A human being (George Orwell) characterised dystopian societies with a lot more accuracy and specificity. He would recognise the absurdity of society today but be equally dismayed and amazed at how rapidly and unconsciously it came to pass. @@id6668
@@Peter-hs7zn did you listen to what the Isreali lawyer said or did you just want to listen to the pro Palestinian activist interpret his words for the entire video?
I’ve noticed some people questioning why nothing has been done in the past 75 years. Firstly, those posing this question need some history lesson. Here’s a snippet: Every single time the UN attempted to pass a resolution against Israel to halt the construction of settlements in the West Bank and to prevent harm to Palestinians, the US vetoed it. The US has vetoed resolutions on Israel a total of 46 times. Now, go figure why no significant action could be taken in the past 75 years. When a bully (US) rises to the status of a superpower, this is the inevitable outcome.
Netanyahu melakukan genosida ke Gaza. Tindakan Netanyahu sangat sadis. Netanyahu melanggar hukum hak asasi manusia. Dia mesti diadili di pengadilan International
@@71suns Switzerland rather than Netherlands. Switzerland is a neutral country. Netherlands is not. South Africa was colonized by the Dutch (then Holland, now Netherlands).
Living in a world where evil 😈 is called good and good is called Evil....God is coming to confront this evil soon and very soon and the world 🌎 will shake!!! Watch the pace!!!
I appreciate South Africa for standing up for us and doing what no one else was willing. The Israeli soldier that killed my aunt Huda Hawarjeh in Aida Bethlehem smiled on camera and said he was purifying the land. The CBC covered this interview but I also uploaded here to my channel on youtube for the world to see. I hope that one day all Palestinian refugees can return to our homeland and have peace equality of value and voting.
@@paulheydarian1281 Exactly the defence they gave to be honest. I was actually waiting for them to mention Metro Terror Cities like the gobby Tzipi Hotovely came up with.
All narcissists have arguments of a 2-year old but still, they tend to be convincing in this stupid world. That's why this world is run by a bunch of them.
@@ZzXZ636 What lies? All i said is "Hamas is not part of a solution". I NEVER made statement about Israel, the war or anything else. Or you just like putting words into peoples mouths?
@modafinil1015 Are we getting personal? You can not handle the truth? I would say someone parents must have a low confident to raise a child not able to handle the truth. She presented herself out as attorney, but she does not even sound like she knows the current case law. She can present herself as pro-Proletarians--not an attorney. I am simply asking ? and make statement based on my professional opinion.
@@lilyannal5159 good observation .. if she was a lawyer, she would have said "citing various jurisprudence or case law" because that is the language commonly used by lawyers, instead of just saying "citing various aaahhh arguments" like an ordinary layman would .. to me, she appears to be a mere media reporter ..
Still not to late to evacuate any civilians left after being asked repeatedly to leave by IDF. Why couldn't Arab countries let civilians in temporarily ? Egypt? Jordan?
It took a country from Africa to take Israel to task while all those "pillars of democracy" in the West are completely absent and silent on this genocide.
Seems to me like the defense they've put together is basically "nu-uh!", "they started it!" and "you can't do this"... Compared to the airtight presentations we saw yesterday, this is pathetic and SO embarrassing for them. If the ICJ fails to enact justice, it will be just as pathetic and embarrassing, and international law will mean nothing
This is not the first case for Israel, Bosnia had already tried to sue Israel in 2016 for its involvement in the Bosnian genocide! and we were dismisses on the grounds that this would endanger Israel's national security!
It is widely believed in South Africa that the case against Israel is funded by Iran. The ruling ANC was facing financial ruin, having been sued and unable to pay a substantial debt. A delegation went to Iran and quite suddenly the ANC's debts were paid and their financial woes vanished.
"Widely believed" more like "trust me bro". What would u rather sit back and watch a genocide unravel, Michael? You'd probably be on hitlers side during his Reign top ure fucked up.
It doesn't matter who funds the case, what matters is which side is telling the truth. The heap of evidence brought forward by the SA is overwhelming and the Israelis cannot deny it.
If the State of Israel is allowed to carry this on then any state can does as they please. That is what the State of Israel is asking the courts to have free reign over anything and anyone in their country with impunity.
It is absurd that these people (the left-wing anti-semites) are unable to recognize the images shared from both sides are of the same perpetrator! It is the Palestinians who shamelessly use their own victims and those they have created as pure propaganda, and that is literally disgusting for every civilized living being to have to witness.
Genocide and torture are not specific to Palestine; East Turkestanis are also being oppressed in China. They must be held accountable for this, otherwise every person may one day suffer this evil.
@@Liberal676That’s far from the only place that *real* genocides are occurring, open, explicitly-intended murders of millions upon millions of people - but *no one* is protesting *any* of those in the streets, or taking *those very obvious* oppressors to the ICJ. The *only* nation being so targeted - EVER - is Israel. Gee, I wonder why that is.
About South Africa being the accuser of Apartheid, wait had we forgotten that they are the best example of Apartheid and what about other African country who killed and maim their own people because they belong to another tribe or clan.
@robertlanario *_ BANKRUPT ANC ( THE RULING PARTY OF SOUTH AFRICA) GETS A BOOST FROM IRAN Very interesting!! Copied this from tweets doing their rounds.... Now it starts to make sense. Bankrupt ANC gets paid by Iran to run propaganda interference against Israel. If they hadn't and the Courts declared them bankrupt, the Constitution prohibits them from running for election. So, they did this deal in an attempt to remain in power and in so doing threatened or risked disinvestment in our country by the US, UK and Europe! Since the SA government has announced that they stand by Hamas, 1.4 trillion Rand in investments have been withdrawn from SA - Economist Magnus Heystek 😮 About 6 months ago an application was brought by a service provider who was owed about R 120 million by the ANC for the liquidation of the ANC. The application was due to be heard in November 2023. Earlier last year it had been unable to pay the salaries of staff for several months. The ANC was close to bankruptcy. (Sounds familiar? ... like the SAA, SABC, Eskom, Transnet etc. etc) In October 2023, the minister of foreign affairs visits Iran. Soon after this visit ... 1) the government expresses solidarity with the Palestinians in a public display broadcast on TV 2) hosts a Hamas delegation in SA. 3) launch an urgent application to the ICJ, accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza. Just the preliminary application costs come to R 200 million for preparation and argument (the final trial will cost about R 1,5 billion.) About 3 weeks ago the liquidation application against the ANC is confidentially settled (R100m) and the ANC published a statement that its financial woes are over and it’s ready to fund and fight the 2024 elections. Get it? It is not rocket science. _*
Why it was irrelevant, you only based that because it was happening only now, so the lives of the people that perished in Apartheid South Africa is Irrelevant today, why because now Blacks are the ruler and head of the Goverment, so Mandela is now irrelevant so you are saying..
@@cancerino666 *_ The SA government only did it because Iran PAID their debt (Of the ruling party ANC) and made a deal to take Israel to the ICC. Hamas even has an office in SA. Maybe the leaders are hiding somewhere here in SA? _*
They spoke like they were on i24, they expected people to believe them based on their words. They failed to prove anything at all in 3 hours apart saying things like South Africa can't submit the application because we are not at war together. Insane
@@BrutalistBoogieplease don’t try your reductionist tactics. Can you try, just try be clever in your comebacks. 1. The comment was about ONE person, someone who is trying to justify heinous crimes. Don’t try pull this “persecuted people “/anti-Semitic card. 2. Where in the world is this a leftist issue? It’s about human beings across all spectrums having the decency to know that continued bombing and killing and injuries and withholding basic supplies (healthcare, water, food etc) is completely inhumane. It’s the one issue that the right and left are meeting on. At least those that are not under the spell of Israeli and USA mainstream propaganda.
@@tauseefmd-oc7yz lol it is hilarious. When Africa thinks the world forgot what they did. Luckily the majority of the world doesn’t go to TikTok for information. Unlike the Hamas supporters
Israel's defense was the usual Oct 7 and Hamas - so as to smokescreen a colonial founding and subsequent slow ethnic cleansing through a 75-year occupation & Apartheid. "Take the worst thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000 times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians" ~Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
Because they know there is nothing to defend. The whole world knows this is not self defense (that is aside from the fact that they legally have no authority to defend themselves against the occupation. They are legally allowed to END the occupation if they are attacked).
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I couldn't believe they claimed that Israeli hostages "were an afterthought" to South Africa - when the families of the hostages had to force their government to take ANY action to TRY and get the hostages back... If the Diaper Force wasn't acting on 'shoot-to-kill' orders, maybe a bunch of gems would be back with their families now...
Yes let's just forget what happened on October 7 because it doesn't suit our agenda. Shouldn’t the un be voting on Hamas surrender and handing over the hostages.and stopping using the civilians as human shields 🤷 Poor israel. Have to endure these terrorist day out and day in for 75 years. And then West Bank And Gaza people dont askt hemself why they live in this condition. Those Palestinian cause trouble and they started screaming 15000 rockets were fired from Gaza since the 7th Oct 2023. Hamas is to blame for innocent and non-innocent Palestinians getting killed. Israel does not occupy Gaza although they have every right to since Hamas has attacked Israel for over twenty years . How is Hamas following the "rules" by using civilians as shields? Damn Radical Islamists.... they are so evil Only evil people can appreciate what evil people do! Calling them animals is an insult to animal Why Jordan doesn’t open their country to the refugees? Why none of the Arab countries want to deal with them? We need to think about it. What is Iran doing in Syria ? Iran has proxies in Syria Iran Occupying Lebanon through Syria. Syria has a border with Lebanon. And in Lebanon there is Nasrallah/Hezbollah... I'm sure when Israel is done in Gaza they will deal with Iran. West Bank and Lebanon going to look like gaza Stop your lies and crocodile tears. free israel from Hamas & Iran & Hezbollah
Such is life, just as the human history has been, life goes on. Power to the rich and bad luck the poor. I was born into a world war torn, a child in the death zone, now I am old and the world is far worse then it was. Live as best as you can even if you're born into hell on earth then try to die in peace.
