Mixing JONNY CRAIG vocals w/ Erik Ron - Slaves "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode"

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  • Erik Ron talks about working with Jonny Craig for the first time on "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode" by Slaves, and goes over his signal chain and process for mixing.
    He talks about when he does and doesn't double the vocals; compression strategy using a Manley, Shadow Hills AND a Softube 1176; the stock Pro Tools de-esser; reverb with the UAD plate reverb plugin; delay with Soundtoys Echoboy and more!
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  • @KrissyKoinis
    @KrissyKoinis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    can I just have hours of Jonny's raw vocals bc I could listen to them all day

  • @CGagnon5
    @CGagnon5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I really wish they'd release the isolated vocals for this song

  • @anon8538
    @anon8538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    If you guys don't know this about Jonny he will come into a studio with the song already prepared in his head. He is constantly singing just hanging out around his house or doing his daily routine. His mind is virtually a music box that never stops. Just as another bit, he walked into the studio years ago with Dance Gavin Dance and recorded the intro to Times New Roman. One take. Without saying anything.

    • @xer0cool
      @xer0cool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Ø Most great artists were on drugs.

    • @imwindex2033
      @imwindex2033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Ø jonny was good even on drugs no matter what but once he got clean hes a good person and an even better singer and still hasn't lost his vocal or lyrical tallent lmao

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      sad boi forever Was clean. Lol. Unfortunately he just relapsed.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theecarking ikk it kills me

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lil Scremo He made the right choice to stay home and get better tho. The band made it seem like he'd rather go do drugs than sing.

  • @MrChucklesGaming
    @MrChucklesGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Jonny Craig is the greatest vocalist of our generation.

  • @averyb5260
    @averyb5260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Having been a Jonny fan for 10 years, and now being an engineer, It’s been a long time since I’ve seen something I loved so much

  • @sonofskaar5729
    @sonofskaar5729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Jonny is the definition of talented

    • @ricksterdrummer2170
      @ricksterdrummer2170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If only he had a talent of staying in his bands.

    • @sonofskaar5729
      @sonofskaar5729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ricksterdrummer2170 true

  • @jlav9594
    @jlav9594 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's amazing that he talks about Jonny in such a way and Johnny was just kicked out of slaves today this video was made not even 2 weeks ago

    • @eldiablo4160
      @eldiablo4160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it doesn’t take away from who he is as a vocalist. That’s what’s being show cased here.

  • @hi.nixson
    @hi.nixson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm surprised Slaves didn't release just an acapella version of their latest album, it's a no brainer

  • @shawnkurtisTV
    @shawnkurtisTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My favorite vocalists. You're lucky man.

  • @mitch7191
    @mitch7191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can listen to just his vocal non stop all day😭

  • @chadtv3435
    @chadtv3435 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15 minutes for that masterpiece? Hes amazing vocalist!

  • @mchitti
    @mchitti 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this video is a blessing

  • @Khristian.J
    @Khristian.J 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    jonny craig and the weeknd! perfect collab

  • @PaintByBlunders
    @PaintByBlunders 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely love the way you mix vocals!

  • @echoingmelodies
    @echoingmelodies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This song is a masterpiece

  • @JamesBos
    @JamesBos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    If only I had a Macbook Pro I could mix this on...

    • @jessbarrett5598
      @jessbarrett5598 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao

    • @Yusoo8
      @Yusoo8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only you had half the voice like jonnys

  • @andrewdevall4438
    @andrewdevall4438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well now I know why Jonny sounds so much better live

  • @RelentlessOhiox
    @RelentlessOhiox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have been playing guitar for 12 years. I know all about guitar. But this. I might as well be listening / watching Japanese. I can play the song thats about it.

  • @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs
    @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude said "Silibance"........ Definitely pro

  • @KerriHooper
    @KerriHooper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking good Eyal!

  • @macrountts
    @macrountts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing. I love it, love the song, these dudes rock! Thank you for sharing!

  • @paul-ts6ot
    @paul-ts6ot 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "He almost de-essed himself"
    DEAD :')

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are a good singer, you smooth out your consonants

  • @Strawhat102
    @Strawhat102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best vocalist of all time.no question.the end.

