How To Make Dairy Free Kefir
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ย. 2020
- I recommend using Sojade Organic Soya Milk and Grace coconut milk, both are available online. You can purchase milk kefir grains from happykombucha.co.uk
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Thank you very much. That was straight to the point. I didn't know you need so little of the grains to make it work.
Yes you really don't need many grains at all!
Super informative! Thank you!! I never thought of creating a salad dressing with kefir and a few other ingredients added.
Brilliantt, so clear and concise, thanks Janice X
Thank you & delighted my wee video was of use!
Great - Thankyou. I made vegan kefir years ago and have forgotten the process. Your vid. is a perfect reminder for me💚
Just discovered the Sojade brand! Love it! Really informative and interesting video! Thank you!
Delighted you found the video helpful! Sojade is my favourite soya milk! 😃
Thank you for explaining as you were showing us brilliant 💕
Great video! I had no idea I could use plant milk for kefir! Thank you!
Great video. I’m actually in the process of changing to non dairy as I have a bit of intolerance, but I didn’t know I could do plant base milk kefir, so your video was very enlightening. I have had my milk grains for over 2 years so I’m glad I don’t have to throw them away. Thank you very much.
You are most welcome! 😁
Hi, how did you convert milk kefir into non milk?
@@1lifemusings Hi. I tried with soya and almond milkbut it didn't work out. So I bought water kefir granules...
thanks for sharing this with us. What a relief!! there was me thinking i could only make kefir using only cows milk, which incidentally i am not a lover of!!
thank you this was very helpful!
Great to hear that, thank you!
Good stuff, well done.
Notes: Kefir grains. Use soy milk without preservatives and emulsifiers. Use coconut milk cans. Guar gums okay. Skin and gut health. Better than regular yogurt.
Hi , can you let me know where your purchased the flip top glass jar, I like the larger opening than most I have seen, many thanks
The kefir salad dressing with sundries tomatoes sounds delicious. Would that be an idea for another video? 😊
Yes it would be a good idea, but it's really simple, just blend 1/4 cup soya kefir with 1/4 cup sun-dried tomatoes, some seasoning, garlic and some fresh basil! Add extra soya kefir to achieve the consistency you prefer. 😄
@@janiceclyne7063 thank you!
@benourishedbynature could I use homemade oat milk? Wonderful video, thank you for sharing your knowledge :-D
just wanted to tell you that my effort is looking good, i got hold of a wee jar of kefir grains locally for free, 2 days ago, mixed a tbsp of them with about 1/2 pint of soya milk. Just checked and its getting quite thick!!!
That's great, good luck with your kefir! 😁
Can I use the small packets of freeze dried kefir culture and if so, do I need to warm the milk?
Thank you for the video!
I've tried to make a plant based kefir, but it was a disaster 😁😁 After watching your video, I can establish it was because of the additives in the soy milk. 😭
Thank you!
Yes the additives are a real problem for the kefir grains! Great you found my wee video useful! 😄
Is there a recommended portion size of milk Kevin per day it's so moreish
Can i use milk kefir from the grain??
Grains feed on sugar. How many grams of sugar in your plant milk? 👊
Hi, this is great, thanks so much. Can you use different plant based milks or does it have to be soya?
Also, do you need to have milk kefir crystals or can you use water kefir crystals please?
Thanks so much ❤️
Hey how do you store the grains after your done?
Try rejuvenating the grains in milk, rather than starting afresh
Can you use home made almond milk?
Do I purchase "milk kefir grains" even if I need it to be dairy gluten and vegan friendly? I understand there may be trace (hopefully trace amounts of lactose or dairy) Or do I buy water kefir grains and put it in coconut milk?
You can get milk kefir grains, but it would not be vegan friendly. Some people are comfortable getting milk kefir grains but only using plant milk to ferment. They may not survive though.
Some people successfully add 1/2 tsp date paste to 4 cups plant milk to feed milk kefir grains. The grains survive but do not multiple and the bacteria/probiotics may change if you do not replenish in cow milk occasionally.
Another option is using water kefir grains , fermenting with sugar water, and using a little bit of water kefir liquid to ferment plant milk.
This will leave you with a different kind of drink though with different benefits.
What a great video! Can I do this with almond milk? Honestly fantastic video!