Mind Begs the Question: - When Criminalized for calling a Govt/Nation Nazi - Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc - Living in Free World or Nazi World?
South Africa you have come to represent the conscience of the world. As a Brit I thank you from the heart for what you are doing. The legacy of Nelson Mandela is clear to see and magnificent to behold.
Because then they would have to face the actual reality of what's happening and they don't want that because then it would force them to put blame on non-Jews.
Exactly, all footage from Democracy Now, which is an unfitting name by the way, is biased pro-palestinian from what I see, and Israeli arguments might put a dent in their "coverage of the conflict"
@@EthanBalkfield Yeah the genocidal military state's legal team is definitely where you're going to get the "actual reality." Not first-hand accounts from people _in Gaza, being bombed right now._ That's just propaganda, right?
"DTBM" channel~"What God says about Russia-- Nuclear war, Armageddon, Israel, Ezekiel and God's prophetic plan". Dr John Barnett a historian has an informative video with names, dates, events, maps since before Babylonian times including what all the nations used to be called along with each of their point of view at the time. Russia, Iran, Kurds, Medes, Persia, Kush, Ethiopia, Put, Greece, Libya, Egypt, China, Sudan, Gog, Scythians; thru the Roman empire up till today. If you like history, man this guy researched a lot!
Well for black peoples in South Africa many of them have land claims (the Khoi to practically all the land) and there are cyclical claims amongst numerous ethnic groups based on cycles of conquest and land possession. The precedent this sets though is interesting - SA is arguing genocide based on a 1% casualty rate (Hamas figures). In SA between 1991 and 2001, 2.2% of the Euro-ethnic Farmer population was killed (a figure greater now) ... will the SA government subsequently acknowledge that as genocide? @@dewalddewet759
The irony the country that brought the suit against Israel should look at itself as the worst human rights violations taking place daily in South Africa against its population and how it treats the minorities.
Pfffft Your gibberish doesn't even grok and is entirely irrelevant. A kind of gratuitous ad-nationem epithet It is obvious that the ICJ accorded the SA suit sufficient validity to hear the matter and rule in their favour on the provisional question. Your opinion is entirely worthless and is tainted by your ideological mutations
Zoinest defense attorney is worried about the 130 jew hostages but forgot to mention the 6500 Palestinians hostages in jail as we speak. Also mentioning October 7th but forgot to mention the 75 years of commiting genocite in all the Palestinians villages. Hypocrisy to the highest level.
75 years???? You need to actually read history before you open your mouth. You don't know what you are talking about. But hey maybe genocite is different than actual genocide. 75 years, how about more than 2000 years for the Jews to return to their ancestral homeland. Also, the UN granted the partition of the land. No one needed to relocate unless you chose to live in either Palestine or Israel. But instead, the arab league of Nations waged war on Israel and lost. The arab league of Nations told the "Palestinians to leave their homes as they would get them back for them. Instead, the Arab League lost. Then Jordan took control of the West Bank and Egypt took control of Gaza. They didn't create a Palestine with the lands they controlled and they controlled for 20 years.
@tsuiters Bla bla,bla...A bunch of Europeans Yearning to return home to their ancestral homeland, all revisionist Bullshit...There's no evidence of Jews attempting to return to their "Ancestral" homeland in the last 300 years, except for an American need for a Glorified Security Guard for the American Military Industrial Complex's interests in the Middle East... Israel is an American Foreign Policy Construct, nothing else...
@@tsuitersyou’re halfway right but you forgot to mention how the Israeli people don’t have any kind of biblical, religious, or “dibs” type of rights to take that land. That land belongs to no one. Look at global history and see that how land exchanged hands.
Yeah, Israel simply gives women and gays the most freedom in Middle East than any other Arab country, while Arab countries don't let women walk on their own under penalty of jail, won't let women drive, and will kill gay people. But Israel doesn't know anything about humanity. Sure.
I’ve been trying to get thru the live version of the whole ishrael side of it today but I was 10 minutes in getting second hand embarrassment. It’s a struggle to listen to the victim card , anti semitism side and blatant delusional lies they are spouting. I’ll get through it all at some point today
I state the same. Hysterical arguments, quasi inherited rights to step on other people's sovereignty and their eternal state of victim although they're wolves in sheep's skin.
Listened to the whole “defence“... Was painful, boring and sleep inducing... I regret losing 3h... Nothing new same thing they said in the news, in their propaganda...
Well, those have experience in gas, gassing etc... if one can believe alleged reports from the past. Remember the remarks that the death toll during October 7 was worse and higher than in the famous holocaust times. One may ask oneself of the veracity of the numbers and statistics of both historical moments now and then.
For someone my age, watching from afar, what South Africa has achieved over the last 60 years to be able to be in this position feels almost miraculous. Incredible!
If such information is l available, then why did Israel not show it during this opening? If they had proof they only strike l legitimate military targets that would certainly shut down any dissent about their goals. They came off as petulant children throwing a tantrum crying "How dare you question us!?"
Because they know there is nothing to defend. The whole world knows this is not self defense (that is aside from the fact that they legally have no authority to defend themselves against the occupation. They are legally allowed to END the occupation if they are attacked).
The result of this international court is not important; of course, it matters. But the mere facts that the Israeli government has to answer for what it has done, and that a lot of discourse will be circulated against them are themselves victories that humanity has achieved! I am not South African, but I do commend and praise all the people who filed this law-suit against this bully.
I take away from this my love of what Assad of syria did to the Palestinians, whet the Jordanians did, what the Kuwaiti's did, they understood what the palestinians are capable of
Well as someone who is using my country's flag on your profile, you better care about what's happening in South Africa. 23 children died in one province of starvation and our country has food and is not poor. Only 1/4 of our population earns enough to pay taxes and it's our tax money that is being used to fund this legal attack on Israel. And it's not because we don't have employment. It's because our government is comprised of a political party that is corrupt and does everything in its power to destroy our country. Now I hope you protest the corruption in South Africa... That man you see on TV with the bald head is our Minister of Justice but there's hardly any justice in South Africa - we possibly are the most violent country in the world if you add up the child rapes and abuses, rapes of women, just general violence and the fact that our citizens hire private security because the police are corrupt and don't come if you call. But you don't know all of that. You just glad you get to sit at home and clap.
Since they defending themselves, how many Hamas fighters they killed? But we know of 20,000 plus women n children dead! What about their own they killed and blame hamas? Where is d evidence of rape, cutting off heads they claim? I want evidence bring it up in court!
@@Rojbbrk did you actually listen to yesterday's arguments and supporting evidence though? They clearly point out in at least four areas that they are committing genocide with evidence of videos and data. Even using Israel's own public speeches and talks where they incriminate themselves even but stating in words that they wish to wipe out Palestinians and that not a single Palestinian (including children and newborns) are not innocent.
Not "Israel," it's Netanyahu and the soldiers (not all of the soldiers). Let's not get this twisted. The families of the Jews who were killed or taken hostage by Hamas, want a ceasefire as well and believe in the freedoms of Palestinians. It's like saying "Palestine" attacked, killed, kidnapped, and brutalized the Jewish people on Oct 7th. It wasn't the Palestinians-it was Hamas. Choice of words are paramount here to prevent hatred.
so I have no right to speak about the hypocrisy? lol China is committing genocide on a grand scale they have whole departments on murdering millions of ethnic Chinese. They kill these people and take they’re organs and harvest them to sell thats why it takes only 2 weeks to get dam heart liver kidney or any organ body part is such a short notice because they’re killling people and yes they are people why you treating them differently? They destroyed theyre culture,religion, they’re way of life and took theyre land. But now they’re in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, slave labor factories and in prisons for their political or religion beliefs and they’re harvesting them. Africa is part of brics alliance and is more friendly with China than USA. So ofc Africa would pull a move like this an ally of the USA but are silent with China lol
@@branevans3705 so I have no right to speak about the hypocrisy? lol China is committing genocide on a grand scale they have whole departments on murdering millions of ethnic Chinese. They kill these people and take they’re organs and harvest them to sell thats why it takes only 2 weeks to get dam heart liver kidney or any organ body part is such a short notice because they’re killling people and yes they are people why you treating them differently? They destroyed theyre culture,religion, they’re way of life and took theyre land. But now they’re in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, slave labor factories and in prisons for their political or religion beliefs and they’re harvesting them. Africa is part of brics alliance and is more friendly with China than USA. So ofc Africa would pull a move like this an ally of the USA but are silent with China lol
I am not even sure if they ever wanted to "destroy" genocidal people. The more I hear from those morally corrupt politicians and read about people like Golda Meir etc. the more I believe that they interpreted the words "never again" as "never be the victim again, under no circumstances."
Which still doesn't help us with the decision of which party to cheer for in this conflict! At least I know for certain I won't cheer for some backwards-oriented religious fundamentalists, though.
@@HillelSabban Albert Einstein also said “It will be my greatest sadness to see Zionist(jews) do to the Palestinian Arabs much of what the Nazis did to the jews”
i cannot understand how so many tunnels can be made inside Gaza without without the knowledge by Palestanian. Who are complicit in formenting conflicts. please help me understand
Because the so-called burglar purchased that territory and did not kick anybody out of it. That's why 2 million Arabs are still living in Israel. Ottoman lands were conquered by Brits, who handed them off to UN. UN made a decision to give portion to Israel. It was a very very small portion. Less was given than actually promised. 85% of the land went to Palestinians. 90% of the land that Israel got was uninhabited.
