Sorry for the error: PS5 does have SMT, currently asking around for what the conditions are when SMT might be toggled (if any). I think there may also be an instance of "2.6GHz" being misspoken instead of "3.6GHz" at one point. Correcting the show notes doc. Sorry for the mistake on that one. Show notes and source document: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3564-hw-news-motherboard-gpu-sales-fall-folding-at-home-grows Support GN: www.patreon.com/gamersnexus Watch our factory tour playlist: th-cam.com/video/BBMAeQjQL_k/w-d-xo.html
It already does - a group did a test and the word “demonetization” said in a video lead to demonetization. Google for it. Also a channel I watch often put up a video complaining about a previous video being demonetized for saying coronavirus was causing trouble for a particular industry. The demonetized video wasn’t one about coronavirus - it was just mentioned. The video complaining about the previous demonetization never mentioned coronavirus. But he did say “demonetization” several times. That video was demonetized too.
Great work! For anyone trying to help F@H, their servers are a little busy with the 10x increase in users. They're working hard on improving the situation but you might not get a whole lot of work units. If you can't get any work, restarting F@H can help (not the control panel, but icon tray, right mouse click, quit), but if you can't get any work you could get some CPU WUs from Rosetta. They're also doing Corona research, but through BOINC, you can find them here: boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ About power usage, just setting a lower power limit can greatly increase your performance per watt while saving heaps on your electricity bill. If you want to keep it simple, just download MSI Afterburner for your GPU and Ryzen Master or Intel XTU for your CPU and set a lower power limit if possible. This is also great because it reduces your enviromental impact while the F@H servers are undergoing upgrades anyways, and thus the current limitation isn't available compute power anyway. You can also select power saver in windows power plan to save a couple extra watts. All the power savings also result in lower thermals and thus reduces the impact this will have on your components (as long as you keep it under 80 degrees celcius you should be alright, but 70 would be nice). Their server problems also extend to their passkey requests, you might need to request one a couple times before you actually get one. If you can't quite afford to do this at a complete loss, EVGA gives away store credit for large parts of the world. You get 5-10 USD/EUR a month for the next 12 months. You won't make any money after power, but it might help offset some of your powerbill. For BOINC there is Gridcoin.us/ but that's pretty worthless atm. Also, don't do this if you just lost your job and will have difficulty paying bills in the first place, it does increase your power bill (200w*24h=4.8KWh, @0.12 USD/KWh this is 0.58 USD/day, but if in certain places the rates are double that and certain PCs might draw double that).
I've been folding with Rosetta@home for three days now on the LTT team (LinusTechTips_Team), both systems that're hooked up to the BOINC network have been slowly chugging along. One has a Ryzen 5 2600 and the other (the weaker of the two) has a Xeon X3430. Hoping to get an X3450 with a slightly higher clock speed and double the threads (2.4GHz > 2.66GHz & 4 threads > 8 threads). As for the temperatures, the Ryzen hits (at max for this load) 50 degrees Celsius. The Xeon used to hit the mid 70s, but after a major heatsink clean it now sits happily in the mid-high 40s. I've avoided using F@H because the Ryzen system's video card (blower-style GTX 670 4GB from EVGA) gets _ridiculously_ hot (about 80 degrees max I've seen with a quick F@H test) and the Xeon machine has a piddly ATI Radeon HD 3450.
I have set up a couple of old thinkpads to chug away in the corner doing this while I work from home on my gaming PC. The laptops aren't the fastest things in the world but what they are is nice and power efficient.
ya, rosetta@home is pretty exciting, too (team AMD Users repping!)... they've grown from 25-30M BOINC PPD to over 110M in the last 10-15 days or so i.imgur.com/kJwr4OO.png
also, remembered you can delete the CPU crunching out of the F@H options and save that all for rosetta@home! Configure > Slots tab > select CPU, click [ - Remove], [Save]
The best of GN vídeos is you don’t need to make your questions, as Steve already covers them for you: “Would Razer N95 masks be RGB? And what about Corsair?”
I remember back when folding came out, we talked of it 15 years ago on hardforums, and it was almost like when bitcoin mining first came out.. you could set this 1click install app up to use your gaming pc to help fight cancer
My dad still has the signed awards he got for hitting 100k points and 250k points back in '05. Now my 2080 cranks out 1.7 million per day and the top team is at 1.1 trillion.
@@MTBScotland No it isn't really: www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/r93i6/has_foldinghome_really_accomplished_anything/ It just takes long to do anything in science because it is a lot of work and funding is limited
If you have issues with Folding@Home, you can also try Rosetta@Home, they're also doing Covid 19 folding, and it seems that they aren't overburdened yet. But the work is all CPU
@@Nobody-vr5nl no, they condemn it because most people do not have good enough cooling solutions. LIQUID NITROGEN IS GOOD ENOUGH to make overclocking safe.
It's pretty cool seeing so many computer enthusiasts coming together to help combat human malware. The PCMR F@H team alone has over 10000 active users. *Faith in humanity restored.*
I mine CureCoin as a hobby (I've put way more money into it then I'll ever get out hence "hobby"). While C-19 is a worthwhile cause I'll still be donating to F@H long after. I'm in it to "solve" cancers.
This actually might end up being good for component prices. Manufacturers might have to cut back prices to help them rebound from this crisis. It could also go the other way, but I am hopeful.
