We’re All Stuck In This System | The Crown (Jonathan Pryce, Elizabeth Debicki)
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- My dears, upon hearing rumors about Diana's book (Elizabeth Debicki), Philip (Jonathan Pryce) advises her against disrupting the royal system. He stresses the importance of avoiding disturbances and maintaining discretion to protect something much more significant-the system.
🔎The Crown Season 5, Episode 2, 'The System'.
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🎬The Crown (2016-2023): Follows the political rivalries and romance of Queen Elizabeth II's reign and the events that shaped the second half of the 20th century.
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Phillip felt strongly he could “help” Diana because he felt like they were in the same predicaments, but Phillips failed to notice how the differences cast a valley between their thinking. Namely, his wife loved him unconditionally, and Diana’s husband…certainly not.
Strongly agree. I did a history essay on Diana in high school. Honestly I felt for her. I have little respect for Camilla. Diana seemed to have suffered because Charles didn’t give her a chance. Which is so sad and awful. I wonder what life would have been like if Charles gave Diana the time of day. I was a little kid when Diana died. But the look of shock on my mum’s face is something I have never forgotten. I don’t think Diana would have liked Meghan purely for rift she has put between Will and Harry.
@@lauraclaire actually it was reported by many that Charles actually paused his affair with Camilla just after he married Diana and only resumed said affair after Diana cheated on him first with her bodyguard. Regardless of whether this report is true or not, Diana was actually a difficult wife as well. There were many reports that Charles fired many staff, rehomed his dog, and had to distance himself from his friends just to please Diana because she didn't like them. Apparently, he would also try to get Diana professional help for her bulima, but she would refuse it. And if we were to talk about infidelity, infidelity went both ways. In fact, Diana actually cheated first in the marriage (something she admits in an interview, but I can't remember which one) and she even had affairs with multiple men including married ones, breaking multiple marriages in the process. Apparently, Diana actually had obsessive tendencies where the wives of men she had slept with, would actually file restraining orders against her. Either way, none of this condones Charles as he was far from the perfect husband, but to say that he was the only one wrong in the marriage is simply not true.
@@ellevillamor4454before or after Charles consistently emotionally abused Diana since the beginning of their marriage?
@@GTK4217 again if you read carefully what I commented Charles did try to please and make Diana happy just after they got married. It's only after having been married to Diana for a while that Charles had enough of her behaviour and went back to his lover Camilla. Besides if you want to talk about emotional abuse, did you know that Diana actually pretended to have the same interests and hobbies as Charles to be seen as a suitable wife? And then she dismissed those hobbies as boring and tried to get Charles to drop them during her honeymoon with Charles? Did you also know that those staff Charles had to fire just to please her needed those jobs? But that they only got fired, not because of their incompetence, but just because Diana didn't like them? Did you also know that the dog Charles had was his longtime companion that he had to let it go just because Diana didn't like pets? And what of the wives of the marriages that Diana broke? Did they deserve that? I am not saying Charles was the ideal husband, he wasn't, but if we were to look at this objectively, both parties were flawed and ultimately not suited for one another
Diana literally said IN ON SCREEN INTERVIEW she threw a vase at Charles within 2 years of marrige because she felt 'INHEARD IN THE SYSTEM"... Not only that but she tried to kill herself while pregnant with william and threw herself down the stairs in the last trimester of pregnancy with Harry.. She also married Charles who she said told her about his love for Camilla before marrige... Where she was failed was the lack of help for her serious mental problems. . She could have allowed charles to hook up with camila (something its implied she said he could do when he told her about his love for camilla) and gone on to have secret affairs with whoever she wished... with Charles blessing, had she only stayed quiet. Yes, Charles was seeing other women, but he didnt choose Diana and even she said he was cool with her "having fun" as long as it wasnt photographed. Charles, even though he cheated chronically... was NEVER photographed with camilla while married. Diana however was photographed with 3 married men. At her private apartment@@GTK4217
Jonathan Pryce is a fantastic actor, his Shylock was second to none.
