Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Challenger 1 Prototype Pt 1

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  • FV4030/4 was developed for British Service to bring British armored forces up to a greater capability than Chieftain whilst pending the development of a true successor vehicle. This trials vehicle differs in some ways from the production Challenger 1, but shows many of the features.
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  • @muazazman3999
    @muazazman3999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    The Chieftain is probably the only man to make a Challenger look small. I knew he was tall but I never thought he WAS THAT TALL

    • @Chopstorm.
      @Chopstorm. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Iirc he's about 6'4? Not freakishly huge by any means.

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He is 6’5 I believe

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Put me aside the tank and I make it look small and light ;)

    • @ArielK-a
      @ArielK-a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Chopstorm. not sure buddy 6'4 seems rather tall to me, though I'm like 5'6 so that's probably why.

    • @Chopstorm.
      @Chopstorm. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@ArielK-a 6'4 is definitely well above average, but it's not like he's Shaq.

  • @variouscheeses
    @variouscheeses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Lounging like Burt Reynolds on top of the turret is perfectly dignified!

    • @tgapmax4051
      @tgapmax4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was like a Jordache commercial. For the ladies that are always commenting on how fit the Colonel looks.

    • @TheGbelcher
      @TheGbelcher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant 😂

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    When I was studying mechanical engineering tech years ago, we learned to use captive nuts mainly to simplify manufacture. It's easier and quicker for whoever has to build the thing you designed if all they have to do is make a hole a bit bigger than the major diameter of the bolt you've specified, then weld the appropriate-size nut on the back of it, rather than having to make an exactly sized hole and tap the threads directly into it. Plus, the threads in factory-made nuts are presumed less likely to get fouled up than threads tapped by hand in the part itself.
    (Later in the product's life, as you note, having the nut welded on there also means whoever takes it apart a) doesn't have to use two wrenches and b) can't lose the nut. In the program I was in, our main focus was on designing for manufacturability, but taking care of the end user was considered good form as well. :)

    • @jarink1
      @jarink1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      And if the threads do get messed up, it's a lot easier to break off the old and weld on a new nut than it would be to replace the whole bracket.

    • @1337flite
      @1337flite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "our main focus was on designing for manufacturability, but taking care of the end user was considered good form as well. :" that;'s dumb.
      It gets built once and serviced hundreds or thousands of times.
      Of course the manufacturer doesnt pay for servicing, only the manufacturing.
      And the public servants who dole out the procurement dollards dont even think about the ongoing costs - just the initial investment.
      Sucks to be Tommy Atkins.

    • @Tomartyr
      @Tomartyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@1337flite More expense doesn't mean more taxes raised, it means fewer numbers procured, another capability axed, or a different bidder being selected.

    • @azgarogly
      @azgarogly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The only thing is that special care has to be taken when welding nuts in place. Otherwise these will be pulled and warped and the bold would be very uneasy to (un)thread.
      Sure professionals know that, it's warning for DIY ppl who might pick the idea.

    • @Dr_V
      @Dr_V 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@azgarogly It's actually quite easy, you just fit-mount the piece in place, tighten all the bolts, than tack weld each nut, than unscrew the bolts and finish welding the nuts.

  • @challenger_commander
    @challenger_commander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    A trip down memory lane for me. I was both a Challenger 1 and Challenger 2 commander (and many other types). Thanks for sharing….oh, and yes, it was a dead track….easy to change though (compared to chally 2 anyway).

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you recommend Infantry or tank operator?

    • @challenger_commander
      @challenger_commander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@samuel10125 I did both during my service but I did like driving to work in 70 tonnes of armour

    • @samuel10125
      @samuel10125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@challenger_commander I ask because I'm currently training for assessment and I want to join the Infantry but a couple of my friends think I might be better in the RAC. Any wisdom you can share?

    • @brucemacallan6831
      @brucemacallan6831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SCOTS DG - Woo Hoo!

    • @conncorde2694
      @conncorde2694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi i have a question,if i can ask? In TOGS in high mag mode Is the reticle circle like on chally 2 TOGS 2?

  • @TheKing1cobra
    @TheKing1cobra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Nice to see a newer tank on itch, and i've always had a soft spot for the Challengers despite being ungodly heavy

    • @Retrosicotte
      @Retrosicotte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're about the same as most western tanks in weight really.

    • @jeremypnet
      @jeremypnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why would your weight matter? Are they particularly cramped inside?