I just loaded up F@H after being away since like 2012. I remember I could pull in about 50k a day folding with two 6850s and a 965BE. Currently I'm projected to bring in 908k a day. Holy hell.
@@Russ0107 Only a waste if you don't consider the potential massive benefit that could come from it. I run on 100% renewable power, so in regards to that the benefit is that I am helping to support the green power industry too. Lots of benefits to be had. I barely ever need to turn my heating on, so I'm using green electricity instead of fossil fuels. Seems like another advantage to me.
Do note that Rosetta seems to be sensitive to cache, if you don't give it enough cache per task (I think it is 4MB of cache per task), you will suffer performance penalties. On my 3600 for example, running 6 24-hour tasks at the same time nets over 1000 credits each after 24 hours. However, running 8 24-hour tasks at the same time reduces that to around 300.
I signed up for f@h and joined the gn team. My pc mostly sits unused and powered off. I might turn it on once a week for an hour. Probably less. I basically only use it to edit TH-cam videos that I put out every few months. I've been waiting on work units. 10 attempts and nothing yet. I'm running a r9 3950x and 5700xt so i feel like I have something to contribute.
@@paulgray1318 i find it funny, because internet is progressing so slowly it literally gets worse over time. At first, it was 75mbps/$25, and then it became 75mbps/$100 and now we have 75mbps/$120. Literally, 90% of america is under a "monopoly", which is why there is no progression. i mean capitalism is cool and all but the government needs to fix this shit. stuff like municipal and google fiber are needed, but comass for instance owns the cables here and won't share their cables (+can't lay down new cables), hence $120/month for internet that can't load 720p60fps streams, and can't stream (upload) @ even 720p30fps.
@Electroblade - ouch, I pay £22 a month for unlimited 4g(5g once I upgrade router) and get 50/50 Mbps currently, I'm sure if I got external aerials and upgraded to 5G I could well boost that, but works well enough for now and waiting for cheaper 5G kit and more so, the next generation that will from all I've read, be way better as changes to spec and also power usage. That with volume will also mean cheaper. I like to avoid bleeding edge, as I hate bleeding ;0. Still, America a bigger country than the UK and with that, be many spots in which mobiles won't even bother for the one man and there dog as the sole user, though staalite offerings will sort that and also offer up some competition.
Sadly the truth does hurt, and it's all because of corporate monopoly BS in many areas, and the FCC not holding them accountable to run lines to everyone's home that our internet is piss poor in a lot of places.
You should do a straight water cooled setup for the RIP build! It may not be super exciting or nab the highest "points per day" at peak, but I think the most important aspect is the sustained performance -- it should be able to keep crunching WUs and keep contributing at a stable rate over as long of a period as needed until a target site for treatment is found in this particularly nasty strain of human malware. The build just straight up can't contribute as much if it's reliant on exotic cooling that's temporary like LN2 or even high-maintenance like an ice bucket rig. Maybe something like a thick radiator with some high performance fans strapped directly over an AC vent would help it have some slightly-below-ambient cooling that would keep the OCs more aggressive than a regular ambient temp setup, but would still be capable of running for that sustained period.
Considering that F@H and Rosetta@Home have been around for a long time and both work along the same field, it would be really interesting if some in-depth topic would be made about how they differ. Why one is able to use both CPU and GPU and why the other hasn't been able to make past CPU. Both have been used to crosscheck the results they've made, so got to love the co-operation they have.
Was F@H active years ago before Boot/Maximumpc was merged with PCGamer. Our "team" won several Chimp Challenges. It was tons of fun but the space heater pc cases chuck full of 8800GT's, 9800GTX's, and GTX 260/280's was unbearable without a basement. I was honored by conversing with a wonderful group of enthusiasts who cared deeply (many with suffering family members) about the mysterious physiologic condition widely known cancer. RIP Gordon and Rose. My pa is just finished up his third round of chemo. He's battling s4 NH lymphoma. I have a basement now. :)
Found this and joined the team, though it does make those fans spin a lot. I'll consider it as a burn in test to check the cooling, then maybe look at some more advanced cooling rigs..
Great stuff as always GN! All of my systems have now been set up for folding for team Gamer'sNexus. I don't have any super crazy systems (not anymore...not ny today's standards) but nonetheless excited to help out!
@@MichaelPohoreski Even when there is redundancy, if the results don't match it has to be redone again till they match. That's a waste of the projects time and a lot of work relies on previous work to begin. That's not cool to interfere with just because you want to overclock. Sometimes you can't know if the final result is correct or not so you just have to trust it and iterate. I'm not sure which type of work F@A is, but judging by their explanation, it sounds like this is one of those things where they just keep repeating simulations and because of the dynamic/random nature of folding the results are always different. Then they can do a statistical spread of all the results and see what happens most for likely drug binding, and what misfolds could cause disease.
One thing to point out, F@H for Covid-19 is mostly GPU, I have not received any CPU unit to crunch yet. You can use BOINC with Rosetta@Home which is CPU only.
