I recently did carpet bags in the wash on delicate, w a towel, vinegar in the tub and in the softener compartment. Then tumbled dry w a towel on med heat for an hr and they’re ready to go…….no need to soak and wait…..2 hrs and ready to throw, still a super cheap option. Love the vids…..keep em comin
to make the bags last longer as I live down south. After i soak them I just lay them outside to air dry for 2-3 hours. And then I go throw them around. Works great.
One thing is certain, this method WORKS and is CHEAP AND EASY At B3 HQ, I got some 75% concentrated industrial vinegar and have been using a dilution of that when doing dozens of bags at once. Tap hot water in large container, add some high test vinegar, stir, add bags, soak for less than an hour, then I run a double rinse cycle in the washing Machine. After that, tumble on medium until dry. Absolutely game ready and no smell at all. Great video Mike, thanks for spotlighting this method!
Hey weren't you going to to a Full Scale Test on the many break in types?? I remember seeing post from you in Addicted Cornhole Group about it.. That's a Video I would LOVE to see!! I know 6by6 has done many types..but there is more out there and they used only one type of bag also.
This was awesome Mike! I've heard a lot about this method, but your breakdown and footage make me feel ready to finally tackle it. Having B3 endorse it here certainly doesn't hurt either. Thank you!! *Update- WOW, this worked amazingly! This will be the only method I use going forward thanks Mike!
I've done 7 sets of bags now. All great success! Everyone in my club asks about my breakin method cause I got the nicest feeling bags! Cheap and easy process that's pretty much fail safe.
I used Toss Sauce for the first time about a month ago and my bags are fading. I've heard about this method on the B3 Fan Pag. Now that I know that you use it, I'll do this instead of the toss sauce from now on.
Thanks for providing the instructions to this as I just used on corntrix bags and they came out money 💰. Did an hour of soak with one cup of vinegar and after throwing them they are just right now. Thx
I had two sets of non-carpet and two sets of carpet bags (different mfg) that had been conditioned either by mfg or via a bag mfg product that I used mike's process above with great success. It does feel like both the materials and the fills have relaxed giving a less "compacted" hand feel.
I usually just throw but decided to try this today with my new B3 Coyotes. It’s more difficult in winter to get practice/break in time and I want to be able to use them in our league asap. Worked very well.
I have recently started using this method. I personally prefer the resulting fabric feel over Ultra’s break in package and Sac Relax, which are others that I have tried. Great video Mike! Thanks!
Good to know Mike, I haven't tried this method yet. I have had success with almost boiling water only, leave soak until water is cooled and throw bags in drier on lowest heat for 1 hr. This works on bags that don't need a lot of breaking in. For bags that are super stiff, I do the same but add some Downey and once they cool down I rinse them in cold water, then toss in the dryer on lowest heat fir 1 hr. They come out smelling great and soften up pretty darn good. Careful with how much Downey you put, as Mike said there is no going back.
Great video! It is exactly what I do but I only do one set at a time so I massage the beads a bit in the warm Vin water. Taste pairs well with bread baking and house chore lol😂
morning Mike. big fan of your channel. i got a set of Crazy8 domin8tors, after 1 of your reviews. they were super stiff and almost like vinyl :) on the fast side. anyway, tried out your break in method exactly and they feel soooo much better. they are not pro snipers buttery mushy, but way better. thanks. keep it up!!
As someone who just got into cornhole, I was told toss sauce a few hundred times. I got OG. That stuff is useless. I kept trying different methods until I tried white distilled vinegar. It's definitely the best, it's similar to nuked in results but way cheaper and easier. IF i have a stubborn bag after the vinegar breakin, I'll also soak them for 20 minutes to an hour in tresume "volume" hair conditioner. But don't do that unless you have a very stubborn bag as it can go too far. If i do this, i also put the bags through the washer in garment bags for safety. The conditioner doesn't leave any residue after. Also, with the vinegar, the smell rinses out in like ten seconds. Don't ever let someone tell you it doesn't. They just want to scare you into buying a product that is literally like $450 a gallon lol.
Great video Mike. I personally have been using 3/4 cup vinegar with a 1/4-1/2 cup of wrinkleguard depending on how scratchy or stiff the fabric is. Wrinkleguard makes all fabrics feel a little softer in hand which I prefer. A good example is a Costello which feels scratchy new. I never use a dryer anymore as carpets were coming out fuzzy. I use shami cloths to get most of the water out and let them air dry suspended on a cookie rack works great but takes more time. My two cents. Keep up the great work!