  • @kippamip
    @kippamip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    To answer the question yes chally 1 was indeed dead track. I was chally 2. Engine was pretty much the same but a TN54 gearbox on chally 2. The dead track and grousers actually give a better cross country capability as well, but it's not friendly to roads. Probably one of the most underrated tank's for its day due to it's woeful performance at CAT in 1987. But the first Gulf War soon set the record straight.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know/remember why dead track gives better cross-country performance?

    • @kippamip
      @kippamip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ScottKenny1978 it has grousers on the track. Modern live track rely on the thick rubber blocks to dig into the ground instead of a full width metal grouser on the dead track.
      The only way I can describe it is like a clawing effect. This is why centurion and Churchill tanks could climb really well. The rubber blocks don't grip and claw the ground as well and cause the track to slip.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kippamip ah, gotcha!
      So there _is_ a performance reason to keep the heavy steel track and not go to some variety of much lighter rubber band track. Good to know for my sci-fi world building!
      Thanks!

    • @brucemacallan6831
      @brucemacallan6831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was Chally 1. Same as Chieftain, dead track.

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brucemacallan6831 I remember a Chieftain column ( unit from northern ireland / ulster) couldnt pass a Bridge because they made a new asphaltlayer the Tank Company was redirected thru the narrow streets in our Town they did a lot of damage to the streets and Curbstones with their deadtracks.
      In late 60s early 70s during the autumn manouvres in lower saxony i saw BAOR Centurions and chieftain always driving with dead tracks/tracks without Rubberpads, the Farmers, Town mayors, Forrest service hated that because of the Damage done to the Roads, Town/Villagestreets, Loggingroads and Field/Tractorways, we kids liked that when we went out to find the Tanks with our bicycles because it was easy to follow their Route by looking at the Trackprints left on roads , loggingways ect. .
      One day a Dutch Centurion column drove down the Road but their Cent`s had 3 Rubberpads per Trackpiece.

  • @Lintary
    @Lintary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Challenger 1 will remain my favourite tank, there is just something about the apearance of it that just sits all right with me. as shallow of a reason that might be.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think a Decoration, garden, mobile, BAOR aka Chieftain looks a tad better. But yes, they both look sleek

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      See, I have to disagree with you good sir. The chieftain without the stillbrew armor is the best looking tank. The asymmetric turret has character, like a jaunty hat. Leopard 2A6 is the only option we have now for deviation from the box or saucepan turret options but other than chieftain all later turrets are one of 2 shapes.
      The less said about M60 the better.

  • @SaltySwede
    @SaltySwede 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    19:26 - "Draw me like one of your French tanks."

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      japanese tank girls would probably fit better.

    • @SaltySwede
      @SaltySwede 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deth3021 But then how would my heart go on?

    • @deth3021
      @deth3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaltySwede on waifus and ramen?

    • @SaltySwede
      @SaltySwede 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deth3021 Nah, I'd probably drown in sub-freezing waters.

  • @monkieie
    @monkieie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I used to work on the Chally 1 in the 90s as a heavy vehicle mech in the REME. My ARRV was still a chieftain though... I loved the Challenger and the rapid removal of the powerpack (compared to the Chieftain) and really enjoyed adjusting the tappets and the fuel injection pump ;-) The gearbox really was pants though and it had serious problems doing a neutral turn. Still, a very enjoyable tank to work on and set the new standard for a more modern AFV.

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Someone's gone nuts with a can of green paint. I'm not certain if those rubber bumpers were intended to be painted, but I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be able to see through the auxiliary sight. 17:55

  • @shootingwithmitch5921
    @shootingwithmitch5921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I got to sit inside a challenger 1 when I was an army cadet back in the eighties--it was awesome!

  • @jeremywitt1940
    @jeremywitt1940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chieftain - tracks on Cr1 are carry-over Chieftain so as you point out, dead tracks. Live tracks came with Cr2.

  • @SMlFFY85
    @SMlFFY85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    xD Whoever painted that tank really couldn't be arsed.

  • @tacticalmanatee
    @tacticalmanatee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is cool, I like seeing the newer stuff. It's a very cool looking tank, almost sci-fi looking.

    • @samm1561
      @samm1561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the Challenger prototype is more than 40 years old

  • @MilesStratton
    @MilesStratton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Fantastic video. Looking forward to P2

  • @mitternacht4062
    @mitternacht4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The similarity to Challenger 2, at least on the automotive end, is quite unreal. The parts may be different, but the basic design is pretty much exactly the same. Guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but having crewed Chally 2s, this seems to be nearly identical. Glad track tensioning is a button on the newer model though.