I love the idea of Folding@Home challenges. I've done two videos on Folding@Home on my TH-cam channel thus far with one of them focused on the virus. Let the games begin!😎
For a very far from GN standards version, this circulates on overclock.net: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#
On the first one, I needed to buy a computer and I wanted to buy the parts last weekend, but I took too much time doing research. I am too indecisive. I finally made a decision this weekend, and luckily no price gouging. In fact, I got some good deals. The problem is that I took too long and now Amazon is holding off on some (surprisingly not all) non-essential parts, so I got 2/3rd of my computer parts coming in a week, but the other 1/3rd I am given an estimated time of 1 month for delivery :( They did give me a $10 credit for complaining (I was nice), and I decided to wait because the only place that had it at all was Newegg on Ebay and I dont like Ebay much and I was going to lose $18 and now the extra $10 credit, meaning $28 if I went with Ebay. I can wait and I am looking to save money where I can. Hopefully the estimated date gets reduced as peoples demand for essential supplies relaxes before then.
It's 'funny' that some of the US reserve of N95 masks for emergencies was expired. You'd think they'd rotate them out so when an emergency came they would actually be good.
Make sure if youre overclocking to bench using FAH bench to test your stability as failed WUs can happen much more easily than a game freeze and failed WUs can remove your QRB
@@GamersNexus Well how Microsoft says the XSX will do it is it will be developer choice to if the console uses SMT or not, but apparently at the start of the release it will be SMT off only. So maybe Sony is doing the same thing.
I think panic buying of PC parts has been occurring in New Zealand because one of the bigger PC shops in NZ has limited orders to 30 per customer and limited items to being in their online cart for 30 minutes. Though that limit is high enough to be meaningless.
An extreme OCed F@H rig sounds fun, but right now those folks need accuracy more than they need speed. You'll do a lot more good with a F@H machine that's slowly churning out 100% accurate work units than one that spits them out like crazy, but corrupts them every so often.
Ps- I'll def get involved in the folding thing- great way to unite for the good of everyone!!(hopefully no parts I've ordered are defective!!!....fingers crossed..)
The folding at home sound to me a really good idea from a creator to use the Corona Virus crises and get a lot of compute power for mining, i am impressed how many people fell into the trap
Totally didn't take snips of your N95 masks to make a meme about you leaking the designs of Razer and Corsair's masks to help fight my anxiety, nope, not at all. Thanks for the laugh guys, I needed it!
I "panick bought" a new computer and lo and behold I got stuck home for two weeks straight after due to possibly having the Corona virus so it was a great purchase after all!
@@UKYusei Self built, I bought a Ryzen 3600, Radeon 5600XT, 16GB 3600Mhz RAM and a 1TB NVMe SSD. The worst part about the Corona virus is not having a sense of taste, for 4 days now.
You probably shouldn't be doing any crazy overclocks for Folding. Sending bunk work back isn't cool. If your results compared to a clone version of someone else's work doesn't match they have to do it again. Simply setting the power limit to max is still stable, an overclock could take 24 or more hours of testing that checks results like realbench to know if you cause errors.
Little hands on with either, but as I understand it, Folding@home leverages GPUs. if you want to use your CPU, use Boinc, which leverages CPU instead. As with all things UnRaid, SpaceInvaderOne has a good video on installing a docker container in your server to use either. Boinc seems to be the best option for my server to use, since it has 12 idle cores to melt, but only a PCI 640x480 VGA video card.
i remember overclocking being a concern when i was folding years ago but if i understand it correctly each work unit is sent out to several folding clients, thus all confirming each others result !
I would imagine LN2 is a critical supply in these times. It has a lot of industrial uses, and if memory serves it is also used in some medical machines like MRIs.
Waiting for work units has by far been the biggest issue holding my 5700 XT system back. I have no real idea what i could get if my PC "idled" all day considering it constantly is missing anything to do.
The servers are hammered right now, hard to allocate workloads and communicate to the server. LTT said they're gonna help F@H by having a server on their premises to handle some of the allocation and data transfer.
@GNSteve FAH points by username can be more than 1 machine, if you want to displant one person's score, in 24 hours, simply bring more machines with the same username online at the same time. For fun sure try to get the work unit done as fast as you can, but most finish in about an hour or less depending on the work unit and the cpu. Suggest trying out that $4000 64 core 128 thread AMD threadripper or a bunch of Nvidia compute cards to crank out as many work units as you can. Even still, the fah group has more doners than they have work they need done at this time, as evident by the lack of work units, and server strain. But they are working on expanding their server capacity and speed of the research work units.
I went to buy a 3900x the other day. I looked at the price at my local store the night before, $779. Next morning before I was about to leave I checked again, $850...
It does have 16 threads. Sony lists that on their website blog.us.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/
In my experience over the past weeks, I have noticed the prices augment significantly and behave erratically (Western Europe). I was planning and researching for my first build (that's how I found Gamers Nexus) so I was looking at these prices almost every day. Then human malware happened. I have continued to observe the prices and the most significant one I have seen has been the RTX 2060 specifically the MSI Gaming Z model. I remember it was under 380€ and then it changed to over 460€ with a 6€ difference from the 2060 SUPER Gaming X (I saw that this morning). Now I went back and checked before posting this comment and the 2060 SUPER Gaming X is now 515€ and the Gaming Z is 483€. I also saw the Ryzen 5 3600 augment from 177€ to 188€ and the B450 Tomahawk Max is around 150€ or out stock if cheaper whereas before it was around the 120€. I have been researching to see if I am the only one noticing this, but so far no one has confirmed if there is something actually happening or if it's just a coincidence. I've read that PC parts' prices are increasing independent of human malware, but this quick?! Needless to say, that build seems not to be happening anytime soon...