I don't mind when the carpet gets fuzzy. Fuzzy carpet plays slower and I prefer slower carpet. I've heard others mention the wrinkle guard but I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a try sometime. Thanks for sharing.
I took a rubber mallet to the seems at 40min and took the mallet back out to focus the corners at 1h. Wanted to make sure my Marilyn's took the shape I want(beauty is pain). Got the idea from an ultra breakin video.
When you use wrinkle guard measurements do you still soak the bags for 1 hour or two? And do you cycle rinse in the washer after or hand wash before the dryer? Thanks!
@@xPRxMEx I still did the the hr or hr and a half depending on the materials of the bag. If you do the tablespoon of wrinkle guard I would hand wash with dawn.
@@mikec71 oh man I been using way more wrinkle guard than I should! I been doing the cup vinegar and water. But on the wrinkle guard if the cap has 1 and 2 I been using enough to fill the 1st line. But y’all are using a tablespoon I been over doing it 🫣😅
Great video so question I tried and used half a cup before I saw your video.... you say not to over breaking in. So should I try using whole cup and try again or go with half cup again.... Thank you
I've been using cheap hair conditioner soak for around 3-6 hours and then rinse thoroughly and low heat in the dryer for an hour. I've used this on 20 sets of bags and they all turned out great. Have you tried this method yet?
I have tried hair condition a few times. I didn't like the way they felt afterwards. For some reason, whenever I use condition, I feel like I can't get it all to rinse out. The bags are nice and broke in but they feel different to me. I know a lot people that use conditioner and love it.
Hey Mike, thanks so much for all of your videos! This is probably an annoying question, but how much water do you think youre using in your sink (cup-wise)? The sink I use is on the larger side and just looking for a more exact ratio of water to vinegar.
I just used this process on my new buffalo sauce bags. The bags broke in perfectly after! But, two days after throwing, two out four bags are busting at the seams. Did you do something different with your sauce bags?
This process won't cause the seams to bust open. In fact most break in methods won't cause seams to bust open. The fast side material is known for stretching. Without seeing the bags, I can't say whether it's the seams busting or the material stretching. Buffalo added a liner behind the fast side material to prevent the bags from busting open. The first run of bags they released did bust open and they recalled those. Have you reached out to Buffalo yet?
The carpet side near the seams is stretching too much is probably a better way of explaining. I did reach out to buffalo and they said that the sauce carpet is more delicate than other bags and that they do not recommend washer to dryer break in process on the sauce. They are sending me another set and I bought the bag butter, so hopefully it will go better this time.
I'm glad to hear that Buffalo is taking care of it. They have great customer service. I've never had an issue with that carpet and I put every set I get in the dryer. It was probably just a bad section of material.
Have now done 8 sets of bags with wdv. Most recently Viper R, Psycho R and Widow R. The Viper R came out perfect-1hr soak in 1.5 cups wdv in a gallon of water. The Psycho Rs were still a little stiff after the same and the Widow Rs were good not perfect. At this point I’ll probably re-soak the paychos and let the widows “play in” they’re so close I don’t want to “overcook” them. I can tell you that you can “overcook” them with wdv, I did a set of slide rites (backyard party bags) with 2 cups/gallon for 2hrs and the fabric side is like mush.
Ok, well I unknowingly overcooked the widow R’s for the league boards that I play on. They are really nice and soft and feel great in my hand but the carpet is soooo slooow now I can’t get them up the board. On my boards they’re fine. I think going forward I’ll probably use wdv with shorter multiple soaks
Works GREAT brah-brah! Waiting on my AAR "Rippers" to do this method once again!(one cup vinegar 2 hours soak in HOT water in a ice chest!!!! Helps beat the bags up a little more!(Tumble dry no heat...add 5+tennis balls and a couple pillows too!) 🌽🕳💯🤙🏼☯️
I don't have a before picture but I can post an after one. For me, the break in is more about how the bag feels. It's impossible to convey that through a video. I wish there was some way to measure break in.
Did you use this technique on the Swag Bag KaBooms and Chaos you reviewed? If so water to vinegar ratio did you use? Thank you in advance dig your channel.
I either used vinegar or Toss Sauce on those bags. I can't remember. When I use Vinegar, I typically use one cup to a sink full of water. I'm guessing my sink holds 1 - 1 1/2 gallons of water. I've never measured it.
Has anyone ever tried this method twice on the same set of bags? Have a pair of fire assaults and not floppy enough after 1 hr soak in wdv, but don't want to risk ruining materials
You know I see this all over the place I know Vinegar is a natural softener..But there is one thing you do as with Toss Sause that always gets me and I question it...The Dryer..let on high heat or low... I always asked, has anyone ever soak their bags in hot water, not boil water, hot tap water for an hour and then put them in the dryer to see how they came out???