    • @jimmydesouza4375
      @jimmydesouza4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Its similar because the Chally 2 isn't really a new tank, it's just marketed as such (similar to how the "new" chally 3 is just the chally 2 LEP under a new name). Basically British army are still running around in Centurions :D.

    • @jamesgale9722
      @jamesgale9722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That's a hugely incorrect statement. Challenger 1 was essentially an upgraded Chieftain. The Challenger II was an entirely new design built from the ground up. With some basis externally being similar internally it was Mike's apart.

    • @GrasshopperKelly
      @GrasshopperKelly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Chal server really will, the Brits just s*** themselves when the tank came last in most races and trials in a European military show/competition. Everything else was more accurate on the move, everything else was finishing the race tracks faster, and the visibility from the inside was poorer. So they started upgrading pretty much every electronic, changed view ports etc., and found a few other things they could update and change in the process. Such as adding new internal laser sensor to the barrel.

    • @WozWozEre
      @WozWozEre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Everything I've ever read about Chally 1 and 2 says they're almost completely different tanks, despite external similarities.
      It also all says Chally 1 was a complete turkey, hence why Chally 2 was brought in so goddamn fast.

    • @jimmydesouza4375
      @jimmydesouza4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesgale9722 Sorry but that's not the case.

  • @GrasshopperKelly
    @GrasshopperKelly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    7:45 Two options: as an Engineering student, who's asked the same question about nuts that were welded in place I *believe* it's because those are adjustable bolt eyes/slots/tracks. I was told because it's where the bolt should end up, on that specific example (We were looking at a sterile filling machine). The slot for the bolt was a track, to allow for adjustment. But because the machine was semi mass produced, and the bolts were to hold two sections of machine together. The Washer might need to be a different model, because of a change in the vials, or a different manufacturers washer might be used in future etc. They're modular, in-case Amgen, Pfizer, Alexion etc. change the drug and vial they're filling but want to keep the machine worth 6 figures.
    You'd assemble the machine, adjust the levelling feet, make sure all the sections mate correctly, the machine runs smoothly. Then, the bolts that are in adjustable slots, you'd weld the nuts. So they cannot adjust themselves from vibration, and so if the machine is ever moved, or sections need to be disassembled for maintenance, they can be bolted back together exactly the way they were.
    TL,DR I *believe* It's so the skirts can be bolted back on, adjusted to the same place every time. The adjustment being put there by the factory, because despite even modern precision engineering, the part's wont be to micrometre tolerances. That's just to expensive a tolerance for what's designed to get shot at.
    A second possibility is, the corner bracket it's mounted on is just a mass produced part. As a result, the manufacturer doesn't know what kind of bolt/thread you intend putting through it. So the factory using the brackets on your tank, just take a bolt they think does the job, and a corresponding nut. Instead of making a custom bracket, and tapping a thread through it. Or making a square plate and tapping the thread in the plate and welding that to the bracket... just take a nut, it's easier and cheaper. Plus like you said, it can't go anywhere afterwards.

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or, the simpler explanation: someone just got tired of threading all those nuts on every time they took the skirts off and just tacked them in place.

    • @AkosJaccik
      @AkosJaccik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Frankly I think the reason for the welding is that they needed a threaded hole on the sheet metal part ( 07:52 ) and quite possibly the _cheapest_ way to achieve this is to just weld a commercially avaliable nut to it. They could've just supply it as a loose part, but this way it's - as Chieftain pointed it out as well - one less thing to lose, as there is no reason for that nut to ever come off. At a sheet metal shop I've worked at we've made similar parts (although for the food industry among others, not for tanks...) where the idea was the same: manufacture a cheap sheet metal product (in our case it was laser cut, bent and welded), weld a dirt cheap nut to it, bam, you don't need casting, don't need milling, you don't need threading, don't need anything a welder and a grinder can't do. In case the part receives damage, a field shop could improvise one rather easily this way as well.

    • @31terikennedy
      @31terikennedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welding the nuts on was probably a MWO (Modification Work Order) to make it more user friendly.

    • @agt155
      @agt155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they weren't welded on you'd need two spanners to do/undo them.

    • @31terikennedy
      @31terikennedy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@agt155 Most likely a field mod.

  • @blueboats7530
    @blueboats7530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I appreciate the bloopers at the end, myself I've done a lot of presentation speaking and I know how much work, practice, re-doing is required to have a faintly smooth end result.

