Mafia Memories - Henry Hill Revistied
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- An interview with Henry Hill, former Mafia associate and FBI informant. Mr. Hill was the inspiration for the book "Wiseguy" (authored by Nicholas Pileggi), and the 1990 Martin Scorsese film "Goodfellas". He was portrayed in that film by Ray Liotta.
I'm glad the interviewer asked Henry Hill about certain events in the movie , because i seen the movie over a 100 times and i always wondered about certain things rather they were true or not , good interview .
I personally feel Henry Hill did what he had to do 'there's no honor among thieves" it was either him or them , like he said he had to protect his family .
no wonder Hill could never stay sober right til the end... carrying all those demons around with him.
William Sauer - you hit the nail on the head here.
I mean he was getting high on his own supply. He was exposed to it because of his coke ring so it was inevitable
@@TheEpicProjects300K he said in a different interview that he did do coke but he was actually selling heroin, they changed it to coke for the movie for some reason.
@@TheEpicProjects300K The getting high and being drunk came after he flipped sides.
He is on heroin in this video, eyes are fluttering
Chilling bit, during one of Henry's later Howard Stern appearances -- possibly the "caramel macchiato" one -- where he sorta broke down, crying, sitting on the concrete steps outside the building, incoherently rambling about "all the people he'd killed" and how he couldn't ever get clean from that -- certainly seemed like several of the murders he'd previously attributed to others (like Jimmy or Tommy) were his own, whether solo or team operations. A disturbing bit of booze-fueled truth.
I cant find it where can i find it
@@temueraclones Two bits -- first one gives general history -- th-cam.com/video/x3G8-fQfFCw/w-d-xo.html -- second one, days after his death -- th-cam.com/video/ubXopk8ifY4/w-d-xo.html around 5 minute mark.
Its easy to point the finger at someone and make vile remarks ! However none of us on the outside can ever know what its really like to live that guys life! That was an interesting interview for sure.....
I agree with you 100% and I’ll tell you this if any of us were in the same spot we would flip too. I’m former law-enforcement and I know all the tactics
@@richardanderson8135 Absolutely Richard 💯
I drank a beer with him at San Manuel casino! Poor guy was an emotional wreck!
"poor guy"??!! WTF are you on bro??! He's a con and a killer, he'd stick a shank up your nose if he thought he could score something. Get real!
All you fuckers who think Henry's a reluctant con have NEVER spent a single minute around these guys. I have PLENTY of years, you dumb fucks need to grow the fuck up.
~'()'~
@@bronzesnake7004 You might be forgetting one thing. He wanted out by running Robert's lounge but there were wiseguys everywhere. It was also when Jimmy and Tommy whacked Billy Batts that he was actually disgusted and wanted out, but you know the circumstances around that murder (how he was a made guy and they didn't have a sit down)
@@TheEpicProjects300K Hey Nick
Look, have you spent any time around "wise guys"? They can be the most awesome, lovable, funny great guys you ever met! I had family in this world!
They get in for a couple of reasons - some are born into it, most want in because they love the lifestyle and they're greedy!
They murder their own family!! Not for "honor" that is pure bulshit! The guys at the top order murders when they think they're own asses are either getting cheated by the underlings, or they fear getting pinched!
And the guys doing the murders don't do it for "honor" they do it because they know if they don't it's their turn! Do you know how many wise guys have murdered they own brothers? Fathers? It's FEAR!! That's why a brother will murder his own brother or father, FEAR!!
That's why a made guy or associate like Henry wants out, not because he's horrified by the violence, the life is start to end violence! If he didn't like violence why did he get in?
He wanted out when he realised he was on the chopping block!
My original post here was in response to the dope who said Henry wasn't drunk or high in this interview, he was tired...for fuck sakes! LOL!!
Then this guy says he had a drink with Henry and "he was a wreck, the POOR guy" WTF!??
It makes me laugh when ignorant dummies feel sorry for people like Henry Hill!! Henry laughed at stupidity like that! and so do I!
That's all I'm saying here Nick. Don't be gullible, wise guys are nobody's "friend" they're not "nice guys" they'll take your life if they think they can get a few bucks out of it, or if they're told to do it.
Do you think one of those guys would think "oh poor guy" when they stick a meat skewer in the back of his head?
Come on.