South Africa is on the right side of history. True they may not have started this. They can however, not push the button to drop the bomb or pull the trigger on innocent civs. They are so brutal and bloodthirsty, just listen to Netanyahus cabinet. But it is up to them whether to be a pariah state, or part of the normal international community. I stand with Palestine 🇵🇸
@@vicious12394 they not only bought and paid for said land, they also fought a war to maintain it Anyone stating it isn't their land is either a liar, or can't do the all of 2 minutes of research required to disprove their notions You're either stupid or dishonest, in either case, your beliefs are automatically irrelevant
Israel seeks to dismiss South Africa's ICJ case on the basis that South Africa hadn't sought sufficient engagement with Israel for it to be considered a 'dispute' .. and then goes on to dispute all South Africa's charges
You would think the fact that they called Israel's Ambasador two times to a meeting ( with the SA government ) and then send him back to Israel would have been enough to understand where they stand . You dont ban an Amnasador for no reason .
The Israeli argument can easily be used against them as their genocideal occupation of over 74 years give more legitimacy under international law for Palestinians to respond to it with all legitime means including armed resistance then to Israel as an occupire who has an obligation to protect the civilians who are first second and third generations refugees of the first nakba AKA ethnic cleansing and colonialism and the own going occupation
@@عمرعبداللهجندالله There was never a Palestinians state. In 48, there were only 100k Arabs on this land which was ruled by the British. Learn some history, will you?
The IRONY is. This is the court that tried Nazis after the HOLOCAUST Now Israelis are trying to defend themselves on Genocide IN THE VERY SAME COURT 100%Turnaround
if Israel wanted to commit genocide, there would be a lot more casualties. Hamas wants to commit genocide, it's in their charter, has any charges from this court been brought on them
You don’t think more than 30,000 people are casualties? You want more? You’re so sick. On top of supporting Israel on stolen land and abusing Palestinians for more than 75 years.
The irony of them claiming hamas's attack is genocide while trying to defend themselves from allegations of genocide when they have killed over 30 times more civilians is telling
Please support my country South Africa for standing for what is right even though we stand alone, none of Islamic countries has showed support for SOUTH Africa in fighting for peace in the Arabian territory. We took this firm stand because we believe in Peace for the people of Palestine, down with Israel bombing of children who didn't even voted for Hamas leadership but they're collectively punished together with woman if this makes us enemies of USA then let be shame USA is not our God sanction us if you want for standing for what is right. Free Palestine, stand firm South Africa
South Africa isn't standing alone. Politicians won't say how they feel because they are scared of being bullied by Israel. See how many individuals worldwide turn up to protest and the MSM hide the numbers. Every day, we cry and pray in our homes for the people of Palestine. God will one day hear our prayers. 🇿🇦 is our torch bearer ❤ 🙏
@@mookiewilson4166 and they also refused to look at footages of the Israeli illegal settlers sitting on their sofas cheering on the Israeli army destroying Palestinian homes over the last decades; or Palestinian children being killed by the israeli army while cowering behind walls.
You guys are so naive. I've lost all faith in humanity. Our government and the UK will not allow true justice to prevail. The court has already decided in favor of Isreal. I was watching the body language of the judges yesterday.
3- they don't care about ICG, never cared of international laws for the past 75 years.. Why now.. Those people have zero humanity and are zero interested in laws
@@sabin97But the German Nazis didn’t say they were defending themselves against any aggressor when they sought to fix the “problem” of Jews with genocidally murderous precision.
Proud of South Africa for standing up for humanity. Self-defense is not a reason to commit genocide. They have no defense against this damaging report. They need to stop using the holocaust as a defense.
Up until September 2021, the United States had used its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to protect Israel from sanctions or resolutions critical of Israel's actions at least 41 times.
It goes way deeper than this. AIPAC tried to pay 20 million dollars to 2 politicans in order to run against another politician. AIPAC also paid multiple members within the House of Representatives and the likes of John Kirby show that they are traitors and have a double allegiance for Israel. They all serve Israel.
@modafinil1015 Must be really good to think everything you do is justified because your ancestors were persecuted. "Get a life" is what Palestine has been trying to do for 75 years
It's like whenever there's an organization in America with the words "freedom" or "patriotism" in it, you know that is some right-wing fascist ideology brainwashing organization.
Very hypocritical to call their actions genocide when all they're doing is respondong to hamas' attacks. Never have i heard of south africa world court condemn their own country's attacks from guerrilla. Genocide is attack from Only one group against another to completely exterminate, not defending yourself
i’ve never seen a dumber legal team, if you believe the israeli legal team you should donate your brain to someone who might actually make use of it. they didn’t say a single thing of importance, nothing to prove their innocence, all they did was talk about what hamas did while repeating the same old narrative which wasn’t even the subject of the case, the case wasn’t whether they can or cannot defend themselves from hamas and the case isn’t in favor of hamas either yet they didn’t show any proof that they aren’t committing a gen0cide, that one part where they tried to not take responsibility for their soldiers’ actions??? those soldiers were raised and taught to do what they are doing and israel cannot not take responsibility for that, are they punishing these soldiers who are doing acts that israel says misrepresent the “IDF”? NO because that would hurt their morale. oh and when the judge was like “someone mixed up my papers” or something like that… i didn’t think i could laughing while watching this horrifying case but i did, they can get credit for that. it’s really funny that they were incriminating themselves while trying to defend themselves. i don’t think anyone can take israel’s side unless they believe that israel is above the law. the whole thing was embarrassing for them because south africa showed so much proof and specified which laws and sections they violated yet all that israel did was just repeating talking points because that’s all they got, they presented nothing of legal importance, it was just like their usual media propaganda. how embarrassing for them.
Wow what a cycle, I remember the Boycott South Africa period, when we learned how to pronounce Apart Hate, and the colonial foundation of that cultural revolution. How refreshing to contemplate Israel receiving such a lesson.
Why should Israel defend. Palestinians are the ones who should defend themselves as they have been suffering from Israelis for decades Genocide and terrorism.. Justice and Freedom for Palestine ❤🇵🇸
@@Commenter002the land will be purified when illegal settlers are gone from the land and true inheritors of the land, the Palestinians are free in their own homeland!
Are you serious? You think killing over 30,000 children and women is “defending itself?” That’s utter bullshit, especially since Israel has been oppressing Palestinians and holding them hostage in Gaza for more than 75 years
This is kind of tragic and comical at the same time because Hamas and Palestinians are never allowed to take the stand and testify in the court throughout the trial. Palestinians have been always ignored and sidelined throughout history.
There was a delegation from Palestine with the South African legal team. The South Africans and Palestinians did a press conference together after the first day. The Palestinian reps expressed a lot of gratitude to South Africa and encouraged other countries to follow its brave example.
Your comment is ahistorical. Do more research. At this stage of hearing before the ICJ, there is no provision for the calling of witnesses. Otherwise, nothing would have prevented the South African legal team from putting not just Palestinian but Israeli and expert witnesses on the stand.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation that openly promote the extermination of the jews from this planet. They shouldn't be allowed to take the stand. It's ridiculous that Hamas controlled parts of government is speaking about the number of dead civilians on the palestinian side. 1.They themselves have openly no care for human lives. 2.They are the reason Israel is bombing civilian areas by using these people as "useful idiots" storing and firing rockets from. The loss of civilian lives would end if Hamas release the hostages and go fight the israeli army in northern Gaza. Basically start behaving like men instead of cowards.
Hamas were behind the attacks on Israel on 7th October, not the Palestinian government, and now children are paying the price. Please shut up when you don't know what you're talking about, or at least seek education.
The victim became the attacker. The oppressed became the oppressor. Lessons have not been learned. The eventual outcome will be another page in history.
We have seen it with out own eyes. There is no denying what they are doing, what they say and their intentions. Of course they will deny it. There must be consequences for the brutality towards Palestinians for decades.
This is so extraordinarily biased against Israel, Amy Goodman should be embarrassed to present this "correspondent" as a journalist. I watched the hearing so I know how distorted this is.
If the court affirms the argument that a well funded military can use any force it deems necessary to oppose an underfunded resistance to occupation force in the name of self defense, then it follows also that that resistance force must be allowed to use any means in its limited arsenal in the name of self defense. What this argument does is make law a question of "they did it, so we can" and it becomes an issue of whoever has the greater force wins. Might as well just get rid of the court and leave the status quo of might makes right intact, and we will see more killings around the world go unpunished.
Great defence to the court to say that you believe you are in pre-historic times of all means permitted. Then also attacking SA team as connected with Hamas. Incredibly manipulative, repeating nonsense hoping that something will stick.
@@timmoore3188 They don't. They have lived in a bubble for decades. Their legal presentation was so pathetic precisely because they did not take South Africa seriously and that was probably because Israelis are racist people.
Diala unfortunately forgot to mention the most compelling legal case against Israel's claim of self-defense, that as an occupation force, it has no right to use the claim of self defense.
Wrong is wrong. In the end, God will bring His wrath, even if IJC doesn’t rule against them. God chastises His children, especially if they’re unrepentant.
Correct, if they call themselves the “chosen people of God” then surely God will ensure that they will receive the highest punishment for their UnGodly actions.
Zionists tend to despise the Jewish religion. Just using it to guilt trip the world for the Nazi genocide. Unfortunately, this tends to backfire on Non zionist Jewish communities.
@@Ntsmith4satan's children can never be God's children. They are are just portraying themselves as such, I will never recognize them as God's chosen. There is no difference between them and the homosexuals.
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We live in a world where the liars are not questioned and truth speakers are condemned.😢
This happens when a civilization is on the brink of collapse.
Do you know that the prophet predicts exactly what you said 1400 years ago. He said similar events will occur in the end times
A human being (George Orwell) characterised dystopian societies with a lot more accuracy and specificity. He would recognise the absurdity of society today but be equally dismayed and amazed at how rapidly and unconsciously it came to pass. @@id6668
the truth speaker being the lawyer for Israel?