  • @beanhavok2287
    @beanhavok2287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It is funny how the smaller ports basically had the same hatch design as the world war two cruiser tanks.

    • @mitternacht4062
      @mitternacht4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Only so many ways you can design a small round metal door that opens outwards I suppose.

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Coventry Climax sound like British adult film.

  • @skyraider8793
    @skyraider8793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have the very best channel on explaining part on military vehicles. Please don't change anything. Very helpful on my model building. Thanks. BB.

  • @fredorman2429
    @fredorman2429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s all very complicated. I was in the infantry where I had a US Rifle, caliber 30 M1, in which the only caveat was to withdraw the right thumb quickly when closing the action. My buddy, Eddie, was the squad BAR man. He also carried a Browning 1911, in which the main caveat was to catch the barrel bushing and recoil spring when field stripping otherwise the bushing would be lost forever. Those were simpler, unsophisticated times.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me grandpa use to say that getting Garand thumb more than once was a sign of being a slow learner.

    • @Spartan265
      @Spartan265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you and your friend as well for your service.

    • @tgapmax4051
      @tgapmax4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I spent an hour and a half searching for that darn 1911 barrel bushing one Annual Training.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Spoiler Alert! The MBT-80 would not become operational by 1990.

  • @gvii
    @gvii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you have several men stuck in a tank for a few days under NBC conditions, I can think of at least a couple of things you might use the refuse port to get rid of in a hurry. Unless they have some other method of storing/disposing of that sort of thing. Preferring disposal over storing, I'd hope.

    • @eruantien9932
      @eruantien9932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the key is to have a storage method that you can put through disposal without any contamination.

    • @gvii
      @gvii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eruantien9932 Except we're talking about a tank where every square inch of space is a consideration, much like submarines from the early cold war and back. There is no advantage whatsoever to storing something like that, it would make all the sense in the world to provision it's prompt disposal via an airlock type port like this. That said, I have no idea what the official use of the port was. But, I have little doubt it would have been used for just that has the need arisen.

    • @triangulan
      @triangulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I suspect The Chieftain was quite aware of that, his tone suggested that he was deliberately not saying what for the sake of avoiding upsetting any viewers who might be eating their breakfast at the time of watching, rather than he didn't have some idea of what it might be used for...

    • @tgapmax4051
      @tgapmax4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then think a few days later. OK, we're out of the NBC area, time to decontaminate. Commander pulls out his side arm & points at Gunner. "Gunner, clean off the SH*T we've been jettisoning out the whole, onto the tracks."

    • @triangulan
      @triangulan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tgapmax4051 Meh, by the point the tracks will have been going around so much anything deposited on them will have been dumped off and/or well diluted with everyday mud etc that it wouldn't be identifiable.

  • @jamieproctor8691
    @jamieproctor8691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the Chally, I live up the road from the RoF Barnbow in Leeds so saw a few of them fresh out the factory.

  • @thomaschurch6171
    @thomaschurch6171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I listened to the refueling section a few times. Still not 100% sure if you fill it one side at a time or all at once.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Both ports per side, likely one side at a time, but you can do all four ports if you have the capacity.

    • @mitternacht4062
      @mitternacht4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If it's the same as chally 2, you fill one port on each side, swapping between the front and back filler holes as that side fills up. The Unit Support Tankers have two hoses and if you're lucky you'll get use of both during a replen. If you're on unlevel ground the side facing up the slope will take more diesel than side facing down the slope, so usually a flat bit of ground is preferable, so you can tank as much fuel as possible.

  • @izumishion6267
    @izumishion6267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Super happy to see this and completely ecstatic to see Part 2. Out of all the modern day tank in service, the Challengers are my 2nd favorite tanks. I own a Tamiya model with the ERA armor package of both Challengers.

    • @mitternacht4062
      @mitternacht4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've crewed chally 2 for a few years, so feel free to ask me any Qs if curious.

    • @izumishion6267
      @izumishion6267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitternacht4062 Thank's for the suggestion but I got nothing at the moment. Actually, i got 2. What was your position and how did it feel to crew a Chally?

  • @PalisadeFence
    @PalisadeFence 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Did current events involving tractors lead to the addition of information on the importance of disconnecting the final drive first?

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This may still be difficult without the tool to disconnect the final drive. And I cannot see a British crew just walking away to be at one in the forest. So expect armed resistance.