Take care Nick
Jack
@@bronzesnake7004 I appreciate the insight. Everyone gets entertained by the suits and the glamour but I learn a lot from interviews with guys like Henry and Michael Franzese. For sure, if there's one thing I've learnt from Scorsese's works is that you just can't trust anyone. Like you said (and Goodfellas is by far the best example), they're your friend one minute and the next they'll whack you
Bronzesnake are you trying t say you’ve spent a lot of time around the mob 😂😂 fuck off you keyboard warrior 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This particular interview was videotaped in Baltimore, Maryland in July of 2009.
Please note that I have just posted the first interview which was done in November of 2008. This interview was titled "Wiseguy: An Evening With Henry Hill.".
May his memory be eternal!
Rest in peace, Henry
" We were goodfellas...wiseguys "
He never got over not being a wiseguy anymore
Can't get enough of Henry Hill, what a fucking guy. I never heard him mention Sammy The Bull Gravano? Wonder what he thought of Sammy huh?
And we are still here
I have the book Wiseguy that Godfellas is based on and Goodfellas was a great movie but when you read the book it makes Goodfellas look like a Sunday morning cartoon and the Billy batts scene was condensed to one event but it happened quite different.
rest in peace
@dream eu let he who hath not sinned cast the 1st stone. Its all pretty sad
He is just as a psychopath as the other ones... "I don't lose sleep over digging up Bats" wtf
I mean bats probably was a psychopath himself you never know but I see what ur saying
He said it still bothers him.
well to go along with what Albert said ya gotta realize how long ago that was n how much sleep he's had to lose getting to this point
Love ya. Philadelphia USA
Many factors contributed to Henry's addictions... Ratting on his friends and being labeled a rat, horrible relationship with his kids caused him to feel like a failure as a father, and the deaths and murders he witnessed in his former life... Those feelings of self loathing will drive many people to self destructive behavior... Also doing drugs is fun... Henry was a wild guy... He liked getting loaded and having a good time... There is a reason they tell you to never try heroin and cocaine... It is opening pandora's box.
Who actually was 'Spider'? I read somewhere that the character of spider was another up coming member of another crime family who was supposed to be promoted ahead of tommy. One of the reasons for tommy being killed was not only because of the billy bracks killing, but because spider was a member of another crime family. I dont know if thats true or not.
Henry Hill was on a talk show one of spiders sisters phoned up an asked him crying where was his body he wouldn't say
As far as the guy spider he was a bartender he did tell Tommy to go "F" himself Two Gun Tommy shot him three times in the chest the body was never recovered.. Jimmy Burke ordered the hit on Tommy DeSimone. Because of the Lufthansa Heist and alot of other things plus Billy Batts murder when they opened the trunk Tommy beat him with the shovel and Henry Hill beat him with a tire iron.. Tommy DeSimone was shot and killed he was 28 years old in Jimmy Burke's basement in Ozone Park from there they took him to Philadelphia and put him in a car crusher that went to the Philadelphia steel mill the cars and Tommy were melted down at the steel mill that's why his body was never recovered.. Henry Hill his father used to beat the crap out of him when he was down kicked him & broke his ribs on the show he portrayed himself as a cocaine dealer and did the drug all the time it was actually heroin not cocaine..When he was in jail I heard that Paul Vario his boss slept with Karen Hill she said he was hung like a horse and Tony DeSimone also tried to have sex with Karen not sure if that happened..Tommy was like 6'3 230lbs.. he lived in a crappy apartment with his wife where he had a heavy bag weights he drank a gallon of milk a day very short-tempered smile in your face and then turn around if you did something wrong and shoot you dead..As a kid he love collected pocket knives he kept them in a cigar box underneath his bed that was his hobby when he was little.. I believe Tommy wife's nickname was Cookie..
The movie was called the Sinatra Club...not the Social Club...!!!!
HENWRY! HENWRY! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HENWRY!
R.i.p Henry Hill💯
Henry Hill was a lowlife and a liar. His stories about how he lived in the and quit the Mob are full of inconsistency. I think Wiseguy was right on the money but when he was telling stories in the book Gangsters and Goodfellas most of it didn't match up. Also this guy was a sexual deviant. But he was a great cook!! Have his cookbook!!!
RIP Mr Hill.