Yes, I have. I bought 2 sets of bags and I compared 7 different break in methods. The 8th bag was a control bag where I soaked it in hot water for an hour and then tumbled in dryer on low heat for an hour. I had planned to make a video of this process and share my results. I was not satisfied with how the video turned out so I never published it. There was a noticeable difference in this bag compared to all the other bags that had some sort of product used on them. The control bag was not close to being broke in. The products make a huge difference in speeding up the break in process. I plan to do more videos like this using other products. There will be one video where I go over not using any products and how to break the bags in that way.
No they do not. I was skeptical the first time I used it because there is a strong vinegar smell while the bags are soaking. Once you rinse them out, the smell is gone. Just make sure you use white distilled vinegar.
I recently did carpet bags in the wash on delicate, w a towel, vinegar in the tub and in the softener compartment. Then tumbled dry w a towel on med heat for an hr and they’re ready to go…….no need to soak and wait…..2 hrs and ready to throw, still a super cheap option. Love the vids…..keep em comin
I’ve used this break in method on 6 sets of bags now, very happy with the results.
to make the bags last longer as I live down south. After i soak them I just lay them outside to air dry for 2-3 hours. And then I go throw them around. Works great.
Thank you for the video. I did this and my bags feel and play so much better. Appreciate all of your knowledge for the game.
One thing is certain, this method WORKS and is CHEAP AND EASY
At B3 HQ, I got some 75% concentrated industrial vinegar and have been using a dilution of that when doing dozens of bags at once. Tap hot water in large container, add some high test vinegar, stir, add bags, soak for less than an hour, then I run a double rinse cycle in the washing Machine. After that, tumble on medium until dry. Absolutely game ready and no smell at all.
Great video Mike, thanks for spotlighting this method!
Hey weren't you going to to a Full Scale Test on the many break in types?? I remember seeing post from you in Addicted Cornhole Group about it.. That's a Video I would LOVE to see!! I know 6by6 has done many types..but there is more out there and they used only one type of bag also.
What’s the water to vinegar ratio using 75% industrial?
This was awesome Mike! I've heard a lot about this method, but your breakdown and footage make me feel ready to finally tackle it. Having B3 endorse it here certainly doesn't hurt either. Thank you!!
*Update- WOW, this worked amazingly! This will be the only method I use going forward thanks Mike!
I've done 7 sets of bags now. All great success! Everyone in my club asks about my breakin method cause I got the nicest feeling bags! Cheap and easy process that's pretty much fail safe.
thanks. all slides 2.0 broke in perfect with this method.
Very interesting! Good to know! I learn something new on every video thanks Mike!
I used Toss Sauce for the first time about a month ago and my bags are fading. I've heard about this method on the B3 Fan Pag. Now that I know that you use it, I'll do this instead of the toss sauce from now on.
Thanks for providing the instructions to this as I just used on corntrix bags and they came out money 💰. Did an hour of soak with one cup of vinegar and after throwing them they are just right now. Thx
Awesome! I'm glad to hear it worked for you. I love this method for breaking in bags.
I had two sets of non-carpet and two sets of carpet bags (different mfg) that had been conditioned either by mfg or via a bag mfg product that I used mike's process above with great success. It does feel like both the materials and the fills have relaxed giving a less "compacted" hand feel.
I usually just throw but decided to try this today with my new B3 Coyotes. It’s more difficult in winter to get practice/break in time and I want to be able to use them in our league asap. Worked very well.
Im getting my B3 Coyotes tomorrow, if you dont mind me asking how much vinegar did you use to amount of water? same as the video?
@@vangjohnny08 I did 3/4 cup dont remember how much water. I also was light on the dryer/heat.
@@brandenpro thank you
I have recently started using this method. I personally prefer the resulting fabric feel over Ultra’s break in package and Sac Relax, which are others that I have tried.
Great video Mike! Thanks!
Good to know Mike, I haven't tried this method yet. I have had success with almost boiling water only, leave soak until water is cooled and throw bags in drier on lowest heat for 1 hr. This works on bags that don't need a lot of breaking in.
For bags that are super stiff, I do the same but add some Downey and once they cool down I rinse them in cold water, then toss in the dryer on lowest heat fir 1 hr. They come out smelling great and soften up pretty darn good. Careful with how much Downey you put, as Mike said there is no going back.