@@Peter-hs7zn did you listen to what the Isreali lawyer said or did you just want to listen to the pro Palestinian activist interpret his words for the entire video?
I’ve noticed some people questioning why nothing has been done in the past 75 years. Firstly, those posing this question need some history lesson. Here’s a snippet:
Every single time the UN attempted to pass a resolution against Israel to halt the construction of settlements in the West Bank and to prevent harm to Palestinians, the US vetoed it. The US has vetoed resolutions on Israel a total of 46 times. Now, go figure why no significant action could be taken in the past 75 years.
When a bully (US) rises to the status of a superpower, this is the inevitable outcome.
The rules of the UN need to be changed. And the UN needs to be moved to the Netherlands.
Netanyahu melakukan genosida ke Gaza. Tindakan Netanyahu sangat sadis. Netanyahu melanggar hukum hak asasi manusia. Dia mesti diadili di pengadilan International
You need to study history more.
Clinton offered 99% of what the so-called palestinians wanted, and it was turned down by their leader at the time.
@@71suns Switzerland rather than Netherlands. Switzerland is a neutral country. Netherlands is not. South Africa was colonized by the Dutch (then Holland, now Netherlands).
Did Israel also expect Hamas was hiding in the graves of the dead in the cemetaries that they bulldozed and desecrsted?
They had tunnels and an hq under the cemetery lol
Naah in the bakery
hamas was also in Shireen's grave, apparently
edit: also while she was alive, hamas was in her body i guess
@@thelemon5069Another Zionist Sympathizer has been Detected
@@thelemon5069 and when Israel loses the case, they will also claim that it was because Hamas had tunnels and a HQ under the ICJ's courtroom.
Living in a world where evil 😈 is called good and good is called Evil....God is coming to confront this evil soon and very soon and the world 🌎 will shake!!! Watch the pace!!!
I agree this is so mixed up if people will just turn back to the Lord God
@@ritafouche1748you dont need god to know right and wrong.
I have no hope whatsoever and hope that i am proven wrong.
@@fricholas7608
Agreed
Are we heading for Sodom and Gomorrah? Don't look back!
I appreciate South Africa for standing up for us and doing what no one else was willing. The Israeli soldier that killed my aunt Huda Hawarjeh in Aida Bethlehem smiled on camera and said he was purifying the land. The CBC covered this interview but I also uploaded here to my channel on youtube for the world to see. I hope that one day all Palestinian refugees can return to our homeland and have peace equality of value and voting.
I am so sorry for what you and your family went through and still go through right now.
You should submit that video to the ICC. They have a form you can submit evidence to.
I pray for you brother.
Land is being purified thank God
@@Tyiion I agree. This sort of thing is probably important evidence and every bit will likely help.
A defence full of dishonesty and whataboutery
Did you expect anything else? Seriously, what did you expect? 🤔
@@paulheydarian1281 Exactly the defence they gave to be honest. I was actually waiting for them to mention Metro Terror Cities like the gobby Tzipi Hotovely came up with.
All narcissists have arguments of a 2-year old but still, they tend to be convincing in this stupid world. That's why this world is run by a bunch of them.
I mean they are Israelis so Are you surprised. I knew they were gonna talk nonsense
Basically the whole argument was “how dare you”
Evil prevails when good men do nothing
Sadly Hamas are not part of any solution in any way....
@@cyberdaemon Your lies convince no one here , move along now ….
@@cyberdaemonsadly you speak like a modern day Nazi
@@ZzXZ636And your Jew hate is obvious
@@ZzXZ636 What lies? All i said is "Hamas is not part of a solution". I NEVER made statement about Israel, the war or anything else. Or you just like putting words into peoples mouths?
Best Defense: "Biden said we could."
Case dropped.
Pumpkin, please let me know how taking civilian hostages is "resistance" and not terrorism.
"Biden said we could."
do you hear voices in your head?
What land do u live in?
John D’oh more likely 🤪 you’re definitely are not cool enough for a Mike drop. Bless !!!!!
@@HildaKeating
some "people" are really delusional, huh, Mahmud?
@@ivansherbinin Ah thanks for the praise and have a seat Ivan.
This is not just a case against Israel. The UN and ICC are also being put to the test, and rightfully so
She is attorney? I would not hire her to defense anyone else? Real estate attorney may be?
@@lilyannal5159 funny thing, SA wins even if they lose the case
@modafinil1015 Are we getting personal?
You can not handle the truth? I would say someone parents must have a low confident to raise a child not able to handle the truth.
She presented herself out as attorney, but she does not even sound like she knows the current case law. She can present herself as pro-Proletarians--not an attorney. I am simply asking ? and make statement based on my professional opinion.
@@lilyannal5159 good observation .. if she was a lawyer, she would have said "citing various jurisprudence or case law" because that is the language commonly used by lawyers, instead of just saying "citing various aaahhh arguments" like an ordinary layman would .. to me, she appears to be a mere media reporter ..
Still not to late to evacuate any civilians left after being asked repeatedly to leave by IDF. Why couldn't Arab countries let civilians in temporarily ? Egypt? Jordan?
It took a country from Africa to take Israel to task while all those "pillars of democracy" in the West are completely absent and silent on this genocide.
It is a SHAME of the West
There are crimes,rapes, murders corruption in South Africa , hypocrite
Do you guys think the war against Isis was the west doing a bad?
West always making such propaganda to have excuses invading other countries, especially middle east.. Lots of oil there 😅@@TheSuperbadkid
@@TheSuperbadkid well, ISIS didn't exist before the west (usa) went there. That's all I'm gonna say.
Seems to me like the defense they've put together is basically "nu-uh!", "they started it!" and "you can't do this"...
Compared to the airtight presentations we saw yesterday, this is pathetic and SO embarrassing for them.
If the ICJ fails to enact justice, it will be just as pathetic and embarrassing, and international law will mean nothing
Yeah this is a watershed moment for the court as well
100%
It's called western media... Shame to Israel and western media
This is not the first case for Israel, Bosnia had already tried to sue Israel in 2016 for its involvement in the Bosnian genocide! and we were dismisses on the grounds that this would endanger Israel's national security!
@@voice-i1o lick those boots harder but bibi still wont marry you
It is widely believed in South Africa that the case against Israel is funded by Iran. The ruling ANC was facing financial ruin, having been sued and unable to pay a substantial debt. A delegation went to Iran and quite suddenly the ANC's debts were paid and their financial woes vanished.
“Widely believed”. Now that's a lie.
"Widely believed" more like "trust me bro". What would u rather sit back and watch a genocide unravel, Michael?
You'd probably be on hitlers side during his Reign top ure fucked up.
It doesn't matter who funds the case, what matters is which side is telling the truth. The heap of evidence brought forward by the SA is overwhelming and the Israelis cannot deny it.
do u xpect d aparthaid west will help them
not this world fren...d west wil oni help their own
@@sofk7053you must have such a poor macro mindset if you think it doesnt matter who funds who
If the State of Israel is allowed to carry this on then any state can does as they please. That is what the State of Israel is asking the courts to have free reign over anything and anyone in their country with impunity.
History is happening on the front of us!!!
Correct 100 💯 👏
No, no rules apply to others, no to them. The only reason Israel has not been erased is because daddy US.
If Israel is found not guilty, this would be a terrible precedent. Any country would be able to use the same excuses.
Since when the fuck has world court become a thing
We live in a world where liars believe their own lies.
We should call that "The Dershowitz Rule."
It is absurd that these people (the left-wing anti-semites) are unable to recognize the images shared from both sides are of the same perpetrator! It is the Palestinians who shamelessly use their own victims and those they have created as pure propaganda, and that is literally disgusting for every civilized living being to have to witness.
Genocide and torture are not specific to Palestine; East Turkestanis are also being oppressed in China. They must be held accountable for this, otherwise every person may one day suffer this evil.
It's an eastern thing
@@Liberal676That’s far from the only place that *real* genocides are occurring, open, explicitly-intended murders of millions upon millions of people - but *no one* is protesting *any* of those in the streets, or taking *those very obvious* oppressors to the ICJ.
The *only* nation being so targeted - EVER - is Israel.
Gee, I wonder why that is.
Israel, America, UK needs to be investigated, prosecuted, sued
lol We the US owns the UN. Good luck chumps.
And the UN
Start with the common denominator. Freemasons.
AMEN 🙏
U.s and u.k is the root cause created trouble maker sure international law is working
About South Africa being the accuser of Apartheid, wait had we forgotten that they are the best example of Apartheid and what about other African country who killed and maim their own people because they belong to another tribe or clan.
@robertlanario *_ BANKRUPT ANC ( THE RULING PARTY OF SOUTH AFRICA) GETS A BOOST FROM IRAN
Very interesting!! Copied this from tweets doing their rounds....
Now it starts to make sense.
Bankrupt ANC gets paid by Iran to run propaganda interference against Israel.
If they hadn't and the Courts declared them bankrupt, the Constitution prohibits them from running for election.
So, they did this deal in an attempt to remain in power and in so doing threatened or risked disinvestment in our country by the US, UK and Europe!
Since the SA government has announced that they stand by Hamas, 1.4 trillion Rand in investments have been withdrawn from SA - Economist Magnus Heystek 😮
About 6 months ago an application was brought by a service provider who was owed about R 120 million by the ANC for the liquidation of the ANC. The application was due to be heard in November 2023. Earlier last year it had been unable to pay the salaries of staff for several months. The ANC was close to bankruptcy. (Sounds familiar? ... like the SAA, SABC, Eskom, Transnet etc. etc)
In October 2023, the minister of foreign affairs visits Iran. Soon after this visit ...
1) the government expresses solidarity with the Palestinians in a public display broadcast on TV
2) hosts a Hamas delegation in SA.
3) launch an urgent application to the ICJ, accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza. Just the preliminary application costs come to R 200 million for preparation and argument (the final trial will cost about R 1,5 billion.)
