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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2021
- I took the Boeing 787-9 for the first time last week and something unexpected happened : an aborted takeoff !
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Airline: LOT polish airlines 🇵🇱
Aircraft: Boeing 787-9
Registration: SP-LSC
Age: 3.2 years old
Takeoff from : runway 33 at Warsaw Chopin airport (WAW)
To: Heraklion 🇬🇷
Taken on: 1st August 2021
Seat number: 4A
Taken with : IPhone 7
Livery : special Poland independence livery
Reason of the rejected takeoff is unclear : The captain told us it's was due to weather problems which I believe it's was a lie because there's plane taking off during our waiting period for the brake to cool down then an aircraft maintenance came... Later I was told by a WAW spotter that they heard that the captain told to the ATC that there's a technical problem.
UPDATE : the reason of the rejected takeoff was due to a problem with the right engine ! Source : www.aeroinside.com/15983/lot-...
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UPDATE : the REASON of the REJECTED TAKEOFF was due to a problem with the right engine (that 787-9 has roll Royce trent 1000 as engine)
You can now see the full rejected takeoff here : th-cam.com/video/hC6jDbesn0M/w-d-xo.html
I thought it was something else
Now I see. Yikes
@@keeyonass5127 nah, I just posted the full rejected takeoff that was too long to be posted as a short. Anyway make sure to check the trip report of that flight !
Isn’t the 787 a genx engine?
@@amazingthings3516 the Boeing 787 Dreamliner can be equipped with Roll Royce Trent 1000 engine or GENX engine. Lot polish airline has chose RR engine for their 787.
You know what's amazing? How quickly those planes accelerate but also how quick they are when stopping.
Only if V1 isn't reached. Otherwise it has to fly.
@@Ihaveanamenowtaken there has being a case it still stopped after V1 depends on the length of the runway and the size of the aircraft
@@osomeric3277 V1 is the speed at which they should not abort the takeoff. Otherwise as you say, they will not safely make it before the end of the runway. Otherwise, likely the math was wrong and then that's another issue entirely. But you'll have to have a damn good reason to do so.
@trilight3597 No it's correct, V1 as such is a decision speed that counts in a 2 second buffer to react, plus for dry runways, it's calculated without the use of reverse thrust, so logically if you then use it, the stopping distance will decrease. That at reaching V1 take-off can't be aborted anymore is more of an airline safety and also cost-saving instruction, but if you react within those two seconds (if you count in reverse thrust probably three), you are still fine aborting a take-off after V1, and the calculations are correct
@@Ihaveanamenowtaken unnecessary information.
Thats why you make sure your seat belt is securely fastened for take off
Keep your shoes on as well, in case you need to leave the plane...
@Romain Bellion I'm a divil for flying in socks
Someone's getting fired
@@criostoirocuinn John McClain?
Brake check
One of the moments pilots are paid for. When anything isn't ok...
They are always looking for things that are not right as much as flying the a/c
Thats when experience come in. When you fly so much, a tiny weird feeling or sound will be a suspicious prolem and you have to work fast to find the problem
There is always something to do in the cockpit.
@jcb5713 yup, alway. If it even seem like it is not. It still is or find something to do
Ok guys let’s try it again. Everybody got a quick ride down the runway.
The two most underrated pilot maneuvers are the rejected takeoff and the missed approach. I'd much rather get there late than in a black plastic bag, thank you.
How so?
Ou sac bleu ou dans la mer aucun sac
Y eso si quedan restos de ti
@@RLTtizME they wrap unalived bodies in black bags
@@RLTtizMEMaybe just maybe because I want to live... hmm, no idea.
And that's why you are still alive. The pilots doing what they were trained to do.
I mean the planes can fly with one engine also takeoff
But yeah
While yes planes can fly on just 1 engine, it is all about maximizing safety. Flying with 1 engine means you can not afford a mid-air engine failure. Safer to just put the passengers on a fully working plane that has 2 engines.
@@hectorwood944 yeah but most likely they will immediately return back to the airport for safety reasons.