I think he has a good soul....If the good that he did out weighed the bad on he day he died by .00000001 a mcg. I hope the good Lord let him in.... or he would just smooth talk St. Peter
Grass on the Hill .
When he was in good standing with his mob associates, hurting others was both a source of income and amusement; when he fell out of favor, he made a deal with the government. In brief, a scumbag. Karen might have been a target due to her complicity, but I doubt the kids would have been harmed.
Vario was having an affair with her and Tommy tried to rape her. Jimmy was setting him up to be killed . He Didn’t really have much choice .
You know what, Henry is actually one of the few who has been honest about the Mafia.
He is honestly a rat too. I would end him with my bare hands irl
It's well known he exaggerated on many stories!
Henry says in this interview that he never whacked anybody. However, on the Howard Stern show he admitted that he killed 3 people.
Henry was high as two Georgia pine tress here man and in most places...check out the stern stuff. He was drunk as shit all the time.
his stories are lies
I believe him when he said he would have shot himself before turning informant but when you talk about killing your kids and wife then all bets are off.
Yeah what a rat... *back to call of duty* ...."hey mom can you bring me a sammich?"
You're a fkn idiot
Haha! Best comment 👌
Thats better than being an informant he got 50 people locked up
😂😂😂😂
@@KevinM88TR11 50 criminals
Henry is not drunk or high here. He's tired of telling this story. Just imagine how many times he had to tell this story
+Austin McMahon Oh yeah , but given his tolerance from over use it likely had no effect on his grasp of the facts .
Henry proved the old Capo Regimes right about one thing . The junk was bad for the mob in the end . And junkies do not care about Omerta ( sp. not in the last familiar with Italian grammar )
probably popped a few oxys plus the beer.....
Hes tired and that cough hes still a smoker doesnt help
Anthony Capone
I've seen dozens of interviews w him He's been tired of telling the story for awhile. Hes drunk or buzzed here. It's probably mixture of being tired and alcohol.
Stoned/drunk or not, Henry was still very articulate and perceptive.
I think what Jimmy did was worse than what Henry did. He started killing his friends to protect himself. All Henry did was testify. “You dont rat on your friends” but you can kill them? Its a world of contradiction
It's the name of the game kill or be killed they got killed because they were buying expensive things and bringing heat on the crew. I understand you don't get it but it just the way it has to be
They go on about the code but they whack each other at the drop of a hat, either that or you end up doing heavy jail time or you become an informer and spend your life watching your back !! sounds great.
That’s the life. Sounds fun right? Plain and simple, just don’t do it. It’s a very slippery slope.
I've come to realise when you can make a living from simply telling your own life story it's usually because you survived things you shouldn't have, ironically though, it's also those same things that kill you in the end in one way or another.
Very profound and poignant observation.
Say what you will about him but he’s a fascinating storyteller and story’s he has.
(Rip) Henry Hill..Brilliant storyteller & writer..
I know imagine if they made a movie about his life in the mob
I met Henry Hill in California years ago . This guy really got around , lol .
He use to hang around a motel in Santa Monica. At night he would hit up McArthur Park to make some scores. At times he would be at Santa Anita Race Track
He is a fountain of awesome stories.
Not really, man...I do think it's compelling, but those guys were lunatic animalistic murderers. I wouldn't wish that life on anyone.
The Feds thought the exact same thing.
My dad and I did his security when he was in town for this and yeah he might of been a little fucked up.amazing time though.got vip room with him in the hussler.manager said everything was on the house.got a few dances from a stripper and she tells me I owe her a couple hundred....told Henry and he told me not to give her a dime lol
So glad you did these interviews before he died. Henry was really a fascinating guy with a crazy life. RIP
Nothing fascinating about a rat coward just tryna save his own as bu using that he's doing it for his family blah blah
Tú hubieras sido muy valiente???? Quizás la rata eres tú!!! Estoy seguro que si..
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@inyourgranmaass3605 okay there cream cakes.
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"Fascinating guy", more like lying rat fuck.
GOD BLESS you henry thank you for your real life history
I would love to spend an evening cooking with Henry. Lobster Diablo. Then sunday gravy. R.I.P. Henry. A very flawed but lovable person.
Damn he's fighting to keep his eyes open lol
That’s called opiates
Stfu yo
hasnt he done coke? people say youre never really yourself again after.
