Sights for MY V3X || A Few Solid Options
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- Sights for MY V3X || A Few Solid Options
We are trying to find the best sight option for the 2022 Mathews V3X. We take a peak at Axcel Landslyde dovetail, Spot Hogg Fast Eddie and XL and chat about what Black Gold promises to bring to the table. We do not cover all available options, more to come.
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You guys should go a review on the Ultraview UV3XL hunting scope
At the 2022 ATA show, B3 debuted the "Exact Rize" sight that has the bar milled to fit the Mathews V3X riser, with an offset in the bar to help with L/R windage adjustments.
Dude... Just found your channel and SO glad I did. I'm a fellow PNW guy (from OR living in WA State and we've got property and family in N.Idaho) who's just gotten into Bowhunting. SO much awesome knowledge to be had in this content. Thanks for all the hard work and all the insight.
That is awesome!
I shoot traditional archery but I still enjoy your guys videos including these and also over at podium archery. I enjoy all archery in general. One reason I shot trad is for this reason so I don't have to worry about messing around with sights. Or if a cam is out of time or if a string and cables needs to be replaced. I don't have any bow shops close by. So it's easier for me to ABT (Always Be Tinkering) with my trad bows on my own that way. Keep up the great work.
Love shooting trad. It's all I hunt with. What do you shoot?
Fast Eddie XL triple stack on the V3X 33 is the way I went. Def not disappointed.
Always use that intro it’s the best so far I love it
I just bought a 2022 Mathews V3X-33 w/ new Catfish custom strings, Vaportrail Intgr8 rest (integrated), Ultraview Sideplates, and Redline RL Torch 2-pin Dovetail sights. My cousin is building it for me I should be getting it this wkend.
Black Gold getting mad respect 💯💪 Black Gold are getting it for a reason 💯 They be way nice... Lol
Cabela's landslides no dovetails have to buy the dovetail from true ball but works just fine if you convert it
I got a V3X 33 and installed the CBE Trek Pro. It has a dove tail with a mount for standard side mount. I just used that because it looked like using the dove tail hole in tghe bow would move the site over to the middle and there may not be enough movement to the right for wind-age for the front site to line up with my center shot. Center shot is right to specs. Just moved my top two top hats around to get to the bullet holes. Before I moved my top two top hats extreme amounts of rest movements to the side would not get a straight flying arrow with a bullet hole. Moved the top hats and the rest barely needed to move 1/32nd of an inch for good bullet holes.
You need to do a update video on the Black Gold sight and the Bridge Lock. I was just on their website and it wasn’t much help.
Spott Hogg released an adjustable block attachment for this issue at the ATA show that they said will not be available for the next few months, after you responded to me josh they reached back out and said with the new dovetail mount 3,5,7 pin heads will not adjust properly and the only heads that will work on the fast Eddie, fast Eddie xl, Hogg father are the 1&2 pin heads until this attachment is released.
Great content and answered a lot of questions for many people. When BG releases their dovetail, we will still have the same windage issues we are having with the other dovetail mounts, correct? Until the sight manufacturers redesign the sight to accommodate this new mounting system, any dovetail mount right now will be close or maxed out on windage. Axcel makes a bracket for the landslyde but the bracket move the sight over to the right or left - why would you use a bracket and not just mount it traditionally on the side of the riser if you’re going that route? Whole point of the bridge lock is to have the bow more balanced - if you use a bracket and mount the sight using a dovetail, you’re negating the ‘bridgeloc’ system. Also, with the axcel bracket it will partially cover your sight tape. As it stands for most, the only option we have to make it work is to use a 31mm sight housing. If you use a 41mm sight, you’re going to have an issue. I am hoping they redesign these sights to have ample windage using the dovetail without a bracket.
If you have a black gold just a suggestion, make a spacer out of 1/2 in thick aluminum that will bolt too the dove tail and bolts up to the sight with a wider mount pattern.
There are some out there just depends on how many pins you want. Single, three or five. You can buy any of them and then buy a separate sight and dove tail. I got mine last year.
I love my Mathew’s bows but I feel when bow companies decide to totally redesign their bows there needs to be some kind of better communication between them and accessory companies. This bow is amazing but it totally put everyone behind the 8 ball for using the complete setup. Luckily Hamskea jumped out fast on a fix but everyone eles is on a back log. Also it would have been nice if they would have made a Mathew’s addition 1 or 2 pin slider sight then the 5 pin due to that is the more popular sight. Thanks for the video and keeping us informed.
I’m really surprised they did not come out with an Axcel single pin Mathews addition too.
I just took my Hamskea Trinity off my V3X 29 and we just installed the Hamskea Epsilon.
Awesome rest!
I chose to use my Hogg Father Dovetail for now.
But I am going to end up buying a landslyde with carbon dovetail.
