@@GavinskisTutorials I started my quarantine beard later than most - I'm going for that biker-meets-hobo thing 😅. This was a pet project I've had in mind for some time but finally got around to filming it.
Duuuuuuuuude! The jolly handsome axe murderer beard is looking absolutely dashing! You really have a great feel on the leccy piano man. I’ve often thought about this concept for a video because I do love a Rhodes sound. But I’m not qualified to make it so I’m glad you did and you made a 1st rate job of it. Stage Mark 2 sounded best to my ears. I have Neo-Soul Keys 2 but often use House 1 instead because it sits in a mix so easily. Love your videos Dave Man!
Thanks Davey! We appreciate you trying out HOUSE MARK I. The low volume is intentional. KG & Henny like lots of headroom to go into an SSL board. It's funny, beta testers like Jordan Rudess & Justin Gilbert thought the output was still too hot. I guess everyone wants different output levels 😂
Hey - thanks for filling in some additional detail, Matt! I figured there was a reason as Henny doesn't strike me as someone to make a choice like that lightly. Each app here has advantages and tone-sets that the others don't. And hey - we DEFINITELY need more Rhodes in the world! ;)
Perhaps there could be a Hi / Low parameter setting for each gain stage? So for example the pre amp could be cranked up but leave the final stage lower with more headroom?
@@RevellingTerror I agree - I see the utility in having a lower gain stage for outputting from the iPad, but I'm only using it internally on the iPad, so to have it be comparable in gain to the other apps would be helpful. Thanks for the suggestion, James - hope you're hanging in there, my friend!
Yes indeed buddy, I miss playing live but it's been great to have more time to spend with the family and also got some time to finally fix that shed roof! lol
Amazing job, Davey!!!! In last few weeks Electric Vintage was my favorite. You made great thing with the NSKS2! The first one I like most. Great comparison of the higher end! But now Colossus got a lot of bug fixes, so I'm spending some time on checking it. And now's the next thing: responsiveness. I use StudioLogic SL88 Studio keybed, which seems to me the best solution (weight of the gear is important to me too), and now there are some factors like latency, and even more important, the feel! That's the reason, why I'm still tring the Colossus Electric Pack - because with this hard/software combination (all apps thru Keystage) gives me feel even better than my formerly owned Rhodes (may be not the best production piece). Greetings! P.S. Colossus is opposite to House. In AUM I used to attenaute it ca. -9 dB.
Great video, I really love these hands-on comparisons! EV is my favorite and my go-to app whenever I want a Rhodes sound to play live. In mixes, NSK is a beast that is difficult to beat as it offers really many different flavors that you don't really need to tweak your sound so much. Vtines has a price tag that at the moment, for me, is a little bit overpriced. Anyhow, thanks again for the nice video! Grazie mille e buona Pasqua!
Fair enough - each user has to determine what they need out of each app. The goal here was to simply show off the tone-sets of each app as compared to each other.
I used NSKS2 with AUM and Keystage, and now with the Keystage exclusively. Never crashed. Write to BM3 developer, send him crashlogs - if possible; I think here's a problem, incompatibility between apps.
This is a very considered comparison and I appreciate you not holding back on your preference. I recently made a video where I played House: Mark 1 alongside my 1978 Rhodes Mark 1 th-cam.com/video/ZFtmV8hF8pMg/w-d-xo.html Spoiler alert: unless you get really analytical about key release noise and velocity response, the two are sonically not so far apart. So I think your Rhodes-off reinforces that there’s more to a subjectively good Rhodes sound than authenticity alone.
I agree - it all boils down to personal taste. In the same way that same model cars drive different or same year guitars have different shades of tones, so do electric pianos. They all have a personality, so you have to find the one that fits your mood/preference. I'm sure I could get over the low gain output of House Mark I, but the weird velocity layers were the main turn off, It doesn't suit my sloppy, slap-at-the-keys playing but that's OK. None of these are unusable, and clearly Henny & Co. had a specific use case for their app, so they designed it in kind. I just want to be able to show these next to each other as for me it's the best way to know which I prefer. I can't tell the difference in two different bourbon whiskeys until I try them right next to each other - EPs are similar.
@@DaveypooMMM thanks for your message. I miss a bit of warmth in nsk2, i tried a lot of presets and tried to tweak but didnt succeed. I will give vtines a try.
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Wow, nice work on the timestamps Dave, I know what a pain in the arse those are to do. I'm going to be digging into this later today for sure, thnx!
As a fellow beardie, I'm digging the beard by the way 👍
@@GavinskisTutorials I started my quarantine beard later than most - I'm going for that biker-meets-hobo thing 😅. This was a pet project I've had in mind for some time but finally got around to filming it.
Learned a ton as always! David is always a fountain of knowledge :)
Right back atcha!
I’m very impressed with Vtines too, and the controls allow a large amount of versatile tones. Great overview!
Yeah, VTines is REALLY impressive Glad you liked the video!
