Why RC over MC
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Best bet no RC no MC ride free no drama. It looks like a lot more fun you got a bigger team but where Im from cats getting shot for bs I can't get with that. At the end of the day Im going home to my family but I love to ride I don't have to answer to any1
Agree independent seems to be the way these days .. hopefully this profiling can be the thing to bring us together in some way
We are a RC, and we LOVE it. It’s more laid back.
Well my own opinion is that an RC is just a group of guys that like to ride and not worry about the politics of an MC to an extent. There are certain things that an RC shouldn't do as far as patch work to. They most definitely should not rock a 3 piece set up. Most RC'S don't prospect or pay dues. An MC is more of a commitment to your brothers and bike. Each officer position has a specific responsibility. As Sargent at Arms, I don't let the president out of my sight and my eyes are always on the look out for any trouble that might spark up. Now it is easier to transition from RC to MC instead of trying to start an MC from jump start. Not saying that an RC won't stand up to a threat but as a MC it's expected to ride or die with and for my brothers. Period!
That part love it thanks for your comment sir
I was a prospect in a trad. 3 piece club. Myself and another full patch who is local to me stepped away from the club. We are working on starting an RC with hopes to grow it into an MC down the line. As such we want to be selective on letting new people in. We won't call it prospecting but we are most certainly going to have some kind of trial period. 3-6 months. Whatever we decide it is going to be...
RC is consider as a neutral club. We are not governed by others rules. Although we respect and honor other MC clubs
totally agree we love the mcc role here in the uk as that differenterates us from the mc scene we get to support the whole biker set rather than just one main dominant, we are not being used as puppets fro someonelses gain etc specially when we wont get any benefits from it
I was told by a mc member that you gotta have real ones over numbers. Again u gtta be able to defend what u stand for.
Im not sure about any of the club sets , I just love riding my bike , taking about bikes , watching bikes and smelling petrol haha great video though . much respect from the uk .👍
When did LL COOL J get a bike 😂
Nate Snow 😂😂😂
Haha
RC is family first MC is club first.
This was a truly informative interview. Love the RC concept. I can't give my devotion to nobody but Jesus thus the MC concept doesn't work for me.
Amenz
If if if your group is not a club then how are you speaking on an MC then this whole time you talking about fho I thought y'all was a m c
I found your videos listening to Black Dragon!! I subscribed!!! This video was so clear about MC VS RC. I personally prefer RC. Thanks for the clarification.
Thanks sir
This helped alot me and some friends where thinking about a RC because we don't know if we are ready for the MC life.
Thanks but some of the rules for an RC are just as strong. Anyway good luck and ride safe.
I thought the guy in the RC said that he wants to turn his RC into an MC? If so... Does his RC have to be prospected by an MC? And would his RC have to be Blessed in by the 1% in order for his RC to become an MC?
Phillip Ellington from my understanding, yes. We will have to prospect and get the blessing from the 1% Dominant MC in the region.
KG_TUPD
An R/C does not claim territory, don't get patched in we buy out patch. Show respect to the M/C and get permission to wear our patch. No three piece patches allowed in R/C. Don't go to M/C events UNLESS you are invited. Our organization we are not allowed to be a member of a 1% club. We can quit anytime we want, not so with some M/Cs. Have been member of both in my 50 plus years of riding.
In my humble opinion, the difference between the two are bi-laws, dues, and living the biker lifestyle. From my experience, RCs don't have bi-laws nor pay dues but MCs do. I could be wrong but that is what I have seen. The commitment to the biker lifestyle is the foundation for MCs and it's brotherhood. We all can have the love of motorcycling, but the devotion of yourself to become a biker is reserved for the MC.
I Kno I may be late to this amazing video and comments but if u think about it I agree 100% with you about RC clubs but I also understand mc clubs the reason is if u think about it and really look at it, if u have a vest with patches on the back of the vest with colors and name of the club with a logo mc look at it as in u just cross that path of being in the mc scene if that's the case of a rc just riding and having fun then wear shirts and sweaters of the crew u rocking with that's just an mc mind set I may be wrong it's just an opinion not the true fact but I agree RC and SC or MM shouldn't be having the trouble of asking permission to come out with that type of club now if u want to bring out an MC then yeah go through chains of command but I don't know. it's kinda messed up how even RC and SC and MM must have permission to come out with a club if ur not even coming out with an mc or stepping on anybody toes especially the big dogs that runs that specifically state but I get both sides
RC should not be around MC way be RC just be a fucking MC I’m a independent like my man chuck jines
Iceman1 Bentley your opinion
So much talking just to ride a motorcycle. WTF?