I have it on order now.
I really don’t think that Matthews cares whether or not other company’s products work with their bow.
They want you to buy the Matthews addition Axcel.
They want you to buy the QAD integrated rest.
It’s up to the other companies to catch up to Matthews.
“Catch us if you can”
@@jayonez137 Exactly what I’m running! Your right I’m sure they do! If they did a Axcel single Mathew’s slider they would sell like hotcakes
I buy all my Mathew’s bows 3-4 years after they come out, used. I get fully loaded bows for $500-$600. Buying the latest model is just not in my thought process.
I believe that in such a competitive industry bow manufacturers such as Mathews and Hoyt are Leary of letting their planned improvements be known even to accessories manufacturers because other bow companies may get wind of them and adopt similar improvements and technologies before the new models are released.
@@Thedudeabides803 i like that, was thinking about doing the same. Do you change strings, cams, etc. when u buy one like that ?
Just put s longer threaded rod on your scope for more windage, left and right.
Thank you for the video. These tinkering sessions are invaluable for perspective. I ended up putting the triple stack fast eddie xl on my bow. Surprisingly, it sits pretty level so far. I am a good 3 holes in, though, on the dovetail.
Good stuff!
Just got my dovetail for the blackgold the other day it fits great!! Slides in perfect no slop. My mountain lite has a ton of windage I’m pretty much set up dead center even my pro shop said that that was the most windage of any of the sights with the dovetail mount. Great job blackgold!!!
Where can I get one? Can you provide a link. What the name?
Wilderness archery in Roseville ca call them they can prob ship one out
I run a fast Eddie xl on my V3x 33 have gone on 3 hunts and been shooting daily no issues. But what I did do from watching previous video’s of mfjj I put electrical tape on my sight to make it a better fit. But no issues.
I swear MFJJ is the absolute best.
I have a landslyde sight with the picatinny mount for the hoyt. I just bought a V3X and now I am going to use my landslyde for the v3x an when I called axcel to order the carbon bar I also had to order their bridgelock windage adapter. That is what I was told by them I had to do for that sight to work on the new v3x.
I have a machine shop and decided to designed and CNC machined a few picatinny mounts to convert my spot hog sights... If demand is there we can supply if you want to work together for any and all conversations. It seems all the sight manufacturers are a bit behind
I wish I would of seen this video yesterday morning. I just spontaneously purchased a V3X yesterday. Yep bought the Fast Eddie XL double pin. This is the first sliding sight I have ever used. Yep. Couldn’t adjust it far enough right. I’m not sure what the piece is called. But the bar that the housing is attached to I took off and flipped it over then slid it as far right as I can. Only problem is I can’t see the entire ring. But I do have a little adjustment to move left and right now.
Great video, so glad I’m waiting to buy a new bow. My Halon 32 and king pin lite 3 pin head is looking good. My hha dovetail on the side in a mount that slides snug and sets the same nice and straight in the detents looks like a luxury item.
Spot hogg is now offering a new adapter for there sight S&S archery on TH-cam it’s called the quick connect adapter
First off, what’s up fellas?! Love the content, keep it up. I have drifted to the dark side this year and purchased the V3X 33”. I have been a Hoyt shooter my entire life (27yrs) of shooting. I currently shoot the Hogg Father and might have the same windage issues. If I completely bomb out I will probably just side mount the sight. I would love to spend thousands a year on different equipment but I can’t see parting with a killer $400 sight because it doesn’t fit in the riser slot. It is what it is I guess but I am looking forward to starching the Mathews legs.
Hey I was short on money and had to go with the Rocky Mountain single pin site and it actually works great. It fits really tight and I have not had any issues with windage. It’s actually turned out to be a great site. One nice thing about the Rocky Mountain dovetail is that it’s only 130 bucks. One downfall people need to know though. The site does not come with site tape. I had some from another site I have so I was good. I hope this helps.
I’m here to vote for black gold customer service is the best I’ve ever dealt with I work in a shop and have had to deal with about everyone never accel so they might be okay also but of everyone else black gold is by far the best they will for sure take care of you they also re designed their dovetails for all the Mathews guys we are also a Mathews dealer and they really kicked ass to get all of it done and out to people
If more companies go to having the dove tail through the riser, hopefully they keep it universal. Trying to keep up with every bow manufacturer having different sizes, I would imagine would lead to more inventory problems and longer wait times.
Great video, you guys should do a video on your case setups. With ever growing accessories my bow and everything I need barely fits in my skb hardcase that is barley two years old
Not a bad idea. I just bought a Pelican Air 1745 Bow Case and it's amazing (so far). But it is big.
Running the black gold pro sight with the direct mount and the low pro quiver V3X33 it works great!