@@shadowguardian3612 and one would think it would be the same for you in terms of prices. I just checked and the Ryzen 5 3600 has noe dropped 7€. I am far from knowledgeable when it comes to price fluctuations, but I have never seen such quick and somewhat drastic changes. Not to mention the overpriced parts aside from the price fluctuations. I mean, come on, an RTX 2060 for almost 500€...
@@edd338 sometimes sellers on amazon create highier prices beacause they think that the prices will inflate or they just don't have the card or whatever. The last time something similar happend was the mining boom where a 1080Ti inflated from 700€ to 1500€.
Donating my R9 3900x, old haswell Xeon, GTX 1060, and GTX 1080ti to the GN F@H team. Amazingly the 3900x earns the same points per day as the GTX 1060! Altogether I'm hitting around 3 million points per day! I'll need the 3900x to do my own bioinformatics work again but 24hrs can't hurt.
Do you have any ideas on best motherboard and processor for both gaming and autocad? I have to do my school at home for the rest of the semester. Or somewhere to go and ask? Thank you.
Sorry for the error: PS5 does have SMT, currently asking around for what the conditions are when SMT might be toggled (if any). I think there may also be an instance of "2.6GHz" being misspoken instead of "3.6GHz" at one point. Correcting the show notes doc. Sorry for the mistake on that one. Show notes and source document: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3564-hw-news-motherboard-gpu-sales-fall-folding-at-home-grows
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Expected you to mention F@H recent growth, not disappointed! Team LTT is full throttle on it. Edit:
@Henrik Kowalski can you link some success stories regarding folding@home achievements in decease research? For personal motivation.
can we pre-order the corsair masks? also do we have to use their proprietary software and hardware for the RGB to work?
It sucks sony sold there vaio desktop computer line since I want an low cost ps4-5 Apu based water desktop!
The other guy in your team it seems is on drugs sorry to say am i wrong?
Oh man, the Corsair mask, I’m dead.
I hope it has RGB
Erenzilable The mask doesn’t, but the ventilator does
@@supergameplayer8617 😂
I can already see the marketing:
Cars can also spot you at night!
Set to red to show you are sick and keep people at a distance!
john K. Haha! I love the idea of the color to indicate health status!
Soon at TH-cam:
Speaking about demonetization triggers demonetization.
First rule of demonetization: you don't talk about demonization.
Im actually surprised it isnt like that already
don't give them ideas!
@var1328r/hmmmmmm
It already does - a group did a test and the word “demonetization” said in a video lead to demonetization. Google for it.
Also a channel I watch often put up a video complaining about a previous video being demonetized for saying coronavirus was causing trouble for a particular industry. The demonetized video wasn’t one about coronavirus - it was just mentioned.
The video complaining about the previous demonetization never mentioned coronavirus. But he did say “demonetization” several times. That video was demonetized too.
Great work! For anyone trying to help F@H, their servers are a little busy with the 10x increase in users. They're working hard on improving the situation but you might not get a whole lot of work units. If you can't get any work, restarting F@H can help (not the control panel, but icon tray, right mouse click, quit), but if you can't get any work you could get some CPU WUs from Rosetta. They're also doing Corona research, but through BOINC, you can find them here: boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
About power usage, just setting a lower power limit can greatly increase your performance per watt while saving heaps on your electricity bill. If you want to keep it simple, just download MSI Afterburner for your GPU and Ryzen Master or Intel XTU for your CPU and set a lower power limit if possible. This is also great because it reduces your enviromental impact while the F@H servers are undergoing upgrades anyways, and thus the current limitation isn't available compute power anyway. You can also select power saver in windows power plan to save a couple extra watts. All the power savings also result in lower thermals and thus reduces the impact this will have on your components (as long as you keep it under 80 degrees celcius you should be alright, but 70 would be nice).
Their server problems also extend to their passkey requests, you might need to request one a couple times before you actually get one.
If you can't quite afford to do this at a complete loss, EVGA gives away store credit for large parts of the world. You get 5-10 USD/EUR a month for the next 12 months. You won't make any money after power, but it might help offset some of your powerbill. For BOINC there is Gridcoin.us/ but that's pretty worthless atm.
Also, don't do this if you just lost your job and will have difficulty paying bills in the first place, it does increase your power bill (200w*24h=4.8KWh, @0.12 USD/KWh this is 0.58 USD/day, but if in certain places the rates are double that and certain PCs might draw double that).
I've been folding with Rosetta@home for three days now on the LTT team (LinusTechTips_Team), both systems that're hooked up to the BOINC network have been slowly chugging along. One has a Ryzen 5 2600 and the other (the weaker of the two) has a Xeon X3430. Hoping to get an X3450 with a slightly higher clock speed and double the threads (2.4GHz > 2.66GHz & 4 threads > 8 threads).
As for the temperatures, the Ryzen hits (at max for this load) 50 degrees Celsius. The Xeon used to hit the mid 70s, but after a major heatsink clean it now sits happily in the mid-high 40s.
I've avoided using F@H because the Ryzen system's video card (blower-style GTX 670 4GB from EVGA) gets _ridiculously_ hot (about 80 degrees max I've seen with a quick F@H test) and the Xeon machine has a piddly ATI Radeon HD 3450.
