 5 Muses tracks for certain :)
AWESOME TUNES!! Real Ramonna Is my fav Album!!
just discovered both Throwing Muses/Belly/Tanya Donelly and Juliana Hatfield... and ok they are all rad and have been totally underrated.
Love them, saw live back then many times, beautiful
Loved them in college and now that I am 55!
The six people who disliked this video were counting forwards.
They do not know what we know. Probably never will!
13
Probably dont know how to count
🤣
Subtracting
Yes...bought this on 7inch at the time - still sounds amazing
this was the song that introduced me to TM and it is to this day my favorite band, next to the Smiths
Does anyone remember the episode of Golden Girls when they all went to see Throwing Muses at an underground night club? That was the best Golden Girls episode.
Hell no.
Gotta seek that out 😁
I"m pretty sure that was Betty Hutton, not Betty White.
@@ambar1212 yes, Betty Hutton and Kristin were friends
Thank you 4AD!🕺🕺🕺🕺
This is MY 90s!
Great opener to a great album. Just saw them in 2019 ! Still awesome !
Where did you see them?
@@quahogshell im in RI too lol
@@yogijaya2897 Did they play in their home town?
@@WHJeffB caaaant rememberrr &i cannt rememberrrrrrrr
@quahogshell In Pasadena CA opening for The Cure !
👍👍👍👍🎸❤️I love so much throwing muses, and Kristin hersh 🙏🎶
Unreal...this was the soundtrack undergrad in ct....lacrosse warmups.
Obrigado Spotify pela recomendação
I love this band, Kristin rocks!
I saw them live once. I'm so glad I did!
1st throwing muses song I ever heard, to say it was life changing is an understatement! Met Tanya, still need to give Kristen a fucking massive hug
I was watching a lot of MTV at the time & I totally missed these cool 4AD videos. Thanks for making a Gootube channel.
Tanya and Kristen both superb got the back catalougues of Throwing muses Belly and Tany and Kirsten solo albums, these are awesome albums....they never got the credit they deserved, . bit like Curve and the breeders
LOVED THEM>>>>>>SAW Kristin Hersh in Pontiac long ago....I love her..beautiful music and person
Such a fabulously wonderful super great band! :)
I've got this on 12 inch. What a great song!
great song, great band, they don't make them like this anymore.
Great song writing , lyrics incredible
old but gold
I was very fortunate to see the throwing muses perform live - in the university tour. Also very fortunate to see Kristen Hersh a few times, as a solo… Bootlegged a soundboard recording once- When she was a double bill with Vic chestnutt, At the Fox theater in Boulder Colorado- With their permission, of course!
Actually taken from the ep Counting Backwards, which was awesome ! The other songs included Cotten Mouth (excellent) and the Muses rendition of Amazing Grace will unreal slide guitar - epic.
I'm 2 weeks old and this is my favorite song and band goo goo gaga
great vocals
The Real Ramona was unexpectedly released on my 19th birthday, same day as R.E.M.'s Out of Time. I walked in the record story expecting to walk out with R.E.M.....
I never did get that R.E.M. album.
Those are both excellent albums. I'm a huge R.E.M. fan but Throwing Muses is one of my top bands.
@@mollyanderson8445 same
what a great band.
Saw them early 90's in Tivoli,Utrecht in the Netherlands.As a boy I was totally in love with Tanya Donelly...
I'm still totally in love with Tanya Donelly! (Zij is lekker!)
It must have been in early 91, around February, the sole time I ever had the chance to see them together. I have a DVD of TM live from that very tour, shot in Germany (complete with the customary lifeless crowd).
I love so much. Just a 18 yr girl blasting this song on my airpods
I think that might be the coolest THING EVER
I’ll be sharing! Support your awesome indies!
There’s no songwriting that’s more honest than this.
Been a fan since 2021.
Top 10 albums of the 90s fo reals.
That was superb.
Love the title of this song!
shout out to yellowjackets for introducing me to this song and many other 90s bangers!
..."in that I don't remember..."
I first heard this song on a cassette back in 1991, after a pretty bad breakup with a girlfriend. "COUNTING BACKWARDS" IS ON THE ALBUM, The Real Ramona...LOVED EVERY SONG ON THE LP, PARTICULARLY "NOT TOO SOON..."
It's worth listening to the original demo of Not Too Soon. It's from the early/mid eighties.
This is the embodiment of 120 minutes
when the got famous and wanted to still play a local Newport gig they'd go by the name "Blowing Fuses"
Fantastic stuff!
A perfectly crafted song.
Very good singer quite underrated