The center mounted dovetail is an awesome idea. It looks great, and it’s weighted in the center…sounds great! I don’t want Matthews to patent that and like, limit what little primitive progression archery has left. My matthews dealer told me to not bother upgrading because of the sight issues. Do I praise Matthews for forcing brands to bend to their design? Idk man. They made a bow I’ve wanted more than any other seem a little too exclusive.
Got a spott Hogg fast Eddie XL myself
Check out the Schaffer performance archery DT air sight. Made for the western hunter- USA lightest brightest strongest hunting sight for Mathews integrated
Spot Hogg did make a new bracket to give more windage adjustment.
I’m really frustrated with these new mounting systems for Hoyt or Matthews. Regardless of platform these sight companies are not offering many options and when they do offer them they are backordered, out of stock. This was not a well thought out deployment by any manufacturer.
problem they don't want to standardize anything so they can make coin off of us. To only toss out this crap in 2 years.
@@Liam-ql7tr agreed for sure, I love the tech, just bummed there’s no focus. It really would help us all if they figured it out! Lol…oh wait it’s all about money…
Spot Hogg Fast Eddie XL!
One day soon I’ll be shooting a bow like that. Just got to keep grinding. Thank you guys for doing this. Black gold is the way I would go also.
My V3 31 with a fast Eddie xl 3 pin ran out of windage. Luckily where its at im okay but i have no more left adjustment. I contacted spot hogg to see if they had a bigger L bracket or ran into this problem before and never got response after multiple attempts. Shitty customer service if you ask me. Id spend the extra money and get the black and gold fixed mount if i could go back in time.
Super helpful information. MFJJ has me eyeing up Black Gold for reelz.
Evolve archery in milton Ontario Canada has some in stock.
Another great video Dan. Hey I have a Traverse right now with the nock on fsst Eddie Ne fixed mount. I'm buying the V3X 33 this weekend and I'm glad to see that this will work with that bow. Did I miss understand mfjj that the accel dovetail will work with this sight? I'd like to take advantage of the dovetail mount without buying a new sight.
Landslydes are 8 months backorder? ah crap, I was waiting for one but I'm not waiting that long. I guess I'm going with a Spotthog
I know a shop that's got 5 landslydes in stock. 1 pin and 5 pin. However, the catch is, its the version with the picatinny base for Hoyt. If you want to buy it for a non-hoyt, you gota buy the base you need. Reply to this comment if you want the info.
Always been a huge fan of Black Gold sights, but somewhat interested in the Ultraview UV3 double pin hunting kit. Have you guys tinkered with that system at all? Appreciate all the content guys!
Very off topic, but i'm curious about Dan/Josh's opinion on how arrow speed relates to how well broadheads tune. Yes, the faster the arrow the tighter the pin gap, but also less forgiving? Interested to see what experience they have with this. Love the content, keep it up!
barely watching this video but i totally agree with you!
have you looked at the B3 archery dovetail. It just came out at the ATA and it is "bent" to allow for windage elevation.
Dan, have you considered trying an Elite bow? They are so easy to shoot.
Hey guy..... just for information the picatinny rail fit perfectly for 10box
I'm glad it's about parts I can't get!
I already have the new black gold dovetail only waited a week till they shipped.
I know it’s awesome before I even watch it brother !
Spot Hogg Triple Stack is the way to go! Best sight on the market IMO.
I have mine maxed out on the windage and I am missing the x by and inch and a half.
@@johnmelton8740 spot hogg just released a better windage adjustment bracket at the ata2022. Give them a call. Should fix your issue.
What quiver do you run? I’m hearing that the low pro detach won’t fit because of the dovetail or something
really glad i bought by landslyde when i did lol
I like that better than hoyts picatinny style of mounting sights
Thanks for the awesome videos been looking at new sights what do you like better the black gold or the spot hogg and how many pins been looking at the new 3 pin from spot hogg or is the 2 pin from black gold better. I have a Tru glo 4 pin now so be an upgrade.
Black Gold and HHA over all Spot Hogg. Unless your on a boat and you need a boat anchor ⚓️. Then go with Hogg and it's plastic gears. Lol
Great video. When are the double stack sights going to be available
How does the landslyde compare to the black gold and spot Hogg sights?
Any chance you guys could do a HHA dovetail mount I would like to see how it fits on their
New to the archery game looking for a new sight right now I have a trophy ridge 5 pin. Want a clearer sight picture looking at the spot hogg triple stack or black gold dual. Any help would be great.
Should I buy good sight and stabilizer or buy a v3x I’m shooting a Mathews vertix
Stupid question what size of lens or sun shade will will fit the Mathews bridge lock sight,...ABT
thanks for the info
If you have windage issues on your Spot Hogg dove tail fast Eddie or standard 3/5/7 pin sight that uses the factory "L" block for adjustment, I have the solution. Machined Aluminum "L" block to provide more adjustment. This will work with large diameter MRT rings. Give me a shout to see if this will work for you.