    • @herosstratos
      @herosstratos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You have to be aware that when you decouple the final drives you decouple not only the transmission but also steering and braking. It is therefore imperative to block the running gear thoroughly beforehand. A tank rolling down the slope unchecked can destroy a house (US-Army, Germany).

    • @tgapmax4051
      @tgapmax4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My first thought was that would be an AWESOME prank while the crew was off somewhere / sleeping.

  • @fluffycat087
    @fluffycat087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Due to age and early onset dementia the outtakes are now my favourite part. Just focus, peace and inner harmony, peace and inner harmony dude.

  • @cirian75
    @cirian75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello old friend, it's been 25 years since I was this close, and no TOGs.

  • @lizard2929
    @lizard2929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having bloopers at the end makes the video better

  • @furmanmackey5479
    @furmanmackey5479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah hell.....I had almost forgotten the sound of the torsion bars, on our first generation M1 Abrams MBTs, snapping when it got really, really cold in our little corner of Bavaria after we returned from transition at Graf. The first time it happened we thought somebody was shooting at our barracks and the whole damn battalion went on alert! Add in a bit of cold nitrogen and I strongly suspect things would have gotten really interesting! As it was, during the cold months, we pulled Motor Pool duty keeping our M1s warm by firing them up every hour or so which allowed the turbines to "warm" the hulls and interiors enough to prevent, mostly, further torsion bar failures.

  • @kaiserwilhelmshatner3156
    @kaiserwilhelmshatner3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That paint job level is of a 5 year old painting their first model.
    Way to go Fort Knox!

    • @colbeausabre8842
      @colbeausabre8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably told - "That Brit rank is rusting out. Paint it". It's not for nothing that OD is known as "Over Dirt". At least it preserved the vehicle until a proper job can be done. I imagine that packing up the Armor Museum was a big job without many people, so rushed jobs were routine and then it sat outside for several years until indoor storage could be built

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I now know from personal experience just why you don't do these 'off the cuff'. The number of mistakes in my own attempt is frankly embarrassing.
    Nice video sir.

  • @sdfarsight
    @sdfarsight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:27, Or as Johnny Vaughan said on Top Gear: "And onto the stage here comes Coventry Climax! Yes she's doing'it for you boys..."

  • @DraigBlackCat
    @DraigBlackCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Following on from your 'sleeping on the engine deck' comment then I wonder if the designers ever consider this - after all, crew comfort is an important factor in operational effectiveness. So in relation to this I have a couple of questions:
    1. Has any armoured vehicle ever had their engine deck specifically tailored to act as a comfortable sleeping platform?
    2 If no to question one then has any armoured vehicle ever been tailored to allow slinging of hammocks?

  • @tony66au
    @tony66au 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A few Father Ted moments at the end there Chieftain :-)
    Love it!

    • @tgapmax4051
      @tgapmax4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any Father Ted reference needs props. Father Dougal McGuire must have done the painting. "Paint it all green, that would be grand."

  • @toastermicrophone7198
    @toastermicrophone7198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The old timey drill is called a brace and bit they make a similar set up for sockets it is called a speed wrench

  • @captaincrazyhat
    @captaincrazyhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So if the Chieftain ever has to retire would his replacement would be named challenger?

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's over on the World of Tanks Europe channel

    • @jimmydesouza4375
      @jimmydesouza4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Strictly speaking for this analogy to work, they'd just have to bolt a bunch of new stuff on to Chieftain to stop him retiring then call him challenger.

    • @1701enter
      @1701enter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More fun than Sherman?

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jimmydesouza4375 Otoh there can be multiple marks of Chieftain. All done by bolting on extra stuff. We could also paint him in nice colors like they did in Berlin...

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mbr5742 Ya know, a shirt in Berlin Brigade camo sounds fun...

  • @Austin_H_1900
    @Austin_H_1900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You certainly do do such a good job that it does appear that you do these “off the cuff” instead of with prompter. You do an excellent job sir.

  • @birdmonster4586
    @birdmonster4586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is a great complement to the Tank museum Bovington's Video on Challenger 1. David goes a lot more into the history behind the decision to make and adopt Challenger along with some of the politics that made it a reality, and also the CAT '87 stuff and operational history.
    th-cam.com/video/Lwcx7vVieUQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @Sturminfantrist
    @Sturminfantrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brits made the best lookin Tanks ever ,my favorites are 1. Chieftain, 2. Centurion, 3. Challenger 1!
    As a Kid i played often during manouvres in BAOR Tanks and other Vehicles.
    Their wheeled Stuff back then was great too iam in love with Ferrets, Saracens, Saladins and Stalwart`s

  • @TheBrewjo
    @TheBrewjo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite episode so far, the minions in the background were very well behaved :)

  • @tacticaltrex6490
    @tacticaltrex6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love the Challenger.... also, do the BMP next to the challenger next!