@@hectorwood944 Sure they do, only when they have passed V1 decision speed. This pilot did a fantastic job by adhering to the protocol 👍
This guy flying probably saved all your lives. Mannn, those brakes musta been red like a cherry! Fine aviation work!
Well not really, as the airplane flies fine on one engine m.
@@lovetopew9054 yeah if an engine went out they likely would have been fine
Reverse thrust helped spare the brakes from too much work...
@@JungleYT on normal landings yes but on an aborted takeoff they care more about not overrunning the runway than saving the brakes
@@jacklets3851 OK Good point... Break out the bacon! LOL
The magic of reverse thrust!!
It's the brakes that did most of the work
@@AgriculturalSim brakes?
@@bluDrk yes airplanes have brakes and the auto brakes brake automatically when you abort the takeoff if they are turned on. The pilots turn them on before takeoff (sry if my english is not so good)
@@oskar4641 bro wdym sry💀💀
Part of the cockpit checklist to always set the autobrakes to RTO even way before pushback. So you guys are safe. The pilots are trained for this (including Zibo and PMDG simmers)
Pilots aren’t paid to be present when the autopilot is flying. They’re paid to be present and fix problems when they manifest
That's just not true, pilots are required to continually monitor the aircraft even when the auto pilot is on.
We are paid for what we can do in an emergency , more so than the everyday routine
Moments like landing in the Hudson River.
@@monty4336 There have been plenty of cases of magnificent airmanship in dire circumstances .
As an airplane mechanic, let me reassure you that no. It is not the pilot's job to fix problems when they arise. (Outside of onboard measured approved for pilots)
That's OUR job.
It is the pilot's job to contain or even iscolate yhe problem as best they can, do the safest thing they can for the passengers, log the problem in the airplane's maintenance logbook, and report it to us.
Pilots fly them.
But _we_ are the ones that fix them. 👌
Pilot forgot his iPhone charger at the terminal 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Coffee was doing its magic 😂😂
🤣😂
🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
The engine quit working ⚒ as they were taking off and abort the take off.
this happed to mom and me on the flight in mps30years ago.
Lightening speed reaction by the pilot, bravo.
Happened before v1 call out. Reaction speed has nothing to do with anything.
It's procedure to reject a take-off if engine performance is out of parameters before v1.
@@smokeyjayshouseI’ve heard a plane can still pull a rejected takeoff clearance After V1?
Tens tota la raó , moltes gràcies pel teu comentari ,. Bendicions desde Catalunya,. Una abraçada.
@@bentley8937yes but in that case the runway should be extremely long if you're gonna attempt a rejected takeoff after V1
Rolls Royce sound is just epic!
Yeah, I was surprised see hear how silent is it on the 787 !
GE90?
@@AviationLF I mean 777?
@@anjusachan2384 I flew a 787 not a 777. What do you mean 777 ?
@@AviationLF taking about the sound of 777 engine it's awesome but in 787 it's a bit silent
I love the flight attendants saying head set off and head down after they have already come to a complete stop haha. Little late.
is nice
Probably because people wanted to start moving around. You could hear seat belts being clicked open.
I know Delta procedures, but I think it's procedure to shout if you veer off the runway, they might have felt like it's going off the runway or might over shoot
@@LS-Motohaha fr passengers ready to take their bags off from overhead
The sad thing is, this would annoy a lot of passengers. Not knowing that this pilot most likely just saved all of their lives. The pilot did this for a reason. Trust me.
That's all people are good at when it comes to aviation. Whining, crying, complaining, insulting. I'm always AMAZED at how retarded people can be when a flight is delayed due to technical problems. That's literally one way to say "we noticed something wrong and won't risk your life for no reason". But no. The urge to yell is stronger 🗣
As amazing as a takeoff is,seeing the incredible amount of energy scrubbed off in order to get these birds stopped on a rejected takeoff is equally amazing to me.
Happens more often than people think. Pilots must have encountered something they didn’t like and it wasn’t safe.
