TnT Railgun Using Minecraft's Quantum Mechanics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2023
- Here's a cool idea, how about we build an armour piercing TnT railgun using what I consider to be Minecraft's quantum mechanics. In this video we explore how we can use advanced subtick mechanics to manipulate redstone to do things your average redstoner could only dream of.
Check out Space Walker's paper about subtick mechanics to learn more:
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Schematic of the Prototype cannon:
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I also had some help from the experts at the TnT archive:
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Imagine turning this into a tnt world eater. Just build the machine, flick a switch, and boom, a whole 32x32 chunk vaporized
Liquids: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
@@jorvp but then you just go and get rid of the liquids and fire again. It's kinda like the lava clearing phase of a regular world eater.
@@memyselfishness Obsidian: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@@defeatSpace do same thing as liquid cuz that also happens in regular world eater
It would be very cool!
Even if you had to make a chunk without obsidian nor liquids for it
There is actually an entire small Technical Minecraft community around this. They build "War Gears". Basically huge Buildings with lots of different TNT Cannons. Then they shot each other robots with the cannons and who ever gets destroyed first loses. There are a lot of different concepts for cannons and a lot of different rules for the different communities. I am from Germany and I have only been active in some small German communities, but maybe there are some English communities as well. I am sure you would be able to build some fantastic advanced cannons.
a weapon to surpass Metal Gear…
Link?
@@dinamiteurdinamiteur2324 th-cam.com/video/PfF_jrZ7nYc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WarTech
*Deutsche Präzisionstechnik*
Ofc its the germans lmfaoo
7:45 I love the subtle jab at regular redstoners.
We are a part of the "programmer that likes to break game mechanics" community.
the "intended game design" players vs the "actual game mechanics" players :D
@@YounesLayachi the hermitcraft vs scicraft in a nutshell
@@Mr_Reaps25 Docm77 exists
@@gammafoxlore2981 That's why I love watching his videos. Just seeing everyone else react to the crazy stuff you can do with the game
Yet no one mentioned mumbojumbo in the background at that scene
How dare you attack my gadget man Mumbo
I was searching for this comment lol
Mumbo's the BEST gadget man, and also has an incredible mustache.
Go-go-gadgeto-Mumbo 🕵♂️->->->->🤜
@@loucantnot bro 💀
@@moonsvc ye it me, am a Mumbro
This slander against Mumbo by cubic meter will not be tolerated.
As many people have already commented, the Minecraft Minigame "WarGear" combines cannons like these (and more powerful ones) with "regular" redstone engineering and some PvP elements into a whole Gamemode.
If you'd like, we can give you and your community a deeper dive on the subject and show you some of our WarGear projects.
- Kaltenstein and Miny___ from WarTech
sadly i dont speak german, wish i could become a part
Huh
Don’t trust wt, trust dpr…
Must of us speak german and we already have some emglish players we wouldnt mind if you joint us
do you have any players who have TH-cam in English you suggest? I'd like to learn more about this kinda sutff
@@Simon_4ZX
At the end of the video when you described clearing out a whole plain, it reminded me of how modern pearl cannons work. Just have multiple aligned quantities of tnt that launch the payload. Then adjust quantities for angle. Would be cool to see that in conjunction with this tnt cannon.
Soon: "Bypassing the worldborder to access the farlands in Minecraft 1.19+"
True
Anyone interested in tnt cannons should go have a look at some of the advanced cannons you would see in factions servers. I remember some of them were designed specifically to fire the tnt in an L shape trajectory such as was mentioned at the end of this video, as well as some other really cool tech such as firing sand alongside the tnt so that the sand can clear any water away and make sure the tnt can explode
You mean wall remover cannons?
This video seems to discuss something similar to tunnel cannons
Factions is underrated for more or less inventing all of the modern concepts but still dying
Also horizontal nukes, vertical nukes, pseudo nukes, and tunnel cannons
@@dragoni_penguin for the L shape I was thinking more of upshot cannons that could exploit a base or its walls not reaching all the way to y=0.
It's pretty sad that factions died off the way it did although pretty predictable given just how pay2win all the big servers became :(
@@fl00ds reversing?