Yes you can use almond milk but your grains will need to be refreshed in organic dairy or organic soya, since almond milk doesn't have much food for the grains & they will deteriorate over time. Coconut milk is good too but tins not cartons. Also watch out for additives, emulsifiers and sweeteners which can damage the grains. Stick with organic where possible. 😄
You say coconut milk is ok, but in cans not cartons. Yet you have a carton of it there that you’re using?
I just recently began making my own nut milks ( many varieties & blends). Can I use that to grow my grains?
Yes your homemade nutmilk should be great! It will be free of dodgy additives which can damage your grains. Good luck!
Where can buy the Provamel or the Sinai milk
is there any way i can stop buying milks? I dont want to drink substitute milks either...(and i'm vegan , so no dairy)....or is there a cheaper and healthier liquid I can use?
After putting the first batch into the fridge after it has fermented, if the second batch is ready to be refrigerated/eaten before you're able to finish the first one in the fridge, can you add the second batch of kefir to the first? Can you just keep doing this indefinitely? Also I've read a lot of opinions on how often to wash the main jar the kefir ferments in. Do you wash your jar at all, if so, how often? Thank you very much.
Hi there, yes you can combine older and newer kefir. The older kefir will taste a lot more sour so adding the new kefir should mellow it out. I tend to wash my jar a couple of times a month.
Great informative video! I received grains from a friend. She used normal fat milk to make her kefir. I'm dairy free, is that ok to use the same grains you think? Thanks!
its fine. allmilk kefir are not vegan in the beginning.
Isn’t it the sugar that reacts with the grains for fermentation process or is this not required?
The kefir community breaks down the lactose (milk sugar) into kefiran, which is the main component of the kefir grains, as well as acids and other components. I suppose you could wean the culture off the lactose sugars. Soy milk contains different sugars like fructose, galactose, glucose, sucrose or maltose. Lactose is normally broken down into glucose and galactose, so by using soy milk you may just be skipping the conversion step from lactose to glucose/galactose.
does it harm the kifer grains to strain it through a metal strainer
Yes I believe so from what I have been told. Metal kills the grains so have to use plastic sieve and spatula
Can I use oat milk, we gave up dairy a month ago and have been vegetarian for over thirty years. So we do not want dairy
Has anybody else commented on your lovely voice ?
I cud listen to you for hours
No, I'm just happy if people understand my accent! But thank you for your kind comment! 😁
@@janiceclyne7063 I have a confession to make, my mum was Scottish! So I'm bias. Please make more videos
Can you please confirm, did you say you added frozen organic Lemon peel to the final kefir?
Yes, it adds a lovely flavour! 😁
Hi, I do give agave sirup to the soya milk, so they can eat sugar.
My question is, how much g grains do you use, how much soymilk and fpr how long fermenting? my last batch was yeasty and not yummy at all
I tend to use a spoonful of grains to around 500mls soya milk & ferment for 12hours at room temp or a few days in the fridge. It thickens up really well and is always creamy & delicious. I don't add extra sugar, the grains seem to do fine in the organic milk.
Can I make the coconut kefir then use the same grains to make cow milk Kefir for my daughter? Great video. I was thinking coconut milk would be super thick and high calorie’s so great you mentioned to add water 👍thanks
Yes you certainly can! 😁
Hi. Where can I buy Sojade soy milk in Glasgow please. Thanks. We did meet a few years ago on one of your day courses at your home. Hope you are well.
Hi Janice you were recommended by a good friend as I have lupus & been ill with it. I've just started keto for the inflammation and wondered if you can suggest anything that may help. Many thanks.
Hi there, any fermented food will help with inflammation. Why don't you try making a simple sauerkraut with a tablespoon caraway seeds. Or try pineapple, turmeric & ginger sauerkraut, the recipe is on my blog blognourishedbynature.com
@@janice.nourishedbynature Many thanks. Im waiting on my kit to do your kefir. Is that fermented? The thought of sauerkraut makes me feel queasy lol but needs must. I could force it down as medicine. Really appreciate your help .
Kefir is the most probiotic food on the planet, so you need to start slowly with a spoonful to start with & see how you feel. Less is more for introducing fermented foods especially when you are dealing with health issues.
Going whole food plant based will help with lupus
Are the Kefir grains themselves Vegan?
