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Welcome back to Bootleg! To kick off our annual summer preview series, Brett and E.J. take a deep dive into the Green Bay Packers and break down the good, the bad, and the ugly...but most importantly how the Pack aren't quite as doomed as some other NFC North fans might think!
Time Stamps:
0:01 It's Packers Day
3:29 2022 Packers Team Summary
5:39 2022 Packers Power Score
7:05 Packers Scheme Breakdowns
31:43 Green Bay's Coaching Staff
40:49 Jordan Love and his targets
59:12 Free agency losses and gains
56:34 The 2023 Packers Draft Class
1:10:15 Report Card and Record Predictions
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If Jordan Love also turns into a top-10 quarterback of all-time I'm just gonna quit tbh
As a Detroit Lions fan, I feel this so much. I would be so mad lol
The packers really have had hall of fame qb play my entire lifetime it's crazy
That would indicate the rest of the league is doing it wrong by throwing young QBs in to get live reps in games instead of letting them develop in camp for a couple years
Really easy to tell which one of you wrote this one
@@Omg-kungfu Theres already a good case to be made for that whether Love becomes great or not.
"They never adjusted" sums up all of Packers' football I've watched for the last two decades. Really good summation of last season. And really good prophecy for this next season. It will go as well as they can adjust.
They won't this year that's for sure
The analysis of the defense not adjusting after Gary got injured is spot on. That made me so fucking mad
It's 100% MY fault. I bet Gary as Defensive Player of the Year.
I’m stumbling across you guys as a Packer fan, and your breakdown of their defensive struggles is the most on-point analysis I’ve heard to date. Fantastic format, great work! Will be a listener from now on.
Both Bears fans FWIW. 🤷
As another Packer fan I agree. This was a refreshing listen.
Even with the struggles.
The Packers still had the best defense in the NFC north.
Christian Watson came into OTAs looking SHARP! Worked real hard this off season. Ca t wait to see him play.
Tom Clements also won a national championship as the QB of Notre Dame.
Elite format guys!
Top tier entertainment in the off season
I cannot wrap my mind around retaining Joe Barry again. Even before Gary and stokes went down the d was mid at best. The stunting thing is infuriating. What does he even do??
Probably because he held the 49ers to 6 points in a playoff games with all the 49ers starters playing
The defense did turn around towards the last like 5 or 4 games once he finally gave up the whole soft coverage concept. He should’ve realized we’ve got some ballers in Jaire and Rasul who can hang with just about anyone even deep. Rasul is too smart to let a speed guy just out run him.
Despite his shitty start, our passing d ranked #6 for the season and that was with Gary out which hurt the pass rush to make it easier on the coverage. I just hope he doesn’t just ride on the CB talent and actually puts together a good scheme opponents can’t pick apart easily. We have way too much talent on defense for us to not be top 5.
@@MrKhankab Jimmy G and the weather did that not the defense
I absolutely _love_ how Fan Loyalty is far more blind to The Franchise than to players. This is what allows teams like Green Bay to move out of the way of better teams & *stay there* as the fans absolutely refuse to question decisions like that more than on ineffectual social media.
Okay, so it severely backfired for three full years as Greg Roman did his best to sabotage Lamar's chances of getting a Big Contract, but it was a stupid short-term plan that had to end with blowing up the entire team's plane or paying him, so that's over now.
You didn't like Dom either
Big Packers fan here. I'll update this comment as I watch with my thoughts :)
If God exists, they're a Cheesehead.
Power Score feels about right to me. We're used to setting the bar so high for them that 16 FEELS like we had an awful season, but all in all we were about average.
Our issues with Quarters and a lot of that Fangio type stuff didn't have much to do with injuries, imo, it has to do with Joe Barry trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Jaire is one of, if not THE, best man corner in the league, and I can't tell you how many fistfuls of hair I pulled out watching him play 10-20 yards off the LOS. Rasul struggled HARD inside, and Barry just kept him there instead of putting him on the boundary where he is stronger.
The Stunt % thing just compounds my previous point. We absolutely NEEDED to find ways to generate more pressure up front, and he just straight up refused. Even without Gary, you can still get creative and find ways to attack the QB. Barry just sat on his heels and dared them to beat us, which teams gladly took him up on.
