Burning Man 2024 Ticket Fiasco
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- WTF? Tickets available at the gate!? Not since 2011 has the Burner community been in this situation. What is happening!?
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2010 was my last burn. If I had known tickets were more affordable now and easier to get, I would have attended. But, it became so difficult to get tickets and such an elitist event, it lost something of the original vibe.
Seems like that's still going on but its cheaper.
“Everyone is doing the best they can”
This is a great mantra, whether you are buying tickets for an event, frustrated at the grocery store after a long day at work, or on the last day of a long festival. Great words and video dude
YES! Assume good intent. Have compassion for yourself and others. ((HUG))!!!
Need a few more years of this. How nice that it only took 12 years for the novelty to wear off!!
Best thing that could happen to Burningman is that it has stopped being "cool"
YES the more uncool it is, the better
now its content
they say now are too many influencers making viral videos
Yes: make it about self reliance art and bringing the ten principles to the default again!
Sending out Positive Vibes to all that can make home to Burning Man!!!
Thank you!
I stopped going after 2010. For me, it was great while it lasted. Too much hassle now, too much money involved.
Sounds like the right choice for you!
This is a good year to gift your extra ticket(s) to someone who can't afford it. You'll have a profound impact on someone's life and you'll relieve yourself the burden of finding a buyer, and the remorse of not getting a full return on what you spent. It is a special kind of asshole that shows up to playa with unused tickets. Don't be that guy.
GREAT point!!!! I'll start passing that on.
Good idea. I've been trying on and off to get tickets for years! I finally spent $1600 for 2 tickets and a car pass this uear, spending money I don't have bc the site made it seem like I could return them or sell them rather easy. I wish I had the money to gift them. I tried to sell them, but we decided to just go a couple nights rather than none at all.
Maybe I'll get to go another year, but unfortunately it'll probably be several years or this might be a one and done. Boo
I wanted to go to Burning man for many years. I tried to buy tickets and was surprised they are that hard to get. As someone outside the US who dont know anyone important it looks impossible. I enjoy peoples videos there. I am sure there will be good ones from 2024 to watch 🙂
I try to assume good intent and went to the burning man every year until a year or after they became "non-profit".. I got to ask, what do the people get paid who now work for $$$? Used to be that most workers were volunteer and only a few got any regular money and it was capped at a very low amount. I ask this because non profits are known for paying bloated salaries to those working there and still keep the logo, "non profit". Then I have to ask, how did all those tickets get for sale at ticket hubs in recent years past for thousands of dollars over list price? and there were not just a few but it looked like these professional sales organizations had large blocks of them. How does that happen? And I have to ask, were theme camps with excess selling their excess for bloated prices and now it has backfired on them? The people have to know..........
The NFL is a nonprofit as well...
Yes, there's people actually like this. We used to call it Mardi Gras in NOLA, now its 24/7.
Larry would be so disgusted about what his vision has been bastardized down to.
BM is nothing more than a Coachella at this point.
Welll, I don't think that is quite the case. It has lots of examples of things not being ideal. But still MANY MANY examples of magic not seen anywhere else.
Living in Reno, we watch them come through. The experience they leave behind is overfilled dumpsters and trash all over the highway.
You'll find in life there is always something to complain and whine about. For the rest of us life is beautiful and burning man is just another part of it. Roll with it, work with it, fix what you can and don't worry, be happy.
I am so happy they opened it back up because I was able to buy a ticket and the scalpers charging four times the price are learning a lesson.
Yay! 1st time?
How much for tickets at reg price now dayz? I’m so far away it probably doesn’t matter unless it’s thousands of bucks like Britney Spear was hahahaha😊
Wonderful words. You touched me deeply. I wish your words could be applied to people in their everyday lives. Kindness opens hearts.
"Kindness opens hearts". !!!!!! Yes.
The real beauty of burning man is the lack of whining sniveling complaining negative people. For those of us who overcame the simple task of getting tickets it was a blast!
These are the duststorms, we as burners have to navigate. So well said, and a great outlook to have...to assume we all have the best intent.
Its so much more enjoyable than believing everyone is a jerk.
i am one of those with extra tickets. Choosing to gift them to people i know :D
Beautiful gesture!
how very encouraging and now i feel okay.. thanks!