Or alien tech where backboards aren't destroyed
@@dragoni_penguin that might've been what it was called. It's been so long since I last was involved in all that I've completely forgotten what stuff was called
@@fl00ds You're thinking of reverse lefty cannons
This made me think of the scicraft's ender pearl cannon. They mentioned that the pearl travels so fast it skips multiple chunks per tick so they don't need to load them. Applying this to TNT, could it be possible to create an explosion behind a wall without damaging the wall itself?
I would love seeing that too, a "Houdini bomb", that **teleports behind you** and explodes
No, even when traveling super fast Minecraft still calculates colissions. But, if TNT should travel 10 blocks south and 10 blocks east in the same tick, it will do it in order instead of diagonaly, which allows for some kind of wall sikpping.
@@M_1024 Well, that's a shame. Also means no insta-killing behind a wall arrow cannons. Although, Cubicmetre's shaped explosion is impressive enough by itself
@@tooFarGonexk4he4tu3s actualy, its possible with arrows. If arrow hits an enderman its colissions are disable for one tick so if its fast enough it can go through wall. You can see Docm77's hermitcraft 9 episode for more info
@@M_1024 wow that is interesting. And, considering the speeds already achieved with arrow cannons, it should be possible to skip many layers of blocks in this single tick
The WarGear community has played with this mechanic since 2012 and has built some incredible things. It is full of smart minds looking to create the smallest, most versitile, most effective and most efficient TNT cannons possible. I you are interested in this sort of technical minecraft then i can only recommend.
Well they used it back in 1.7 I think but it wasn’t understood as well
We call something similar factions in most other places but we generally stay in the 1.7-1.8 range. Used to get 3k people on servers but dying down to a few hundred nowadays.
@@dragoni_penguin you can't compare the factions and WarGear community
@@EgalTv imo I feel it's about the same concept and development
@@dragoni_penguin There are many differents, for example which cannon types are useful in the Wargear scene and some arent
Have you ever heard of the Wargear scene? It's a scene that "specializes" purely in TNT canons. But it is pretty unknown
It' literally mentioned in every comment lol
@@paulkanja I know pretty unknown but everyone in the comments seems to know about it lmfao.
@@courier3567 Ig it's because Steamwar and planetplay guys are the ones most likely to have tc on this kind of videos
@@paulkanja Mostly because they want praise and recognition for stuff that "definitely" exists, without having to show you any of it, kinda pathetic tbh
@@pew6534 they don't need to "show" it, i'd just like to see cubme mess around with wargear cannons and see what weird contraptions they could inspire him to make,, and f off wit yo attitude fore i decide to bring blue muskland to yt
This brings back memories of faction TNT cannons we used to build. All sort of them to fit the base design the other teams had built.
That casual mumbo burn has me rolling man
As bastisas comment already mentioned the german wargear community has been making tnt cannons with subticks mechanics for years now. For example the phaenomenon at 10:52 is called a 'stich sprengkopf'. There are dozen of videos on youtube about wargears, especially on the myplayplanet youtube channel, which is the only wargear server. I hope you have a great time with your further cannons :D
Serverhate nicht nötig danke
SteamWar existiert doch auch noch, oder?
@@bausteinmeister4145 natürlich ist meiner Meinung nach sogar besser der nette Herr da oben kann sich den hate nur nicht verkneifen
it's called warhead or flank-/down-/up-/backworm in English, if I am not mistaken
@@bastisas1023 ich wär mir nicht sicher dass Mmonu Steamwar überhaupt kennt 😂der is schon länger nicht mehr aktiv
Cool video and great explanation! I just wanted to point out that this concept has been heavily explored back in 1.8 factions. We would typically use just normal repeaters and comparators to get that effect, and amplify it so that it reaches 20+ chunks. Try searching "factions tunnel cannon 30 chunks" ( or "30 Row Wall Remover" to see an example of one of the more advanced ideas you were hinting at ). It's amazing seeing stuff like this come to light years later! :D
Wow, just looked at that video! That's crazy!
ah yes another cannoning gamer been a while since I played factions or designed a cannon
Thank you. I’m tired of people taking our glory. Ie: going invis and scheming someone else’s cannon then figuring out how it works to show case in a vid… or on their base. Never using a public track of land again. I’ve lost too many cannons. I should know, I build with VERY atypical blocks to TM my cannons.