  • @f0kxi
    @f0kxi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The message of this song is my favorite from Jonny Craig

  • @Disheartened6
    @Disheartened6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL! He starts to loosen up & be himself once the music hits😂 I was waiting for it👍👍👍

  • @ModFather_JDM
    @ModFather_JDM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    QUESTION?
    Did he also do the same to the Lyrics in slower acoustic version?

  • @AmericanMe
    @AmericanMe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Them orange slices on the back table FTW

  • @duzikh
    @duzikh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice vocalist!

  • @phs2Chelsea
    @phs2Chelsea 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this song so much

  • @therdai-art
    @therdai-art 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool take

  • @JayPlaidBatman
    @JayPlaidBatman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing

  • @GMera
    @GMera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He likes the UAD Plate so much, Good that you have 11 days left on the demo! :-) Haha

  • @joeymusic
    @joeymusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can’t wait to use some JST plugins on this!

  • @PapaRainYT
    @PapaRainYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I literally just want the stems to this song... I wanna buy them without having a membership mannn

  • @konijnensmaak
    @konijnensmaak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ooh that fade out at the end though

  • @AudioBoi1
    @AudioBoi1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy is on high from his beloving job)

  • @3brokenstrings2536
    @3brokenstrings2536 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love This!

  • @forsidekhan5405
    @forsidekhan5405 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good.

  • @hieih8
    @hieih8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Can you watch the video without sing along with Jonny? I bet you don't.

  • @Aron97.
    @Aron97. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!

  • @octopousmusic9296
    @octopousmusic9296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:14 did he say date ? or day ? shit

  • @Char-rr1qw
    @Char-rr1qw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yall are surprised at the vocal talent thats literally everywhere in pop and R&B. But you won't admit it BeCaUse ThAt IsNt ReAl MuSic.

  • @tylersyphertt3033
    @tylersyphertt3033 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My boi Eyal got some drip

  • @emanuelstude4912
    @emanuelstude4912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well yeah chances is something Jonny needs a lot of

  • @Tatt2dmoon
    @Tatt2dmoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Jonny was Slaves.

    • @user-yi8uq3jb6p
      @user-yi8uq3jb6p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Monica Weinle was in slaves*

    • @Tatt2dmoon
      @Tatt2dmoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-yi8uq3jb6p no, I meant what I typed.

  • @np466
    @np466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just put a sample on it, right?

  • @Potatodrumcrow
    @Potatodrumcrow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you selling beats?? His r&b album is fire.

  • @JUNKO____
    @JUNKO____ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The P's and G's in his vocal performance sound like he's just breathing out of his nose instead of making that P/G sound.

    • @Rygar91
      @Rygar91 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Could be from the fact that these are crazy over compressed. His tiny nose breathes are the same volume as his voice cuz of this. Like when he says "keep me on the ground" he sounds like he says "hround" but the G is still there subtly.

    • @NickThomasVocals
      @NickThomasVocals 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Allways thought this

    • @HaydenKink
      @HaydenKink 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the only thing I don't like about his vocals. He can be extremely nasaly at times and also live he can be way off key.

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's his vocal technique. Him and I sing in the same register. He uses a unique style to form words around his vibrato its definitely home grown

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He gets away with mispronouncing words because he rips lol

  • @DOUGLASaraujosoares
    @DOUGLASaraujosoares 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What plugin do you use in first slot on signal chain?

  • @Kreacher97
    @Kreacher97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone tell me what program he is using?

  • @robbie5984
    @robbie5984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simp Ladies Out Here Strong. Leeettssss 👏 Gooooooooo 👏

  • @cizlol
    @cizlol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "he almost de-essed himself" god tier diss

  • @joshuabarfieldmusic
    @joshuabarfieldmusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meat and Cheese spread adds more glue to the whole mix...

  • @daboi9172
    @daboi9172 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Real talk in a video about mixing audio why is his voice so much louder than the singer's

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if I told you your quarter note delay was an eighth and not a quarter haha

  • @lubbenz
    @lubbenz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    hahaha gotta love the people screaming autotune who apparently don‘t know what this dude is capable of, check out some live vids.

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ive seen plenty of live slaves videos AND i saw them live earlier this year, he was underwhelming at best.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Laihoistheman ???????? Dogg hahaha well like any artist he has his nights where he's off but try some live videos of him with dgd or emerosa and u have to watch alot of the slaves performances to find the absolute gems

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tyken144 fair enough, it was just the like dozen videos I saw plus seeing them live.