“I can be a tough, old nut, but I’ve always had a soft spot for you. Maybe because you’re young. Maybe because you’re a beautiful woman. Maybe because I often share your frustration with your husband. You know, I’ve always felt protective of you. Fond of you. There, I said it.” In that moment, it was Tobias Menzies’ Philip speaking, not Jonathan Pryce. It was everything Tobias’ Philip wanted to say to Emma Corrin’s Diana at the end of 4x10 but didn’t.
He wasn't wrong - the problem is, Diana wasn't content to play the game. Not fufilling. And for too long she thought she could make Charles love her - fantasy. Sadly, for all of her good qualities, immaturity, self doubt that crying need for validation too often got the better of her :(
Diana's mind is made up! People didn't feel too bad for Diana having to live in her " leopard colony". She was given a palace! And that artificial curtsey she gave Prince Philip was silly. Philip was kind and caring and tried his best to get through to Diana but she's a "victim" as usual in her own head. At his age he must have been exhausted by this scheming ingrate. Philip tried to encourage her and support her and even told her she could do whatever she wanted to do and she could break rules too - no need to say that to Diana. She is already a pro at this! Diana just wanted to move on - and with a divorce coming she would dish out even more revenge and receive more attention from the media but even her young son William asked her to stop with all her newspaper headlines. As Diana said many times " I won't go quietly!" Of course not. The 2 year old is throwing another tantrum! Diana's mother warned her about not getting into the royal family as many thought she was unfit for the position but Diana wanted to become Princess of Wales more than anything and if it meant having to marry Charles then so be it. Although Diana wanted respect and love and loyalty did she ever give any to the royal family? I hope so...I doubt it...
I adored Diana. But Ive always had a different perspective than others. I believe Charles did love her. Being 'in love' & loving someone is not the same. You cant help what your heart feels. But too often, she spoke before she thought. She used the media, for everything. Not realizing, that once you did that, there was no going back. Charles & Diana were both emotionally scarred, & flawed individuals.
@suehart919. I liked "lady" Diana when she first came on the scene but Princess Diana was emotionally unstable and treacherous! People only think of her as an innocent victim and Charles as a womanizer. Not true. Diana took her married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and I feel bad for their innocent wives and children. These wives should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain!! Diana lacked a conscience and carried the three S's throughout her life: selfish, stubborn and spoiled. Charles remained with his one true love Camilla ❤. Diana was emotionally cruel to people behind closed doors. Diana really did have a friend in Queen Elizabeth, and yes the queen hid most of Diana's craziness from the media. She had to hide most of the things Diana did because Diana was a big humiliation for the royals and herself and Charles and the UK and...
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcYour hate boner for Diana is crazy. Going on here defending your stance like a loon 😆
@@mvdum29 Crazy? Loon? LoL 😅😅. Takes one to know one! Take care dum!
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc At least I acknowledge my lunacy, and I don't go on videos spewing vitriol for a woman long dead. Wouldn't be caught dead defending Camilla!
@@mvdum29 Well that's one thing we have in common - we both acknowledge you are a lunatic. And I'm not so sure I could defend the devious Diana.... Well - well maybe - in the distant future - if I was forced to. Really really forced. Right. That's it. I have to be forced into defending that headcase. Yep, I really want to hear Diana's endless whining and plotting and scheming and ...
At least I learned a long time ago never say never! LoL 😆😆😆.
God bless, Camilla! What a RELIEF HRM QUEEN CAMILLA truly is!! ❤❤❤🎉.
Great ending....the bird flying high....AND FREE!
Keep coming with the crown videos. My favorite show on Netflix. Please
Poor Diana rocked the boat.....
And every time Diana falls out of the boat she blames others! I think Diana missed her boat the day she wrote a book with Andrew Morton about Charles and the rest of the family. Diana was a difficult thing to deal with! She was a real back staber!! Maybe, Diana drilled her own holes in her boat...
She was so young in the beginning. Really she did not have a hope. Poor girl, it cost her life in a round about way.
The bird circling may have symbolized that in a sense, Diana was already dead in a lot of ways.
I wonder what the symbolism of Prince Phillip seeing the bird circling around was about. Anyone wanna take a gander/guess?
