Of course he is. Sutherland is basically inaudible outside of her high notes. If only Macneil was singing when Callas was in her prime... I could ONLY imagine those two titans really going to work!
I saw Cornell Macneil and Gianna D'Angelo in 'Rigoletto' in 1967 in San Antonio TX when I was 22 and had no idea who he was! It was the first professionally staged opera I had seen. He was 45 then.
Mon dieu !!! Quelle merveille ! Pourquoi et comment avons nous perdu cette école de chant ? Je suis loin d'être un grand fan de Sutherland mais je dois lui accorder un sans faute vocal musical et d'interprétation.. quant à lui ..je ne trouverai jamais les mots pour expliquer la perfection de son chant.
@vdarte 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷 She always said 10 was her Limit. But on this night she had 1 too many. How dry she was INDEED!!! GO JOANIE GO JOANIE 🔥💃💃💃 WORK IT WORK IT GIRL ⚽🎵🎶🎻
Exelente version.x dos.msestros. del.bel.canto.yo cante con ellos en el colom 1964 perfecta linea vocal ya fellecieron ambos dejandonos este arte q escuchamos y vemos.
MacNeil sounds incredible. A massive, sonorous voice but with clear diction. I actually rank him on par with the likes of Tita Ruffo, Giuseppe Danise and Mattia Battistini, as the greatest baritones of the 20th century.
god, the days when it was voice, voice, voice and more voice at the opera! I find this divine---like a 19th C world of opera, the sets, the grand diva playing a girl, love it. (Baritone lovers note: I have a playlist you might like, "Donizetti baritone arias" here on YT.) Cheers!
@@trrill I have actually included certain Verdi pieces on the list to show how Verdi grew explicitly and consciously out of Donizetti, whom V admired enormously. These duets really are the heart of 19th C Italian opera---as is this duet.
As far as I am concerned, this scene is Verdi at his best, and both of these wonderful artists are more than capable of fulfilling the emotional and technical demands of this amazing music.
decir que no era bella es una herejia...................era una mujer muy bella.......................pero eso es lo de menos...............lo importante ...............es la grandeza de su voz....................la grandeza de su persona.......y ser artistico y humano............pero.........tambien fue una mujer bella........................y sigue siendolo.........................no esta tan claro......lo de su estatura..................................no esta tan claro............lo de su diccion.....no esta tan claro lo de su belleza...................porque era un angel...............cantando como la diosa mas grandiosa...........................y si hay que buscar defectos.................se pueden encontrar en todos los demas.......y en mayor cantidad.............................asi que no hace falta decir tonterias......................la voz es la voz................un estado animico artistico......sin precedentes de una belleza dificil si no imposible de igualar.............y es la historia del canto......de la gran joan sutherland....................la voz mas impresionante de toda la historia de la musica del ser humano.......................
There are some idiotic comments about Sutherland not being heard except in high notes. Ridiculous. I was in the audience (first balcony) and every note, high or low, could be heard clearly. Both artists had very big voices. They were both marvelous not only in this scene, but elsewhere.
Joan Sutherland’s huge voice didn’t record well on most occasions. To hear her in the prime years up to the early 1970’s was a revelation No one today can come even near.
MacNeil was incredibly well trained. He never sounded Anglo or overly covered. Sutherland is a Celtic titan really a Germanic like voice. Such tones that play Violetta can soar but they miss everything else that matters in this very Italianate role. She is just not the right voice for this part. It requires text and her ludicrous diction is just glaring. Others roles can just about be enjoyed with less diction, not this role. It’s the same with Tosca Mimi Suor Angelica Aida Amelia Nedda they all live on the diction. She sounds very weird.
Some good sounds here, but this is not the heartrending duet that Verdi intended. So little emotional momentum and it sounds as if the conductor has gone to sleep on the podium
Completely? I actually understand most of what Sutherland sings here just fine, not great diction, but more than adequate for the most part, and MacNeil's diction is actually very clear, with excellent articulation here. Do you people even hear attentively before coming here to write the same old criticisms? For God's sake...
@@ygorcoelhos Yes, here it's not as bad as her worst, but still not great. Which is why I said it was always a problem, not 'yes, it's horrendous here'. Besides, diction isn't the biggest issue here; next to his squillo, she is barely noticeable, as she always is every time in such a situation, regardless of high notes.
Cornell Macneil is the real star here...
Indeed he's the reason I uploaded this video :)
Of course he is. Sutherland is basically inaudible outside of her high notes. If only Macneil was singing when Callas was in her prime... I could ONLY imagine those two titans really going to work!
Beg to differ with you. They are both the stars here. Find a better sounding Violetta anywhere
@@larrywoods6318 lool
@@trrill Yes, Big Mac was a super 🌟. But he didn't go far..??? Why why why. Arnold Bourbon Amaral
BIG MAC so fantastic here! Love this
Two enormous, beautiful voices!
Joan is simply amazing here.
Huge Macneil fan for most of his roles. Lucky enough to see him countless times.
I saw Cornell Macneil and Gianna D'Angelo in 'Rigoletto' in 1967 in San Antonio TX when I was 22 and had no idea who he was! It was the first professionally staged opera I had seen. He was 45 then.
Can you imagine listening to them live? Such big beautiful voices.
I was lucky enough to hear Joan sing it at the Met. There was nothing better!
Mon dieu !!! Quelle merveille ! Pourquoi et comment avons nous perdu cette école de chant ? Je suis loin d'être un grand fan de Sutherland mais je dois lui accorder un sans faute vocal musical et d'interprétation.. quant à lui ..je ne trouverai jamais les mots pour expliquer la perfection de son chant.
A wonderful combination.