About 3 weeks ago the liquidation application against the ANC is confidentially settled (R100m) and the ANC published a statement that its financial woes are over and it’s ready to fund and fight the 2024 elections.
Get it? It is not rocket science. _*
I think you're missing the point. The fact that it's post-apartheid SA accusing Israel of apartheid that it is so relevant.
Why it was irrelevant, you only based that because it was happening only now, so the lives of the people that perished in Apartheid South Africa is Irrelevant today, why because now Blacks are the ruler and head of the Goverment, so Mandela is now irrelevant so you are saying..
@@cancerino666 *_ The SA government only did it because Iran PAID their debt (Of the ruling party ANC) and made a deal to take Israel to the ICC. Hamas even has an office in SA. Maybe the leaders are hiding somewhere here in SA? _*
I find these people completely delusional - they must think we are absolutely stupid.
They don’t care what you are
They think you are stupid and corruptable
They do!
They spoke like they were on i24, they expected people to believe them based on their words. They failed to prove anything at all in 3 hours apart saying things like South Africa can't submit the application because we are not at war together. Insane
Shut up, Israeli lawyers. Nobody is buying your BS anymore.
The gentleman from South Africa was properly looking at the Israeli ‘diplomat’ like something he would scrape off the bottom of his shoe.
Reads to me like you're trying to dehumanize Israelis/Jewish people. I thought leftists were intersectionalists/materialists?
@@BrutalistBoogie???
@@BrutalistBoogie🙄😒
@BrutalistBoogie oh look a soulless leech.
@@BrutalistBoogieplease don’t try your reductionist tactics. Can you try, just try be clever in your comebacks. 1. The comment was about ONE person, someone who is trying to justify heinous crimes. Don’t try pull this “persecuted people “/anti-Semitic card. 2. Where in the world is this a leftist issue? It’s about human beings across all spectrums having the decency to know that continued bombing and killing and injuries and withholding basic supplies (healthcare, water, food etc) is completely inhumane. It’s the one issue that the right and left are meeting on. At least those that are not under the spell of Israeli and USA mainstream propaganda.
Tired of the lies...the videos and the photos...their own words admitting their Genocidal intent.
You might as well get used to it. Israel is strong and smarter than any other country. They will continue as long as they want to
Yes.. something should be done about the situation in South Africa.
@@bazjones5282 Suddenly you people start remembering South Africa 😂. Isn't it hilarious 😆?
@@tauseefmd-oc7yz lol it is hilarious. When Africa thinks the world forgot what they did. Luckily the majority of the world doesn’t go to TikTok for information. Unlike the Hamas supporters
@@nealandersen4867It's only as strong as it's backer the US.
"The Nazis made me afraid to be a Jew and the Zionists made me ashamed to be a Jew." (Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor)
Israel's defense was the usual Oct 7 and Hamas - so as to smokescreen a colonial founding and subsequent slow ethnic cleansing through a 75-year occupation & Apartheid.
"Take the worst thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000 times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians" ~Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
Because they know there is nothing to defend. The whole world knows this is not self defense (that is aside from the fact that they legally have no authority to defend themselves against the occupation. They are legally allowed to END the occupation if they are attacked).
Land is being purified thank God
@@nbeizaiewho makes the legal authority? The non existent world court? Who tf answers to them? Tanks don't have to follow rules written on paper
@@Commenter002learn empathy
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“But the poor hostages” *proceeds to kill their own citizens while they are trying to be saved*
Do you condemn khamas?
"DTBM" channel~"What God says about Russia-- Nuclear war, Armageddon, Israel, Ezekiel and God's prophetic plan". Dr John Barnett a historian has an informative video with names, dates, events, maps since before Babylonian times including what all the nations used to be called along with each of their point of view at the time. Russia, Iran, Kurds, Medes, Persia, Kush, Ethiopia, Put, Greece, Libya, Egypt, China, Sudan, Gog, Scythians; thru the Roman empire up till today. If you like history, man this guy researched a lot!
I couldn't believe they claimed that Israeli hostages "were an afterthought" to South Africa - when the families of the hostages had to force their government to take ANY action to TRY and get the hostages back... If the Diaper Force wasn't acting on 'shoot-to-kill' orders, maybe a bunch of gems would be back with their families now...
@@fizzliebobit's called projecting in psychology. They do it all the time.
hannibal directive
You didn't want this "war"? It was imposed on you? So what are you doing in Beirut?? In Jenin??
Fighting terrorists?
No, why was Israel founded in a region that is hostile to them...🤔
@@MusehanaH it is hostile to them because they wouldn't live in peace with their neighbors, not the other way around.
Yes let's just forget what happened on October 7 because it doesn't suit our agenda.
Shouldn’t the un be voting on Hamas surrender and handing over the hostages.and stopping using the civilians as human shields 🤷
Poor israel. Have to endure these terrorist day out and day in for 75 years. And then West Bank And Gaza people dont askt hemself why they live in this condition.
Those Palestinian cause trouble and they started screaming
15000 rockets were fired from Gaza since the 7th Oct 2023.
Hamas is to blame for innocent and non-innocent Palestinians getting killed. Israel does not occupy Gaza although they have every right to since Hamas has attacked Israel for over twenty years .
How is Hamas following the "rules" by using civilians as shields?
Damn Radical Islamists.... they are so evil
Only evil people can appreciate what evil people do!
Calling them animals is an insult to animal
Why Jordan doesn’t open their country to the refugees? Why none of the Arab countries want to deal with them? We need to think about it.
What is Iran doing in Syria ?
Iran has proxies in Syria
Iran Occupying Lebanon through Syria.
Syria has a border with Lebanon. And in Lebanon there is Nasrallah/Hezbollah...
I'm sure when Israel is done in Gaza they will deal with Iran.
West Bank and Lebanon going to look like gaza
Stop your lies and crocodile tears.
free israel from Hamas & Iran & Hezbollah
@@MusehanaH
Because it's the land of our fathers. Jews were expelled out of the region 2000 years ago and always wanted to rebuild their kingdom
Such is life, just as the human history has been, life goes on. Power to the rich and bad luck the poor. I was born into a world war torn, a child in the death zone, now I am old and the world is far worse then it was. Live as best as you can even if you're born into hell on earth then try to die in peace.
“We are not freeing Palestine; Palestine is freeing us.”
Nicole Jens
Great WORDS 👍👏
Yes! Absolutely!
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Mind Begs the Question:
- When Criminalized for calling a Govt/Nation Nazi
- Who use Starvation,Death Camps,Gas Chambers/White Phosphorus,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Living in Free World or Nazi World?
What the fuck does that mean???
They are cowards & criminals. How else would they defend without lies ?!
Because lies are all they have, all they ever have.
Leave Hamas out of this
I've never heard so many lies!!
@@fannys941yeah sorry. Thats how Sêfricans roll.
Western guilt... 80 years on... still going...
South Africa you have come to represent the conscience of the world. As a Brit I thank you from the heart for what you are doing. The legacy of Nelson Mandela is clear to see and magnificent to behold.
The conscience of only a portion of the world, I'm afraid. There's a minority that is still intent on keeping the Palestians in open-air prisons.
You're absolutely 💯 right.
Why are you not posting the Israeli argument and defense? We would have preferred to hear from the horse's mouth, not from a third party
The Israeli argument is that they are allowed to steal land and torture Palestinians for 75 years and not expect them to defend themselves
Because then they would have to face the actual reality of what's happening and they don't want that because then it would force them to put blame on non-Jews.
Exactly, all footage from Democracy Now, which is an unfitting name by the way, is biased pro-palestinian from what I see, and Israeli arguments might put a dent in their "coverage of the conflict"
what Israeli defense????? all Israel seems to have are lies
@@EthanBalkfield Yeah the genocidal military state's legal team is definitely where you're going to get the "actual reality." Not first-hand accounts from people _in Gaza, being bombed right now._ That's just propaganda, right?
It’s about time for justice to be served
"DTBM" channel~"What God says about Russia-- Nuclear war, Armageddon, Israel, Ezekiel and God's prophetic plan". Dr John Barnett a historian has an informative video with names, dates, events, maps since before Babylonian times including what all the nations used to be called along with each of their point of view at the time. Russia, Iran, Kurds, Medes, Persia, Kush, Ethiopia, Put, Greece, Libya, Egypt, China, Sudan, Gog, Scythians; thru the Roman empire up till today. If you like history, man this guy researched a lot!
The silence train is running overtime and full speed ahead.
South Africa should should show justice to its black people. They do not have standing here.
@@jamesraj6531What exactly do you have in mind? Please, describe very detailed what, in your mind such thing would entail.
Well for black peoples in South Africa many of them have land claims (the Khoi to practically all the land) and there are cyclical claims amongst numerous ethnic groups based on cycles of conquest and land possession. The precedent this sets though is interesting - SA is arguing genocide based on a 1% casualty rate (Hamas figures). In SA between 1991 and 2001, 2.2% of the Euro-ethnic Farmer population was killed (a figure greater now) ... will the SA government subsequently acknowledge that as genocide? @@dewalddewet759
They made children sing a song about genocide ,ethnic cleansing ,destroying gaza and broadcasted it on national TV .
No matter what they do.With US and UK support we can do very little
@@said.skopal Sad and pissed off
No. The Arabs have been doing that for decades.
I saw that too. Horrific.
What about mini mouse the jew in gaza
Self defense is off subject... The way Israel 'defends itself' is the subject.
facts.
well and u have no legal ground to defend urself from a people u oppress... 🙄
Well,they did a terrible job at it,so there
They're a belligerent occupier. They've no right to self-defense in the first place.
As a occupier you cannot claim self defence, that’s just ludicrous.
The irony the country that brought the suit against Israel should look at itself as the worst human rights violations taking place daily in South Africa against its population and how it treats the minorities.