A good lesson for us all. God kept Henry alive to teach and show us all how evil can ruin us.
Bollocks,
Yeah that makes sense 😂😂😂
Henry kept himself alive by ratting.
If you watch his Howard stern interview he said he has killed 3-4 people. But he was super drunk saying that. But on here he said he never wacked anyone? On howard stern he went into detail on 3 people. First 2 people he shot in the back of the head and the 3rd person he used the Ice pick. (Like in the movie). So im confused. We know for a fact his information got 50 people convicted and some bodies recovered so there must have been some truth but im really questioning the movie now. I watched the Irishman and it got me into my Mob movie binge so i been revisiting all the old movies and googling around. I really hope Henry didn't lie about stuff. It's hard to say what is truth and want isn't with him.
met this guy was a nice guy don't condone what he did but respect him for saving his family by giving up the mob
Ra Eye nah cause if Henry "disappeared" his wife would go to the cops and say what she knew, then go into witness protection. They would've got rid of his family.
Ra Eye if they killed the man she loved she would talk. Anyone would.
Just to comfirm.. i have done much research into this person over the past 7 years.. watched all the documentaries interviews and read all the books.. also had the pleasure to meet martin scorsase the director of goodfellas. Henry Hill did admit that he DID Kill 3 people in his life in the mafia.just the movie never made him out to be a killer.. in fact the movie actually was like a disney film compared to what it was really like.
I dont think Henry ever pulled the trigger himself.
I worry about you Henry. You may fold under questioning
thats a funny comment
Funny how? 🤨
@@allanabs7 just the way he wrote the comment.....what?
It was a goodfellas joke man 😂😂 pesci and his legendary funny how scene
@@allanabs7 oh hahahahahaha almost got me there :D, l may fold aslo
The look in his eyes is revealing. His past troubled him deeply.
@Christine Carr not true at all. Its fairly obvious hes bothered by his past.
@Christine Carr sociopaths act very differently. You can do terrible things and not be a sociopath. Tommy may have been.
He's just hopped up.
I think he is just a little drunk lol
God bless your soul Henry!!! I miss you my friend
How come Henry Hill videos are always filled with internet mobsters commenting "FUCKING RAT" in the comments?
***** They were actually pissed off at Henry for making a good decision? The thing that's even more ridiculous is that these people were pissed off and giving death threats because of something that never even happened in their personal life and shouldn't even be bothering them.
I swear, the Internet is full of dumbfucks.
***** I actually looked it up just now. They were old emails posted by a bunch of keyboard gangsters who claimed they have connections to the real mobsters who Henry was friends with. But true, most of them seemed like trolls though. These emails are pretty old too, they were all posted in 2001.
***** Did he ever reply to any of them?
***** Yeah, I'm aware he died. Good thing Henry and his friend were smart enough to know these guys were trolls.
But it seems very different in these TH-cam comment sections. People here on YT go to Henry Hill videos, actually thinking they're internet mobsters and insulting him and threatening him - yet they're unaware that Henry has been dead for the past 4 years. LOL idiots.
***** True.
I love his stories. My friend met him and got his autograph in 2007 in Manhattan.
FABRICATED REALITY How much for an autograph from Henry?
How much did he have to pay for it? 😂
I think all these "rat bastard" comments are hilarious. Why wouldn't you try to save your life and the life of your family? Reporting a crime would be the right thing to do in the first place. People that spend their life stealing and murdering say that people that tell on them are doing something morally wrong....how absurd.
This interview shows much less energy than ones from about 4 or 5 years earlier. Henry was not feeling well. I don't think it was interview fatique as he continued to accept interviews for the money.......when he easily could have declined them. Notice the lack of bravado and the over-use of the "F" bomb in this interview. The one in 2007-2008 had the F word in every sentence at least once...more often twice.
This was recorded mid 2009
One question about the film ive never seen him been asked or heard him answer is the bit where his wife wakes him up with the gun in his face
Henry's probably right, he saved many lives.
He never had the making's of a varsity athlete
Veal Parmesan sandwich, fuck you!
Wrong mob story/family.