Great video! It is exactly what I do but I only do one set at a time so I massage the beads a bit in the warm Vin water. Taste pairs well with bread baking and house chore lol😂
Thanks Mike, I'll have to try this.
morning Mike. big fan of your channel. i got a set of Crazy8 domin8tors, after 1 of your reviews. they were super stiff and almost like vinyl :) on the fast side. anyway, tried out your break in method exactly and they feel soooo much better. they are not pro snipers buttery mushy, but way better. thanks. keep it up!!
I'm going to try this with my new Cornographix Airmails and my Razor Bags Knuckle td! wish me luck Mike :)
As someone who just got into cornhole, I was told toss sauce a few hundred times. I got OG. That stuff is useless. I kept trying different methods until I tried white distilled vinegar. It's definitely the best, it's similar to nuked in results but way cheaper and easier.
IF i have a stubborn bag after the vinegar breakin, I'll also soak them for 20 minutes to an hour in tresume "volume" hair conditioner. But don't do that unless you have a very stubborn bag as it can go too far. If i do this, i also put the bags through the washer in garment bags for safety. The conditioner doesn't leave any residue after.
Also, with the vinegar, the smell rinses out in like ten seconds. Don't ever let someone tell you it doesn't. They just want to scare you into buying a product that is literally like $450 a gallon lol.
Great video Mike. I personally have been using 3/4 cup vinegar with a 1/4-1/2 cup of wrinkleguard depending on how scratchy or stiff the fabric is. Wrinkleguard makes all fabrics feel a little softer in hand which I prefer. A good example is a Costello which feels scratchy new. I never use a dryer anymore as carpets were coming out fuzzy. I use shami cloths to get most of the water out and let them air dry suspended on a cookie rack works great but takes more time. My two cents. Keep up the great work!
I don't mind when the carpet gets fuzzy. Fuzzy carpet plays slower and I prefer slower carpet. I've heard others mention the wrinkle guard but I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a try sometime. Thanks for sharing.
How long do you leave in water for until you take them out ?
I took a rubber mallet to the seems at 40min and took the mallet back out to focus the corners at 1h. Wanted to make sure my Marilyn's took the shape I want(beauty is pain). Got the idea from an ultra breakin video.
Vinegar soak everytime. With some stiffer carpet bags I use hair conditioner around the closing stitch and along the seams with great results.
Never broke in bags using vinegar. Will have to give it a try.
I usually use 1 cup of vinegar and 1 tablespoon of wrinkle guard and my bags turn out really well with this process.
I have heard of others that add a little wrinkle guard also. I'll have to try that sometime.
I just did this with a set of pro snipers. I will be doing this with any new bag I get. Keep up the good work Mike.
When you use wrinkle guard measurements do you still soak the bags for 1 hour or two? And do you cycle rinse in the washer after or hand wash before the dryer? Thanks!
@@xPRxMEx I still did the the hr or hr and a half depending on the materials of the bag. If you do the tablespoon of wrinkle guard I would hand wash with dawn.
@@mikec71 oh man I been using way more wrinkle guard than I should! I been doing the cup vinegar and water. But on the wrinkle guard if the cap has 1 and 2 I been using enough to fill the 1st line. But y’all are using a tablespoon I been over doing it 🫣😅
Mike I just got some brand new pro snipers this would work on them right ?
Yes
What's the process/settings for putting bags in the dryer?
Add a towel or two to ensure the bags tumble and not just spin with the dryer. Use low or no heat until they are dry.
Great video so question I tried and used half a cup before I saw your video.... you say not to over breaking in. So should I try using whole cup and try again or go with half cup again.... Thank you
If the bags are not broke in enough, I would recommend trying again with a cup and 1 hour soak.
Thank you
Thanks for this.
Does this work well with herringbone carpet or is Toss Sauce better?
Both will work on the herringbone carpet.
@@MikesBags Thanks. I might try out the vinegar.
Would you do that to typhoos
Works great! Thank you
Does this method work on buffalo nomads I had them for about 7 months n clean n tried the washer machine method n my bags still stiff
Yes, this will work on all bags.
Thanks Mike 2 sets soaking now. Dumb question :Can i dry two sets in dryer at same time.
Yes
I've been using cheap hair conditioner soak for around 3-6 hours and then rinse thoroughly and low heat in the dryer for an hour. I've used this on 20 sets of bags and they all turned out great. Have you tried this method yet?
I have tried hair condition a few times. I didn't like the way they felt afterwards. For some reason, whenever I use condition, I feel like I can't get it all to rinse out. The bags are nice and broke in but they feel different to me. I know a lot people that use conditioner and love it.