I make organic soy milk at home from organic beans, can I use them to make organic soy kefir like what you are teaching here ?
Yes absolutely! 😀
Hello, is the soy milk unsweetened and if so, do you add any sugar to it to feed the grains during the fermentation process ?
Hi there you can use either sweetened or unsweetened, both work, the grains seem perfectly happy in both!
i add dates like you do with water kefir and it seem to love it. it grows so fast.
@@hackerprincess7138 do you add whole dates or date paste?
Im so excited to do this 😀 can I use milk kefir grains for coconut milk kefir? Will the grains loose strength an need soaking in dairy every few weeks or is coconut milk ok? If I need to refresh do I just soak them in dairy for around 48 hours?
Also how long will the coconut version last in the fridge once made?
Last question 🙋♀️😬 if I want to take a break from making it for a couple of weeks can I keep the original jar in the fridge as is without washing it as it will have the kefir grains in it?
Sorry for all the questions, just want to get it right 😊
Yes you can, they should be fine in the coconut milk, so long as it's full fat and not coconut drink from a carton. 😁
Just keep the jar in the fridge, no need to wash it. The grains are fine for a few weeks in the fridge so long as they have enough milk/coconut milk.
Thank you for this. I have seen elsewhere that it is necessary to recharge the grains in dairy milk fairly frequently because they only feed on lactose, is this true? It seems questionable to me. How long have you been using the same grains in only plant milks? I have always used Sojade for my yoghurt but have never tried kefir.
I use the same grains in organic soya milk for months! They seem quite happy! You can give them a wee boost with a splash of maple syrup! 😁
@@janice.nourishedbynature I thought it seemed unlikely. If the bacteria weren't living off the sugars (is it just sugars or also proteins and fats?) in the soy milk then it wouldn't work at all. Thanks for the response.
@@stuffandnonsense8528 Yes sometimes these wee microbes defy all the rules, and just adapt to another food source. The key thing is to use organic soya, it's the additives which damage & weaken the grains.
I want to use my milk kefir grains to make my vegan version of milk kefir from soy, coconut and almond milk. I have them in regular full fat milk so I am wondering do I rinse them with pure water or I do a batch or two with the nut milk so the milk goes away. How long can I have them with nut milk before I feed them to get strong with regular milk. I will appreciate your help and honesty so much. Is adding little sugar to the nut milk good for the carbs so the little guys can multiply :) :) Is a teaspoon or more best ??
You can rinse them in the plant milk but make sure there are no emulsifiers, gums or preservatives in the plant milks you are using. My grains do really well in organic soya milk but you could do a mix! Adding some date paste can give them a real boost but I've never felt the need to add it. You could add some sugar. My grains do well in purely soya for a few months then I usually use new ones. I make dairy kefir too so I always have spares! Hope that helps!
@@janice.nourishedbynature You are the very best :) :) Thank you for much for taking the time to reply to me, you have been super duper helpful. You have really helped like you have no idea and I am so ready to make my vegan kefir milk :) :) I am all smiles, sending you the biggest hug with much respect. We need more people like you in the world, will you make making an updated video or more videos on vegan/plant based recipes?? Thank you so much :) :) All the best.
@@miguelangeljimenez7399 Always happy to help! 😁
Btw take notice of what soy milk to buy!!!! I tried to buy cheapo, it was useless, ironically I found a health food shop selling organic soy milk for only 40c more than the cheapo one, and it was perfect.
So, do the grains ever need regular cow’s or goat’s milk bath to be healthy? I’m vegan and would be using plant milk for the kefir, but I’ve heard that the grains may need real dairy ?
The grains tend to deteriorate over time in plant milk and they don't grow, but they will make decent kefir for a few months. If you can't refresh them in dairy you could add another source of food for them to pep them up. A teaspoon of inulin powder works well or a teaspoon of organic mollases but that makes the kefir a muddy brown colour! Hope that helps. 😁
How long can you use this method before grains become depleted I have found that it works great for a couple of weeks then it turns in a thicker yoghurt type mixture very quickly
if your grains are depleted they won't thicken up your milk at all. Just change the ratio and add more milk if the kefir is too thick. Does it still taste good?