  • @pattygq
    @pattygq ปีที่แล้ว

    9:40 That wurble shouldn't be there. When he says, "never leave". Super pronounced on the word, "leave". It's like an auto tune wurble. It's present before he begins this video. You can here this at 3:09 - 3:10.

  • @windhambass
    @windhambass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Erik Ron?? He's got two first names.....

  • @horrortoy1625
    @horrortoy1625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👀

  • @tableauxofficial7895
    @tableauxofficial7895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sadly his voice isnt stronger than his addiction. How many bands kicked him out now?

  • @Frozirra
    @Frozirra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Daily reminder that Jonny Craig did nothing wrong

    • @spontaneousbootay
      @spontaneousbootay ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, he did, but he apologized and tried to make things right with everyone that he could.

  • @vicesquadpunk
    @vicesquadpunk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you please explain why the lead vocal sounds autotuned? I appreciate wanting passion and intimacy but taking away the humanity from performance destroys that intent. Steve Perry had this in spades and had so much power and feel ✌🏻 x

    • @makrogiannisantonis1602
      @makrogiannisantonis1602 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah,I think autotune here is too obvious, epsecially at the end of the phrases.it sounds like a fake vibrato

    • @TheConvectuoso
      @TheConvectuoso 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It’s a classic side effect on breaths when using melodyne or auto tune.
      But bear in mind almost everything you listen to these days has some of tuning.
      People only call auto tune out when they hear the side effects. And in the full mix it will never be as noticeable as in solo like it is now.
      FWIW I don’t like those side effects on the breaths

    • @dadmonster1019
      @dadmonster1019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Antiquated opinion. Everything gets worked on.

    • @JacobraRecords
      @JacobraRecords 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it's modern pop-ish music. That's why.

    • @solarnewborn
      @solarnewborn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm amazed how people are still surprised that they pitch correct vocalists in the studio when it's been an industry standard for almost 2 decades. The dude's a great singer, pitch correction or not. Tho I'd personally go for a slower, more natural retune speed.

  • @dounia4207
    @dounia4207 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "i like to squash vocals"
    we stan.

  • @maxawitt
    @maxawitt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is it just me or is this vocal wayyy too compressed. You compressed it on the way in and then 10db in pro tools? The engineer even thought the vocal sounded like it had a blanket over it. That’s because it’s squashed and has no dynamics. Reverb is for placing something in the mix not to make words in the song more audible/understandable. That’s what the an EQ boost at 2.5k is for and saturation.

  • @DeathShark00
    @DeathShark00 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ive never listened to johnny outside of DGD and his solo stuff.. first time hearing him in slaves. i love johnny but ima have to pass on looking into slaves..that autotune kills it for me.. i know hes capable of not needing it.

    • @barelyshiftin
      @barelyshiftin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you ever listen to Emarosa when he was in it? They made some amazing music when he was with them. I think my favorite of him is still DGD though, and I really like DGD now with Tilian. But you definitely should give Emarosa, his solo stuff, and Slaves a chance.

    • @ohjesusitsnathan5649
      @ohjesusitsnathan5649 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer his work with emarosa, his DGD stuff comes at a close 2nd for me tho

    • @ParabolH
      @ParabolH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emarosa Relativity album is killer

    • @willkearney5716
      @willkearney5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Literally every band uses autotune- its called Melodyne and is mostly used to touch up a voice, not to change pitch in a drastic way

    • @GetxFreaky
      @GetxFreaky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont think thats autotune my guy. its probably the jaw movement he has when doing vocal runs which is really the only time you hear what youre probably mistaking for autotune.

  • @fackya2267
    @fackya2267 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i dont like this guy mixes honestly

  • @zarinkai2927
    @zarinkai2927 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stopped liking Johnny the moment he left DGD.

    • @kameron2136
      @kameron2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Missing out on the Emarosa Release then, and Isles and Glaciers

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Doesn't Emarosa have a different singer now? Jonny isn't singing for them right?

    • @mexichicana
      @mexichicana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael c yeah emarosa’s singer is now Bradley Walden!

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mexichicana I haven't listened to their new stuff but I knew johnny stopped singing for them awhile ago