@@emmetmichigan8188 dont tell me you use slabs instead of glow stone
Glow stone all day everyday, but mu choices in terracotta have been questioned. And the fact that I like to place everything as weirdly as possible (ie, mixing fence gates). But most telling of all is green, pink, blue, and red glazed terracotta + red, yellow, and purple hardened clay + dirt + combination of glowstone and pink stained glass + the fact I like to pack tnt in places it shouldn’t be injected from. But hey: if I can cram 60 stacks of tnt behind a payload every 6.3 seconds, with how weird my palette is and the most annoying reusable cobwebs ever: I can tell who’s been eying me. Unfortunately I no longer play due to having too much other stuff to do (hence the long passage of time for my reply). Besides: factions is dying, hack clients are better than ever, everything is pure PTW. I just don’t care anymore and now I get about 60 hours of my life (per week) back.
Technical community is the most fascinating one in the entire Minecraft community. Technical community, redstone and all these crazy stuff are the reasons that I still play the game after years.
Well done man!
This is just phenomenal! I can’t wait to see what is done with this concept. Amazingly concise explanation paired with limitless potential
Limitless is a good description, I think there is already a cannon which can dig 1000 blocks in one stap but brings minecraft to its limits
Love the idea of having to break into a base or something and using a curvy cannon for the hole
Same, imagine thinking "they can't get me behind this obsidian wall, they are not aligned right!"
And then you get disentegrated by that shot from the side
1.8 factions is all about that
@@kengored_alt I could get your hands on a schematic of a cannon doing just that, only works in 1.12 though and is ancient but good enough
these types of cannons were used often in OG minecraft factions... 255 hybrid oneshot with slabbust. that tunneling effect is used to clear slabs to allow players to stack sand up to 255 to raid bases
More recently there anti patch aswell, around 2019 it came out
Basically people would patch in a straight line because its easier to do while being hit and can be done faster, it would tunnel through the full line in 1 shot where normally its 1 shot per 2-3 blocks
Back in 2014 I used to play factions with a guy who made these sub-tick cannons! They made a valley that destroyed everything in front of it and effortlessly carved into bases. Nobody believed me that the cannons were real but this is it!
The technical community has discovered factions cannoning! I was very curious about the mechanics of it, I was used to the difference in timing from comparators to repeaters.
Interesting thing to note is that many old games that ran on fps capped hardware actually used frames as ticks. As far as I know, ticks were invented when people could run games at higher fps, to avoid the game running faster for some people.
What if you're chilling in MC one day and see your friend building a massive railgun pointing to your house
Super cool video! I’m loving these easy to follow concept videos, and this is some deep stuff in mc code. Reminds me of PEMDAS.
I just think the subject, the way it was introduced, and how it was shown in an example was executed amazingly!
I learned something new today.
really enjoyed that shot at mumbo. great content :D
your channel is a treasure trove of useful information; thanks for the informative videos.
great content
it’s rare to find minecraft youtubers who cover complex ideas effectively and in a manner that is entertaining and unique
bro took a whole video to show you can move tnt and explode it in the same gametick
I loved this video. You explain everything very well, speak clearly, and your video has a smooth storyline. I subscribed :)
I've been trying to do this type of thing long ago. Amazing work!
Hey Cubic, idk if u ever saw the /fill vid from comet 107’s channel, but that uses this exact same concept with sand. I worked on it a bit with him and after finishing that project we tried doing some stuff with angled tnt and found a group of people who are designing 3D cannons which take advantage of the order that entity movement it processed in to shoot around corners. This is definitely one of the coolest things in the game and I’m glad to c more people exploring it!
@m^3
You should search for Wargears.
Wargears are tnt battle ships.
And the entire wargrar community specializes in tnt/cannon physics.
Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
Nicely done
Actually just plain astounding
ORDER OF ENTITIES, 3 words that defined Minecraft cannoning
Absolutely, and order of directions
@@Azaqa true i always hated how much time i wasted cus my first trinagle cannon faced the wrong direction
@@AnteUjcic yea :) luckily most servers eventually added east west patch
I think we should do public tech again
I love your video format of Finished Product -> How you made it -> What you did sid to get there
"Your average gadget man..." *MumboJumbo in the background* 7:45
i would call this a 0 tick stab cannon
I would too
@@mystical6081 aah yes a man of culture
I think that's a high pressure cannon
@@B_MWG ig u could call it that but mystical and I are in a small community where this kind of damage / cannon is called a stab. We can even shoot them around corners in case of a sidestab for example.
POV: @@Lord_Loading explains the wargear scene to someone even though they are already in the wargear scene
Advanced cannoneers can sometimes use this feature to create cannons that can shoot round' corners. Note that this isn't always the case.
This man is way ahead of his time
Great video! Love the content
Oh yeah, these were called tunnelers in factions. Since primed TNT is 0.98 of a block, you can do some weird stuff like L shape tunnels if you allign it in a certain way. Cannons like those are called lefty or righty depending on direction it shot at.
Btw Overpressure is not the best way to go, there are more effition ways like primephases which prime an spesic amount of tnt every 1game tick one after another. With this principle you can save a lot of Propellants.
Very good video like it and its pretty good to see what you can do with tnt
There is much more advents stuff
reminds me of a series Zipkrowd made back in the day, like right when 1.5 came out they figured out that some components work differently with 1 tick pulses vs 2 tick pulses
As some pointed out already there are lots of people using this in "Wargears". I in person used it to make an Tunneling cannon that shoots 1100 blocks trough Endstone. Were using this technique since 2012 and are doing some crazy stuff with it. I made an Short on it if ur interested 😬
I can't believe you made Mumbo look bad by actually calling him gadget man. I know he's not as technical as some of the members of technical redstone community but damn growing up with him you just destroyed him in my eyes. Sadge
Technical minecraft is like a long branch on a tree whose base is rooted in the gadget man ideaology. Mumbo often states that he is missing "something" that distinguishes himself as a technical player and I was simply trying to fill in the gap. His goals and ambitions are simply different, not better or worse.
That was really cool!
4:46 Mumbo just chillin in the background
Why did you do Mumbo dirty like that lmao
2:36 Why did the last piston disappear?
Visual bug, I'm assuming due to 1.19s optifine
@@cubicmetre Oh alright that makes sense. Thanks for the response! :D
Came to watch cool explosive rail weapon, stayed to learn about quantum mechanics, felt good that I understood why the dropper activated but piston didn’t, was pleasantly reminded that there was a rail gun in Minecraft.
10/10 would recommend this journey
7:47 you see a wild mumbo out in the wild
Wait, but
If it updates in a snake pattern, aren't halve of the tnt lines pointing backwards?
This did come accross as rather mysterious, I don't understand completely however given my observations I am assuming each TnT processes it's motion first then they schedule the explosion rays to form. So the TnT that is behind explodes launching the projectile TnT away then the projectile TnT schedules the blocks to be broken.
So your theory is to remove every 2nd line of TNT ? I wonder if it could blast *further* ....
the explosion rays don't influence the motion of the tnt, they are only used to process the block damage
pls rename this, these mechanics have absolutly nothing to do with quantum physics. It might be better to say atomic mechanics because atomic referees to "infinitely small".
subtick or eventdelay is more common
I learned quantum mechanics before I knew anything about Minecrafts subtick mechanics and honestly, it felt exactly the same. The subtick mechanics are just such a fundamental but arbitrary ruleset for how the simulation plays out and when you discover things like why a piston moving a redstone block into a piston takes 3gt to extend the second piston but moving that same block into a repeater has a total delay of 4gt it can often have these moments of just "why?". I tried to interpret subtick mechanics as every component residing in a quantised time state, and these quantised states have special rules for how they can interact much like fundamental fields. For example, you could think of the repeater field being a thing in minecraft and this provides a good analogy to design tilesets in wireless redstone. Because you can imagine this field being processed everywhere in the game at the same time in the tile tick stage, but then there are repeater states that result in symetry breaking of the field giving you access to multiple combinations of subtick repeater chains which define the channels for wireless redstone.
thanks to this video i managed to make a quantum transistor in minecraft
I was expecting to be clickbaited SOOOO hard
I am extremely pleasantly surprised, this was a great level of detail explained very clearly with a truly awesome cannon to finish it off
excellent editing !