I choose neither too much bs involved. If you love to ride..... Ride and be free..
Exactly
we are an mcc (so we dont get the politics of mc), we are set up with the same reason to get established and to get the biker set to see us and to get to know us , we have 2 statements bullying isn,t cool and fundraising for those who need it and to enjoy riding
From personal experience the RC is for all practical purposes a “subordinate” club to a MC. As y’all stated there are functions that the dominant will expect your support at but the books and some topics are not shared with the mc nor in my case, is the level of brotherhood. RC relationship are in that club and don’t carry in the mc. The hierarchy however in terms of where you travel for example is responded to by rivals the same as if you are with the mc. Stay independent....do you!
I love RC clubs i have my own RC clubs we just ride cam am spyder instead of two wheels
Learning a lot didn't know anything about RC
There are a few RC's & MA's out there who have bylaws, pay dues, probation period and wear a 3 piece cut with approval from the dom.
Widows Sons & LAMA are two great examples.
DAMN. So the freedom to ride is dead? The MC handles their thing. If you are not part of that then just ride for fun and family. If you don't patch ,you should be free to just ride and go.
Like the old saying. You can please all the people some of the time. you can please some of the people all the time. but you can't please all the people all the time.
Very informative discussion. Number one question, yes if you have never been or hang around an MC and know what some MC 's require of you and your time as a prospect. RC will do more Charity Runs and get you affiliated with other local MC's to see if club life is your thing. Second question, Yes, because after ratifying our patches through COC Confederation of Clubs and meeting with other Clubs you become friends. Also, we attend Church once a month with all of the local MC, RC Chapters, so you get to know who's who. I can answer the statement you made about not putting MC first or RC. Mc before RC on any rides or runs that we make with MC's but when we get to where we are going we are one again. Third Question, If you mean being a T-Shirt club RC "No" but Rockin a Rocker as in 2 piece patch or 3 piece it would be very detrimental to your nice new vest if you didn't get permission.
Sounds like a bunch of bullies to me
I’m getting ready to start my own RC here in Florida. What website do I go to to order a vest like the one he has on in the video?
I’d like to make an RC not because I’m trying to avoid MC problems I just want to ride with friends and have a patch I’d like to rock a top rocker and mid it be nice to rock a three patch but don’t want to deal with the problems
Same
I'm in FTW rc. We are in the IE. Much love and respect to all riders (MC, RC, SC). Hopefully i can run into KG. stay strong.
Keep a single patch and you will be fine
What’s good Cel! I agree when you said a lot of these MC’s are on some personal level ish that keeps me away from these MC’s from joining. I respect every black MC doing their thang. Personally I like to ride my hog with a group of brothers that just like to ride. Yo it was good finally meeting you this past Saturday in Macon at the bikers picnic! Keep doing your thang
FHO GOT ROOM FOR YA
Thanks for the LOVE
Jus ride and respect and youll be fine
You have alot of number 1 number 2 number 3 questions before homiencam even answer the first set of questions...run your channel a little better...u walk af
I'm in alberta canada a a few friends and I want to start an RC but we would like to wear cuts. What are the steps from start to finish?
Good stuff appreciate it
Bro stay RC to much politics in MC set
I like the RC concept
FHO ATLANTA, so the Niagra Falls run is open to all bikes? So my harley killer will be welcome right? 🤣 Just talking shit bro. Nothing but love for you from NC and great interview.
,RC ride more than Mcs. MC will do a ride and hang out . I'm not tryna hang out I'm tryna ride and race
Wowww it's uh good thing I was on the set in the 80s. This shit now🤔.20yr.+Vet. The L.A.D.T.m.c.✌
This was very informative I’m not a rider yet very soon but even being a rc and kg tryin to become a mc and hasn’t told his club mc means to me they ain’t ready switchin to that mc you may lose some guys that’s in yo club that might not be down for that seems he’s tryin to use rc to build up numbers without tellin members what your goal is
I dont think there is a hidden agenda at all.