Duuuuuuuuude! The jolly handsome axe murderer beard is looking absolutely dashing! You really have a great feel on the leccy piano man. I’ve often thought about this concept for a video because I do love a Rhodes sound. But I’m not qualified to make it so I’m glad you did and you made a 1st rate job of it. Stage Mark 2 sounded best to my ears. I have Neo-Soul Keys 2 but often use House 1 instead because it sits in a mix so easily. Love your videos Dave Man!
I'm the Keith Richards of Electric Piano!
Thanks Davey! We appreciate you trying out HOUSE MARK I. The low volume is intentional. KG & Henny like lots of headroom to go into an SSL board. It's funny, beta testers like Jordan Rudess & Justin Gilbert thought the output was still too hot. I guess everyone wants different output levels 😂
Hey - thanks for filling in some additional detail, Matt! I figured there was a reason as Henny doesn't strike me as someone to make a choice like that lightly. Each app here has advantages and tone-sets that the others don't. And hey - we DEFINITELY need more Rhodes in the world! ;)
Perhaps there could be a Hi / Low parameter setting for each gain stage? So for example the pre amp could be cranked up but leave the final stage lower with more headroom?
@@RevellingTerror I agree - I see the utility in having a lower gain stage for outputting from the iPad, but I'm only using it internally on the iPad, so to have it be comparable in gain to the other apps would be helpful. Thanks for the suggestion, James - hope you're hanging in there, my friend!
Yes indeed buddy, I miss playing live but it's been great to have more time to spend with the family and also got some time to finally fix that shed roof! lol
@@RevellingTerror Yeah - gigs... Those were fun, weren't they? I remember them fondly... 😢
Amazing job, Davey!!!! In last few weeks Electric Vintage was my favorite. You made great thing with the NSKS2! The first one I like most. Great comparison of the higher end! But now Colossus got a lot of bug fixes, so I'm spending some time on checking it. And now's the next thing: responsiveness. I use StudioLogic SL88 Studio keybed, which seems to me the best solution (weight of the gear is important to me too), and now there are some factors like latency, and even more important, the feel!
That's the reason, why I'm still tring the Colossus Electric Pack - because with this hard/software combination (all apps thru Keystage) gives me feel even better than my formerly owned Rhodes (may be not the best production piece).
Greetings!
P.S. Colossus is opposite to House. In AUM I used to attenaute it ca. -9 dB.
Unfortunately I don't have Colossus, so it wasn't one I could compare but I'll have to look into it. Glad you liked the video!
@@DaveypooMMM Video is simply excellent!
Great video, I really love these hands-on comparisons! EV is my favorite and my go-to app whenever I want a Rhodes sound to play live. In mixes, NSK is a beast that is difficult to beat as it offers really many different flavors that you don't really need to tweak your sound so much. Vtines has a price tag that at the moment, for me, is a little bit overpriced. Anyhow, thanks again for the nice video! Grazie mille e buona Pasqua!
Sono d'accordo - NSKS2 è ancora il re perché ha tutti i toni. Prego - Buona Pasqua a te!
I like House Mark I the best because it is more manageable in the mix. I wanna be able to add effects without it distorting so quickly.
Fair enough - each user has to determine what they need out of each app. The goal here was to simply show off the tone-sets of each app as compared to each other.
@@DaveypooMMM and that you did well.
You left out the Korg Module Pro one. Lol
I don't own Korg Module, so it's not one I could compare. Sorry!
Neo Soul Crashes the most too. I love the sound but that crashing drives me nuts.
I've never had an issue with NSKS2 crashing on me, but I can see how that would be a deal breaker for sure.
@@DaveypooMMM It happens often in Beatmaker 3. It maybe BM3 but I use other apps in BM3 and I have no issues.
I used NSKS2 with AUM and Keystage, and now with the Keystage exclusively. Never crashed. Write to BM3 developer, send him crashlogs - if possible; I think here's a problem, incompatibility between apps.
This is a very considered comparison and I appreciate you not holding back on your preference. I recently made a video where I played House: Mark 1 alongside my 1978 Rhodes Mark 1 th-cam.com/video/ZFtmV8hF8pMg/w-d-xo.html Spoiler alert: unless you get really analytical about key release noise and velocity response, the two are sonically not so far apart. So I think your Rhodes-off reinforces that there’s more to a subjectively good Rhodes sound than authenticity alone.
I agree - it all boils down to personal taste. In the same way that same model cars drive different or same year guitars have different shades of tones, so do electric pianos. They all have a personality, so you have to find the one that fits your mood/preference. I'm sure I could get over the low gain output of House Mark I, but the weird velocity layers were the main turn off, It doesn't suit my sloppy, slap-at-the-keys playing but that's OK. None of these are unusable, and clearly Henny & Co. had a specific use case for their app, so they designed it in kind. I just want to be able to show these next to each other as for me it's the best way to know which I prefer. I can't tell the difference in two different bourbon whiskeys until I try them right next to each other - EPs are similar.
Neo soul keys 2 is not warm enough, number one is better nsk1
I've not compared NSK 1 vs NSK 2, however I prefer the versatility of 2. Lately I get most of my Rhodes needs met with VTines
@@DaveypooMMM thanks for your message. I miss a bit of warmth in nsk2, i tried a lot of presets and tried to tweak but didnt succeed. I will give vtines a try.
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