It's worth noting that while Rock and Ice Pikmin are parasitic, they are still part of the Pikminidae genus like the other core Pikmin types, while bulbmin are part of the Parasiticus genus.
@@itsdripnovababy Bulbmin were part of the Pikmin family, alongside all the other Pikmin, who only got scientific names in 4. While the Pikminicus species is a bit strange, they're were clearly distinguished at the genus level. I think if they wanted to, Nintendo could have put rock and ice pikmin in the Parasiticus genus. Until bulbmin are in another game, and their scientific name changed, I'm assuming this is intentional. At minimum though, they're recognized as different species, rather than subspecies, or even just different hosts like the moldy slooch.
@@nyon7209 These scientific names aren't meant to be taken that seriously (after all, the Watery Blowhog is explicitly a subspecies of Fiery Blowhog and yet has a whole different scientific name). The devs care about the creatures' families and whatnot, but the genera seem to be mostly decoration. Anyways, in Japan, the technical names for these Pikmin are basically "Parasitic Pikmin", "Rock Parasitic Pikmin" and "Ice Parasitic Pikmin", so there's clearly supposed to be a connection there.
I would like to note that whenever the Pikmin 3 concept art talks about "building" they are specifically referring to the bridge/pot building mechanic introduced in Pikmin 3. During early development the mechanic was a lot different and instead of carrying the bridge pieces to the location of the bridge like a line of ants, they would pick up the pieces and follow the captain around kinda like they did with bomb rocks.
The boss fight with Mr. L min was the most climatic fight of the franchise. The way the dimensional rift open up and Mario stepped out and said “ you’re part of a bigger Nintendo franchise” and had super smash brothers Be cannon was absolute bonkers.
@@Wario-The-Legend i'd like to connect these two ideas in some way, maybe bring back a sort of subtle gender detail where male pikmin become onions and female pikmin become candypop buds
I never actually paid attention that Rock and Ice Pikmin were the parasitic Pikmin using Rocks and Ice for defense, and that they were called Hermikmin! Thats really cool!
Amazing video! I love Pikmin type talk! However you missed a few. - E3 2013 Beta Rock Pikmin - Winged Pikmin were originally Orange - The Ghost Pikmin that turns your team invisible in 2 player battles. - Golden PikPik Carrots
I always thought pikmin was going for a child's first claymation aesthetic but Tim Burton's makes perfect sense. Gattling groinks design finally makes sense.
the amount of Pikmin types that could have been and might be is amazing there are a lot more that I originally though I knew about some scrapped ones and all of the ones we can use in game but some of these I have never seen. I feel that before they even think of adding some of these they should try and balance the old Pikmin types the balancing in each game gets worse and worse I hate to think about how awfully balanced they will be in Pikmin 5. Also would love to see more ice burg videos like this an idea I would suggest is unused content for the Pikmin series like Bulbmin in Pikmin 3 yellow bulborbs in Pikmin 2 and that weird thing that spits rocks that is left in the code of Pikmin 1.
12:09 That Pikmin design looks quite similar to the icon used when your Pikmin are invisible in Pikmin 2's Battle Mode Also, I don't know if you take video ideas, but an cool idea this video gave me is the possibility of ranking every Pikmin's "best game" (ie, Purples being 2 and Rocks being 3, particularly 3 on the Wii U, since I've read they were nerfed in Deluxe. Idk if those are accurate, but those are just random examples.) Either way, great video!
My favorite moment in Pikmin was when I threw a red pikmin in a blue candypop bud. But then, Moss came by and said, “You’ll never be a blue pikmin.” Poor fella got wrecked by facts and logic.
I feel like nintendo really dropped the ball with glow pikmin and night missions. The idea of a specific species of nocturnal Pikmin was a great idea, b u t using them for a very short tower defense section was very bland. The night mode got pretty boring after a little while since there really wasn't any changes other than bigger stronger enemies. The nights also didn't last too long. If you were really good at murder, you could finish a night in less than a minute. It would've been really cool if the night gimmick had you break obstacles only glow pikmin could break while you had to deal with stronger enemies.