KG and TUPD RC have no intentions of becoming an MC. This video was conducted a year ago. Thank you for your comment (s).
Big Cell turn the camera around to your audience... 😂
Nice video. Have fun and ride free.
So you have to be able to defend your definition of rc
Just hung out with these bruthas and there wives this past weekend. Very solid dudes that love to ride and put family 1st. Love the way they get down and handle business. Every time they've come to Vegas they've showed love. KG keep doing ya thing fam. 💯💯💯
Fa sho thanks for following FHO
@@FHOHNIC Fa Sho 💯💯 keep bringing the masses great info
Lawrence Bush bruh, it’s always a pleasure to hang out with you. When like minded MEN link up, amazing things happen. Support is always appreciated, but when it comes from a cat of your caliber, it’s confirmation you’re doing it right. 💯
How many members do you need to start an RC
Minimum 5
Let him talk you wierdo. You was slick hatin on dude the whole time.
So if u just wanna ride and organize do u really need patches for that 🤔🤔
Why do u promote Harley product and not the other brand motorcyling is all bikes , I have rode with both groups and it's all about fun and brother hood.
Just my personal favorite
I read an interview with sonny bager and he said he went to prison for a brief stint around the time honda 750(HONDA 4) and kawasaki 900 came out and he was suprised when he got out that his gang wasnt riding them, there were no regulations against it at the time, and its a genral consensus that they were a more balanced engine and definatley the better and more reliable bike of the time . Also i i think he was quoted saying ; to each their own, ride what you ride.
I grew up riding dirt bikes, as soon as i could got into super sport bikes and now i ride an harley 89 softail (easier to keep a liscence on than a gsxr).The older i get i relise who evers having fun on their bike a riding it all the time enjoying it is wining. It doesnt matter what you ride
Exactly Ride your Ride
I'm new to riding so bear with me. Just bought my first bike in 09/2018. So, if you have a group of guys & gals, say 7-14 folks, that get together and ride on a weekly basis, at some point they'll have to get a "blessing" from a dom MC to continue to do so? It just sounds kind of silly. If folks want to ride as a group and decide to design a vest the same way folks who bowl together design bowling shirts, they may, at some point, run into issues with a dom MC in the area? Sounds extreme but I guess knowledge is power. Glad I found this page.
There is a saying for this, for those that understand no answer needed. For those that don't understand, no answer will do.
If you want to make a RC learn the history of MCs and Assoc. You get alot of freedom as an RC and you don't need to ask permission to do it. But if you ask permission your rc belongs to the MC that gives you the green light. This is non negotiable under any circumstances. They will take your colors if you fuck up. So take it slow, craw before you walk.
Be respectful with you patch design and colors. Meet with your local CoC and learn. Don't make a 3 piece patch. Keep it to a one or two piece.
3 piece is considered offense in most places to MCs. It's not about asking permission, but you wouldn't walk into someone's house or yard and act like you own the place. The motorcycle community is all about good "character" a word often forgotten.
Every MC you come across will tell you one thing. Your a Man before your anything. Take it to heart!
Be polite and respectful. It's not rocket science. Too many good men have put blood, sweat, and tears into this. When your new, you earn yours. One step at a time. Good luck and hope you find what your searching for.
My thing is this. I am a 1%er and we see way to many guys in RC clubs trying to act like a outlaw club they think that patch on there back means something it's not. I can't tell ya how many RC groups have been shut down in my area.
Listen what your speaking of makes perfect sense. Anybody acting like a 1% that is not should be shut down. My argument is that there is no stability within the ranks, no teaching, just 1% VS 99% and thats not how it should be. We both have the interest in 2 wheels and although it is presented that 1% have a higher LOVE & PASSION which I can prove thats not all true. However I appreciate your comment, respect your earned diamond. BIG CELL FHO'S HNIC
RC to MC can happen, it's a good way to start. At least when you take your next step you'll find less kick back.
RC are not exempt from MC rules. But they should make their own line in the Sand. Unless they put on a support patch. Then all bets off.