I think we are definitely going to be a run heavy team this year, we're just built perfectly for it. One name that didn't get mentioned though is Josiah Deguara. LaFleur has been absolutely itching for a TE/FB kind of guy in his offense, and Deguara is that guy. He is one of those players that Rodgers just refused to really get involved despite his success in run blocking. I have a hunch that he is going to get the ball in his hands a lot more this season.
Its pronounced Doubs, not Doubs :)
Rodgers is on record saying that he detests play action along with any kind of presnap motion. I am fully expecting our PA% to jump up this season.
For better or worse I want Love to start the exact same way that Rodgers did last year: take big shot on your very first play. Whip your dick out, lay it on the table and assert your dominance.
As EJ said, our history of O line success is not an accident. From Campen to Stenavich to Butkus, our philosophy has not changed. You have to draft the right guys of course, but you have to have the right guys to coach them up too, and I'm glad that LaFleur has continued on with that tradition.
Tom Clements was retired, sipping tea on his front porch until Rodgers called him up last year and asked him to return. Tom didnt need to come back after Rodgers left, he wanted to. He wanted to keep mentoring Love. This more than anything is what makes me excited to see what Love can do.
I dont do Fantasy Football, but there are not 15 RBs better than Aaron Jones. Full stop.
Amos did have a down year, but this is the only FA loss that I'm really concerned about. I'm not yet sold on our Safety depth, and I still think that Amos can contribute in a big way. Still a chance we can work something out with him, but I'm not too hopeful at this point.
Keisean Nixon is a notable re-sign. Our ST has been absolutely abysmal for a LONG time until Nixon came around. He was an immediate game changer on ST, and I'm excited to see him play a larger role on defense.
I got nothing to add about the draft class, but for UDFAs don't sleep on Kenneth Odumegwu out of Nigeria. Dude is a physical freak. I'm not going to say he is a roster lock given his lack of experience, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he makes it either. He is an absolute monster.
Im not going to get into record predictions. There are just too many unknowns. All I'll say is that if we are in position to make a playoff run in December/January, I'll be satisfied.
Really solid overview guys! This is a very young team with a ton of question marks, but there is plenty of optimism to be had too. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to eat myself into a cheese and beer filled coma until September.
Excellent comment from beginning to end. Ive made nearly everyone of these points elsewhere.
Good insights, Tyler. I'm a Vikings fan but have a lot of cheeseheads in my family, so I watch a lot of Packers games each year. Pretty much all of your notes align with what I noticed as well.
I think it will take one more year meaning this year for clements to clean up Jordan. Jordan has all the talent in the world to do this but he still needs some work on footwork and decision making, if he fixes those he will do great.
Just a little added info to the RB thing: Saying Jones isn't a top 15 Fantasy RB does not mean he isn't a top 15 real life RB. Usage is often more important.
Imagine if you have a RB who has 10 yards a carry but only gets the ball 5 times a game. He would be pretty much useless for fantasy but would be the best (most efficient) real life RB.
Fantasy players have cried for years that the Packers should give Jones the ball more because we can see what he is capable of...
14:50 - 15:03 you just perfectly described why fans in GB hate Joe Barry
And why I as a 🦁s fan love that he’s still there
@@allthingsgaming6 And yet that defense held the Lions to 2 of their worst offensive games all season lol
@@williamhermann6635The thing is though the lions won those
@@vincentbernal635 Yeah thanks to Rodgers handing them both games on a silver platter. Joe Barry and the defense did not lose those games.
@@williamhermann6635I get the offense was bad, but there were many times Barry had his dbs go off coverage and not press.
Like the last first down Goff thrown to ice the game, Jaire and the others were yards off the receiver.
My biggest problem with nfl coaches is not adjusting to their players. It’s malpractice to come in and run your scheme when the players you have can’t do it. Especially when they can preform better.
The reason Fangio is so good is he adjusts to his players despite being known for his defense.
I think the problem with people who have coached under guys like a Belichick, Reid, Fangio, and Kyle Shanahan, is that they think they could copy and paste that system to another team. It don’t work like that.
The coach better show originality, and be flexible with their players.
NFL coaching has gradients of aptitude. Sometimes they may need a few years and knowledge of their personnel to be able to adjust. Some just never adjust at all and still have a job somehow because the HC/staff are fine with them. After all the HC gets to choose/keep their staff. But yeah Fangio set the standard for his concepts and getting the right details to make timely calls. Many of his 'disciples' have tried but absolutely fail in adjusting to what the offense is doing. Even his 'offshoot' guys (not directly under Fangio but practice his zone concepts on coverage) have far better success on the DC job (Demeco Ryans is a great example) because they are great play callers and coaches.