SInce you mentioned the Bulbmin-Bulblax swimming thing eventually making its way into Pikmin 4 with Oatchi, I also want to point that in the Dwarf Bulborb's piklopedia notes for Pikmin 3, Brittany suggests the idea of riding on its back, which I think may have been the inspiration for the other thing Oatchi does
I'm gonna guess thats from the Colossal caverns mod. Its essentially a single floor challenge to grab every treasure in the game, Theres tons of customization options and even a secret game mode, the password revealed to you after you beat the game.
If you're wondering, the idea of purple pikmin being black was scrapped because of possible...racial implications...that may come from it. Nintendo likely remembered a similar scandal with the Pokemon Jynx and were like "nope".
7:01 wouldn’t Bulbmin count as Orange? Knowing that their sprouts are Orange, and cursor when they are at the front of your squad is orange? I know they don’t have an Onion, but it would make sense since there aren’t any official Orange Pikmin yet
Potentially but some people think they might be green. We will have to wait for Nintendo to confirm what the Parasite Pikmin look like to make a conclusion
@@imonlyhereforpikminwell in Pikmin 2 when disbanded their Leaf Glow Color is green, And when checking the map their square is green too But strangely the Cone color above the circle redical in Pikmin 2 is orange
17:34 "its crazy how this design has technically been with us since the very beginning but we never noticed" and also since the very beginning weve had the model of the all black pikmin seen in the recently released concept art in the files of pikmin 1 but no one whos seen it has documented it up until now.
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0:50 though to be honest I rather like the joke entries and would love to see how Pikmin play into the lore of MK ultra. Maybe you could do a video on it in the future?
in German, the candypop buds are called Königinnenblume, which translates to Queen Flower. This could be a nod to pikmin becoming candypop buds in later stages of their life
honestly i kind of hope thye bring back the god/colony sim aspect of pikmin as a spin off, where rather then having a specfiic goal your just a leafling trying to raise up a colony, and maybe let you place and build structures around your colony with the resources you gather
The Bean Pikmins ability, Constructing Bridges and Ropes with their body’s, I think that was a theory (I think) in Pikmin 4 there’s a couple names in the files about some kinda pikmin projectiles maybe belonging too the bean pikmin because of the fact that they’re in the flies in the pikmin table.
11:10 I actually didnt know this was a consept, which makes me feel less special for thinking of it before i knew. Although i think it would work better if it was more like a enemy that disguises itself as a candypop bud
I know the Pikmin, as a non player, are funky lil guys. And the blue Pikmin must always be put in harms way for some reason?? What does Nintendo have against the blue guys???
you forgot to include that miyamoto wanted to originally call pikmin pikeman and make olimar say “pikes should take a hike” on the game cover
This concept was later repurposed for Fiddle! Me This, a 2D spinoff title for the Fiddlebert's Racist Wonderland series
@@justsomewheel9379 In that game there were dark skinned bulborbs as the main antagonists.
I really hope you're not joking.
@@mrman2476that’s just orange bulborbs.
Is... Is that a slur
It's worth noting that while Rock and Ice Pikmin are parasitic, they are still part of the Pikminidae genus like the other core Pikmin types, while bulbmin are part of the Parasiticus genus.
And their species is Pikminicus. I honestly think this was kinda a mistake??
@@itsdripnovababy I think Olimar just doesn't know shit about taxonomy
@@gracecollins6891 bahahaha, accurate
@@itsdripnovababy Bulbmin were part of the Pikmin family, alongside all the other Pikmin, who only got scientific names in 4. While the Pikminicus species is a bit strange, they're were clearly distinguished at the genus level.
I think if they wanted to, Nintendo could have put rock and ice pikmin in the Parasiticus genus. Until bulbmin are in another game, and their scientific name changed, I'm assuming this is intentional.
At minimum though, they're recognized as different species, rather than subspecies, or even just different hosts like the moldy slooch.
@@nyon7209 These scientific names aren't meant to be taken that seriously (after all, the Watery Blowhog is explicitly a subspecies of Fiery Blowhog and yet has a whole different scientific name). The devs care about the creatures' families and whatnot, but the genera seem to be mostly decoration. Anyways, in Japan, the technical names for these Pikmin are basically "Parasitic Pikmin", "Rock Parasitic Pikmin" and "Ice Parasitic Pikmin", so there's clearly supposed to be a connection there.