The magnificent Cornell MacNeil.
Due grandi interpreti della lirica.
Sutherland is a gem as always, but MacNeil is Damn good here.
Din alta epoca dar memuritori
Cornel...este prefferatul meu.❤❤
MARAVILLOSO DUO
So fantastic! Thankful for sharing the music. 非常謝謝您的分享！
@vdarte 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷 She always said 10 was her Limit. But on this night she had 1 too many. How dry she was INDEED!!! GO JOANIE GO JOANIE 🔥💃💃💃 WORK IT WORK IT GIRL ⚽🎵🎶🎻
Ach, ist das schön!
Exelente version.x dos.msestros. del.bel.canto.yo cante con ellos en el colom 1964 perfecta linea vocal ya fellecieron ambos dejandonos este arte q escuchamos y vemos.
❤Unicos e Inolvidables.!!!❤❤
UN MAGNIFICO DUO
MacNeil sounds incredible. A massive, sonorous voice but with clear diction. I actually rank him on par with the likes of Tita Ruffo, Giuseppe Danise and Mattia Battistini, as the greatest baritones of the 20th century.
10:15 I love how she sings those lines, so beautiful. Cornell is wonderful too
Masterpiece ❤️
Wow fantastic
I didn't even know this video existed! Thanks for the upload!
The incomparable Joan Sutherland.
god, the days when it was voice, voice, voice and more voice at the opera! I find this divine---like a 19th C world of opera, the sets, the grand diva playing a girl, love it. (Baritone lovers note: I have a playlist you might like, "Donizetti baritone arias" here on YT.) Cheers!
This definitely belongs on that playlist-preferably at the top!
th-cam.com/video/WVC8yDfBB-I/w-d-xo.html
@@trrill I have actually included certain Verdi pieces on the list to show how Verdi grew explicitly and consciously out of Donizetti, whom V admired enormously. These duets really are the heart of 19th C Italian opera---as is this duet.
No, I mean specifically this aria---> th-cam.com/video/WVC8yDfBB-I/w-d-xo.html
@@trrill Ah! I know that version; there're other arias w Battistini on the list, but i only had so much room w that much rep to cover.
Belíssimas vozes!
As far as I am concerned, this scene is Verdi at his best, and both of these wonderful artists are more than capable of fulfilling the emotional and technical demands of this amazing music.
Big Mac is great!
decir que no era bella es una herejia...................era una mujer muy bella.......................pero eso es lo de menos...............lo importante ...............es la grandeza de su voz....................la grandeza de su persona.......y ser artistico y humano............pero.........tambien fue una mujer bella........................y sigue siendolo.........................no esta tan claro......lo de su estatura..................................no esta tan claro............lo de su diccion.....no esta tan claro lo de su belleza...................porque era un angel...............cantando como la diosa mas grandiosa...........................y si hay que buscar defectos.................se pueden encontrar en todos los demas.......y en mayor cantidad.............................asi que no hace falta decir tonterias......................la voz es la voz................un estado animico artistico......sin precedentes de una belleza dificil si no imposible de igualar.............y es la historia del canto......de la gran joan sutherland....................la voz mas impresionante de toda la historia de la musica del ser humano.......................
БигМак прекрасен!
❤
Нравятся.
There are some idiotic comments about Sutherland not being heard except in high notes. Ridiculous. I was in the audience (first balcony) and every note, high or low, could be heard clearly. Both artists had very big voices. They were both marvelous not only in this scene, but elsewhere.
Agree. At this time her voice was large. Like many singers as she aged it did diminish but it was always audible.
Joan Sutherland’s huge voice didn’t record well on most occasions. To hear her in the prime years up to the early 1970’s was a revelation No one today can come even near.
Truly magnificent singing by two of the all-time greats, but somewhat undercut by incredibly flaccid, non-dramatic conducting...
agreed
This is a lovely pearl, of course. But I think that the conductor could have had a more heartfelt approximation to the music.
Геніальні відійшли.. Залишились спогади.
Japan? On Met tour?
Yes, 1975.
How does one go about getting the entire opera? Is this the MET ‘75 tour? I thought Robert Merrill was her Germont ( as on her first Decca recording.)
Japan tour, 1975
Прекрасно
Фёдор Иванович Шаляпин
и Мансеррат Кабаллье
Опера Верди Травиата
Что?
she was not very beautiful but she had a beautiful voice
HAD was right
MacNeil was incredibly well trained. He never sounded Anglo or overly covered. Sutherland is a Celtic titan really a Germanic like voice. Such tones that play Violetta can soar but they miss everything else that matters in this very Italianate role. She is just not the right voice for this part. It requires text and her ludicrous diction is just glaring. Others roles can just about be enjoyed with less diction, not this role. It’s the same with Tosca Mimi Suor Angelica Aida Amelia Nedda they all live on the diction. She sounds very weird.
Some good sounds here, but this is not the heartrending duet that Verdi intended. So little emotional momentum and it sounds as if the conductor has gone to sleep on the podium
Good diction seems important in this duet. Is it missing completely?
Leonora de la Gardie I think MacNeil's is pretty good.
Leonora de la Gardie no
Diction was always a problem with her.
Completely? I actually understand most of what Sutherland sings here just fine, not great diction, but more than adequate for the most part, and MacNeil's diction is actually very clear, with excellent articulation here. Do you people even hear attentively before coming here to write the same old criticisms? For God's sake...
@@ygorcoelhos Yes, here it's not as bad as her worst, but still not great. Which is why I said it was always a problem, not 'yes, it's horrendous here'. Besides, diction isn't the biggest issue here; next to his squillo, she is barely noticeable, as she always is every time in such a situation, regardless of high notes.