I’m such a big fan of yours, Halcyon. Your videos helped make my first burn last year AMAZING. Fully prepared and loved the rain. Will we be blessed by your presence on the playa this year?
Hi!!! Yes, I'll be there for the middle of the week. (wed-Sat). Staying at BWB at 3:45 & Esplanade. My 1 event will be the Pink RIde Thursday at noon at Pink Heart (4:45 & Esplanade). and a gratitude circle friday 9:00 pm at BWB. See you at HOME!
maybe this has nothing to do with the weather/climate and more about the price of the tickets. That the market no longer can bare increasing prices to camp in the desert. Or perhaps a generation has passed and there is no longer extreme excitement around this event. Could be the beginning of the end. I don't believe things will get better next year.
You could be right!
No. It will get even better and more beautiful than you can possibly imagine. The only thing that will change is the complaining and sniveling will disappear by those who have never went.😊
there is NOT a CHANCE i would go..drugs sex poor choices even my girl WONDERHUSSY did not go.saw way 2 many fights and open drug use and sex party's NO THANKS...good video sir
One thing you overlooked is that Hollywood builds allot of art for BM, and allot of industry hasn’t worked in two years because of pandemic then strikes, so allot of industry creatives simply cant afford it this year. Thats at least 20K tickets if not more. Hollywood shuts down for BM.
All the art, every single bit is built by private individuals and Hollywood has nothing to do with it.
I love your message! These are the sand storms we face each year and be kind. Hopefully everyone going this year has a wonderful time ❤
SURRENDER feels like the core lesson of Burning Man to me... and life!
I went to BM in 2007, the year that The Man was set on fire Before the Saturday event. They were able to build something smaller and the Man who Burned The Man got busted...lol. My ticket was $48.00...!! It was interesting but certainly NOT WORTH the price of a ticket Today...ridiculous 😅
2008 was my first year, and I've only missed one since. Worth every penny.
Happy trails, good vibes, and burn on!
Embrace the absurdity! Love this message, John. Thx for the update on the ticket situation this year, and I hope you all BURN BRIGHTLY out there.
Thank you, Jedi!!! :D
Property owned by Black Rock.
Nonsense. Public land administered by the BLM.
Radical inclusion is amazing. We have been going for years. Personally my first year was 2004. Opinions are what they are. With that said after last year and seeing how people forgot the core principles this may be a cleansing of people that treat as a festival rather a living breathing community that comes together to recognize those core principles.
Apologies for the soap box.. but man changed my view of the world as a younger person so I hold it dear. Bring it to one and all!! ✌🏼🧡
South Africa our Burning 🔥 man is Afrikaburn
Peter Hamilton has been calmed by your words! My plans changed in the last 4 days and thankfully your wise words will carry to the Playa. All hail, Caleb! 🎉 😊
((HUG))
help me out.. its not on private land its on a old lake bed own by the state whats too keep from camping for free like on blm land park a 1/2 mile away amd just walk on its open desert?
The area of the event is reserved and permitted (and gated). You can camp in other areas of Black Rock desert at the same time, though.
@@HugNation thanks not that i would but i have been too events where they do it and the deserts kinda big
I got tickets really easy this year at below face value. I also live in San Francisco Bay Area so that helps but still.
People are experiencing free Burning Man everyday on the street.
Venice beach is the free version LOL
Well We Sure Found the Dust storms This year :)
This is such a beautiful message. Thank you
((HUG))!
How do people seriously get in and out from that place?? Can you leave early?
Yes! There are streets and easy access to every campsite. You just aren't supposed to drive after you park (until you leave)
For those into astrology, Burning Man falls on a Mercury Retrograde every year. That involves problems with communication, planning, predictions, calculations, and preparations.
Doh!!!
Wow imagine what kind of problems they would have if astrology was real.
Just wanted to say I'm not into Astrology, as I'm a hard-core causality-based Engineer, but I support your belief and right to practice Astrology.
@@blackibis6135 tbf astrology makes it trivially easy to manipulate women, so you’re correct in doing so.
@@christopherknowlesgross Bro
Thanks for the update.
And you left out the most influential part of this phenomena, the deluge which really dampened the spirits of the pay and play crowd and has scared them away. Who wants to pay thousands of dollars and have a survival event? I know true burners stuck together and enjoyed the camaraderie, but would you do it again?