It kind of killed me when you said that pikmin being based off of ants in miyamoto's garden was a marketing lie 😭
I would like to note that whenever the Pikmin 3 concept art talks about "building" they are specifically referring to the bridge/pot building mechanic introduced in Pikmin 3.
During early development the mechanic was a lot different and instead of carrying the bridge pieces to the location of the bridge like a line of ants, they would pick up the pieces and follow the captain around kinda like they did with bomb rocks.
I remember playing Pikmin 6 in 2047. I'd always use the Luigi Pikmin against enemies and also played as the secret captain, Evil Olimar. Good times.
I get that Evil Olimar isn’t supposed to be a good person. But his remarks regarding the Balkans really have not aged well.
bro that was the good times man. now the new pikmin games have the boring stuff and weird stuff that are insanely op for some reason.
The boss fight with Mr. L min was the most climatic fight of the franchise. The way the dimensional rift open up and Mario stepped out and said “ you’re part of a bigger Nintendo franchise” and had super smash brothers Be cannon was absolute bonkers.
wtf are this… guys
@@JamesGlover-t6l it are pikmin
I always thought the invisible pikmin in pikmin 1 were pikmin who became LOST MEDIA
OH NO LOST MEDIA!!
I DON'T WANT TO BECOME LOST MEDIA😭😤
*AAAAAAAAAA*
0:00 "one of the most famous things about Pikmin is the Pikmin"
Thank you, I never could have guessed.
My personal theory about candypop buds is that when a pikmin is left in the ground for too long they evolve into candypops
I thought this, but instead they become onions.
@@Wario-The-Legend i'd like to connect these two ideas in some way, maybe bring back a sort of subtle gender detail where male pikmin become onions and female pikmin become candypop buds
does that mean if you were to take a candypop bud out of the ground there would be a pikmin underneath
@@PhantomOfficial07biblically accurate pikmin let's go
@@davidthecommenter I wonder, what would make the onions male and the candypop buds female?
15:46 I’m sorry this entire thing can be taken out of context, and this is the funniest thing
Glow Pikmin hate joke is funny
No! Unacceptable!
@@wii-u-enjoyer glows are batter than bulbmin
@@volvoman5262 one is cuter. (hint: it has a b at the start of its name)
@@moonecakes3749 one can teleport
@@volvoman5262Glows are batter, you say? Well then why don't we make a glow cake!
I never actually paid attention that Rock and Ice Pikmin were the parasitic Pikmin using Rocks and Ice for defense, and that they were called Hermikmin!
Thats really cool!
Nice
there not actual parasites
@@Just_a_guy909yeah I don't think there are parasites over there either
How do you parasitize a rock?
@@pepperonipizza8200 they never implied that
this dingus said "humans" for what leaflings were before they got pikminified
Reminded me of the old purple pikmin rumour in pikmin one somehow
Amazing video! I love Pikmin type talk! However you missed a few.
- E3 2013 Beta Rock Pikmin
- Winged Pikmin were originally Orange
- The Ghost Pikmin that turns your team invisible in 2 player battles.
- Golden PikPik Carrots
15:31 I think that this design is used in Pikmin bloom where you feed Pikmin different types of nectar and they get different flowers
Yeah i was wondering why they didn't mention that
I always thought pikmin was going for a child's first claymation aesthetic but Tim Burton's makes perfect sense. Gattling groinks design finally makes sense.
the amount of Pikmin types that could have been and might be is amazing there are a lot more that I originally though I knew about some scrapped ones and all of the ones we can use in game but some of these I have never seen. I feel that before they even think of adding some of these they should try and balance the old Pikmin types the balancing in each game gets worse and worse I hate to think about how awfully balanced they will be in Pikmin 5. Also would love to see more ice burg videos like this an idea I would suggest is unused content for the Pikmin series like Bulbmin in Pikmin 3 yellow bulborbs in Pikmin 2 and that weird thing that spits rocks that is left in the code of Pikmin 1.
I wonder how different the Pikmin series would be today if they stuck with the old Tim Burton-esque art style.
16:00 Looks to me like these four pikmin concepts are based off the four elements: fire, earth, air, and water.