I think non-classical would be a better term as it avoids confusing existing concepts with minecraft. With classical minecraft being the typical understanding of redstone, only for those perceived laws to be violated in non-classical redstone, I think makes more sense.
would love to see more of this
me too
That is absolutely awesome
It would be absolutely epic to see this concept taken to the extreme
There are some cannons out there build by members of the German "WarGear" community. Just look up "WarGear" or "Stichkanone" on TH-cam.
Check out videos on factions, if you search factions raid edit or cannon edit youll find some nicely edited videos on this stuff. You could probably find some good technical videos by people like this
th-cam.com/video/plLrBKNWonE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/fAzaDDGoPAo/w-d-xo.html
@@Azaqa ooh thanks I'll definitely check that out
What I needed in my finals week!!
This is very cool!
Dude.... that is so simple but so effective!
This is actually quite cool
really gonna tae these mods because i love special things like this
7:45 Bro don't do that to my boy Mumbo! ToT
Like, I can't say that you're wrong, but damn
Ahh good to see old Saxton Hale manufacturing weapons again
7:42 😆did my man dirty
This is a very good video, wish I understood more of it, but it's still super cool, hope you make more videos about this stuff
if you want to learn more about such cannons, you can join the wargear community, it has about a hundred of mostly friendly members and you'll certainly find someone to explain it to you
@@ATOM-vv3xu I'd like to talk to the unfriendly members of a Minecraft tnt railgun community, wonder what those people are like.
@@savvazotov4196 they just had negative experiences with one of the servers and now hate that one, but you can just ignore them
@@savvazotov4196 it's pretty much like the java-bedrock debate. Both servers/games are great but some prefer one and others the other
@@ATOM-vv3xu but bedrock sucks...
im very impressed by how far it can shoot :o
made a 330 blocks long tunnel before i accidentally broke the railgun and didnt test further. it can certainly go beyond that
also thanks alot for explaining the update order
A lot of the main stuff in this video is the basis of a lot of the factions cannoning. Sadly most faction servers died but as someone who was very good at it there is insane stuff you can do with tnt, especially with game ticks.
this tech is so old, it's fun to see it being brought up again
It’s fun relooking old stuff wirh a new understanding, and I think this is entry level stuff
"gadget man" with mumbo in the background was amazing.
Watch a video behind a faction cannon and you will understand why those tnt floated to the side. 1.8 used to be y-float, E/W float, N/S float, but 1.20.1 is y-float, highest velocity float, idk which version it got changed but at some update they changed it to be like this
Way to make me feel out of the loop
My mind is blown.. Just like that mountain. HOLY!! this is genius
i had to check the date this was posted out of fear.
scicraft are gonna have a blast with this.
wiring 2 dispensers with different redstone components (comparators and repeaters) also makes this effect as in minecraft's ooe (order of entities) repeaters are calculated first, which makes something similar. people have been using this technique to make cannons in the past (tunnelers, nukes, aps etc), from what i've tested it still works in the new versions of minecraft, you just need to wire the power with repeaters, and the shot with comparators, every dispenser in the power is gonna have priority over the shot, then its gonna calculate its velocity and after that the shot's explosion. and about the 11:07 part, lining 2 tnt entities diagonally and placing one above the other on a non-full block (such as stairs, chains, walls, trapdoors, chests and others) altough their uses may vary, and some may be able to shoot farther than others, the way the position of the tnt is calculated depends on its position to the explosion, if placed diagonally, it's first gonna calculate the y axis, until it hits a block, then after either the x or z value after hitting a block (depends on the orientation) and then its gonna shoot into the wall, forming kind of a triangle hypotenuse or something like that (this is used in almost all modern factions cannons) this applies to any falling entitiy (anvils, sand, concrete, gravel, i haven't tested yet but maybe scafolding works)
This is what we do on minecraft factions and there is just so much possible… tunneling sideways, downwards, going through watered walls and stacking sand etc
some clientmods to visualise block events :
block-event-separator
pistorder
and for redstone tile events :
redstone-multimeter
edit : these dash-separated ids are the modrinth page urls of the mods mentioned
loving it
This is a really cool concept that I believe was originally used for minecraft factions. We called them "Tunnelers" because of their unique property of exploding right after one another. Using what we in the factions cannoner community call "fraction ticks" you are actually able to make a really simple version of this, al you need is 4 repeaters one after the other, into some dispensers, and more dispensers that actually fire the projectile. In terms of it bending, that has to do with how the tnt is aligned, when it is dispensed, it dispenses on the opposite side of the block from the dispenser, however with a piston, you can align it however you want, and if you have the gameticks in the right order, you can make something that will just blow out an entire sheet in a single shot. Overall this is a really cool video, and I love that this is something being investigated outside of the factions community
Nice explanation
I would like to introduce you to "Factions". there are some people who play that game-mode and find the most nutty things with TNT.