You already know all the NFC North teams don’t like Jordan💀
36:21 was a very bold move on a Packers episode, guys! 😂
Love the series beingf back - best there is in the offseason!
51:25 why is Crosby not a notable loss? I know he's a kicker, and he definitely had his issues, but as a fan with a history of kicker drama, having a consistent go-to is a dream
Thank you for the respectable analysis of my Packers. Good luck to da Bears. It'll be a fun year.😊 🏈
Jordan Love will surprise. Very good draft. Got my boy Karl Brooks & Reed from MSU.
I think it’s wild they didn’t even mention Wyatt.
Really solid analysis and I have just one gripe, and its not just you saying this its very prevalent in the National media. Everyone keeps saying "You are going to take a step back when youre moving on from Aaron Rodgers" but no one really acknowledges that Aaron Rodgers wasnt really Aaron Rodgers last year. Jordan Love doesn't have to be Rodgers 2.0 in order to be an improvement from Rodgers last year, he just needs to be average, and Green Bay will be a better team. Just my 2 cents.
Rodgers was slightly below average last year and even with his injuries GB still thought he was their best chance to win. Not saying Love will be a train wreck but if he plays at Rodgers level last year it would be one of his better outcomes.
@@Fireice39completely agree with this. Yea Aaron didn’t have a great year but also packers don’t need love to have a great year. All I wanna see is progress. Mistakes are gonna happen just hope he learns from them and shows progress.
Love will be great
So...is the plan to double the length of these episodes each season? I'm absolutely down for that, by the way. I just remember last year, when the plan was to make the individual teams a laughable 30-40 minutes long...as if you two were even capable of talking football for such a short window.
We’re four years or so away from each team getting a 24-hour DEEP dive into each roster. We’re gonna know the back up center’s darkest secret.
@@scruffythejanitor1969 Oh, I know...and I can't wait.
Love this series, love you guys, love football. This is going to help speed the summer up, theres so many teams that are very interesting going into the season
Love this series and congrats on big Underdog deal 💯
Extraordinary analysis/deep-dive, sirs! You have a new fan and subscriber. Thank you!
Excited for this series love y’all insights
1:06:22 I love little details like that, they add so much personality
We are not used to good defensive play, last year was not bad at all compared to most of the defenses post Charles Woodson Super Bowl year. It’s just been duck it “Aaron will figure it out”
Really enjoyed your breakdown. Your not packer fans but kept it honest and realistic. Loved all the stats and opinions and really have no disagreements. Refreshing to see something like this from another fan opinion. Keep up the great work. One thing I will add however is I wish you guys would have brought up Nixon. Best return man in nfl last year. I think having him back could tilt games in packers favor if he can same success. Give Jordan a shorter field to work with or even have a couple kr for td like last year. Other then that I really liked how went about your video. Gonna be a fun year and can’t wait for week 1.
Accurate and surprisingly very fair analysis. Very enjoyable watch!
Excellent show guys
I remember crying when my dad told me Brett Favre wasn't a Packer no more. I was maybe 9 or 10 and a little over dramatic, but i'm hoping this transition is as good as the last.
FTP
I cried that night and screamed who the hell is Aaron rodgers. Never forget
I was carving 4for4life in my 3rd grade notebook thinking it was a nightmare and Brett Would come back. Wild
@@jakeseraphin7143They own you Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@raybrean9889 Justin Fields has more talent in his pinkie than Jordan Love does in his whole body. Enjoy watching a shitty QB for the first time in 3 decades.
That franchise guy has a great breakdown on the Fangio defense if anyone wants to learn more
The biggest reason that 2.7 second time that Aaron averaged and why the passes were often short ones is Aaron didn't trust his line. He had good protection but dumped the ball short and didn't wait for those longer routes to develop. He also worried more about his INT stats than making plays. If he doesn't man up and stand in the pocket in NY expect the same results as he had in GB last season.
I think it was more about his receivers being where they were supposed to be on time than the line lol
Pack fan here, I fully agree. We’ve been blessed with elite QB play but there’s so many unknowns coming into the season. I am excited to see Jordan now that he’s taken over this team, not to mention his mobility is a big positive.