They do as told by their mother, feed, dominate. What ever name you want to call it. But RC, Assoc, ECT, are not MCs and not in the same league. Normally MCs in my area ignore RCs. Were not in the same league.
No one needs premission to do anything. Just be able to stand on your own or get folded. But realize every real MC talks to each other so be careful how you decide to play in the Sand box. What happens in one state happens in every state.
thank you for a great video
Sounds like they tryna fake it to they make it
Can I get a FHo pl ride a1800 Houston
I love your realness brother!
I personally think the "line" is someone who wants to just ware a vest compared to someone who earns it
Depending on wtf it mean's to actually earn your Vest / patch
I like the whole RC concept . If you have contact info for your guest, please pass it on. I'm in the IE. Thanks big cell.
Contact KG at 7605500164
Follow us on Instagram: throttleup_poundown_rc
In box us.
Thanks Cell. I'll be hitting up your PayPal. Thanks for the love. KB I hit your inbox on IG. Get at me. Thanks.
I meant KG. No disrespect intended.
Cool I'll be waiting
RC!!!
Kiaora big cell
Wrote a comment earlier but missed the point entirely 🤙so going to have another go.
correct me if I’m wrong but to me the fine line has to be in the wearing of a Back Patch.the three piece back patch belongs to the 1%ers along with the diamond.
A one piece back patch I thought was for the 99%ers.and that has to be all about the respect and the commitment!!!that comes with finally getting to wear a back patch.like you said if you are not fully committed to the MC way of life then why bother wearing a back patch all together,that is until you’re riding club social club or whatever is ready to make the commitment and earn it.no matter which one you currently come under you are your going to have ups and downs at some stage,hopefully more ups.
Just my two cents sir. You got a awesome channel BIG CELL👍you and your mate ride safe.
That was kinda my point but like I said you have the choice to do whatever it's just that you need to be prepared for the whatever. I'm sure this dialog will raise many eyebrows but then again the set has been turned into pure Fuckery so maybe not.
We did the same thing, went through the proper channels with respect and got the blessing from the local dominate. We're trying to further educate ourselves on the life... PBRC
Housedawg59501 that’s what’s up! What’s your club name?
@@KGs_Place Pharaohz Brotherhood, right on bro
You guys on IG ?
@@KGs_Place IG? I'm lost bro, we need to link up, you on messenger? My fb page is Anthony northend Harrison, let's rap a lil
FaSho.. IG: (Instagram)
Do you guys ever do MC events with other clubs outside the black clubs?
Yes we go wherever we are invited
R.E.S.P.E.C.T is the most important. Give it to Get it
Sounds fundamentally the same.
Can rc wear pins ?
Some shit they doing
ML&R Cell great video.
We should do another interview soon if you want.
Fa sho
Shit I'm in the I .E.
I went to school with a member of the Hard Rider's
#Htown
Interview The Dirty Birds 🦅 I.E. Chapter Next 👍🏾
Dj Vegas whats IE ?
IE is a short for Inland Empire which is a section of cities in Cali
FHO ATLANTA, GA. Cool cheers for letting me know dude, gday from oz
Gary Host Inland Empire in San Bernardino CA
We if he hasn't presented to his club that he's wanting to push towards an MC conversion, the sure jumped the gun by putting it out to everybody on TH-cam didn't he?
Jonathan Norris uhm you may be right
You are correct, I may have jumped the gun; however, it is not a push, only a desire for the future. At the end of the day, if the club does not want to move in the direction of an MC, that’s cool. RC or MC, it doesn’t matter, as long as we are having fun, moving in a positive direct and our Brotherhood is SOLID, that’s all that matters. Thank you for your comment and observation.
I like KG approach because he is a respectable brother who has respect his fellow brothers and the mc protocol. You have mc’s that don’t do that. You have a lot of fake bikers in the mc world and visa versa. At the in Of the day,it’s about loyalty and respect.
✌🏾🎧Dj Vegas PS Big Cell,keep spreading knowledge.
So whats the best way to start a rc the right way
Is that Keffe D?
Yes sir you said that
Do they follow ROBERTS LAWS ? AND OR Do they have 5 major officers ( ex. President , Vice-president etc )
I'm not sure but mostly everyone does.