  • @Centurion101B3C
    @Centurion101B3C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hm, regarding the thermal shroud; The Centurion Mk5/2 with the 105mm L7a1 (onward) had similar.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "How many times do I need to do this?" Said every TH-camr multiple times during filming a Video :) (At least I hope I am not the only one)
    Interesting Vehicle. The Britisch tank development and the story of Challangers 1/2 is quite convoluted.

  • @GorgeDawes
    @GorgeDawes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An American serviceman thinks we Brits need to simplify our naming system? Oh Chieftain, you are a treasure!

  • @johnhughes8016
    @johnhughes8016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spent years on CR1 before going to CR2, and i can say, I preferred the CR1 for working on, was fantastic after CH, sleeping on the decks was warm and comfortable compared to CR2....

  • @ianmarsden1130
    @ianmarsden1130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. I also like that Nicholas is suffering from similar Intel control issues as I do.

  • @scotty20040
    @scotty20040 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My old man was involved in one of the test sqdrns for vickers on Challenger 1. Just thought I add that.

  • @lakewooded4929
    @lakewooded4929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WOW! Climb a 97-meter wall!

    • @dvdraymond
      @dvdraymond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad I'm not the only one who heard it that way in his head :)

  • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
    @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Dammit.."
    ~The Chieftain, 2022
    I love this guy.... Heavens forbid a zombie apocalypse or post WW3 scenario ever happens, but if it does, I want this guy on my team of survivors.

  • @exharkhun5605
    @exharkhun5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm confused, what's wrong with the sleeping space on the engine deck? Seems roomy and flat and with a whole load of rubber head rests. Great job on the double helping of track tensioning info!

    • @charchadonto
      @charchadonto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you look closely there are plenty of little bumps/ridges or narrow spaces to make things uncomfortable or give you one hell of a backpain the next morning

    • @exharkhun5605
      @exharkhun5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charchadonto I'm sure I've seen him declare way bumbier and ridgier engine decks as perfectly fine to sleep on in the past, ones without rubber headrests even. Personally I blame him getting older, I know I can't sleep on the same mat I used to take to festivals anymore, my back would be killing me. So do we need a new, younger and more limber Chieftain to do our engine-deck-sleepability assessments for us now?
      Or do we quietly decide that none of us are spry enough to ever sleep on an engine deck without getting a monumental case of the gyp?

    • @mitternacht4062
      @mitternacht4062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Once you put your roll mat down it's not too bad, but it's far from a queensize bed. The engine will keep you warmer than the ground would, and as long as you waterproof yourself there's little risk of getting wet. On the ground if it rains you can get streams that find their way into your sleep space and that's no fun when you get woken up for stag duty at 3 in the morning.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@exharkhun5605 Maybe another upgrade program? Turning him into a Mk6 or Mk9 depending on if you consixer his promotion an upgrade or a new paintjob ;)

    • @exharkhun5605
      @exharkhun5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mbr5742 As he seems to enjoy British military nomenclature so much I propose we include at least a few **'s.

  • @hobblesofkarth3943
    @hobblesofkarth3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Soldier1 in the background: why is there a Lt. Colonel on top of that tank?
    Soldier 2: If you don't look at him, he can't hurt you! Quick, look busy!

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Simply replacing Chieftan's engine would be a great improvement.

  • @martindice5424
    @martindice5424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good show sir!
    The foibles are British.
    We do that. 👍👍

    • @martindice5424
      @martindice5424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also.
      To bring this all up to date - wasn’t the Chally 1 the tanks we nicked off the Iranians after the ‘Islamic Revolution’ in 1979? Hence several British Iranian citizens being held under bogus ‘spying’ charges until we ‘suddenly’ decided to pay up?🤔🤔

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Great video. Maybe you need a head mounted binocular telescope to read your teleprompter. 🧐 Getting older and needing magnifying optics for some tasks is fun, isn’t it? 🙂

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Chieftain, could you do or have a guest speaker talk about armor column logistics? Just wondering about how you figure out what it takes to get from point A to B.
    PS1- What are your thoughts on Ukrainian conflict? Also in WW2 documentaries there were always references to the impact of weather when fighting on the Eastern front, seems comments on Spring mud are lacking so far.
    PS2 - Were US Marines correct in deleting tanks from their inventory?
    Appreciate your video series!