Hey Mike, thanks so much for all of your videos!
This is probably an annoying question, but how much water do you think youre using in your sink (cup-wise)? The sink I use is on the larger side and just looking for a more exact ratio of water to vinegar.
I use about 18-20 cups of water.
@@MikesBags Thanks so much!
I just used this process on my new buffalo sauce bags. The bags broke in perfectly after! But, two days after throwing, two out four bags are busting at the seams. Did you do something different with your sauce bags?
This process won't cause the seams to bust open. In fact most break in methods won't cause seams to bust open. The fast side material is known for stretching. Without seeing the bags, I can't say whether it's the seams busting or the material stretching. Buffalo added a liner behind the fast side material to prevent the bags from busting open. The first run of bags they released did bust open and they recalled those. Have you reached out to Buffalo yet?
The carpet side near the seams is stretching too much is probably a better way of explaining. I did reach out to buffalo and they said that the sauce carpet is more delicate than other bags and that they do not recommend washer to dryer break in process on the sauce. They are sending me another set and I bought the bag butter, so hopefully it will go better this time.
I'm glad to hear that Buffalo is taking care of it. They have great customer service. I've never had an issue with that carpet and I put every set I get in the dryer. It was probably just a bad section of material.
Have now done 8 sets of bags with wdv. Most recently Viper R, Psycho R and Widow R. The Viper R came out perfect-1hr soak in 1.5 cups wdv in a gallon of water. The Psycho Rs were still a little stiff after the same and the Widow Rs were good not perfect. At this point I’ll probably re-soak the paychos and let the widows “play in” they’re so close I don’t want to “overcook” them.
I can tell you that you can “overcook” them with wdv, I did a set of slide rites (backyard party bags) with 2 cups/gallon for 2hrs and the fabric side is like mush.
Ok, well I unknowingly overcooked the widow R’s for the league boards that I play on. They are really nice and soft and feel great in my hand but the carpet is soooo slooow now I can’t get them up the board.
On my boards they’re fine. I think going forward I’ll probably use wdv with shorter multiple soaks
Works GREAT brah-brah! Waiting on my AAR "Rippers" to do this method once again!(one cup vinegar 2 hours soak in HOT water in a ice chest!!!! Helps beat the bags up a little more!(Tumble dry no heat...add 5+tennis balls and a couple pillows too!) 🌽🕳💯🤙🏼☯️
Anyway we can see the end result on those bags? A before and after?
Fantastic video
I don't have a before picture but I can post an after one. For me, the break in is more about how the bag feels. It's impossible to convey that through a video. I wish there was some way to measure break in.
Did you use this technique on the Swag Bag KaBooms and Chaos you reviewed? If so water to vinegar ratio did you use? Thank you in advance dig your channel.
I either used vinegar or Toss Sauce on those bags. I can't remember. When I use Vinegar, I typically use one cup to a sink full of water. I'm guessing my sink holds 1 - 1 1/2 gallons of water. I've never measured it.
Thank you
Has anyone ever tried this method twice on the same set of bags? Have a pair of fire assaults and not floppy enough after 1 hr soak in wdv, but don't want to risk ruining materials
Yes, I have done that several times and didn't have any issues.
You know I see this all over the place I know Vinegar is a natural softener..But there is one thing you do as with Toss Sause that always gets me and I question it...The Dryer..let on high heat or low...
I always asked, has anyone ever soak their bags in hot water, not boil water, hot tap water for an hour and then put them in the dryer to see how they came out???
Yes, I have. I bought 2 sets of bags and I compared 7 different break in methods. The 8th bag was a control bag where I soaked it in hot water for an hour and then tumbled in dryer on low heat for an hour. I had planned to make a video of this process and share my results. I was not satisfied with how the video turned out so I never published it. There was a noticeable difference in this bag compared to all the other bags that had some sort of product used on them. The control bag was not close to being broke in. The products make a huge difference in speeding up the break in process. I plan to do more videos like this using other products. There will be one video where I go over not using any products and how to break the bags in that way.
@@MikesBags Thank You! Finally someone has tried this that I been trying to get an answer on for the last 6 months.
Im gonna give this a shot but not put them in the dryer. Im thinkin on a rack with a fan to dry
Why distilled vinegar?
It's a natural fabric softener.
Don't they have a vinegar smell to them
Watch the video
No
No smell after you rinse them
No they do not. I was skeptical the first time I used it because there is a strong vinegar smell while the bags are soaking. Once you rinse them out, the smell is gone. Just make sure you use white distilled vinegar.