My only gripe with this is comparing Love to Rodgers and how it will directly affect next season's offense. Rodgers is an all time great, but last year he was barely above average. All it takes is for Love to be barely above average and with the other additions, this offense takes a step forward. You guys act like Rodgers was playing MVP football last season and Love will undoubtedly make this offense regress.
Subbed this was enjoyable as Packers fan
Y’all real take the game apart, I really like the way you guys do this
Green Bay saw Love in practice for several years and were still willing to play hard ball over the most important position on the field says they are not convinced at all. Even if they thought Love was a coin flip you take that option to be sure. They offered enough that he is likely servicable
Not true they did the same in '08 with farve. They flew down to farves home. Ensuring him that he was there guy. They literally played hardball with farve
The new studio situation for these videos is fucking nuts. Congratulations goats.
Drunk asl. Savin me wit this vid
As a Packer fan, your objectivity is astounding since you gentlemen are Bears homers!? Your analysis rivals all of my Packer channels. What a great take. Totally impressed by you guys. I will be on the watch for this channel in the future. 👍😎
Good honest assessment.
I think the defense significantly underachieved. Many analysts had the packers defense as elite and top 5 going into the year. I think joe barry is most to blame. Most 1st rounders on defense in the league, all pro and pro bowl talent at every level of the defense. No excuse to play the way they did. Joe barry knows this is his last year to prove himself.
Joe Barry Is definitely to blame
I can't wait for this lol. I'm watching, well more listening for a second time. See his Father's day post?
Love the breakdown here, quick note, Dontayvion Wicks is UVA, arch enemy of VT lol. Just clerical, appreciate the coverage and Go Pack Go, Go Hoo's
Nice knowing you because after a couple of years Jordan Love will be a top 5 qb
I truly think the packers 2022 season looks completely different if watson didnt drop the 75 yard td on the first offensive play of the season. That play set the tone for the first half of the season.
Idk if it had that great of an effect but I get where your coming from. I think a big part of the season had to do with injuries to everyone but I definitely think it worked against the packers in the outcome of that game.
I came across this 9 months after, but I subscribed because I thought you two really were pretty good on how you thought my Packers would do. Of course, things didn't quite work out as you predicted, but you really weren't too far off, other than what the actual ceiling turned out to be for Jorden Love, some of the young receivers, and with them, the offense.
I will be very interested in what you have to say this next off season, after the draft.
The highlight of my off season research
That was a great assessment. Much credit for not letting be a fan of the Bears influence your straight opinion. Pack fans do respect Bears 85' was great.
The Nixon resigning was huge too.
Pretty fair assessment. I think you will see a very run-heavy packers that will thaw into a heavy play-action. They’ll pepper in some deep balls but this is a tune-up season.
Hey, I just found underdog and bootleg.
Subscribed to both.
I love it. I will be watching/listening to both to prepare for the dynasty league I started 30 years ago.
Just wanted to ask you guys if you could correct the spelling on the Stat boards you use from "Usuage" to "Usage".
I hate to be the nerd pointing at one issue.
Like I said, I'm sold on both information sources.
I would have preferred to point this out privately, so feel free to delete this comment.
Thanks.
Well, just jump off the balcony, now.. Green Bay's system works. Love will be better than just good. With my Packers pride expressed. I say, very good show.. not because of the glowing report you gave GB but for what you, promised... A fare analysis.. very professional, and entertainingly done. GPG! The bears Still suck!
I wanna feel what Love is
Papers was my favorite player and I'm a packers fan. You got to respect great players even if they are not with your team.
updated comment
apparently, they liked to go under center at first at ota and mincamp... their hof left tackle said they shifted to shotgun..cuzz kid can "f*cking rip it, yeah we throwing a lot"
Adrian Amos just signed with the Jets probably as y'all were Live‼️💯💯
Sean Clifford is basically a smaller Kyle Orton. Big 10 QB made allot of starts in places like the Horse Shoe, the Big House and Camp Randal and didn't pee down his leg. His traits wont wow you but his command of the huddle and his game savvy should make him a guy that could win a few if called upon. I expect this year he'll be QB3 but next year he'll be QB2.
I have a question about offensive coordinator and former o line coach Adam Stenavich, how much input does he have for the offense if Lafleur is the one calling plays?