Hell I heard the rattling bang and seen the vibration thru the phone. The pilot couldn't miss it. 🤣🤣🤣
Better to be safe than sorry.
He didn't abort to be safe. He did it because he had to. There's a calculated speed (Called V1) that you abort if a problem occurs before that speed. Beyond that speed, you continue the takeoff.
When take off and landing happen simultaneously 🤣🤣
Yeah, kinda 🫠
what landing? it never took off the runway...
@@christophergorge joke lol
Everything about the 787 is just stunning! The view of the wing flexing and that beautiful RR engine, man.
Yep, don’t forget the MCAS too.
Except its built by Boeing! 😅
@@3asterMcas was never on the 787 because it was specially built for the 737 as the lower position of its engines would push the plane up more
@@Adumzzinthehouse and they slipped it there and told their engineers to 🤫
@@3aster Nah but they left the ladders and tools inside the 787 so that it could cause the next 737 incident
We are so proud of our Polish pilots, they are seasoned top of the crop. ❤
the deceleration rate must've felt insane
They were probably going 160 mph so it was probably a 20mph decel rate
when the brakes hit you can hear things like luggage rattling and things falling in the backround so it was pretty significant.
@@jacklets3851not even close to that speed LOL…
@@lovetopew9054 How? V1 on 787 is 160-180 knots which is around 180-200 mph. Considering this happened right before v1 so maybe 140-150 knots 160 mph is a very accurate guess.
@@Kappadar it didn’t happen right before V1, not even close to it. Look at the runway markings. The roll was extremely short.
Great response from both the pilot and cabin crew. The "Head down, stay down" chant from the attendants lets you know they're looking out for your safety all the time.
“Head down head down” they say that when the plane is not moving anymore lmao💀
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Everyone stood up to see wtf was happening and did something go seriously wrong. So that's why the crew are saying "Head down". I do have to admit it sounded like "Get down" which makes more sense
Somehow you think your comment was hilarious.
@@RLTtizME somehow you still care 10 months later
Amazing the power needed to stop this plane from lifting off and probably just saved lives due to a warning in the cockpit..cudos to the fast action of the pilot.
Tens tota la raó , moltes gràcies pel teu comentari ,. Bendicions desde Catalunya,. Una abraçada.
The video was amazing but I like the video quality as the people who record the passenger view of takeoff and landing don't have such a great quality mate 👏,and its really impossible to believe that a 100 tonne plane travelling at 250 kmph stopped in just 5 seconds,great mechanism
Thank you for watching :) I’ll post soon the full rejected takeoff and the flight report !
@@AviationLF thanks
More like 170kmph
250km/h? Speak knots please, 250km/h will be around the rotation speeds, V1 would be around 100-130kn(lower V1 applicable for poor runway condition or standing water) so they had to be below this to abort, if they were 250km/h (around 135kn) they’d be committed to the take off, even with one engine.
They were obviously below V1 since they had enough distance left to stop on the runway
@@m_swizzy22 yes you right, I think it's below 250km per hour.if the speed reach that number the plane would be takeoff already..
Good brakes and response by the pilots. I didn't know how quickly they could come to a stop Good job. 🌹❤❤
787-9 engine RR i love the sound ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Literally everything that was not fastened flew through
That was neat as I've never seen a RTO from the passenger side, luckily you guys didn't hit V1
Whats V1
@@yousryyou6859 V1 is the threshold speed for an aircraft. If the aircraft on the runway has the speed below V1, the pilots can reject takeoff and stop the aircraft safely on the runway. If the speed is higher than V1, the pilots MUST CONTINUE the takeoff and make the aircraft airborne at any cost. Rejection of takeoff above V1 will cause that the aircraft stops beyond the runway, which may cause damages to the structure or danger to people. V1 is calculated before each takeoff, taking into account the total mass of the aircraft, wind speed and direction, available runway length, temperature etc.
@@jarekferenc1149 It can be rejected above v1 if there is no way to get the plane up. I read an article where the elevator control surfaces were locked in the full nose down but the pilots had no way to know because their stick still moved freely. They didn't know until they got to rotate speeds. They decided to attempt to abort the takeoff. They were going to overrun the end either way but aborting the takeoff meant they did it at a much slower speed.