What I've learned from things like the crown and Harry walking away is that the 'royals" have to show to the outside world that they are somehow more special, appointed by God, or they lose their life of luxury. A "working" royal. You goto a luncheon at a daycare or shelter for women, listen to a speech, give a speech and never have to think about that place or those people again until next year. So you do luncheons and dinners and give speeches 2 maybe 3 times a day. Sounds like a lot of playing. 😊. And rocking the boat would show there is no need for them. It's like many areas of our government that aren't necessary.
When you've been to a lunch or a ceremony a hundred times, it is probably more work than play. Their presence generates a lot of public interest to causes that may otherwise fail.
@@MsJubjubbird Correct! People are very drawn to FAME and famous people like queen Elizabeth or princess Diana, certainly were famous world wide. 😊
Thinking of rewatching this for the 3.rd time
Same here. Seen too many crown vids on my algorithm to not rewatch.
Basically screw around as much as you like on the days off. Unfortunately being diana even sweet shopping in Tetbury after the wedding was big news. The Queen called the press to BH. "Get her staff to buy them" the queen answered with " oh really?" I think the editors were wondering who's going to The Tower after that.
0:48 "Ghastly!" Jonathan Pryce said it in The Crown, PotC, and maybe Tomorrow Never Dies
Hang on is this the same Jonathan Pryce who was the original Engineer in “Miss Saigon”?
Oh oh, bad omen in the sky.
She should tell him she wants something better for William
Diana ruined 3 MARRIGES... 3 married men she slept with publicly. 3 innocent wives husbands she slept with. Her body guard (he chose her over his wife and she tossed him aside 3 months later), Her polo instructor (slept with him, press caught him leaving her apartment at 3am and his life devastated, left him), and army captain james hewit, had a open affair with him, took married him to many events (where she was the most photographed person in the world) and kissed him on the cheek holding hands KNOWING IT WOULD BE PRINTED.... Andrew, Camillas husband knew she was seeing charels from jump and didnt GAF because he was screwing anne. The wives of the men Diana fked were unrelated innocent third parties not in the game.
@@spoons250 Well said! Diana, wanted sympathy ( and she got it ) when Charles was with Camilla and yet Diana was sleeping with married men. Diana wanted everyone to know that as a wife and mother of two children she was hurt by Charles' infidelity. Yet Diana, did the same thing! I think all these innocent wives and children should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain! Lol 😅😅
@01denese. No. Diana should not tell Prince Philip that she wants something better for William ( or Harry ). Do not drag those two innocent boys into this unstable and toxic "marriage". Keep this conversation with the adults only.
I think a part of why Phillip could not relate to Diana was girls were treated FAR worse in the royal family than boys. Endless speculation about weight, pregnancy, attire, sex lives, all swirled around female royals more than male. So for him it was oppressive, but for her, unbearable.
Phillip was treated quite unfairly in the beginning. It only stopped when he grew into his role and managed to use the system to his advantage. In the beginning, he was the foreigner, the brother of Nazis, the trophy husband (quite unbearable for a man of his generation and with his sense of pride).
The reason why he couldn't relate to Diana was because he, in the end, managed to get accustomed to the system and because he understood that loyalty to the family as a whole was more important than the individual. Diana thought the opposite, feeling that her feelings were more valid than the stability of the family (a sentiment she and her husband shared). Phillip couldn't understand that she was unable to act happy for appearances sake in public as he had done.
I think that is more on the tabloids than the royals. The tabloids hold women to much higher beauty standards than men. But Diana proactively engaged with them
@FishareFriendsNotFood972. I have a quick question for you, sir, may I ask is this a picture of you or is this the American actor, Orson Bean? Either way, nice looking! Take care. Be happy 😊😊😊.
@@MsJubjubbird There's no doubt about it that Diana, LOVED to be photographed!! Sad, how addicted Diana was to the press! Any addiction can badly affect our lives and relationships!
It a Play Station 🎮😊
she did not follow his advice
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcBooks written by the Charles-propagandists? How devious to let the public know how awful the royal family was to her
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc... The beautiful woman Diana will always remain, loved world wide, yet she wasn't loved by the man she loved. The Landmine Manufacturers took out Diana for exposing them. Had Charles remained faithful to Diana and not divorced she would not have been allowed to get involved in such projects as the wife of the future King.