Good interview! I never get tired of Henry’s stories. He was sought after till the end.😊
Henry's wife knew how to survive ..by giving up the 😸to the right gangsters.
in the Howard Stern interview he admits to killing 3 people-that and flipping certainly did a number on his mind
he said he listened every day so i guess he respected him enough as an interviewer to finally spill da beans
I am sure Henry's drug and alcohol issues where stemmed with dealing with the life he lived. I am sure he loved Karen very much but he cheated on her and tore her heart out. His children were angry with him and many wanted him dead. Not an easy life to deal with....
shair00 agreed! That and greed. He was too busy trying to please the crew and his habit, rather than take care of his family...
When it comes to drugs, it doesn’t matter if you’re in the mafia or not, you will start to live for your habit.
shair00 Karen actually was banging big pauly. She was no angel.
paul may I have heard that too!! Shame.
She was sleeping with Paulie what are you on about
He was Hard on drugs before je snitched
check out the key board warriors and arm chair experts
on here
salokin G he’s no a keyboard warrior anyway 😂 he’s fucking right the majority of the people in the comments are acting like they are in or were in the mob 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
One of the realist gangster interviews there is period
I feel sorry for Henry. He's seen these gangsters do some pretty brutal and gruesome things to people. I mean Jimmy Burke used to lock up people's kids in refrigerators and drop them in the ocean. All because the victim's parents couldn't pay back a loan. He witnessed a made man of the Gambino Family get beaten to death. Then he escaped the mob, got his family out safe. Only to have relive it all because some asshole's curiosity about the mob. It's no wonder he became an alcoholic. Drunk is probably the way he could these stories.
Henry prob had more involvement in the billy batts murder than he let on I very much doubt he just stood there and watched
If he had more to do with it Burke would not have wanted a button on him. The drugs were one thing. Burke has distance from the drugs. And he stood before Paulie trying to make it like he wasnt in it.
Kinda hard to stay interested with an interview that he has to shape himself. He is supposed to be the subject and this interviewer did none of the critical thinking.
I hope Henry knew that men who could never last a week in his shoes during his era with the Lucchese family are judging him but are secretly loving the information he put out. It's like they resent him for giving them the stories that they love. I don't understand it. RIP Henry and thanks!
I kinda question the mafia ability to let this guy stager around all that time and not even trying to hide
Henry looks slung back a bit..probably had a few oxy but at least he is making sense and talking coherently...its the ones where he is drunk that are useless.
Please stop calling this man a rat he is dead now . and what do you people know about living in their world please .
He was proud to be a rat. Called himself a rat. Learn something
Mr Hitler did you get that from his Howard stern interview
Same guys who'd rat on erbody over a 8ball 😆
A rat is the lowest scum there is... Butt all these guys had shelf life's after that their a liability. All they have is death or prison too look for, flipping is the only way out of all that...
The crew who Henry belonged to sounded like pschos. You can tell how fucked up he is just relieving it here.
What do you like Henry the leg or the wing
Nah heart and lungs
he wasnt a made guy he was a low level associate. they dont go after made guys family. there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between an associate and a solder(madeguy)
Yeah ask Fat Pete….
i love Henry hill💪💪💪😎
"I'M STILL GOIN' OUT KAREN!!"
Not without ya car keys yaa nottt
@@markyboy214 Classic
I met Henry Hill in person in Long Beach CA at the Best Western hotel lobby. It was funny because he walked inside the hotel by himself and I recognized him right away. I walked right in front of him and said Henry . He paused back and I said Henry Hill then he smiled and we had a good conversation by the hotel lobby bar. He gave me an autograph and talked about his restaurant in Santa Monica. His moms old recipes.
If I saw him I’d whack him with my bare hands he is a 🐀
@@Grandofperth me too if i am planning on digging up his grave and urinating in his face
I read his book wiseguy and its boring and doesn't give that much detail. The movie was much better and gave much more info. Which is the exact opposite of how it usually is. I've found in almost every other case the book gives a lot more detail than the movie
Also ive seen pretty much every info Henry has given and they are unwatchable. He's illeterate and inarticulate. Has a hard time communicating his thoughts or delivering a real coherent sentence
Also he goes back and forth about wether he killed people or not.
Henry was high as hell in that interview. Not tired ! I would be too ! From the life he had lived.
He was a drunk he wasn’t high
He's fucked up lol
Tired and drunk. Not high
@@rickyruddell2733 nah, if he was drunk you could tell🤣 go watch his Howard stern interview
Tied and buzzed ..