Where are you camped this year on via? I want to come by and give you a hug.
3:45 Esplanade at Burners without Borders
I really appreciate your take on this. Yes, BMORG kinda failed this year on a couple of levels, but.. it’s not as if it was diabolical. I mean, these actions are obviously harming the org too. It was just bad, or, not-so-well-thought-out decisions. -- Thanks Hal.
Definitely causing lots of frustration. :/. Hi, Rand!
Isn’t there always a BM ticket fiasco?!
Every year
Consider that Hollywood has been shut down for two years and the industry builds and contributes so heavily to BM, thats a big load to the festival. Not as big a loss as loosing your home or biz, but many of my colleague simply cant afford it anymore.
Hollywood has nothing to do with burning man and nobody from Hollywood has ever contributed anything to burning man.
Excellent point!
So interesting to behold. Tix selling out was the worst. I used to buy mine at the gate and it was way easier
The scarcity impact was huge. I'm excited to see what the new chapter looks like.
This was the most politically correct telling of a problem I've heard in years lol .
attendees say so many influencers that dont make eye contact nor say hi
and only are there to make content
Please don't roll around in the playa it's not good for you. It rained yesterday be very mindful.
Burning man makes around $50 million in tickets and parking sales and people have to bring everything they need. Its a money thing at the end of the day and an economy that goes through phases. Tickets are very expensive and it requires a lot of time and money to prepare, for an experience, it could be a fantastic experience, but it is just an experience of immagination coming to reality for a short while. It is energy expensive. I rather give all of that, to Jesus, who unlike Burning man, never ends. The world is in too much suffering to spend time on this idolatory.
Agree with everything you're saying. At the same time a legitimate complaint is not "hate". Sending tickets out so late this year was a screw up and it isn't hate to say that. We're just asking that the problem is acknowledged, and something will be done to prevent it in the future. If we all just say everything is fine, then there is no incentive for BMORG to fix things. You can't blame BMORG for trying to unload their tickets, but the impact on some camps, that are out thousand of dollars, may be more than they can handle. Another consideration is how this will change sales next year. People will not rush to buy FOMO tix. Camps will not buy more than they need.
Agreed! The ticket situation is a nightmare. LOTS of people are getting screwed. And I would guess the organization is in financial peril.
As much as it isn't related, you can go back and look at what happened to NASCAR over the last 15 years. They went from peak sales, endless sell outs, and so on and then one day that went away. They had 50 sellout races at Bristol speedway, example... then one year they didn't, and suddenly everyone stopped having FOMO and just waited. Now events are selling many tickets last minute as people wait until they are sure the weather is good, etc. Many of their tracks, including Daytona, significantly reduced their seating capacity to try to create sell outs again. Now NASCAR races are just about at the level of show up on race day and buy a ticket.
Burning Man may have reached that point, and when you remove FOMO, it will change how tickets are purchased and what their real value is in the marketplace. I can picture that for 2025, the early sales numbers will be a lot lower as there is no need for camps to pre-buy a pile of tickets, and that in turn will change other things. STEPS could get more restrictive or stop being meaningful.
At some point, the discussion of the ticket prices will come up. It is very expensive, very premium priced event that requires a big commitment in time, energy, and resources. Things are shifting, and they will need to keep ahead.
@@OldManBadly Interesting parallel with NASCAR! Thanks for sharing that.
too many humans that are too connected one cannot do anything today without lines ..hassles...etc
My friend would love to come but she’s having trouble finding a camp. Any suggestions?
You don’t have to be a part of a camp.
But The burning man Reddit has some camps looking for people. And some advice for places to look: www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/1d2wpbj/best_place_to_find_camps_with_vacant_spots/
or this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/548672747434819
I can’t make it this year, but definitely big FOMO on my end! I heard about how hard getting tickets are previously, and hearing that you can buy them removed a lot of buyer anxiety! I truly hope they keep the system like this until next years burn! Thank you for the message, treat people how you want to be treated
Golden rule is simple...but not always easy. :)
We tried for 6 years. I am on east coast which makes it harder to get involved.
This year we gave up...bad timing. Maybe next year.
all dynasties die nasty right. maybe it's missing the transition to 5th dimension and the age of Aquarius.