Yes it still tastes good I think the trains are multiplying more than few thank you
Yeah if you have too many grains either it’ll get super thick fast or there won’t be enough food for them and it’ll go watery
I want to purchase kefir grains from the website you suggested (happykombucha) but as a vegan, I don't feel comfortable buying dairy milk cultured grains. Will I be able to culture dehydrated kefir grains directly from soy milk? And if not, can I purchase the dairy milk kefir grains, and simply throw away the first few batches so there is no trace of dairy milk remaining? Thank you.
As far as I am aware all milk kefir grains originate from dairy. I don't know any companies who sell grains that are grown dairy free. I convert the dairy grains to organic soya so after a couple of batches they are dairy free but still originated from dairy so you may be best to make dairy free yoghurt instead or try water kefir.
@@janice.nourishedbynature I really appreciate the response Janice! Is it the case that dehydrated kefir grains were also once grown in dairy?
@@----m---- Yes I think so!
@@janice.nourishedbynature I stumbled upon the 'So Jade, So Soja with kefir cultures'. It claims to be the first kefir milk made entirely from soy. Do you know whether you can take several tablespoons from a previous batch of kefir and ferment a new batch with those live cultures? I wonder whether I can purchase this soy kefir and ferment future batches using the initial bottle. Hmm...
You could certainly do that for a few batches but I doubt you could sustain it long term. You can make yoghurt that way too but only a few batches then the culture is too weak!
My kefir made with Provamel has been fine for some time but suddenly gone very yellow with loads of bubbles, it doesn’t smell as good. Can you help please. ☹️
Sometimes the milk kefir grains just become depleted. You could try refreshing them in organic dairy for a few cycles or the only other option is to purchase new grains.
Hi there, would unsweetened almond milk work too?
The shop bought almond milk is generally too thin & makes very thin kefir. Best to make it with homemade almond milk which had a higher proportion of almonds. Also watch out for emulsifiers and additives which can damage the grains over time.
@@janice.nourishedbynature oh thank you so much. I'm on keto so thought I could save carbs but think ill just stick to the soya. Love your videos, thanks.
Thanks.
Very good for gut health….just check your stock of loo paper!
A wee query, should the kefir grains have a yeasty smell?
Yeast is a component of the grains Chris, so a yeasty smell is nothing to worry about. Sometimes the yeast/bacteria balance can be a bit out but so long as your kefir tastes good, that's the main thing! 😁
@@janiceclyne7063 thanx janice
mine always gets runny even though i make my own milk i guess i haave to make a thiker milk.
Just use less milk or more grains. What kind of milk are you making?
Can we tranform cow milk kefir into soya milk kefir? :)
Yes you can but remember to use organic soya with no additives. Sojade, Provamel & Alpro are all good.
Hi again! I tried to do it but it's very watery... Is it normal? How often should I change the soya milk? I left it for 2-3 days 😅🙈
Thanks in advance! 😊
Actually Kefir is not a probiotic its a PREbiotic, because it predigests for us. Doesnt make it less good, but I also just heared about it yesterday. :)
Kefir contains upwards of 40 probiotic strains of bacteria & yeast, it is the MOST probiotic food on the planet! The probiotics do predigest the milk, making it easier to absorb.
Heared? Heard
No sugar?
No none required, the organic soya milk sustains the milk kefir grains, but you could add sugar if you like or some inulin powder, which tastes sweet but is actually a prebiotic fibre!
@@janiceclyne7063 but there is no food in sugarfree soymilk for the kefir...
@@majvlierop There is no lactose for sure but I make consistently thick & creamy soya kefir without adding sugar. The grains must adapt to the soya milk. It has to be organic with no additives. It really does work well! 😁
Thank you Janice.
How long do your kefirgrains last? It seems almost impossible to me that they survive without any food to ferment
Unfortunately, the milk kefir grains only grow in animal milk, which I cannot drink because of the animal proteins and fats, as animal foods of all kinds are very poisonous and deadly for me. These kefir grains cannot grow and multiply in plant juices such as soy and coconut milk. Although they ferment those juices, they die after a few batches.
That is not my experience so long as the plant milks don't contain emulsifiers and preservatives which damage the grains! My kefir grains make delicious soya kefir for months on end. They don't grow like kefir grains in their natural food which is dairy milk but they do make kefir!!
Full fat cows milk best