Pfffft
Your gibberish doesn't even grok and is entirely irrelevant.
A kind of gratuitous ad-nationem epithet
It is obvious that the ICJ accorded the SA suit sufficient validity to hear the matter and rule in their favour on the provisional question.
Your opinion is entirely worthless and is tainted by your ideological mutations
I'm confused aren't the whites the minorities? Is that who you are referring to?
Zoinest defense attorney is worried about the 130 jew hostages but forgot to mention the 6500 Palestinians hostages in jail as we speak.
Also mentioning October 7th but forgot to mention the 75 years of commiting genocite in all the Palestinians villages.
Hypocrisy to the highest level.
It was to be expected. Israel is a machiavelian entity since Balfour, a trait in which zionists take pride.
75 years???? You need to actually read history before you open your mouth. You don't know what you are talking about. But hey maybe genocite is different than actual genocide. 75 years, how about more than 2000 years for the Jews to return to their ancestral homeland. Also, the UN granted the partition of the land. No one needed to relocate unless you chose to live in either Palestine or Israel. But instead, the arab league of Nations waged war on Israel and lost. The arab league of Nations told the "Palestinians to leave their homes as they would get them back for them. Instead, the Arab League lost. Then Jordan took control of the West Bank and Egypt took control of Gaza. They didn't create a Palestine with the lands they controlled and they controlled for 20 years.
@tsuiters Bla bla,bla...A bunch of Europeans Yearning to return home to their ancestral homeland, all revisionist Bullshit...There's no evidence of Jews attempting to return to their "Ancestral" homeland in the last 300 years, except for an American need for a Glorified Security Guard for the American Military Industrial Complex's interests in the Middle East...
Israel is an American Foreign Policy Construct, nothing else...
@@tsuiters come back when your balls drop and your mommy says you can leave your safespace
@@tsuitersyou’re halfway right but you forgot to mention how the Israeli people don’t have any kind of biblical, religious, or “dibs” type of rights to take that land. That land belongs to no one. Look at global history and see that how land exchanged hands.
When Irael talks about humanity it looks like a joke.
Hamas is a joke. Justice is a joke. You all seem to be on the side of terrorists. Remember, what goes around comes around. LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE!!!
Because it is
Yeah, Israel simply gives women and gays the most freedom in Middle East than any other Arab country, while Arab countries don't let women walk on their own under penalty of jail, won't let women drive, and will kill gay people. But Israel doesn't know anything about humanity. Sure.
And social media lets them post all that crap, but takes off everything about October 7 even the testimony from the hostages that were released
22,000 vs 1,200.
@@محمدإبراهيم-خ1ش9ح noodles
@@sayitloudblcknproud don't start sh*t won't be sh*t
@@محمدإبراهيم-خ1ش9حwe saw the videos uploaded by Hamas themselves and saw the celebration of the Arab world.
😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve been trying to get thru the live version of the whole ishrael side of it today but I was 10 minutes in getting second hand embarrassment. It’s a struggle to listen to the victim card , anti semitism side and blatant delusional lies they are spouting. I’ll get through it all at some point today
I state the same. Hysterical arguments, quasi inherited rights to step on other people's sovereignty and their eternal state of victim although they're wolves in sheep's skin.
I felt exactly the same way. I am embarrassed listening to Israel, it's like dealing with a psychiatric patient.
You have aptly described my feelings exactly. I could not bring myself to listen to the lies.
Odd that no Arab nation agrees with you enough to actually help the pallys
Listened to the whole “defence“... Was painful, boring and sleep inducing... I regret losing 3h... Nothing new same thing they said in the news, in their propaganda...
Gaslighting is used by defense attorneys to make the complainant appear to lose a sense of reality.
Eso hacen los talmudistas mentir
Well, those have experience in gas, gassing etc... if one can believe alleged reports from the past. Remember the remarks that the death toll during October 7 was worse and higher than in the famous holocaust times. One may ask oneself of the veracity of the numbers and statistics of both historical moments now and then.
please stop saying “gas lighting” its so over used and annoying 👎
Instead the defence lost all sense of reality 🥴
@@BA-pz3lo
The term "gaslighting" is overrated, supposedly it's a nice way of saying someone is a liar !!
As a South African I can hear them chanting South Africa Thank You 😢🎉😢
No joke, your country has got some leaders with integrity. Took guts to do this against all the Western world powers.
Isn’t South Africa genociding White people?
That's right and just.
For someone my age, watching from afar, what South Africa has achieved over the last 60 years to be able to be in this position feels almost miraculous. Incredible!
@@littlewoodimp🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Pretty sure innocents would not be killed if hamas let them leave these areas. And if weapon caches were not in hospitals and schools and homes
Finally someone who speaks sense
If such information is l available, then why did Israel not show it during this opening? If they had proof they only strike l legitimate military targets that would certainly shut down any dissent about their goals.
They came off as petulant children throwing a tantrum crying "How dare you question us!?"
Yes! And they could return the hostages... and/or the people who killed them for Israel to take to court.
And don't forget the tunnel
Well said! Thank you!
I love how the South African lawyer at 2:20 is just dumbfounded by the Israelis ability to lie so blatantly.
Watched it live and when I saw that look and then the person representing Israel turned around like how dare u look at .e like that.
Checking 2:20 😮
@longshank59 Yep... That's the "yoooou muddafukka" face 👍🏻
Because they know there is nothing to defend. The whole world knows this is not self defense (that is aside from the fact that they legally have no authority to defend themselves against the occupation. They are legally allowed to END the occupation if they are attacked).
Concentrating on looks and ignoring facts and documents presented😂....Next thing will be OH THE ICJ BIASED 😂
The result of this international court is not important; of course, it matters. But the mere facts that the Israeli government has to answer for what it has done, and that a lot of discourse will be circulated against them are themselves victories that humanity has achieved! I am not South African, but I do commend and praise all the people who filed this law-suit against this bully.
Thanks for saying this . I do not know if they will rule fairly but the world can hear what monsters they are at least . We will never forget .
I take away from this my love of what Assad of syria did to the Palestinians, whet the Jordanians did, what the Kuwaiti's did, they understood what the palestinians are capable of
Well as someone who is using my country's flag on your profile, you better care about what's happening in South Africa. 23 children died in one province of starvation and our country has food and is not poor. Only 1/4 of our population earns enough to pay taxes and it's our tax money that is being used to fund this legal attack on Israel. And it's not because we don't have employment. It's because our government is comprised of a political party that is corrupt and does everything in its power to destroy our country. Now I hope you protest the corruption in South Africa... That man you see on TV with the bald head is our Minister of Justice but there's hardly any justice in South Africa - we possibly are the most violent country in the world if you add up the child rapes and abuses, rapes of women, just general violence and the fact that our citizens hire private security because the police are corrupt and don't come if you call. But you don't know all of that. You just glad you get to sit at home and clap.
You must be white to sit back and relax and say..the outcome of the case is not important. Your reason too is quite hollow.
@@johnsmith-if6yc Stop diverting from who is doing the killing - the apartheid state of Israel .
Sometimes I wonder if these Arab nations have any real beef against Isreal or if it is just like a hobby that they have grown up with.
70 years of seeing other arabs being opressed will do that to someone.
The only beef is that Isreal is on Palestinian land
Self defense should not ever excuse genocide and should not stop justice for genocide
Since they defending themselves, how many Hamas fighters they killed? But we know of 20,000 plus women n children dead! What about their own they killed and blame hamas? Where is d evidence of rape, cutting off heads they claim? I want evidence bring it up in court!
Agreed 🇨🇦🍉💯
Because it isnt genocide, this will be thrown out of court soon.
@@Rojbbrk did you actually listen to yesterday's arguments and supporting evidence though? They clearly point out in at least four areas that they are committing genocide with evidence of videos and data. Even using Israel's own public speeches and talks where they incriminate themselves even but stating in words that they wish to wipe out Palestinians and that not a single Palestinian (including children and newborns) are not innocent.
It’s not self defense they’ve been doing this for a while
I think they should have brought Piers Morgan, so he could ask the Hague to condemn Hamas.
yeah he is a pro no doubt
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The court itself is also on trial it needs to do its work the world is watching
South Africa please relax and leave Africans out of this..
Israel cannot defend itslef in this matter; their guilty!
Only two nations have ordered brutal attacks on babies that is Gaza an Africa
It's "they" not their. But Israel is not guilty but if you wish? Israel can try harder
Not "Israel," it's Netanyahu and the soldiers (not all of the soldiers). Let's not get this twisted. The families of the Jews who were killed or taken hostage by Hamas, want a ceasefire as well and believe in the freedoms of Palestinians. It's like saying "Palestine" attacked, killed, kidnapped, and brutalized the Jewish people on Oct 7th. It wasn't the Palestinians-it was Hamas. Choice of words are paramount here to prevent hatred.
so I have no right to speak about the hypocrisy? lol China is committing genocide on a grand scale they have whole departments on murdering millions of ethnic Chinese. They kill these people and take they’re organs and harvest them to sell thats why it takes only 2 weeks to get dam heart liver kidney or any organ body part is such a short notice because they’re killling people and yes they are people why you treating them differently? They destroyed theyre culture,religion, they’re way of life and took theyre land. But now they’re in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, slave labor factories and in prisons for their political or religion beliefs and they’re harvesting them. Africa is part of brics alliance and is more friendly with China than USA. So ofc Africa would pull a move like this an ally of the USA but are silent with China lol
@@branevans3705 so I have no right to speak about the hypocrisy? lol China is committing genocide on a grand scale they have whole departments on murdering millions of ethnic Chinese. They kill these people and take they’re organs and harvest them to sell thats why it takes only 2 weeks to get dam heart liver kidney or any organ body part is such a short notice because they’re killling people and yes they are people why you treating them differently? They destroyed theyre culture,religion, they’re way of life and took theyre land. But now they’re in CONCENTRATION CAMPS, slave labor factories and in prisons for their political or religion beliefs and they’re harvesting them. Africa is part of brics alliance and is more friendly with China than USA. So ofc Africa would pull a move like this an ally of the USA but are silent with China lol
They look very guilty, they can deny their crimes, but their faces say it all!