@@mlbp2567 Yes, the queen was just awful when she hid all the things that Diana did behind the palace doors! But SERIOUSLY, the queen must have been very hurt by Diana's craziness! Maybe the queen should have let Diana's stuff come to light. Why did the queen always protect or conceal Diana's stupidity? Diana was emotionally unstable.
@@erzsebethyoung Diana hated Charles 🤬🤬. She was emotionally cruel and treacherous. Diana took all her married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and ruined the men's marriages. I feel bad for their innocent wives and children! Maybe all the wives should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain! Lol 😅😅.
@@erzsebethyoung Diana wanted to take only HER OWN ADVICE afterall Diana knew everything, remember? So why should she listen to Prince Philip?
It could be seen as a threat
It is a threat
And Prince Philip was racist
I like how there's a totally non symbolic vulture above the palace. Because the audience is stupid and needs these kind of references.
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Thought it was an eagle
@@RavingCelt009 eagle, vulture, both have no place in central london. it's symbolic. And very effective!
Sir, I hope you are not implying that the viewers of The Crown are stupid Americans if this is the case then you and the "Royals" are not too bright either. If my woman's intuition is wrong then excuse me, please. I've never seen The Crown but I only enjoy posting the comments here as it passes some time while I'm just waiting for a friend. Relax, be happy ☺️.
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc i'm implying the crown has little faith in the intellectual level of its audience.
so condescending to her
He starts out very nice and cordial and then slips in those words "privacy" and confidentiality." Then he goes right for her throat!
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A buzzard over Kensington Palace?
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ha she told the sytem to go to hell
Hello or hell? Diana was certainly friendly when she pushed her way through the palace. This 19 year old knew what she wanted and it wasn't Charles - it was to be Princess of Wales and eventually queen. Camilla, took Diana's place easily and Charles is very proud of Camilla for her hard work.
The system made sure she go to hell..😂😂😂
Phillip ostensibly wanted to help Diana, but ended up being part of the problem. The selfish old geezer was trying to protect his own privileged life.
Philip had a wife of many years, a sister in law, four children and multiple grandchildren. He will put them all before Diana. Not to mention, he dedicated his whole life to service to the crown and was not about to throw it away for one troublemaker.
@@MsJubjubbird Well said! Diana, truly was a troublemaker - she was a plotter all along. Looking back I wish Charles had dated her much longer so that he would have seen just how disturbed Diana really was...
Remember this is only drama. People take these dramas too seriously.
He had liited time for Diana but had all sorts of tine for Lady Romsey, enough to teach her carriage racing!
@rickarr. Prince Philip did reach out to Diana, and he even tried to be a "counselor" for Charles and Diana. Prince Philip often wrote her letters on how to deal with the royals and the media and protocol etc.. He did have an outreach for all the younger royals coming up. Prince Philip also introduced Lady Romsey ( and his grandchildren ) to carriage racing to get her out of her depression after the loss of her 5 year old daughter to cancer. If Prince Philip was on the make for Lady Romsey well, that's between Queen Elizabeth and him.
Prince Philip many times impressed me as caring and open minded and sympathetic. Well, just my thoughts.... Be happy 😊😊
He was one of the few people that could've actually saved her from literally getting murdered... But didn't
She wasn't murdered.
@@frname7665murdered by the homicidal royal family
@@frname7665murdered by the homicidaI royaI famiIy
@@frname7665yes she was
@@lrmn3492 No. She hopped in a car with a drunk Al Fayed driver driving at unbelievable speeds. What do you think happens in these situations?
ridiculous she has to curtsy to him in private
Maybe in real life she didn't curtsey. Who knows? The Crown doesn't always get things right. Diana didn't seem to like Prince Philip but he couldn't control her. He was probably frustrated. I'm thinking in the long run her mind was already made up to divorce Charles, so Diana, allowed Philip to just speak and he babbled on and on and on. Prince Philip was annoyed by her silence - again, I think Diana had made up her mind by this point.
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcthe crown is not supposed to get things right. As always mentioned is fictional
@@user-bw4fn2xr7p At times I think it's fictional too and yet The Crown does cut a little too close to the bone especially in one episode when Diana meets a young Kate Middleton - fictional yes but I prefer accuracy. In reality Diana and Kate never met. Odd how The Crown didn't want to get it right. "As always mentioned it is fictional"!