My opinion the day you had this interview has totally changed from what I had that day. My opinion now is he’s dead 💀 wrong for doing what he’s doing. Cause he really just put a loophole in MC.
BagMan FHO Representer so what has changed please explain.
I m confused he said he got in touch with black dragon . Yet black dragon recently made a video saying rc’s better ask permission from the dominant
Jay Bentley black dragon gave me the 👍🏾 on our Patch, as far as how it is set up...that’s all. As far as asking for “permission”, the issue appears to be regional.
KG sir I was not doubting you at all . I am just confused by some of his info . He gives some great info and all but as of recently he has confused me numerous times . And when I try to ask a question I get labeled a troll . Trying to get an education and get called a troll but when I asked about starting an rc or mc he simply states he stated follow mc protocol lol . And I just want to say love the colors your rocking mine are similar
Jay Bentley no worries bro, just wanted to clarify 👊🏾 Thank you for your compliment on our colors 💯. I would love to see yours.
I feel your pain about trying to get the answers to “protocol”. Many have reached out to TUPD for direction. I will post our TH-cam page, which we will address this issue soon. Great stories to share, about seeking the info to do it “right “.
th-cam.com/channels/AbQFEJK8HNQmzFSDhsb-NA.html
Well sir the true answers you seek may never be found because they dont exist they have been manipulated & personalized for one own standings. All I can and will tell you is do what you need to do to protect and keep safe your own.
Bro I have a crew COWBOYZ HD4LIFE. We tried to start a brother hood in N.C. We got a lot of negative feed back. We love to ride and we put miles down every year. The 1%s is giving us push back on what we doing. We respect the life and trying to do it right. MC is not a commitment that my brothers can handle. Give me some advise on another step....
kingchevy94 if you are an RC, you shouldn’t have any issues with 1%ers, as long as you follow MC protocol. If the dominant has an issue with your Crew, the issues should be able to be resolved with a conversation. Check out Black Dragon’s (Black Sabbath)TH-cam page, he’s has good info on the subject.
kingchevy94 th-cam.com/video/ackYOX83ixM/w-d-xo.html
kingchevy94: There are many reasons you may not be well received by the dominant. Dominant may have determined there are enough/too many MC's/RC's in the area. Seems every group of five friends wants a patch. You may be encouraged to join existing clubs/brotherhoods in your area.Maybe start a new chapter of existing MC/RC. Schedule a sit-down with dominant and get the do's and don'ts directly from the source. I do not advise putting a patch on without the dominant's blessing.
kingchevy94 th-cam.com/video/4LH4tlqUF24/w-d-xo.html
Ok hear me when I say this it's not about having a blessing but it has become about control with a personal agenda.
U only have to really report to your local 1% dom
Wait can a founder be a president as well
Yes
@@FHOHNIC huh that’s cool
So if you have a new model bike your legit?
Why you say that?
@@FHOHNIC talking about he has a 17
RC can love to motorcycles- mc is in love with the motorcycle lifestyle
I don't agree .. I'm in love with my bike my Indian and I have been coast to coast 5x in 2 years. Riding alone enjoying the freedom.
How many members are required to start an RC?
I would say 5 check with the AMA
I believe it's 5
Riding club vs. Sportbike Club, vs Motorcycle club. They all come with some different rules & regulations, but the protocol going to be the same. You still going to need a blessing. JMHOP. If you think you don't , starting riding to different area's & the word gets out. If your not blessed ,there is going to be a problem
Uhm not totally you have been mislead about the original blessing was about.
@@FHOHNIC you lost me. Please clarify what your talking about? In the north east .pa,nj,NYC area if you start anything your going to need a blessing,if you dont have that,your going to run into problems.
Hey man what's up
I have alot of respect for you sir
Was that a woman
Can RC wear a support patch?
So the rc and Mc are segregated?
On different levels
@@FHOHNIC nah I mean white and black riders in different clubs
There's a whole lot going on
@@FHOHNIC hmm
Ugh so wrong 🤦♀️
Ham no burger
M 1’s What’s That? Is That English?🤣
That part
Looks like Oprah gained some weight