I have set up a couple of old thinkpads to chug away in the corner doing this while I work from home on my gaming PC. The laptops aren't the fastest things in the world but what they are is nice and power efficient.
you forgot Foldingcoin and Curecoin
ya, rosetta@home is pretty exciting, too (team AMD Users repping!)... they've grown from 25-30M BOINC PPD to over 110M in the last 10-15 days or so i.imgur.com/kJwr4OO.png
also, remembered you can delete the CPU crunching out of the F@H options and save that all for rosetta@home! Configure > Slots tab > select CPU, click [ - Remove], [Save]
The best of GN vídeos is you don’t need to make your questions, as Steve already covers them for you: “Would Razer N95 masks be RGB? And what about Corsair?”
I remember back when folding came out, we talked of it 15 years ago on hardforums, and it was almost like when bitcoin mining first came out.. you could set this 1click install app up to use your gaming pc to help fight cancer
My dad still has the signed awards he got for hitting 100k points and 250k points back in '05. Now my 2080 cranks out 1.7 million per day and the top team is at 1.1 trillion.
@@Jootunn Nice! I think the team I folded for was [h]ardfolding. shout out to flecom and his LAN parties
@@dertythegrower We've been folding for SilentPCReview, number 76 on the world leaderboards currently. A very old team.
I remember when it started 19 years ago. ran it for a bit then stopped. Its a waste of time
@@MTBScotland No it isn't really: www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/r93i6/has_foldinghome_really_accomplished_anything/
It just takes long to do anything in science because it is a lot of work and funding is limited
TH-cam: we wont demonetize covid/corona as heavily
also TH-cam: most of the work will be done by algorythms, so expect more demonetization.
If you have issues with Folding@Home, you can also try Rosetta@Home, they're also doing Covid 19 folding, and it seems that they aren't overburdened yet. But the work is all CPU
F@H condemns overclocking.
Someone please let gn know. Just google it.
@@Nobody-vr5nl no, they condemn it because most people do not have good enough cooling solutions. LIQUID NITROGEN IS GOOD ENOUGH to make overclocking safe.
They should combine
@@Nobody-vr5nl oh well, they can get over it
@@chickencoopowner Memory overclocking is really bad for it as it can result in bad data.
That *human malware* outtake was phenomenal (genuine or not), gave me a hearty chuckle.
Very genuine!
It's pretty cool seeing so many computer enthusiasts coming together to help combat human malware. The PCMR F@H team alone has over 10000 active users.
*Faith in humanity restored.*
I mine CureCoin as a hobby (I've put way more money into it then I'll ever get out hence "hobby").
While C-19 is a worthwhile cause I'll still be donating to F@H long after. I'm in it to "solve" cancers.
This actually might end up being good for component prices. Manufacturers might have to cut back prices to help them rebound from this crisis. It could also go the other way, but I am hopeful.
Expect higher prices to compensate for the loss.
The Corsair mask design cracked me up.
such a good joke
I just loaded up F@H after being away since like 2012. I remember I could pull in about 50k a day folding with two 6850s and a 965BE. Currently I'm projected to bring in 908k a day. Holy hell.
As the LTT Folding Team Leader, I say, COME AT ME BRO!
Trying to do my part for the Ltt team! If only I could get work units....
What hardware are you running?
@@ToTheGAMES 5960X, ryzen 1700, GTX 980, GTX 1080 x2, RTX 2060 and RTX 2070.
@@BenQuigley That's a lot of power to waste!
@@Russ0107 Only a waste if you don't consider the potential massive benefit that could come from it. I run on 100% renewable power, so in regards to that the benefit is that I am helping to support the green power industry too. Lots of benefits to be had. I barely ever need to turn my heating on, so I'm using green electricity instead of fossil fuels. Seems like another advantage to me.
*LTT starts folding@home
Linus: Why do I hear boss music?
Do a Rosetta@home team also, plenty of work units, CPU only though but can be run simultaneously with FAH.
That makes it great, Rosetta taking your CPU while Folding uses your GPU: max efficiency!
yeah I signed up to F@H but there were no work units, so I joined BOINC
Do note that Rosetta seems to be sensitive to cache, if you don't give it enough cache per task (I think it is 4MB of cache per task), you will suffer performance penalties.
On my 3600 for example, running 6 24-hour tasks at the same time nets over 1000 credits each after 24 hours. However, running 8 24-hour tasks at the same time reduces that to around 300.
I signed up for f@h and joined the gn team. My pc mostly sits unused and powered off. I might turn it on once a week for an hour. Probably less. I basically only use it to edit TH-cam videos that I put out every few months.
I've been waiting on work units. 10 attempts and nothing yet. I'm running a r9 3950x and 5700xt so i feel like I have something to contribute.
13 attempts.. auto-waiting over 20 minutes between attempts? I guess I won't be of use after all.
I see turbo I subscribe.
The time points on the left side are really cool. makes this video much easier to digest if you want to hear something specific. Thank you.
You've got me as a backer for folding, team 234771, started today. Thanks for all your hard work brother...
RIPLTT indeed; Switching my team to GN!
Same here, I switched from PCMR. But right now my 1080Ti is just waiting for work...
@@GothaRsk I'm installing the cuda drivers. My 3950x is ripping through assignments when it gets them though
yep, LTT team is about to shrink. I'm on my way over
@@sapphie132 what board you using and GPU?
@@UKYusei asrock x470 taichi ultimate, and 1080ti (evga sc2)
"For some countries with less developed internet..like a lot of America for example" Oooooh that hurt
The only people it will hurt, won't know until next week due to their bandwidth :).
