Universal Ignition Module for Outdoor Power Equipment
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In this video I'm going to talk about an ignition module. If you're familiar with these it's probably because you've been working on your lawn mower chainsaw and you come across one that's been faulty or defective. Usually these items are very expensive they
only range usually between $30 and $80 dollars. But in this repair using a universal ignition module like the one that I'm including a link to, save me over a $160 dollars. The ignition modules on the small air cooled engines are used to sense the magnetic pulse
using the magneto that produces the spark also as the trigger. In this case the magneto went bad and the ignition module too. The fact that this is a Suzuki engine and is no longer being produced makes this part rather expensive at the dealer. So what I did was
go to my old standby the universal ignition module. What I normally use these models for is replacing points and condensers on older engines. What you can do is just take the wire that is running to the coil on a points and condenser engine and clip the wire
that's running down to the points and instead connected to the positive side of this ignition module. The other side then gets grounded to the engine block or blower housing. You have to be careful to make sure that it doesn't seem excessive vibration or heat just like you would for any other electronic component on an engine. It's really nice that you can buy these for less than $20 and you don't ever have to worry about replacing or adjusting points ever again. Thanks for watching my video
Those modules work great ! They are often brand named Atom, Nova, Laser or several other names. They sell for about $8 and up depending on where you buy it.
These modules are great. They are sold under a lot of different brand names but they all look exactly the same. I put one of these in an old chainsaw to replace the points and condensor. I keep one in my shop for the next thing that may need one. Sometimes when you want to get rid of the points and condensor on something you can just get an electronic ignition coil but for the times a coil like that isn't available you can get pop one of these on it and you're good to go.
They are pretty awesome I always keep a couple in my shop.. Here is my repair channel th-cam.com/users/Foxboss9
My JD garden tractor has this built into the magneto, no separate module, so folks should check their application before ordering one of these. The mag is of course more expensive than a standard one.
This will replace your magneto, even built in... It just needs to use the existing magneto to "sense a pulse"...
How about a 2 cyl 20 HP Merc Outboard with dual points and coils. Can I use two of those in place of my old points.
Wish they existed when I was younger. I HATED to crank a vise and then hammer off a stuck flywheel. Then you had to set the gap the contacts. Eesh!
great tutorial! thank you
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Thanks got mine running
Thanks for the info. Great video
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Have you tried those on the older Echo chainsaws, CS 400, 440, 500, 650, series? The ign system on these are long obsolete & it's a crap shoot if used.
Doesn't do me any good if the coil is shot. I had a place sell me this and it didn't do anything for a failed coil. So now what? Can I replace an older Techumseh snowblower coil with a replacement. It seems the coil is built into the magneto housing. It pisses me off they sold me that useless part if the coil is bad. I think they thought it was for a newer engine or something. I think Techumseh reused the HM80 numbers on other equipment. I will be contacting them again tomarrow. I am frustrated at this point.
Good deal, thanks!
Excellent!
Do you need to remove blower housing to access wires , so you can splice them ?
great i allway have the same problem my engine is 2 cyl and use point and condenser still trying to know how to replace it with a GM hei style ignition module :S
Hi am david from south africa in durban .just want help l got 1976 xt 500 can l change the points and condenser with this method
Does it work
on points and consider
Will it work on john deere 316 onan engine?
Tried these on a suzuki dt2 outboard and it just got red hot and died in about 30 seconds
Unless it was mounted in a position that it couldn't cool itself, which is important there had to be a wiring issue could be that there was a bad diode somewhere in the factory wiring that was causing feedback.
I put one of these on my 031av and it did seem to help, but I'm still having problems. I've tried both the original flywheel and a flywheel from an 031av electronic ignition saw and the original definitely works better, but it still doesn't seem to have much power. It dies whenever I put the saw to some wood. I took it to a shop, and they said it was a timing issue. I'm not sure what to do next. Do you have any ideas? Thanks.
+Todd Koeppel I'd Have the shop that ID'd it as a timing issue fix it.. If not I would experiment with the plug gap to see if it helps out. start by going smaller and then bigger .002" at a time.
sounds like a carb issue,check out donyboy73 video's there is on for your problem.
Todd Koeppel i have worked on saws that had the same problem. the cranckshaft seals we re leaking on them. if you can start the saw, then spray WD-40 on the crank seals and it causes the engine to change speed, then the crank seals are sucking air and need replaced. you can check a cylinder base gasket the same way.
Im wondering how to wire it in.
Instructions are included
i have the same exact snow thrower. so using this device I will still be able to use the electric start feature? Thanks
Yes.. starting systems and ignition systems are separate
Will it work on an ezgo Robin's engine
Yes
I ordered the exact same part and installed it on the exact same snowblower and while I now get spark and it runs great the key is backwards. it runs with the key in the off position and kills with it in the on position. I thought maybe I plugged the two wire connector into the key backwards but it still operates the same (backwards) when I turn the connector around. It's a simple system. 1 wire from the coil to the + of the new module, then 1 wire out of the - side of the module to the kill switch then out to ground. any idea what might be causing this?
Its wired backwards..thats all
@@LeboView it's technically not possible. if you reverse the module then it doesn't start and if you reverse the kill switch then it's still backwards, no matter how you wire it, which only has 2 ways anyway.
Nice tutorial,have you put any of these on the older Tecumsehs?I been trying but no luck.
No the hh100 i have has been rock steady as far as the electrical side but if it fails I will definitely put one on..
on older Tecumsehs, frequently the main bearings wear to the point engine will not stay in time, or run at least for very long. A really good machinist can put bearings in, which engine never had originally, for $$$.
On those you can't if it has a generator.
hi there - how does this pick up the timing correctly without the points?
Way above my paygrade how that works but it's through electronic pulse
Does it work on outboard engine 2cylinders 2stroke
To replace points and consider on outboard engines
Put a nova 2 on burned out in about twenty mins got a mega fire 2 on the way
Any ideas why
There is more of an issue than component failure if it happens more than once.. You definitely have to protect it from heat!!
I have an Onan generator with 2 cylinders it has points no flywheel no starter no Magneto the coil has to wires coming out of it one for each cylinder will this device work?
The twins could possibly work with this as long as the signals do not overlap
Is it a horizontal or V? Also does the coil connect to a battery? I have a welder with an onan 18hp horizontal engine. The gm hei module was a better fit. It can be wired to use points as its firing trigger.
@@dimedriver Do you have instructions or part numbers on how you made this modification?
@@ryancarr7808 search gm hei points trigger. Here is the 1st good one I found. www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/how-to-trigger-hei-using-stock-points-dist.978979/
The hei module takes care of dwell. You just have to get timing right. It can also be triggered by VR sensors. Typically older GM crank angle sensors.
@@ryancarr7808 at an auto parts store if it's an old guy behind the counter ask for a gm hei module. Young guy ask for the ignition module for a 1979 chevy camaro with a v8. Don't pay a lot for them they will be under worked on a two cylinder.
Would this work to replace points on 2 cyi. outboard? Guessing you need 2? Thanks.
Yes it would work and if you only have one coil that fires both cylinders than you only need one
How exactly does this adapter ignition work? The original briggs module is direct in front of magnet when flywheel passes for direct timing.. The older magnetos need a mechanical cam for exact timing. How does this module get it's signal to fire at proper timing if just bolted to sheetmetal.
the signal comes from the unit recognizing the coils magnetic field being breached by the flywheel...it is instantaneous
Any good ideas on finding a good deal on the magneto coil?
Unfortunately, none..
Norman Wright Check your local small engine shop. They may have a used one to sell you. Otherwise, check eBay or source a unit to steal it out of.
Killer.