Israel is like the Anakin Skywalker of countries: they've become the very thing they swore to destroy. 😢
I am not even sure if they ever wanted to "destroy" genocidal people. The more I hear from those morally corrupt politicians and read about people like Golda Meir etc. the more I believe that they interpreted the words "never again" as "never be the victim again, under no circumstances."
They never swore to destroy anything besides Palestinians. Zionism is an evil ideology.
They ARE the very thing they swore to destroy.
Lol poor comparison. Israel has always been "The Emperor" 😂
how do you figure? .. is it because they don't succumb to bullies ?
If they had released this in a movie I would have found it humerous in a way similar to "The Castle" court case.
The international community IS SHOCKED everyday by Israeli barberism.
They choose to be .....because they don't care about the Ukraine, Yemen or Amenia where actual Genocide is occurring. It's called Hypocrisy.
Occupation and imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people has been ongoing for decades by the Zionist government of Israel
South Africa has giving me hope that humanity is still alive. History will remember you. Thank You.
LOVE IS THE SOURCE
PaulTeich©10/31/2023
This poem is about talking to God about love
Love is the source of all things
You are the source of all things
We can feel your love
Can you feel ours?
We can see examples of your power
Can you see ours?
Are ours destruction or planting flowers?
How do you view us from your ivory tower?
What keeps evil at bay?
Is it a spell and apple and leaf of bay?
Is it an old fashioned ruler who thinks she’s a Bey?
Or is it the simple acts of simple people taking care of each other day by day?
You have given us love to turn Earth into Eden
You let us know we were without true gnosis with the apple Adam had eaten
Letting us know we get intrinsic worth from giving a rib and not from beating
Please take away indifference, give us peace and make us care if everyone is eating
Love is the source
Whether it comes from you or me, love takes us to heaven on a winged horse
May peace, love and poetry save the world!!!
The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.
Albert Einstein
Whenever Christians say God bless Israel, i would tell them God of Israel is USA, noone dare to answer a word.
Albert Einstein lived in Israel in his later years.
@@ancientcub3843 ik he was a zionist
Which still doesn't help us with the decision of which party to cheer for in this conflict!
At least I know for certain I won't cheer for some backwards-oriented religious fundamentalists, though.
@@HillelSabban Albert Einstein also said
“It will be my greatest sadness to see Zionist(jews) do to the Palestinian Arabs much of what the Nazis did to the jews”
i cannot understand how so many tunnels can be made inside Gaza without without the knowledge by Palestanian. Who are complicit in formenting conflicts. please help me understand
How tf can a burglar claim self defense???
Because the so-called burglar purchased that territory and did not kick anybody out of it. That's why 2 million Arabs are still living in Israel. Ottoman lands were conquered by Brits, who handed them off to UN. UN made a decision to give portion to Israel. It was a very very small portion. Less was given than actually promised. 85% of the land went to Palestinians. 90% of the land that Israel got was uninhabited.
South Africa is on the right side of history. True they may not have started this. They can however, not push the button to drop the bomb or pull the trigger on innocent civs. They are so brutal and bloodthirsty, just listen to Netanyahus cabinet.
But it is up to them whether to be a pariah state, or part of the normal international community.
I stand with Palestine 🇵🇸
Isra started it in 1948. An occupier can not act in self defense as it is the aggressor.
They definitely started it. It did not start 10/7
But it is apparently okay for Hamas to fire rockets on Sat. Oct 7th. You are nuts.
@@JesusismyRock773use your head dunce cap
@@vicious12394 they not only bought and paid for said land, they also fought a war to maintain it
Anyone stating it isn't their land is either a liar, or can't do the all of 2 minutes of research required to disprove their notions
You're either stupid or dishonest, in either case, your beliefs are automatically irrelevant
Free us all. Justice for the people. People power!!!!!! Worldwide!!!
Exactly 💯 !!!!!!!!
well said
Thank you for your Information, May God blessed you and all people in Israel and Palestina. Peace come on all area in Yerusalem.
This is difficult because the Zionist regime wants to stand on the greatness of what they call "Great Israel".
Israel seeks to dismiss South Africa's ICJ case on the basis that South Africa hadn't sought sufficient engagement with Israel for it to be considered a 'dispute'
.. and then goes on to dispute all South Africa's charges
You would think the fact that they called Israel's Ambasador two times to a meeting ( with the SA government ) and then send him back to Israel would have been enough to understand where they stand . You dont ban an Amnasador for no reason .
South Africa should take care of it's own problems, of which there are many.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rqname them
@@JohnWarner-lu8rq exactly.
@@JohnWarner-lu8rqnope. SA should speak out for Palestine. When SA "deals with its own problems" the genocide continues.
The Israeli argument can easily be used against them as their genocideal occupation of over 74 years give more legitimacy under international law for Palestinians to respond to it with all legitime means including armed resistance then to Israel as an occupire who has an obligation to protect the civilians who are first second and third generations refugees of the first nakba AKA ethnic cleansing and colonialism and the own going occupation
It’s their land. It’s not an occupation. They are lucky that Netanyahu is being gentle
@@williamgullett5911When was Gaza their land? let alone all of Palestine? Because God gave it to them?
@@عمرعبداللهجندالله yes. If you choose to not believe that’s up to you.
in the last 75 years the palestinians have gone from about 650,000 to 13.8 MILLION, this has got to be the worst successful genocide on the planet.
@@عمرعبداللهجندالله There was never a Palestinians state. In 48, there were only 100k Arabs on this land which was ruled by the British. Learn some history, will you?
Did anyone notice that Izra-hell opened their rebuttal with a reminder about the holocaust - as if they have ownership of it.
The IRONY is. This is the court that tried Nazis after the HOLOCAUST Now Israelis are trying to defend themselves on Genocide IN THE VERY SAME COURT 100%Turnaround
Israhell is a one trick pony. Holocaust self defense antisemitism. But that pony is now lame from overuse.
I knew they would pull that card
They've been using the Holocaust to justify themselves for endless decades
@@MariaNI-yf1bzYep.
if Israel wanted to commit genocide, there would be a lot more casualties. Hamas wants to commit genocide, it's in their charter, has any charges from this court been brought on them
You don’t think more than 30,000 people are casualties? You want more? You’re so sick. On top of supporting Israel on stolen land and abusing Palestinians for more than 75 years.
israel is digging its own grave with statements like this... not literally... in the eyes of the world
They're destroying THEMSELVES.
In the eyes of people who already hate Jews. That ship has already sailed
@AdamYoung-nh5lm yeah…Israel is really concerned about what Mozambique, Algeria, and Ukraine think of them
What Hamas done on October the 7th was a genocide,and would still be going on today if Isreal couldn’t defend itself.FACT!!!!!
The irony of them claiming hamas's attack is genocide while trying to defend themselves from allegations of genocide when they have killed over 30 times more civilians is telling
LOVE IS THE SOURCE
PaulTeich©10/31/2023
This poem is about talking to God about love
Love is the source of all things
You are the source of all things
We can feel your love
Can you feel ours?
We can see examples of your power
Can you see ours?
Are ours destruction or planting flowers?
How do you view us from your ivory tower?
What keeps evil at bay?
Is it a spell and apple and leaf of bay?
Is it an old fashioned ruler who thinks she’s a Bey?
Or is it the simple acts of simple people taking care of each other day by day?
You have given us love to turn Earth into Eden
You let us know we were without true gnosis with the apple Adam had eaten
Letting us know we get intrinsic worth from giving a rib and not from beating
Please take away indifference, give us peace and make us care if everyone is eating
Love is the source
Whether it comes from you or me, love takes us to heaven on a winged horse
May peace, love and poetry save the world!!!
Please support my country South Africa for standing for what is right even though we stand alone, none of Islamic countries has showed support for SOUTH Africa in fighting for peace in the Arabian territory. We took this firm stand because we believe in Peace for the people of Palestine, down with Israel bombing of children who didn't even voted for Hamas leadership but they're collectively punished together with woman if this makes us enemies of USA then let be shame USA is not our God sanction us if you want for standing for what is right. Free Palestine, stand firm South Africa
Maldivi,Jordan,Turska,Palestina......
THERE IS NO PALESTINE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE???
We believe in peace but not with the white farmer 😂
South Africa isn't standing alone. Politicians won't say how they feel because they are scared of being bullied by Israel. See how many individuals worldwide turn up to protest and the MSM hide the numbers. Every day, we cry and pray in our homes for the people of Palestine. God will one day hear our prayers. 🇿🇦 is our torch bearer ❤ 🙏
No Islamic country supports you. I guess that Black Africans are not as well loved as they think they are.
They choke on their lies. Viva South Africa Viva.
Israel defence: "don't believe your lying eyes"
Lol😂
Posted unironically when the ICC refused to view or screen the video footage of Hamas’ rape, torture, kidnapping and slaughter.
@@mookiewilson4166 and they also refused to look at footages of the Israeli illegal settlers sitting on their sofas cheering on the Israeli army destroying Palestinian homes over the last decades; or Palestinian children being killed by the israeli army while cowering behind walls.
@@mookiewilson4166Using pornhub videos as evidence is not applicable.😂
What rape? There is no evidence of that@@mookiewilson4166
There are two scenarios: 1- They know they are lost so no need to do much or 2- They've already bought the court so no need to do much.
if it's the second one.... 😢
They don't have to buy the court. Look at the judges, where are they from? Mostly aggressive warmongering states and their lapdogs.