Wtf is all that backround noise? why not have the fuckin interview in grand central station ?
at least you would think they would at least have the interview away from the loud girls in the back ground .
I somewhat agree with what you said, but there are far more people (and more powerful) in the legit world making it even harder on honest hard-working people.
Rip loved the calls on the Stern show
Ok Dannie B you came through Philly again you had to come through before all the Paisons in my home town!
I think that Hill was tired of telling about the miserable life he led before he wised-up and turned on the criminals he was with.
Hes my roommates best friends daughter ex boyfriends fathers uncle that knew the lady who lived across the street that saw him at a grocery store in 1985
Henry tells it like it was/is. They are sublime including Henry.
Wow he's so high on smack in this. He can barely keep his eyes open! He did a lot of scumbag thing. He didn't kill anyone. A runner. I pray for his soul.
He said on Howard Stern he popped 3 people lol
On the show they made him look like he was selling cocaine and snorting cocaine but in real life it was heroin that's why he's probably still high really hard to get off of that that's why he drinks all the time he can't get away from the heroin..
Hes never going to admit he killed someone is he? !!! I wouldn't be surprised if he had done though. He seems charismatic but he told you himself the brutality and cruelty what really happened was too bad to put on telly. Hes been a part of that and has even got so used to extreme violence that he plays down coz nuthin too him but is horrendous to us. We have to face reality.
I bet he did kill people he is a legend and hero I wish I were him
He has admitted to killing people, he said in one interview with Stanly fisher “I killed many people I regret nothing, I am Tommy the legend now eat this” the he farted and wafted it in the direction of the interviewer
I believe him when he says they'd have killed him and his wife, but his kids too? Why? There would be no motive, and regardless of lack of honour in the mafia, no one would ever want to be associated with kid killers. Just seems like bullshit to me (the kids at least)
Are there police persons who are on criminals' pay roll..? Though their principle of conduct IS against it..?
Ray Liotta plays a better Henry Hill
i played handball with henery he never. wonthe old mill
he got those baltimore scramble caps..lol...high as a muffaga
19:50 yea bc they’ve already had em
If I was that interviewer I would of said “what about those 3 people you said you killed on the Howard stern show”
I bet Tommy would have replied “they bit the silver bullet because it am a legend among men” then he would have Tommy’d all over the interviewers faces
He killed 3 people in the Howard stern show? We’re they the audience or the producers?
These interviewers would ask him the same questions no originality in their questions its a shame too.
Wow he is a very different Henry Hill than his previous interviews, a lot harder, not as jovial
He is probably in pain on some meds.Not a joyful situation to be in.
I know folks like this, I know folks that have never had a social security card never worked a real job 9-5 and if and when they go down its usually the wife's and girlfriends 90 % of the time bring them down
Henry is heavily sedated here. Probably a good thing considering what happened to him.
Henry sure took a wrong turn at 12 years old but he really seems to have got back on the right path.
LOL no one who knew about HH would say this. he never got back on any right path tbh
Cracks me up how so many ppl ridiculed him. Meanwhile every single one of those ppl would’ve done the same thing if they knew their wife, kids, and themselves would’ve been murdered. The poor guy tried to get away from the mafia 3 different times. He couldn’t escape them. They wouldn’t leave him alone. They turned his a business into a mob hangout and buried bodies under it. What the fuck did you expect him to do? Let them murder him and his family?
He never had the makings of a varsity gangster
Uncle June busting Tony's BALLS! LMAO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He drew the line at killing somebody. But he helped people kill somebody. He covered up murders. Etc.
Rest in peace Henry.I know Henry was a bad guy but somewhere in there the guy had a heart it shows sometimes Henry is a legend thanks to wiseguys and Goodfellas.I see my own childhood in Henry’s childhood in some ways.Henry had no choice but to go into the program he was a dead man he knew it.
Stupid mobsters so pathetic all the millions they made and they could not just of grabbed Karen when she was in the room with Jimmy getting that cash. And even when he missed that opertunity he could not of offed Henry when he left The coffee shop with Jimmy. Would of saved them all im very surprised. All it would of took was two guys to grab him leaving the coffee shop and say hey Pauli wanta to talka toyoua