@@paulgray1318 i find it funny, because internet is progressing so slowly it literally gets worse over time.
At first, it was 75mbps/$25, and then it became 75mbps/$100 and now we have 75mbps/$120.
Literally, 90% of america is under a "monopoly", which is why there is no progression.
i mean capitalism is cool and all but the government needs to fix this shit.
stuff like municipal and google fiber are needed, but comass for instance owns the cables here and won't share their cables (+can't lay down new cables), hence $120/month for internet that can't load 720p60fps streams, and can't stream (upload) @ even 720p30fps.
@Electroblade - ouch, I pay £22 a month for unlimited 4g(5g once I upgrade router) and get 50/50 Mbps currently, I'm sure if I got external aerials and upgraded to 5G I could well boost that, but works well enough for now and waiting for cheaper 5G kit and more so, the next generation that will from all I've read, be way better as changes to spec and also power usage. That with volume will also mean cheaper. I like to avoid bleeding edge, as I hate bleeding ;0.
Still, America a bigger country than the UK and with that, be many spots in which mobiles won't even bother for the one man and there dog as the sole user, though staalite offerings will sort that and also offer up some competition.
Sadly the truth does hurt, and it's all because of corporate monopoly BS in many areas, and the FCC not holding them accountable to run lines to everyone's home that our internet is piss poor in a lot of places.
@@CommodoreFan64 remember when there was supposed to be fiber laid to every home in the country by govt.?
@6:00 this supercomputer is running Winamp v2.95, infinitely repeating Los Lobos & the Gypsy Kings - La Bamba
You should do a straight water cooled setup for the RIP build! It may not be super exciting or nab the highest "points per day" at peak, but I think the most important aspect is the sustained performance -- it should be able to keep crunching WUs and keep contributing at a stable rate over as long of a period as needed until a target site for treatment is found in this particularly nasty strain of human malware. The build just straight up can't contribute as much if it's reliant on exotic cooling that's temporary like LN2 or even high-maintenance like an ice bucket rig. Maybe something like a thick radiator with some high performance fans strapped directly over an AC vent would help it have some slightly-below-ambient cooling that would keep the OCs more aggressive than a regular ambient temp setup, but would still be capable of running for that sustained period.
19:45 I WAS TRYING TO EAT RAMEN, DAMMIT!
You can't do that to us without warning. 😂
I tried folding yesterday, their servers are overloaded at the moment. Honestly a great thing
Considering that F@H and Rosetta@Home have been around for a long time and both work along the same field, it would be really interesting if some in-depth topic would be made about how they differ. Why one is able to use both CPU and GPU and why the other hasn't been able to make past CPU. Both have been used to crosscheck the results they've made, so got to love the co-operation they have.
Was F@H active years ago before Boot/Maximumpc was merged with PCGamer. Our "team" won several Chimp Challenges. It was tons of fun but the space heater pc cases chuck full of 8800GT's, 9800GTX's, and GTX 260/280's was unbearable without a basement.
I was honored by conversing with a wonderful group of enthusiasts who cared deeply (many with suffering family members) about the mysterious physiologic condition widely known cancer. RIP Gordon and Rose.
My pa is just finished up his third round of chemo. He's battling s4 NH lymphoma. I have a basement now. :)
Found this and joined the team, though it does make those fans spin a lot.
I'll consider it as a burn in test to check the cooling, then maybe look at some more advanced cooling rigs..
I don't feel like I've laughed in a very long time atm. Its been such a long week. Thanks for the corsair mask, I needed that
Thanks for the updates!
Glad to see you guys made it home, was a bit worried you'd be stuck. Stay safe!
Great stuff as always GN! All of my systems have now been set up for folding for team Gamer'sNexus. I don't have any super crazy systems (not anymore...not ny today's standards) but nonetheless excited to help out!
My understanding is that it's bad to run F@H on overclocked hardware, because it's really important that the computation have no errors.
Yep. I really don't like the idea of LN2 overclocking for scientific work. It may be stable, but you can still be making errors.
@@Jaker788 It is a shitty design IF work isn't being double and triple checked by other clients.
@@MichaelPohoreski Even when there is redundancy, if the results don't match it has to be redone again till they match. That's a waste of the projects time and a lot of work relies on previous work to begin. That's not cool to interfere with just because you want to overclock.
Sometimes you can't know if the final result is correct or not so you just have to trust it and iterate. I'm not sure which type of work F@A is, but judging by their explanation, it sounds like this is one of those things where they just keep repeating simulations and because of the dynamic/random nature of folding the results are always different. Then they can do a statistical spread of all the results and see what happens most for likely drug binding, and what misfolds could cause disease.
Thanks for the news dude. Keep up the good work. Cracked me up with the unicorn vomit M95s.
One thing to point out, F@H for Covid-19 is mostly GPU, I have not received any CPU unit to crunch yet.
You can use BOINC with Rosetta@Home which is CPU only.
Blooper central with the COVID... love it! Hope you didn't get demonetized.
I love the idea of Folding@Home challenges. I've done two videos on Folding@Home on my TH-cam channel thus far with one of them focused on the virus. Let the games begin!😎
I had originally planned to upgrade my computer at the end of April, but I'm glad I decided to order the parts in the beginning of March.
I can't wait to see the quality control on the Razer mask
Can we get Folding@Home benchmarks?