@@nivisalbahope not
You guys are so naive. I've lost all faith in humanity. Our government and the UK will not allow true justice to prevail. The court has already decided in favor of Isreal. I was watching the body language of the judges yesterday.
3- they don't care about ICG, never cared of international laws for the past 75 years.. Why now.. Those people have zero humanity and are zero interested in laws
This is insane, how can you equate self-defense and genocide.
Unfortunately Israel is currently wiping out a whole ethnic group?
the same way the germans did.
@@sabin97But the German Nazis didn’t say they were defending themselves against any aggressor when they sought to fix the “problem” of Jews with genocidally murderous precision.
@@sabin97 Exactly.
@@sabin97 and remind us, how did it work out for the German Nazis?
Proud of South Africa for standing up for humanity. Self-defense is not a reason to commit genocide. They have no defense against this damaging report. They need to stop using the holocaust as a defense.
Up until September 2021, the United States had used its veto power in the United Nations Security Council to protect Israel from sanctions or resolutions critical of Israel's actions at least 41 times.
Yes, US is Israels province and also in Israels pocket. What ever Israel does US accept it. Shame on you, land of the free.
Whenever Christians say God bless Israel, i would tell them God of Israel is USA, noone dare to answer a word.
It goes way deeper than this. AIPAC tried to pay 20 million dollars to 2 politicans in order to run against another politician. AIPAC also paid multiple members within the House of Representatives and the likes of John Kirby show that they are traitors and have a double allegiance for Israel. They all serve Israel.
@modafinil1015 I wonder why buddy
@modafinil1015 Must be really good to think everything you do is justified because your ancestors were persecuted. "Get a life" is what Palestine has been trying to do for 75 years
Israel used words like humanity, justice and self defence that they don't know the meaning of.
South Africa, who traded a White Apartheid for a Black Apartheid, has ZERO standing for calling genocide.
It's like whenever there's an organization in America with the words "freedom" or "patriotism" in it, you know that is some right-wing fascist ideology brainwashing organization.
Very hypocritical to call their actions genocide when all they're doing is respondong to hamas' attacks. Never have i heard of south africa world court condemn their own country's attacks from guerrilla. Genocide is attack from Only one group against another to completely exterminate, not defending yourself
i’ve never seen a dumber legal team, if you believe the israeli legal team you should donate your brain to someone who might actually make use of it. they didn’t say a single thing of importance, nothing to prove their innocence, all they did was talk about what hamas did while repeating the same old narrative which wasn’t even the subject of the case, the case wasn’t whether they can or cannot defend themselves from hamas and the case isn’t in favor of hamas either yet they didn’t show any proof that they aren’t committing a gen0cide, that one part where they tried to not take responsibility for their soldiers’ actions??? those soldiers were raised and taught to do what they are doing and israel cannot not take responsibility for that, are they punishing these soldiers who are doing acts that israel says misrepresent the “IDF”? NO because that would hurt their morale. oh and when the judge was like “someone mixed up my papers” or something like that… i didn’t think i could laughing while watching this horrifying case but i did, they can get credit for that. it’s really funny that they were incriminating themselves while trying to defend themselves. i don’t think anyone can take israel’s side unless they believe that israel is above the law. the whole thing was embarrassing for them because south africa showed so much proof and specified which laws and sections they violated yet all that israel did was just repeating talking points because that’s all they got, they presented nothing of legal importance, it was just like their usual media propaganda. how embarrassing for them.
There's nothing to defend against, since the case for genocide has not been made. It's a war and the pallys are losing
They too busy lying to the world and to themselves..thy gt no time for much else ..liars
Wow what a cycle, I remember the Boycott South Africa period, when we learned how to pronounce Apart Hate, and the colonial foundation of that cultural revolution. How refreshing to contemplate Israel receiving such a lesson.
Soy on steroids.
And how poignant that SAfrica gets to give it.
Why should Israel defend. Palestinians are the ones who should defend themselves as they have been suffering from Israelis for decades Genocide and terrorism.. Justice and Freedom for Palestine ❤🇵🇸
Are you upset our homeland is being purified? Why don't you go help Palestine fight
Unfortunately, the governments that Could potentially make it stop are on Israel side,its so frustrating,
@@Commenter002the land will be purified when illegal settlers are gone from the land and true inheritors of the land, the Palestinians are free in their own homeland!
@@Commenter002yikes
@@Commenter002 what a fascist thing to say.. U're not helping ur degenerate cause.
What the heck is SA going to do about stopping Israel from defending itself, are they serious.
Are you serious? You think killing over 30,000 children and women is “defending itself?” That’s utter bullshit, especially since Israel has been oppressing Palestinians and holding them hostage in Gaza for more than 75 years
SOUTH AFRICA...do not let Iseral get by with these lies...
This is kind of tragic and comical at the same time because Hamas and Palestinians are never allowed to take the stand and testify in the court throughout the trial. Palestinians have been always ignored and sidelined throughout history.
There was a delegation from Palestine with the South African legal team. The South Africans and Palestinians did a press conference together after the first day. The Palestinian reps expressed a lot of gratitude to South Africa and encouraged other countries to follow its brave example.
@@bogusmcbogus2637Good to hear.
Your comment is ahistorical. Do more research. At this stage of hearing before the ICJ, there is no provision for the calling of witnesses. Otherwise, nothing would have prevented the South African legal team from putting not just Palestinian but Israeli and expert witnesses on the stand.
So you want hamas, a terrorist organization, to defend their horrific attack?
Hamas is a terrorist organisation that openly promote the extermination of the jews from this planet. They shouldn't be allowed to take the stand. It's ridiculous that Hamas controlled parts of government is speaking about the number of dead civilians on the palestinian side. 1.They themselves have openly no care for human lives. 2.They are the reason Israel is bombing civilian areas by using these people as "useful idiots" storing and firing rockets from.
The loss of civilian lives would end if Hamas release the hostages and go fight the israeli army in northern Gaza. Basically start behaving like men instead of cowards.
COURTS are here to BRING JUSTICE for ALL INNOCENT PEOPLE START SHOWING IT DO YOUR. AGREEMENT with UNITED NATIONS AGREEMENT Thank you 🌹
So everything Israel was doing to Gaza before October 7th doesn't count
Yes don't forget the 75 years of Israel's actions in Gaza
So all the persecution of the Jews since 605 BCE doesn't count ?
According to isreal and its supporters no. The calendar started on Oct 7th apparently 🤣🤣
What Israel did to Gaza before the 7 of October?
@@Bnidb123 bot
They did not defend themselves. They deferred, excused, and blamed.
I watched it live and was like "sounds like gaslight and blame game from Israel..."
Did the court summon the state of Palestine for the events of October 7th?
Did The Court Summon The State Israel For The Event Of 28 Sep Killing People In West Bank
No, first they’re going to summon Israel for occupying stolen land and abusing Palestinians for more than 75 years
Hamas were behind the attacks on Israel on 7th October, not the Palestinian government, and now children are paying the price. Please shut up when you don't know what you're talking about, or at least seek education.
SA provided facts. Israel did not bother.
The world has always the duty to prevent a possible genocide.
Listening to these colonisers is painful
The victim became the attacker. The oppressed became the oppressor. Lessons have not been learned. The eventual outcome will be another page in history.
🇿🇦🕊️❤️🇵🇸🕊️ thanks you South Africa Love you
love you South Africa 🇿🇦💗💗💗🇵🇸❤️
We have seen it with out own eyes. There is no denying what they are doing, what they say and their intentions. Of course they will deny it. There must be consequences for the brutality towards Palestinians for decades.
This is so extraordinarily biased against Israel, Amy Goodman should be embarrassed to present this "correspondent" as a journalist. I watched the hearing so I know how distorted this is.
Not self-defence but war crime!
Thanks you South Africa ❤️🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦❤️
If the court affirms the argument that a well funded military can use any force it deems necessary to oppose an underfunded resistance to occupation force in the name of self defense, then it follows also that that resistance force must be allowed to use any means in its limited arsenal in the name of self defense. What this argument does is make law a question of "they did it, so we can" and it becomes an issue of whoever has the greater force wins. Might as well just get rid of the court and leave the status quo of might makes right intact, and we will see more killings around the world go unpunished.
Great defence to the court to say that you believe you are in pre-historic times of all means permitted. Then also attacking SA team as connected with Hamas. Incredibly manipulative, repeating nonsense hoping that something will stick.
@@marcinbenedek789yes, I wonder if they realize how racist they sound?
@@timmoore3188 They don't. They have lived in a bubble for decades. Their legal presentation was so pathetic precisely because they did not take South Africa seriously and that was probably because Israelis are racist people.
@@marcinbenedek789 You should read and read again before you criticise someone.
@@BobOortdid you read Ilan Pappe’s Ethnic cleansing of Palestine? If not, let me know when you finish and we can continue, very best
Diala unfortunately forgot to mention the most compelling legal case against Israel's claim of self-defense, that as an occupation force, it has no right to use the claim of self defense.
So many non arguments when Israel funded Hamas
Right? You can’t fund the enemy and say they’re still an enemy no sir their accomplices 😂
YES! I don't think that was actually mentioned in the statements?!?!?
We are with you South Africa from 🇰🇪
Wrong is wrong. In the end, God will bring His wrath, even if IJC doesn’t rule against them. God chastises His children, especially if they’re unrepentant.
Correct, if they call themselves the “chosen people of God” then surely God will ensure that they will receive the highest punishment for their UnGodly actions.
Zionists tend to despise the Jewish religion. Just using it to guilt trip the world for the Nazi genocide. Unfortunately, this tends to backfire on Non zionist Jewish communities.
Don’t do that.
Zionists dont believe in God.
@@Ntsmith4satan's children can never be God's children. They are are just portraying themselves as such, I will never recognize them as God's chosen. There is no difference between them and the homosexuals.
Simply ask francophone African nations who France actually is, the oppression and genocidal France had inflicted on those African countries!