Yeah... otherwise they would have had to make a version 2 📹
@@jacobhinger5039if you're "unable to fly" you're screwed, but that's super unlikely. Single engines failures and stuff like that is much more common
That engine is so incredibly smooth!
You could hear on the spool up something was off. This is why you fasten your seatbelts
The 787 too, that’s a damn powerful plane
That bird had some decent anchors 💪🏿
Calling planes “ birds” shows you aren’t in aviation as a profession
@@justing42 your point being?
In November 1993 I was on a 747 departing Kai-Tak in Hong Kong when the takeoff was aborted really late. We were never told why, but when the plane eventually took off, there was a constant flow of water from some of the overhead lockers.
Thank you flight attendants for saying head down when the plane is fully stopped.
I think that's one of the best RTO vids out there.
The pilot immediately notices he just received a message that he's gonna be paying child support 🤣🤣
Sorry guys I forgot my phone
😂🗿💀🆘
Great work, the replace was had zero hesitation, he heard a problem, was below V1 (the speed at which you must take off you will run out of runway) and instantly aborted.
All the possible measures had been taken to avoid possible risk prior to take off. Salute the pilots for being taken right decision at the high time. ❤
Delays in airline travel suck. But it's better that they caught the problem on the ground before exceeding V1 than up in the air.
The reverse thrust is incredible
Yes. The fastest stop I ever experienced!
Its the brakes that did most of it
@@premiumaviation1911reverse thrust is also really powerful, but yes, brakes are much more important. Also, the spoilers don't really break, they're mostly there to increase the pressure on the brakes
@@jan-lukas - …but not NEARLY as powerful as the brakes. There’s a reason every jet transport I’ve flown without auto-brakes has brake application as the first or second item, along with thrust levers to idle, and typically reverse thrust as fourth, behind spoiler deployment (if no auto-spoilers) for drag and (primarily, as you correctly pointed out) to ensure maximum weight on the wheels for maximum braking effectiveness.
@@jan-lukasnonsense…they BRAKE the wind
Wow! I have flown LOT into Warsaw.
I bet they were having fun! I was anxious just watching this. (Great engines!)
Wow. You can hear the crew commence their emergency commands: "heads down, bend down"!! - this rejected take off must have been a little scary for the passengers. 😳😳
Authorities reported that this particular flight almost left without the sausage for their in-flight meals.
Sausage ??? 😂
@@AviationLF i think the polish are required to eat polish sausage daily. XD
🤣
This is why you keep your shoes on during takeoff and landing. You never know, there might be an evacuation.
Also, always put the belt on as hard as possible. And put it harder still. It's your best insurance for not getting hurt. It's just a few minutes.
I never remove shoe onboard a plane only when I sleep. And always keep your seatbelt in case and unexpected turbulence!
Spot on . In actual fact the cabin crew should make you put them back on if you’ve taken them off - running bare foot through burning jet fuel ? Have fun …
Ever hear about the guy that took your suggestion and pulled his seat-belt so tight that he lost consciousness. When they got to him, his legs were purple and had to be amputated. This was around 5 months ago when you suggested it. Please watch what you say if you don't know what your talking about.
The Pilot make a right decision 👍
Good decision. Being on the ground is better than being in the air. 🫡🫡🧑✈️🧑✈️✅✅✅
If people thought your way, aviation industry would never develop :-)
Incredibly scary experiencing a rejected take-off when it's rolled almost to V1. It's such a short time frame for the pilots to make that decision
That isn’t “almost V1”
The brake and reverser input is just AMAZING
Wow! That thing must've gotten close to V1. Amazing how fast it stopped!
Any reason for the flight attendants to get the passengers into the brace position? Did anyone actually do it? That must have been confusing.