    • @cm275
      @cm275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He said in his last Q&A he was holding off on analysis of the war in Ukraine until things settle down and reliable information and declassified assessments start becoming available so it might be awhile before we get videos on that topic.

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He touched on the question about the US Marines in one of his Q&A’s. Can’t help you with which one though

  • @kevinizatt4358
    @kevinizatt4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still planning on going to the museum in Dubois Wyoming? Went there for my b-day and loved it. Several rare items, some extremely so.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I went over the summer. The owner has denied me permission to film there, so I just went as a visitor to check the place out

  • @ianjardine7324
    @ianjardine7324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:00 while the front bolt for the side plates is welded in place all e others should be free floating in a steel mounting block retained by two roll pins giving enough play to make mounting the plates easier even as they become deformed during use and making replacing damaged nuts an easy crew level repair.

  • @dennisvandermarkt8263
    @dennisvandermarkt8263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Made my day !!!!!!!!

  • @Zsub1
    @Zsub1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you kept in the bloopers :D

  • @commander31able60
    @commander31able60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want to see that BMP in the back.

    • @cm275
      @cm275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know he did a Chieftain’s Shorts video on the BMP back on the World of Tanks Channel but I really want a full Inside the Hatch on that BMP-1 as well.
      However, Solfien did a video on a BMP-2 recently that’s pretty good.

  • @MajesticDemonLord
    @MajesticDemonLord 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Get the Tea Lads, he's doing on of ours!*

  • @ThroneOfBhaal
    @ThroneOfBhaal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of dangerous madman paints over the lenses on lights. :O

  • @stumptrash3199
    @stumptrash3199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    15:36 like calling every piece of military equipment M1?

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill3257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do of course understand ,Bruce, you now have to make toadtank patches and decals . I'd say just a camouflage pattern toad with a m1 Abrams gun turret on the back would suffice.

  • @simonrook5743
    @simonrook5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lounging on the turret brought to mind Kelly’s heroes!
    Of course Donald Sutherland was Irish as well, must be something in the Jameson’s!

  • @zephod
    @zephod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will certainly never mention the fact the sneaky fact you mentioned. I for one would never want to abduct Challenger, and responsibly information sharing is all that keeps us from having awesome military hardware of our very own.

  • @roo1975
    @roo1975 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the modern AVRE and AVLB the track tension is hydraulic done by the driver. It as easy as a flick of a switch

  • @alluraambrose2978
    @alluraambrose2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What would happen if you are very brave(not me) and you'd face one of these in combat and crawled up to it and pulled the outside fire extinguisher, would it disable the tank?

    • @ARCNA442
      @ARCNA442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I had the same thought when I saw that.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Okay so now you have flooded the tank with foam. That means you have messed with the crews tea. So now they will come out and seek out whoever messed with their tea.
      No one is brave enough to risk THAT

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mbr5742 No fear! Never mess with a Pom, Aussie or Kiwi and their cup of tea! Not unless you have a death wish at any rate.

  • @SP-xy7yh
    @SP-xy7yh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So 200 liters of non usable fuel? Would that be non usable on flat terrain or up and down hills? Maybe they need a clunk (gravitational fuel finding device)

  • @NumericCubic
    @NumericCubic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A friend I played BF2 with many years ago served in the first Iraq war, and he said that they would attach claymores to the rear end of the tank.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahhh BF2...the best one, before it all got too realistic and pixel peep was required to spot stuff. I still play a bot match now and then.

  • @1701enter
    @1701enter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you see the British finally repaid money from this project to Iran... that was what let the Lady hostage finally come home. I can't believe the paint job! and love a good blooper excellent wok thanks

  • @georgedoolittle9015
    @georgedoolittle9015 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "just keep larding up on the nickel" absolutely

  • @lord-heller647
    @lord-heller647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait for part two 😅

  • @pawelkrupowicz2539
    @pawelkrupowicz2539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beacon light? I'm pretty sure it's a crosswind sensor, similar to the one used on M60A3 and very early Leopard 2s. It was not present on production Challengers.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That was my first thought as well, but after I looked at it more closely, it seemed to me that it was a beacon without the actual bulb bit attached. And, of course, there are as you say no meteorological sensors on either Chieftain or Challenger. (Though manual FCS entries can be made)

    • @thewomble1509
      @thewomble1509 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheChieftainsHatch C2 has a met probe.