Tons of ice, a new sot or two, its the freaking desert ffs, with short lines, and plenty of fuel at Hell to keep the machine running. that seems paramount to me after 12 burns as mv and camp lead. I love you burningman with all i have, sorry if you are having ticke issues ORG but dont skimp here. Morale is key and these two tings are essential and shoul be boosted (ice) protected (hell), Just my 2 cents. Cant wait to see the fam regardless.
okay love this explanation
I couldn't qfford to go but a friend is helping me out. Ill pay em back
Burning man is what we live in full time now 😅
Achievement unlocked 🔓
Mad Max is next !
Thanks! This was such a helpful video. )'(
Thank you! Glad to hear that.
As someone who was a core member of certain camps being demonized over or reluctance to be injected with mystery juice as the main requirement to be a camp member. I decided to never join a camp again.
I'll be there but I won't be contributing to your camp.
That you didn't notice until this year is cute and unfortunate for you.
Great advice, as always!
I wish I could go but I can't afford the $785 for the ticket and car pass :(
Sh ee P l e fall for this ridiculous event of stu p i d i t y !!
Burning Man Incorporated.
One requirement though.
Are you afraid of mud?
Not afraid... but I'd prefer it dry. :)
Thank you
I think there a few factors like higher prices when sf tech is laying off or many, weekend warriors, and selfie obsessed Instagram/TH-cam "influencers", and to be seen celebrities and CEOs realized Burning Man takes more work, like self-sufficiency whatever nature throws at the playa. Perhaps there is a silver lining like more of those who come want to be part of an experimental community.
Typical large venues
Can we verify that it's possible to print your confirmation email, and receive tickets at will call. I leave for playa in 6 days, have early entry, and have not even received the email that tickets are being shipped, or even processed. I've contacted the org and asked to have my tickets sent to will call.
I don't have any official authority. But I have seen people share that information from their calls with the org.
People are broke…including me. As badly as I want to get back to the playa it’s just not accessible for me at this time. A lot of burners are in the same dusty boat…
Totally.
Yup, true fur internationals too… usually I would know loads of people going from Australia and New Zealand, but I know barely any this year
3:00 this is literally how the Soviet economy collapsed..
The good old days are back
Solid analysis. Great suggestions.
:D Thank you!
Good message! ❤
It appears that interest in this event has peaked. After 7 trips to the Playa, I've moved on to see the world. Money and time are limited. Unsold BM tickets make beautiful book markers. If you go, have a wonder-filled time!
Elite book markers! LOL. I think you are right. Enjoy the world!
My parents often said there is no bad whether, only bad clothes. Shake your fist at the clouds all you want, you aren't getting rained on any less for it. Carpe diem!
SUCH good advice!
meh. thats why i havent gone since renegade
I am curious about what the population will be this year. Any Idea? I wouldn't think it would be noticeable once there.
Not sure! Time will tell.
I hope for low amounts of dlot issues!
Ticket sales so far are over 40 Million dollars. Where is that money going?
public tax documents from past years are here: burningman.org/about/about-us/public-documents/
What’s price of tickets?
between $500-600
@@HugNation I seen a vid break it down just after I asked.Plus bus ticket or parking ticket.ect So it’s more than just gate ticket.Was attendance low this year?cheers!
but........ they're actually as dis-connected as ever !
Stay away from Sonya Sophia, cult leader alert....
This is Nek. Do you have any idea of how many tickets are unsold?
No idea.
They released the lineup to "market" is it true the fireworks at the man burn are canceled?
Im gullible
I have not heard that. I would be VERY suprised!
2 Tickets and a VP for sale 😂
Less free money out there
People have realised how satanic it is and rejected it. Praise God.
someone got a call from the Org lol JK John you rule
lol... did you see what I posted the next day? I've been pretty critical of BMORG. th-cam.com/video/C3YKyzMrXFk/w-d-xo.html
Bidenomics!)
Ah he speaks so slow
You can choose the speed 😅
I like speed
I think it's on its way out. Time to move it to Fly ranch. Our economy is in free fall. The expense to doing something like this has become unjustified. I stopped going because the BOrg and those attendees have changed an not for the best.
F R E A K s & O S E R s!
Well said )🩷(
Thanks!
Envelopes gonna be a little light this year...