Idk unfortunately. I was sitting in business class (the the FA that said brace position was for economy passenger) and didn’t pay attention if someone actually do it (was focusing on filming the situation)
I didn't heard "brace", but it's just a standard procedure if something unexpected happens near terrain
@@AviationLF Say WHAT??? Seriously XD in my situation when we are really close to V1 speed I got rejected take off you can check because I uploud on my channel video from this situation
@@wdowa94 she was saying "head down head down head down".
Sadly I don’t expect my passengers to make it in the event of an incident.
Nobody pays attention to the safety video, I explain mothers how to put the infant seatbelt on the baby only to see them doing it the worse possible way, and people put on their seatbelts so loosely, you can fit a discovery channel morbidly obese character in there with room to spare.
Oh Rolls Royce has got a LOT to improve...
😂😂😂
They have pulled out all the stops and turned their Trent 1000 situation around in record time. It's a very compelling story
That a good joke lol
Good joke lol
😂
The big engine 😂
Really the power of reverse thrust who make difference in speed within seconds
Bro that stop made my heart go up and down 😰
The reason of this in a nutshell is that Boeing has been practicing this many times and here it is, in action!
It’s always better to be sure before taking off that everything is 100 percent than find out in air that it’s not.
Amazing how fast she stopped!
It's quite impressive how quickly a airplane can stop
Surely they must have been pretty damned close to V1 considering the papi beacon off the left wing about 2 seconds after thruster deployment and the goddamned touch down zone
V1 is highly dependent on the runway length, the aircraft's performance and the weather conditions. For example, a small business jet may not even hit V1 before it hits VR
Seconds away
Me noticing you not noticing the video correctly, I'll tell you where you went wrong
The plane just crossed the threshold of the runway they were taking off from (and not the opposite runway as you observed), meaning they literally came to the start of the runway like few seconds before the rejected takeoff..
You can tell this by seeing that where they cross the threshold, the taxiway there joins the runway in the direction of the runway (a taxiway near the end of any runway wouldn't point towards the shorter side of the runway)
And the papi lights you mentioned in your comment are standardly located on the left hand side of the runway, so in conclusion, the plane had PLENTY of runway left, literally the whole of it
@@polytekhat , correct , displaced threshold so started take off run well before threshold . Those papis were near end not far
@@richardmillhousenixon , in which case V1 is same as VR... as you can't make a go/ stop decision after you've taken off
That was extraordinary how quickly that stopped
Safety is always first!
Stops faster than a Tesla
Possible 🤨
@@AviationLF I heard Head down head down did they have to get off the plane
@@pzleader562 lucky we stayed onboard. We didn’t evacuate…
@@AviationLF oh lol
Broke down like a Tesla*
it wasn't an engine problem! the pilot clearly says that the on-board computer signaled a dangerous weather condition! if anyone knows anything more about that please explain!
Check the aviation news at the description!
Sounds like a predictive windshear alert. In this case the takeoff is always rejected if below V1 (decision speed) as continuing it could be unsafe.
@@juusojd you mean it's an auto program? :0
@@DrumToTheBassWoop the rejection doesn't happen automatically. It's done by the pilots but in essence it's a weather radar telling there can be a bad shift of wind ahead.
Ohh if that's the case 99.9% says it was because of wind sheer
Professional flight crew! I remember my training well!! Pilots did an exceptional job stopping the aircraft. However, you can hear one of the engines struggling (presumably the right one) during spool-up. Well done by all, and good video.
Wow very impressive! ✈️
Amazing engines & amazing piloting skills! Must’ve been super close to V1 as well!
Prob very close…787 too so they use a ton of the runway to get there. I bet when they came to a full stop there was very little runway left in front of them…wow.
@@sdrahcir5054 they had almost the whole runway in front of them yet LOL.
@@sdrahcir5054uh there was tons of runway left.
Thing stops like an F1 car, geeze!
Amazing to see that wing unload at what must have just been short of V1 👌
It wasn’t just short of V1, they were barely into the takeoff roll.
Impressive stopping power
Pilot stopped the plane because ol Jim Bob in the mechanic shop forgot to latch the engine cover back on.
...and the first officer failed to catch it during his preflight walkaround.
once i flew with LOT. it was amazing experience!