12:09 That Pikmin design looks quite similar to the icon used when your Pikmin are invisible in Pikmin 2's Battle Mode
Also, I don't know if you take video ideas, but an cool idea this video gave me is the possibility of ranking every Pikmin's "best game" (ie, Purples being 2 and Rocks being 3, particularly 3 on the Wii U, since I've read they were nerfed in Deluxe. Idk if those are accurate, but those are just random examples.)
Either way, great video!
My favorite moment in Pikmin was when I threw a red pikmin in a blue candypop bud. But then, Moss came by and said, “You’ll never be a blue pikmin.” Poor fella got wrecked by facts and logic.
6:47
It’s actually the opposite. BLUE Pikmin in 2’s VS Mode are given 1.5x attack power.
This is the best video I’ve ever seen like for real this video is so underrated but so amazing
Pikmin lore starting with Adam and Eve literally will never not be amazing
I feel like nintendo really dropped the ball with glow pikmin and night missions. The idea of a specific species of nocturnal Pikmin was a great idea, b u t using them for a very short tower defense section was very bland. The night mode got pretty boring after a little while since there really wasn't any changes other than bigger stronger enemies. The nights also didn't last too long. If you were really good at murder, you could finish a night in less than a minute. It would've been really cool if the night gimmick had you break obstacles only glow pikmin could break while you had to deal with stronger enemies.
Glow pikmin? *NO UNACCEPTABLE*
Great video, the white hooded pikmin was a crazy concept!
Clickbait. Expected iceberg Pikmin as seen in the thumbnail.
My favourite Pikmin is the thiccmin
Gotta be one of my favourite gender
SInce you mentioned the Bulbmin-Bulblax swimming thing eventually making its way into Pikmin 4 with Oatchi, I also want to point that in the Dwarf Bulborb's piklopedia notes for Pikmin 3, Brittany suggests the idea of riding on its back, which I think may have been the inspiration for the other thing Oatchi does
Morshu and vaporeon replacing olimar and louie in the background lmfao what a awesome mod. Do you have a link for them? I wanna try it out
I'm gonna guess thats from the Colossal caverns mod. Its essentially a single floor challenge to grab every treasure in the game, Theres tons of customization options and even a secret game mode, the password revealed to you after you beat the game.
1:09 the fact that it's the blue mouth pikmin of all things makes this even worse
I liked the part with the Pikmin
It pleases me greatly that this channel exists.
Adam and Maluigi.
Awesome video really enjoyed.
i hope they add fiddlebert back in the next game
Can’t believe the ant story by Miyamoto was just for marketing
13:12 it was said this type has a carapace, but um… isn’t this little guy a mushroom?
Every time I see Vaporeon I think of that damn copypasta
7:10 “…colors such as orange, which do not have an associated pikmin type…”
Literally less than 10 seconds later: “pikpik carrots”
How can I laugh at this? There’s no LOST MEDIA *AAAUUUUGGGGH*
If you're wondering, the idea of purple pikmin being black was scrapped because of possible...racial implications...that may come from it. Nintendo likely remembered a similar scandal with the Pokemon Jynx and were like "nope".
7:01 wouldn’t Bulbmin count as Orange? Knowing that their sprouts are Orange, and cursor when they are at the front of your squad is orange? I know they don’t have an Onion, but it would make sense since there aren’t any official Orange Pikmin yet
Potentially but some people think they might be green. We will have to wait for Nintendo to confirm what the Parasite Pikmin look like to make a conclusion
@@imonlyhereforpikminwell in Pikmin 2 when disbanded their Leaf Glow Color is green, And when checking the map their square is green too
But strangely the Cone color above the circle redical in Pikmin 2 is orange
This guy is literally the pikmim version of cyber shell
17:34 "its crazy how this design has technically been with us since the very beginning but we never noticed" and also since the very beginning weve had the model of the all black pikmin seen in the recently released concept art in the files of pikmin 1 but no one whos seen it has documented it up until now.
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I like how you put awesome Sega Genesis music in your videos.