For a very far from GN standards version, this circulates on overclock.net: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html#
On the first one, I needed to buy a computer and I wanted to buy the parts last weekend, but I took too much time doing research. I am too indecisive.
I finally made a decision this weekend, and luckily no price gouging. In fact, I got some good deals.
The problem is that I took too long and now Amazon is holding off on some (surprisingly not all) non-essential parts, so I got 2/3rd of my computer parts coming in a week, but the other 1/3rd I am given an estimated time of 1 month for delivery :(
They did give me a $10 credit for complaining (I was nice), and I decided to wait because the only place that had it at all was Newegg on Ebay and I dont like Ebay much and I was going to lose $18 and now the extra $10 credit, meaning $28 if I went with Ebay. I can wait and I am looking to save money where I can.
Hopefully the estimated date gets reduced as peoples demand for essential supplies relaxes before then.
It's 'funny' that some of the US reserve of N95 masks for emergencies was expired. You'd think they'd rotate them out so when an emergency came they would actually be good.
What do you think kind of food is handed out in food shelters? Expired food
Make sure if youre overclocking to bench using FAH bench to test your stability as failed WUs can happen much more easily than a game freeze and failed WUs can remove your QRB
I got 2 rigs running 247 that can do 1 million points per day each but have only been doing 300k combined due to the lack of WU's.
Always the best content, thanks again Steve
11:41 - I thought the PS5 *would* have SMT? Anyone care to clarify?
Sony says it does. So, I'd trust that. blog.us.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/
It has it, I guess, currently looking into what the circumstances are where it might be turned off. Sorry for the error.
@@GamersNexus Well how Microsoft says the XSX will do it is it will be developer choice to if the console uses SMT or not, but apparently at the start of the release it will be SMT off only. So maybe Sony is doing the same thing.
I think panic buying of PC parts has been occurring in New Zealand because one of the bigger PC shops in NZ has limited orders to 30 per customer and limited items to being in their online cart for 30 minutes. Though that limit is high enough to be meaningless.
An extreme OCed F@H rig sounds fun, but right now those folks need accuracy more than they need speed. You'll do a lot more good with a F@H machine that's slowly churning out 100% accurate work units than one that spits them out like crazy, but corrupts them every so often.
Steve you've been a huge influence on my channel!! Keep up the great work man!!
I think your next industry interview should be with Lyle.
Ps- I'll def get involved in the folding thing- great way to unite for the good of everyone!!(hopefully no parts I've ordered are defective!!!....fingers crossed..)
The folding at home sound to me a really good idea from a creator to use the Corona Virus crises and get a lot of compute power for mining, i am impressed how many people fell into the trap
The Corsair N95 mask straight up made me cackle out loud. Thanks Steve. We all need a good laugh these days.
GN do folding@home.
Curecoin: Ah, a new opponent i see.
That Corsair mask increase the FOS by 100%
just when i was about to install f@h and join LTT lmao
Please post a link to GN F@H so we can join and push GN's fair play and genuine effort to good use
Totally didn't take snips of your N95 masks to make a meme about you leaking the designs of Razer and Corsair's masks to help fight my anxiety, nope, not at all. Thanks for the laugh guys, I needed it!
Joining the Folding team!
can we pre-order the corsair masks? also do we have to use their proprietary software and hardware for the RGB to work?
I "panick bought" a new computer and lo and behold I got stuck home for two weeks straight after due to possibly having the Corona virus so it was a great purchase after all!
What pc u get
@@UKYusei Self built, I bought a Ryzen 3600, Radeon 5600XT, 16GB 3600Mhz RAM and a 1TB NVMe SSD. The worst part about the Corona virus is not having a sense of taste, for 4 days now.
the folding thing exploded so hard, now my machines with only gpu active have been idling for 2 days w/o getting a working unit
You probably shouldn't be doing any crazy overclocks for Folding. Sending bunk work back isn't cool. If your results compared to a clone version of someone else's work doesn't match they have to do it again. Simply setting the power limit to max is still stable, an overclock could take 24 or more hours of testing that checks results like realbench to know if you cause errors.
i want a glowing green n95 mask with black text, better if it comes with usb refiltering
I just changed my Team ID. I stand with GN!
My pc has been sitting idle for 2 days waiting for WUs. Kind of bummed
Little hands on with either, but as I understand it, Folding@home leverages GPUs. if you want to use your CPU, use Boinc, which leverages CPU instead. As with all things UnRaid, SpaceInvaderOne has a good video on installing a docker container in your server to use either. Boinc seems to be the best option for my server to use, since it has 12 idle cores to melt, but only a PCI 640x480 VGA video card.
LN2 overclocking and folding sounds like a good way to sabotage important science experiments to me. Shouldn't stability be paramount for this?
i remember overclocking being a concern when i was folding years ago but if i understand it correctly each work unit is sent out to several folding clients, thus all confirming each others result !
If you use BOINC, the ROSETTA@HOME project is working on COVID-19
Currently folding with a 9900K@5GHz and RTX 2080 Ti. Room is now a hot furnace but it's worth it for the cause. Go Team GN!
Cure coin should be the only crypto worth anything. At least the hardware goes to a good cause
Yeah exactly, as long as Gridcoin.us can also join cause they do the same for BOINC and support a more diverse selection of projects
@@jadoei13 I wasn't aware of grid coin, but its a good idea never the less.