Dont forget we had to endure the 70's & 80's when we only won 2 games a year and them were the tampa bay games so we deserved them 2 quarterbacks
31:54 Revenge for taking Getsy from us ;P
Also couldn't agree more with your take on week 1. 11 personnel, motion to Empty, "Jordan Love...make a throw" and see what happens. What a subversion of expectations would it be if the Packers just start ripping it against the Bears despite having such a capable runningback duo? And what if it works REALLY well? And what if Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs take that next step??? AAAAAAAAA I NEED THIS SEASON TO START
What makes me mad is that a lot of good defensive coordinators were on the move this off-season, yet we pursued none of them and are still stuck with Joe Barry. I can’t remember when we had a consistently good defense since I can only remember the Dom Capers years and onward, and I was fed up with those defenses being last in the league in multiple categories year after year.
Keisean Nixon oh just there All Pro returner lmao.Forgot about him boys
Wk 1 and 18 is the bears and packers.
In both games we shall see how they evolve throughout the season.
NFL should have rivalry games as the last game of the season. No matter how on board fans are with tanking they will not tolerate a blowout to their rival to end the season.
@@JJ-zr6fu most of the time they do schedule division rivalries in the last week
Naw, you're really underrated Clifford
I'm a huge best ball guy...I'm feeling a lot better after this. I keep finding my teams with love and at least 2 other guys. 1 team I drafted dillon and realized I had a jones...start looking at my wr...wait I drafted watson..Guess I might as well draft love....oh look doubs is there also. Oh, reed for free in the last round. Yeah, I'm in on the packers offense at their value
My thought with the Packers is that they can make great moves for their offense but not see an immediate return on investment. Asking Jordan Love, Watson, Doubs all appreciate in production, and then 5 additional rookie offense players to also produce at an appropriate level, isn't necessarily a given
Dont watch much of the packers fwiw
I don't understand how EJ sees the Ceiling - Floor situation. The Packers are one of the most unknown teams in the league this year because of the QB situation, so I don't understand how you can claim the difference between their best and worst possible outcomes is only 2 games.
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"Shh shh shh shh shh shh shhhh, go to sleep, yes they are."
*as the lions are holding the pillow over them on their deathbed.
What is Love? Baby don't hurt me. No more
I'm a Packers owner, and I need to pay closer attention to the defense, because I didn't notice some of the issues with it. Also, I hope Jordan Love can become as good as Kirk Cousins because that will prevent us from becoming the Lions of old where they were a 1-5 win team for pretty much a decade straight. Remember that they also had an 0-16 season a few years ago, which I thought was impossible in the NFL.
Is that new york in the back ground? (I'm from canada) 😅
LA. Brett does some work for the Chargers, so he moved out there
Brett, become a Packer fan bro. Only way to break the curse.
Ik the rashan gary injury hurt a lot but dear lord why have we not fired Joe Barry
Adrian Amos has lost 2 steps. It's not that the Packers have great options besides him but he had a rough year in 2022.
They added a ton of speed with Tarvarius Moore and Jonathan Owens. Anthony Johnson looks like he could be a player too.
Matt Lequeef takes years to make adjustments. It took years to before he tried to fix special teams. Amari could catch or return and they stuck with him. They could block on kicks. It was crazy. Special Teams cost them ten points against SF in the snow game. 😂
If their starting five in the Oline are fully healthy and stay healthy Jordan should be fine cause man they are really good when their on
Love the show and don't wanna sound like a dick, but some correction, It's Stenavich who should be credited for OL success as he was the OL coach since 2019 up until last year when he got promoted to OC, and don't think that Jerry Montgomery does a good job cause packers are 32nd in EPA per rush allowed since 2019
For Montgomery, I will argue the packers haven’t done enough in providing Interior d lineman to support Kenny Clark.
They have given him edge rushers, but in terms of defensive tackles, who else than Kenny?
Jaren reed? Dean Lowry? Dovante Wyatt?
Packers fans may not even recognize their names because they have had little impact on each game compared to Clark.
@@vincentbernal635 It's true, but it's a job of a coach to work with what he has been given, also even Clark was pretty meh last year, was ranked somewhere in the 40's among DTs by PFF
Butkus has been the assistant for Steno for some time, before getting the promotion. So he is a good a coach and knows what to do.
Montgomery is a good DL coach. I think the problem is the scheme and Joe Barry. Barry doesnt do much to support his position coaches for the exact same reasons stated in the video.