0:50 though to be honest I rather like the joke entries and would love to see how Pikmin play into the lore of MK ultra. Maybe you could do a video on it in the future?
in German, the candypop buds are called Königinnenblume, which translates to Queen Flower. This could be a nod to pikmin becoming candypop buds in later stages of their life
honestly i kind of hope thye bring back the god/colony sim aspect of pikmin as a spin off, where rather then having a specfiic goal your just a leafling trying to raise up a colony, and maybe let you place and build structures around your colony with the resources you gather
The depraved depths of the Pikmin iceberg
the first ever pikmin design resembles a zoombini, very 90s!
Pikmin also has some similar elements to the zoombinis game: Solving puzzles with your creatures and trying to keep them alive in the process.
epic video reminds of Minecraft With Gadget Iceberg
11:00 you know, looking at that art, each Pikmin is a different color.
Is that a orange pikmin!? 10:59
1:58 I thought Pikmin 4 was a retcon, so the other onions should no longer be cannon
That group of very early pikmin before pikmin one are so interesting
I always wanted a fire pikmin! And seeing one based on poisonous tree frogs is really cool!
what do you think each pikmin smells like. please make a video going over each one
This would be interesting. Some might smell floral, or spicy, or earthy.
Would rock and ice even smell
this is a peak pikmin youtuber
This is what I live for.
The Bean Pikmins ability, Constructing Bridges and Ropes with their body’s, I think that was a theory (I think) in Pikmin 4 there’s a couple names in the files about some kinda pikmin projectiles maybe belonging too the bean pikmin because of the fact that they’re in the flies in the pikmin table.
Finally the true pikman info
What is the music used at 7:09?
do you have the links to the concept/not used design and mechanics for the games?
subscribed for RAW pikmin knowledge
I really hope Pikmin 5 has some sort of weather mechanic similar to Pikmin 3 or what not.
15:48 Pikmin Racism
i love the way you say baguette
you’re videos are really funny
11:10 I actually didnt know this was a consept, which makes me feel less special for thinking of it before i knew. Although i think it would work better if it was more like a enemy that disguises itself as a candypop bud
I was not ready for the 2000's Adult Swim bumper track.
15:46 that stab was personal
Hm! Youre the first person Ive heard call the people in pikmin “human”.
Is there any proof of this? Curious what it looks like. 8:14
www.pikminwiki.com/Glitches_in_Pikmin
Couldn't find a video but the first section here talks about it
@@imonlyhereforpikminIs it the counter glitch?
@@Sack_of_Fancy_Glitter Yeah
Thank you.
16:30 zoombinis
what is the music at delving deeper
Why did bro just throw in mkultra 😭
Wasn't it noted in the Pikmin 4 piklopedia (or somewhere else in the game) that glow pikmin aren't pikmin?
His three sounds like tree
does anyone know the song names of the songs used at 0:51 and 7:50
I know 0:51 is called Happy Happy Birthday
@@megahedgehog2039 cant really seem to find it mostly since the names to generic
I'm surprised you didn't actually put an entry for the debug Windows version of Pikmin 1
Gensei_Control is actually meant for the bean pikmin, as their ability was *actually* to possess creatures
What’s funny is that I knew everything from the top and the bottom but very little from the middle
I know the Pikmin, as a non player, are funky lil guys. And the blue Pikmin must always be put in harms way for some reason?? What does Nintendo have against the blue guys???
7:39 What song is this?
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lol I realized you already replied to me with this in the last video. Cheers!
Good and informative video
Maybe Pikmin 5 will be time we get Orange Pikmin,nit really does look like they were considering it a lot
11:02 orange and another type of purple pikmin
Was that page the only thing in the notebook? Because I haven't seen anything else ever mentioned about it.
It was the only Pikmin related thing, yes
Huh. Bummer.
Every copy of Pikmin 2 is personalized
this "iceberg" was a little too "reading the manual of the gmaes" for my taste
Song name around 1:00?
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You forgot about the very real Louie Apparition which can be summoned when you kill 1995.2 Bulbmin in Uranium Kitchen.
Take a shot whenever he says Pikmin
The original pikmin design clearly was recycled for those guys in Paper Mario TTYD who even behaved similar to pikmin
fun fact: Pikmin 1 was originally the sequel to Mario 64
Bagwette
wait… what about fiddlebert?
Got cancelled on Twitter
Fiddlebert is not a pikmin, thusly probably why he wasn't included
Oatchi is a bulbmin confirmed.