Apparently we have the same sense of humor
FIRST BOOM!
Well theoretically if the tip will fit, it will go.
Given enough lube....
CBE, HHA or the Canyon Pounder, f you ask me.
I’m curious if the low-pro quivers fit the v3.
There was no CBE in this video but I did get a message from them saying they are working on an adapter for the brideg lok system as well. So for those wondering it should be coming!
What do you think about using a target sight for hunting? I have a Shibuya ultima and was going to pair it with the ultra view hunting scope?
Just curious- have you tinkered with the EZV sight to see if it is applicable for you guys? As a still hunter in the jungles of the West coast not having to range in the field is a biiiiiiiig deal
Mr. Scheel i was wondering about the EZV sight i hunt in extremely think areas where 40yds is max range. How do u like yours so far?? Accuracy at 40yds n less?? I got a deal on EZV with all the inserts for $25 i figured id give it a try.
@@keithdodson7536 so far so good with mine- I was quite surprised at how effective it is once you get practice/train your cerebellar memory. It’s definitely a 50 yard sight, but I won’t shoot over 50 on an animal anyways. The benefits in low light are pretty awesome too.
I have a trophy ridge react one dove tail on mine. It has a little adjustment left but not much. I started buried to the right and was shooting a few inches left at 20.
Shawn, how tight is the dovetail? I'm thinking about buy this sight. Thanks for your help.
@@brianbrulz5717 I actually didn’t mount it myself. Now show did but I don’t recall it moving much. It has not moved. Green acres sporting goods in Jacksonville florida mounted it.
Thanks for the info!
I have the react dove tail as well. Made my bow louder with more vibration. Have you heard of this happening?
@@michaelspangler526 I now have the dove tail that is made for the v3x. Mine fits very nice and no added noise. If you are hearing extra sound then most likely something is loose. Tap on your bow in various place to see if you can find a rattle.
What’s better . Running a sight close to the riser or as far away possible from the riser ?
We all generally run close to the riser! -DS
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do they have landslyde's in stock?
@@tylervine983 They had 100~ of different variations last week. Picatinny, dovetail, 5 pin, 3pin, single etc
@@bix12593 I called and they said they won't ship them. Could I pay you to buy one and ship it to me lol
I have the V3X and the triple stack. I have the triple stack maxed out and I do not have any more room to move it. The arrow is about and inch and a half off the mark. I am thinking about putting ng a washer between the block. Any ideas because the windage is maxed out
Does the fast Eddie XL 5 pin have enough windage?
Hey Dan are you going to run the black gold sight this year on that bow?
Does MFJJ have the black gold dual track
Idk if it's me or what but my Sure-Loc dovetail sight vibrates something fierce & I can't stand it....... I looked at other people's bows with a spotthogg and axcell and they vibrate too. . . . . I can't stand my bow being a giant tuning fork - Is there something I'm missing for vibration dampening ???
Can you modify Spot Hogg Fast Eddie to a Fast Eddie XL? Do they sell just the bar?
Also what light is on your sight?
I have the single pin pro, I’m within return window on Amazon. Is the dual track worth it for somebody whom primarily does target and 3d shooting? Or keep what I got thanks!
so black gold on their web sight now say that the dovetail they have listed "will now fit V3X" anyone tried it yet?
I wonder if an apex covert dovetail fits
Which black gold sight is that? I think I heard dual trac at 9:09?
Literally cannot find a Landslyde to even back order lol
Lancaster you can back order and they will charge you when it ships .granted I've been backordered since October on a landslyde. Hopefully I can get one, AXCEL needs to up their game.
Why not get a sight from option archery?
Love the channel y’all!
Check out sword sights. I love mine so far and they solved the windage issue (thinner mounting bracket) and the fitment on the dovetail is great (close to accel if not as good).
I’ll post pics/videos if anyone would like to see it.
What do you guys think of the EZ V bow sight?
Kinda pisses me off tht Mathews would only make a fixed 5 pin when thousands of hunters love using a slider. Don't get it. Anyways, do u have any issues with ur spot Hogg being that you don't have anymore windage adjustment?
Any thoughts on the Dialed Arxos?
#TDD
How does the HHA Tetra dovetail fit in the V3X guys?
what sights fits the Hoyt pica tinny mounts
This is a big miss for Mathews IMO. They should have done more pre-production in working with sight companies to make this better. This was a HUGE sell for what was great this year on the V3X and it’s almost a whiff. 1 sight company that fits perfectly and 2 others that we can “Frankenstein” sounds just gimmicky.
Put the screw in there and find out
Guess ill have to keep mounting my sight the old school way on my piece of crap 2021 v3. Its not even good anymore compared to mounting my sight in the riser.
Who has the dual trac in stock?
eBay