@@niklas9771 they were awful when Montgomery worked under Pettine i.e even before Barry was hired, plus remember the talk early last year when OL struggled and only stabilised when Steno was "forced" to pay more attention to it
Central Michigan University is 6hrs 21min to Green Bay, and 2hrs 31mins from Detroit not a hometown pick
Go pack go babyyy!!!!!🧀🧀🧀
Rookie TEs have traditionally struggled first year. TE tend to have a shit ton of things to learn. How many rookie TEs have finished top 20?
The only other TE on the roster is a glorified H back
ya they are
4th year QB Jordan Love is good for 5 wins, one less than Rodgers had in 2008, his first year starting. Also, Rodgers went 1-7 in one-score games in 2008... not too shabby
Not even comparable. Rodgers was far more talented than Love. You packer fans gotta stop thinking this shit is linear.
@@iridesnw I am a Rodgers fan 🙋🏻♂️
at 36:20 - that's it! I'm leaving! lol
I've lived since 1971. This means Ive lived through some bad Packers. IMHO I think people feel he's going to fail because they think to win, we need a HOF QB and who has 3 in a row? Statistically, that just can't be possible. So, he has to fail. But, the truth is we don't need a HOF QB to be winners or even to go to and win a SuperBowl. I can't even say it would help because AR only got us one SB. BF, took us to two but gave us one. So, 30+ years with 21 postseasons...only 3 appearances in the big game.
Why don't the percentages for coverages equal 100%? Also where do you get the numbers?
There are other little miscellaneous coverages like prevent and stuff like that that make up the rest of the percent to get it to 100
@@BootlegFootball ohhh that makes sense
Joe barry moment lol
56:30 Just an FYI that Tarvarius Moore, is in fact, not a TE 😂. Although I’m sure you knew this, and that it’s a typo
1:04:40 Also, Wicks played at Virginia, not Virginia Tech just another heads up
Yeah they are.
Amos signed with New York today
Re 2024 draft picks they'll have 11 picks: their 7, 3 comp picks (4th and two 6ths) and either the Jets 1st or 2nd.
Amos to the jets, more aboard the flight outta Green Bay.
Its ok that plane is full of people over the ago of 30
what are your thought on Musgrave vs Tucker Kraft? I know Musgrave had better draft capital but Kraft had a better production profile and they tested similar and a lot of the dynasty community was higher on Kraft before and also after the draft.
If youre going for fantasy then definitely pick Musgrave. Packers offense is most comparable to the 49ers who utilize 2 tight ends sets heavily with Kittle and Ross Dwelly. Kittle is the "move" tight end which is a focal point of the Shanahan offense (think Shannon Sharpe with Broncos/M. Shanahan and Owen Daniel with Texans/Gary Kubiak). Thats the role Musgrave will likely play. Dwelly is the inline tight end whos more of a blocker. That will likely be Kraft's role.
@@williamhermann6635true. But i think kraft will get more involved and n the pass game compared to SF TE #2. Still taking snaps with his hand in the dirt. But he is for-sure way more athletic then your typical inline te. I see a bunch of delayed seem routes in his future. Hes RAC ability looks pretty damn good as well. Not as fast as musgrave but still faster then your average TE.
@@bowlofsoup12 Depends on how many 2 tight end sets they use. Musgrave is too big of a weapon to take off the field on single tight end sets.
At least from what I have seen after training camp and ota I would have to go Musgrave. My guy looks like another level quick. Another thing I wanted to mention though is I think degura gets the starts. He and love have a really good connection and it’s tough for rookie TE to have big numbers their first year. Just saying I wouldn’t count him out
Adrian Amos signed a 1year deal with the Jets
Lol of course he did
Everyone keeps forgetting we have Nixon
Two things packer fans want:
Stop running Dillon out of shotgun.
Stop playing so much off coverage on defense.
narrow your floor-ceiling ranges Brett
Said this for the Bears the range should be 2 wins saying this team could be great or awful isn't saying anything and shows no conviction.
They arr.spending 228 MILLION $...you should get something for that much money ..❤
I love how much you guys don't like us😅 it's fucking awesome hearing the annoyance we've been from a bears fans prospective
We're all trying to find out what love is.
Time to walk the plank!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think people are missing something and u guys spoke on it a bit is they got MUCH FASTER.Watson,Reed,Luke Musgrave is very fast and 6’6”and then they have some even real forth and fifth guys who are all in the 4-4s and under look out