We cant bribe corona-chan
Buildzoid's enthusiasm made me buy a Kingpin 2080Ti. Sure enough, no coil whine, unlike the Strix OC 2080Tis it replaced
😂😂 the corsair mask got me good lmao
nice on the folding.
I would imagine LN2 is a critical supply in these times. It has a lot of industrial uses, and if memory serves it is also used in some medical machines like MRIs.
Considering the air is 78% nitrogen, I'd be sort of shocked if it's in limited supply, especially with all the welding shops closed.
Is that a copy of Atari's E.T. The Extraterrestrial next to that Pentium Pro box? And that looks like Crystal Castles a few shelves down...nice
My CPU and GPU are both chugging away at folding proteins while I wait for HL:Alyx to release
Phase change cooling is an option if liquid nitrogen or dry ice supplies have evaporated.
OK the Corsair RGB mask got a laugh. Well done.
Waiting for work units has by far been the biggest issue holding my 5700 XT system back. I have no real idea what i could get if my PC "idled" all day considering it constantly is missing anything to do.
Well I set up folding, it did it for over 5 hours and earned 1500+ points, and then did nothing for days.
The servers are hammered right now, hard to allocate workloads and communicate to the server.
LTT said they're gonna help F@H by having a server on their premises to handle some of the allocation and data transfer.
@@HotboiEngineering good to know
thanks
Joined the team! :)
I've run F@H for years, I love that so many are joining the fight. But I hate that I can't get WU's consistently.
Just after I posted this, I finally got a CPU WU again, woot!
There is a FAH Bench program that is not WU dependant
@GNSteve FAH points by username can be more than 1 machine, if you want to displant one person's score, in 24 hours, simply bring more machines with the same username online at the same time. For fun sure try to get the work unit done as fast as you can, but most finish in about an hour or less depending on the work unit and the cpu. Suggest trying out that $4000 64 core 128 thread AMD threadripper or a bunch of Nvidia compute cards to crank out as many work units as you can. Even still, the fah group has more doners than they have work they need done at this time, as evident by the lack of work units, and server strain. But they are working on expanding their server capacity and speed of the research work units.
I'm surprised Corsair was so restrained with how much RGB they put in their mask.
I went to buy a 3900x the other day. I looked at the price at my local store the night before, $779. Next morning before I was about to leave I checked again, $850...
F@H: my work units won't download - are the servers overloaded?
Again, where did Sony say they're not using SMT? DigitalFoundry (on Eurogamer) lists 16 threads on PS5.
It does have 16 threads. Sony lists that on their website blog.us.playstation.com/2020/03/18/unveiling-new-details-of-playstation-5-hardware-technical-specs/
@Gamers Nexus just an FYI you can't currently select COVID-19 for preferential work. Just an FYI
IIIEEEEEE "don't do that" killin me Steve. Time Stamp 8:30
If theres 1 way to get gamers involved, its points. It's the virtual tape measure.
In my experience over the past weeks, I have noticed the prices augment significantly and behave erratically (Western Europe).
I was planning and researching for my first build (that's how I found Gamers Nexus) so I was looking at these prices almost every day. Then human malware happened.
I have continued to observe the prices and the most significant one I have seen has been the RTX 2060 specifically the MSI Gaming Z model. I remember it was under 380€ and then it changed to over 460€ with a 6€ difference from the 2060 SUPER Gaming X (I saw that this morning). Now I went back and checked before posting this comment and the 2060 SUPER Gaming X is now 515€ and the Gaming Z is 483€. I also saw the Ryzen 5 3600 augment from 177€ to 188€ and the B450 Tomahawk Max is around 150€ or out stock if cheaper whereas before it was around the 120€.
I have been researching to see if I am the only one noticing this, but so far no one has confirmed if there is something actually happening or if it's just a coincidence. I've read that PC parts' prices are increasing independent of human malware, but this quick?!
Needless to say, that build seems not to be happening anytime soon...
What country here in prices didn't change at all
@@shadowguardian3612 France and you?
@@edd338 spain
@@shadowguardian3612 and one would think it would be the same for you in terms of prices.
I just checked and the Ryzen 5 3600 has noe dropped 7€.
I am far from knowledgeable when it comes to price fluctuations, but I have never seen such quick and somewhat drastic changes. Not to mention the overpriced parts aside from the price fluctuations. I mean, come on, an RTX 2060 for almost 500€...
@@edd338 sometimes sellers on amazon create highier prices beacause they think that the prices will inflate or they just don't have the card or whatever. The last time something similar happend was the mining boom where a 1080Ti inflated from 700€ to 1500€.
Donating my R9 3900x, old haswell Xeon, GTX 1060, and GTX 1080ti to the GN F@H team. Amazingly the 3900x earns the same points per day as the GTX 1060! Altogether I'm hitting around 3 million points per day! I'll need the 3900x to do my own bioinformatics work again but 24hrs can't hurt.
Do you have any ideas on best motherboard and processor for both gaming and autocad? I have to do my school at home for the rest of the semester. Or somewhere to go and ask? Thank you.
Did someone say flex on Linus?! I’m all in on that!
Vulkan has ray tracing as a standard extension already, surprised you didn't cover than but covered the DX version.
How about 4K Ultra HD blu-ray support on either PS5 or the new XBox?
You need a "CASCADE PHASECHANGE COOLER" -120C 24/7 under load would not be a problem.
Too bad the folding at home doesn't work on my main machine for Linux. I keep getting errors and can't see to reach out anywhere for help.