  • @tonychapman1259
    @tonychapman1259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think on this occasion the #Chieftain was obviously against this particular tank. Maybe if we stuck a Stars and Stripes upon the hatch then maybe?🙏🏻

  • @williammcdorman6426
    @williammcdorman6426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can unlock a m60 with a hammer, smack the opening for the loaders vision block and it will pop open, reach in and unlock the hatch.

  • @williamtwiggs8813
    @williamtwiggs8813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn, you got me, 7:36

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think Coventry Climax H30 No4 Mk18h is bad, there are also 18ha, hm, hr & hs versions...

  • @igoryst3049
    @igoryst3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i'm assembling a scale model of the Challenger, maybe this will help me with details

    • @Masada1911
      @Masada1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eyyyy thats awesome, Hope it goes really well

    • @womble321
      @womble321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be careful as operational tanks were different.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just helped with mine (Tamiya Challenger 1Mk3). The paint instructions did not tell me the rubber thingies are black. Or that there are pull tabs in the front cutouts.

  • @Redlin5
    @Redlin5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The idea of breaking into a Challenger is very hilarious to me

  • @jameswhymark4507
    @jameswhymark4507 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Love the chally 1.

  • @RogueBrit
    @RogueBrit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Challenger 2 had track bushings, there was a Challenger 1 fitted with Deal live track. Which would curl over when split. Regular Challenger 1 was not fitted with live track

    • @alanmorris9425
      @alanmorris9425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just for accuracy Deal the track manufacturer is spelt Diehl, a German company which was sold to Krauss-Maffei Wegmann in the last decade. Krauss-Maffei Wegmann build Leopard 2

  • @ScottKenny1978
    @ScottKenny1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The nitrogen charge handles large bumps, the hydraulic fluid is for smaller bumps.

  • @CssHDmonster
    @CssHDmonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice to see a prototype but also sad to see the sheer amount of rust

  • @blackcountryme
    @blackcountryme ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a challenger (or Kalid) prototype for sale on the internet needs putting together....

  • @CaptainSeato
    @CaptainSeato 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:05 onwards - Oh, all those lost & confused LTs...

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are enlisted recruits... easy to confuse the two, mind

  • @michaelfrench3396
    @michaelfrench3396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muff de-coupler Is my secret nickname for my 3-year-old. 🤫

  • @victorbloom8286
    @victorbloom8286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When did they move the Armour Museum from Knox . My First Tank was The Great M60A3 in 1973 .

  • @stevebotham2018
    @stevebotham2018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Track tensioning at the front blasphemy lol JK

  • @sebastianshimmings5075
    @sebastianshimmings5075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The locking latches at 14:50ish are just done by hand, no special tools needed

  • @danieltaylor5231
    @danieltaylor5231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really liking the modern vehicles. Any chance of a farm tractor or two?

  • @canuck600A
    @canuck600A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this is a gross point, but could the refuse ejection port be used to get rid of human waste? I imagine that could be a problem if you're locked in there for several days?

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm pretty sure that was what he was implying. I'm sure it would be used to get rid of that and other small trash like MRE cans. Don't want food waste putrefying in the closed air of a sealed tank. Not healthy.

  • @88porpoise
    @88porpoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems like a pretty good tank to be stuck in for a few days. Hot chow and removal of the aftermath?

  • @SamGray
    @SamGray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well, I admit that the US Military seems to be basically continuing as usual:
    "Should we repaint this tank?"
    "Nah, let's just get some beers."
    Later...
    "Aaagggghhhhh! You lazy privates! Paint this vehicle! You have 37 seconds!"

  • @ThePsiclone
    @ThePsiclone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love it or hate it, its hard to think of a better looking tank.
    You know, apart from the 50 people are about to comment with. Ok , go on...

  • @MisteriosGloriosos922
    @MisteriosGloriosos922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Thanks for sharing informative video. Liked&Subcribed!!!!*

  • @ricardobimblesticks1489
    @ricardobimblesticks1489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just adore the outro. Keep that sht up :D For me it adds so much to the rest of the Impeccable standard of your content.
    It's a bit of a tangent but it kinda reminds me of the best parts of Burt Reynolds movies that were such a big part of my youth.
    Gush over peace out :D

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      East bound in a NATO tank...