Interesting to see this in action but agree the BG urza’s saga cookbook list looks smoother and faster. Any changes to the BG one that you’re thinking of trying?
I think I want to heavily work on the sideboard, maybe run asmo or some type of fair thing to side in to supplement the saga plan, and some sort of secondary demon target that doesnt use the yard for counsel. In the maindeck, the Thoughtseizes felt like the least necessary card, so maybe exploring some other interaction. Maybe check out if there's any other utility lands that could fit?
I have, and at the moment, I think that the extra 3 life is probably more important usually than the pitch for black, but it's definitely an option to keep in mind
Hyped for this archetype, but this list is not polished enough. Issues getting delirium, frog looking awkward. I think this needs more rumble + grisly salvage, and maybe utopia sprawl. Don't feel like blue adds enough, but might need more testing
Yeah, I think Tainted Indulgence could have been useful, but agree that I don't think blue adds enough. I liked the cookbook straight BG variation more, and will probably jump off from that next time I try to iterate on this more. This many 2 drops made the BUG list feel clunky.
@@MinT_x33 how about Otherworldly Gaze as your one drop, helps with delirium and you can flash back instantly. I think between gaze and 4 rumbles you can hit delirium easier. Also gaze potentially give you a turn 2 win, hit a grisel in top 3 cards, then goryo's turn 2.
@@jameslambe13 That's an interesting idea, and probably something I'd try if I were to try a list like this again, I think I'm off the BUG version for a little bit at least though.
Interesting to see this in action but agree the BG urza’s saga cookbook list looks smoother and faster. Any changes to the BG one that you’re thinking of trying?
I think I want to heavily work on the sideboard, maybe run asmo or some type of fair thing to side in to supplement the saga plan, and some sort of secondary demon target that doesnt use the yard for counsel. In the maindeck, the Thoughtseizes felt like the least necessary card, so maybe exploring some other interaction. Maybe check out if there's any other utility lands that could fit?
have you thought about using Iname as One instead of the wurm? 12 mana instead of 15 but counts as a black card for soul spike
it also works with goryos lol
I have, and at the moment, I think that the extra 3 life is probably more important usually than the pitch for black, but it's definitely an option to keep in mind
Hyped for this archetype, but this list is not polished enough. Issues getting delirium, frog looking awkward. I think this needs more rumble + grisly salvage, and maybe utopia sprawl. Don't feel like blue adds enough, but might need more testing
Yeah, I think Tainted Indulgence could have been useful, but agree that I don't think blue adds enough. I liked the cookbook straight BG variation more, and will probably jump off from that next time I try to iterate on this more. This many 2 drops made the BUG list feel clunky.
@@MinT_x33 how about Otherworldly Gaze as your one drop, helps with delirium and you can flash back instantly. I think between gaze and 4 rumbles you can hit delirium easier. Also gaze potentially give you a turn 2 win, hit a grisel in top 3 cards, then goryo's turn 2.
@@jameslambe13 That's an interesting idea, and probably something I'd try if I were to try a list like this again, I think I'm off the BUG version for a little bit at least though.