On short runways pilots don’t have the option of rejecting their takeoff depending on the speed and size of the plane, they have to take of once they pass a certain speed otherwise they’ll overrun the runway.
Man that Plane was on the Verge of Rotating
I experienced the same situation in Dubai. Pilot said, something was not right and that he decided to abort take off. They had to change a cable. About 45 minutes later we took off with the same airplane. Not gonna lie, I was pretty insecure. But everything was fine.
So you're telling me they replaced ceramic brake pads in 45 mins? That's actually insane
@@PrathamInCloud Brakes don't always need to be replaced after an abort. Those brakes are a lot stronger than you think as well.
@@PrathamInCloudthey aren’t brake pads. We change the whole assembly…in less than that.
L’inverseur de poussé est très efficace sur ce turbofan
Thing can stop faster than my car
Interesting that the cabin crew immediately started the call-outs! In the end it seems it was unnecessary based on the video, but they were definitely on the ball! :)
I very much doubt it that "Heads Down" is the correct call according to their SOP's.
I cannot figure out why but that couple seconds is triggering hardcore deja vu for me.
The brakes can now toast my bread
Hat off to the pilot's. Very scary.
Damn!!🤯
Hands off to cabin crew to initiate brace command.
They did it When plane stopped
@@soroosh371 Are they just telling people to sit down?
@@jaydenw7705 They're telling people to keep their heads down.
@@OneTequilaTwoTequilaSIT down. Get hearing aids.
No wonder they rejected the takeoff, there were huge holes on the sides of the engines !
Holes ???
@@AviationLF the fan intake XD
Lightening fast response from the pilots! Wow!
How do you know how fast their response was? Maybe they got the warning 2 seconds into the takeoff roll and sat on it waffling for 10 seconds trying to figure out what to do.
Я думаю на взлётной полосе была стая птиц, поэтому прервали взлёт.
Видно в иллюминатор пролетающих..
That’s a nice experience…I have flown so much never experienced it
It’s was very interesting. Make sure to check the trip report about that flight !
Gosh how do you all think this is nice & interesting, I would be so scared lol 😅
@@StevenSenjaya well I was quite scared too first but once we stopped we didn’t get evacuated so it’s was ok… but the reason of the rejected takeoff announced by the captain was really bizarre…
@@AviationLF what happpened
@@KS-lv4br The takeoff got rejected, it’s was unexpected…
It amazes me how much braking power it has
Its more the reverse thrust than anything but yeah, the brakes are a major piece. May of needed a replacement after this though
@@sdrahcir5054 what are you even talking about? Spoilers do like 10% or the work and reverse thrusters dont do as much work aswell, maybe 20%, it's all in the brakes
Thats why i dont go to any flight without 200 or 300 mils of wiskey to calm my nerves down. Great pilots!
Just need only 25 sec to stop. Amazing brake.
That was a quick stop
Yes the braking was very hard
Yeah obviously, autobrakes is always at RTO, standard procedure and reverse thrust and spoilers, everything.
great job by pilot... correct decision!
Love them RR engines - Quality engines.
Pilot left his wallet in the terminal again.
Why did the crew start shouting the evacuation commands? Usually, this has to be done if there is no message from the cockpit for 30 secs after full stop.
Apparently it’s a standard procedure with LOT when something like that happens unexpectedly
@Aviation LF Thank you. Makes sense.
Can you write, what did they shout, please? I can't understand them?
V1 hızına ulaşmadan hemen tepki göstermeleri güzel.5.6 saniye gec tepki verseler artık istesede duramazlardı.
Quickly came to stop on that speed
Plane said, “No.”
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Better rejected than crashed later. Of course I'd be upset by the delay, but the crash can really make you late too. Like the late Dent Arthur Dent.
@@TheJoker-dj4yq you apparently haven't flown. If you had, this see how pissy people get over a 30 minute delay, or diversion for a medical emergency. I wouldn't care, I'll get there eventually. Other people are horrible. Just like you, for trying to read in things that weren't there.