Stuff like angle cannons, Wall nukes that destroy entire lines of walls, slab busting and the list goes on.
this rail-gun tech has been used before in factions for bases with Large claims or that need precise targeting.
There is also a cannon that has 2 rounds of propellant that basically allows you to send tnt through 1 block wide gaps with a second round of propellant slightly offset to launch the round to the target bypassing some walls if you do it from a corner.
The 1 block hole thing wasnt to bypass gaps or anything, the idea was you could put your cannon in a defensible box and shoot at the enemy without them being able to stop you (unless they build their own cannon). Using the idea of "triangling" (basically tnt follows an order in rendering which you can abuse, it calculates Y velocity first and then E/W then N/S) you can give your cannon an adjustable range to shoot at from bedrock to sky limit and a very sizable X/Z range (could be thousands of blocks with enough tnt).
This is a great concept of a tunnel style cannon. Often played on factions as others have mentioned. Tunnelers, as well as stackers, have existed since the Leinarcher days. We are speaking of at minimum a decade of cannons here.
If you're looking to learn about cannons, factions (where you typically use a cannon), and their many many many uses, I highly recommend 3 youtubes.
F1NN5TER
Dexter113
Dragonairbender
Listed from least complex, to most complex of cannons.
Each approach cannons very differently, and each have probably have 10 years + of cannon knowledge just waiting to be absorbed.
There are many many many more people that have tutorials on cannons, and their many uses and builds. However, these 3 have taken the most time out of their lives to make it easier for others imo.
The types of Cannons you'll eventually search for.
Tunneller
Stacker/Hybrid
Reverse
Nuker
Fusion
Pseudo Nuke
Efficiency Nuke
Each one playing on the multiple possible tick rate combinations within the cannon and its many parts.
bridging the apparent gap between game and game development is my fav part of technical minecraft
this feels like a Black Mirror episode. well done.
If you want to see some crazy tech you should have seen what the factions cannon building community came up with back in the day. They truly brought tnt to its limits. The left shooting tnt you had brings back memories of the cool direction changing cannons people made
yeahhhh lefty cannons & wall removers + alien reverse cannons
That’s really cool. More
Search “minecraft factions cannon design”, there’s tons of designs that shoot sideways, 10-20+ chunks away, can break through water, and can shoot overhead and then hammer down. The AC130 design is one that was pretty popular a while back. These insane cannons basically killed the game mode since it became impossible to defend your base.
I am shooketh. My brain has expanded. I just...holy cow, this is massive to me...
7:46 🥶 (mumbo creepily staring deep in ur soule)
Truly, what a time to be alive
This is veery interesting. So many possibilitys. Now just to find out if this still works with the fabric "Alternate Current" mod :D
Great video
thought it was clickbait, was surprised! keep it up!
I'm part of the wargear community and we once had ilmango visit our server ^^ fair to say he was flabbergasted
"TNT", "railgun","minecraft", "quantum mechanics"
never thought i would see/hear those words in the same sentence and they would make sense.
Imagine making a machine that fires a small hole into a mountain but digs out a whole bunker underneath, or even randomly generates a maze! Great video!
the idea that you could just hit a button and an underground base with an access hole in the side of a mountain randomly appears lmao