Last story - Yeah, you don’t get to go to someone else’s home and aggressively kick them out of their own bed. Guest beds are there for the guest to sleep on. That’s why they’re called the guest bed.
The next time they go visit the MILs house, OP should demand they get to sleep in their master bedroom with the door locked just to see how MIL reacts. If she reacts badly, then point out she now knows the reason why she had a problem with MILs demands when she was a guest at their house.
Story 3: Being old is no excuse for calling in a noise complaint on a dark, empty, silent apartment. Either she was losing her cabbage, or she was just plain an a-hole.
@@foofoo3344 That makes it more likely that she was just an a-hole. Otherwise, well, it's also possible she was demented, maybe Levy's Body Dementia, I think they can have not only delusions but also hallucinate things. And it's not necessarily obvious when only seeing the person shortly. However most forms of dementia also seem to include problems with balance and moving in general, so if she faked needing a walker, yep, a-hole seems more likely. There could still have been some bona fide mental problems other than just general bad character but her having hallucinations and seriously thinking the neighbors were being noisy is less likely to be one of those.
Yup. Just tell the biotch and her mama's boy that she can have the bedroom after you remove ALL you personal belongings to the "guest" room. Hubby can sleep with his mama or take the couch.
A thought crossed my mind: I wonder if this permissiveness toward his mother is the norm for the husband or if he asked her to drop by unexpectedly & snoop around on his wife. Maybe he thinks OP is hiding something from him & enlisted his mom to find out for him. That definitely would be an interesting take on the subject.
I wish people would consider these kind of familial dynamics BEFORE getting married in the first place. Who wants a relationship with someone that kowtows to the influence of their family?
@@nyxxthewrythe husband may have kept this side of himself hidden from op. That’s usually the case a person shows a kind loving side when dating but as soon as they get married the mask disappears and the monster shows its ugly face.
Plz! When you buy a home, make sure the survey is up to date and read it! And, surprisingly often, you can find it online (more for the lot number & divisions). If you put thousand of dollar, make sure of what you are buying! I mean, buildozer are not a small thing to play arround. If he had cut wire or pipes, you would have been in very very big trouble running after the guy for damage that you kind of didn't stop him to do (and not authorized). You want to go in court with the maximum ammunition if you need to go in court.
Yeah so weird for her to insist that she can't sleep in a 'guest room' and instead MUST sleep in OP's marital bed...with the door locked. That doesn't even get to the issue of her turning up uninvited! MIL is a weirdo and her son needs to see a therapist.
He's heading for divorce if he doesn't grow a pair. OP is not the ah and needs to re-evaluate her marital position. She's too mature for that manchild!
No, bet. Hubs cooked his goose siding with mommy dearest. As others have speculated. Mother-in-law's end game was either to snoop either for herself or hubs or to tamper with the OP's birth control or both.
Story 1 - I have no doubt that OP’s AH neighbor scratched the sticker off OP’s license plate and then reported it. I bet that neighbor was cursing up a storm when he saw that his motorhome was towed away. Serves him right
It's strange how some people take an *instant* dislike. It's like the opposite of love at first sight. I had that happen once. I was introduced to a pathologist (Don't ask). I put my hand out and said "Hello, Mr Farnan". Instant hatred in return. Never saw the like before or since. Still no idea why.
@@sarumano884 I don’t understand it either. It’s like when someone sees a person who has piercings, or tattoos, or wears black clothes, or rides a motorcycle, they immediately assume that they are the worst people on the planet. That they’re an ex-convict, a satanist, a gang member etc, etc, when they’re just regular people with normal jobs and lives. I know nowadays most people don’t care about that but there’s still one or two people that think like that. I’m sorry that that happened to you.
@tmntfangirl4700 Ah, we differ on that. Your piercings offend me, so that is the big reason why I dislike you - once I get to know you, I can get around them. 🙃 But I am talking about instant hate, with no discernable cause for it. No piercings, no tattoos, I was a lowly lab tech on secondment, so I was not challenging his job or knowledge. Like I said, still no idea why. Even the tech who introduced me asked what I'd done to offend so deeply.
@@sarumano884 genuine question, not trying to sound hateful or anything But, if it's not on your body, and no one is telling you you have to get pierced, what is it about piercings that offend you?
@SappyDuder There really needs to be a sarcasm or hyperbole emoji. I could have picked tattoos, black clothing, or motorcycles to echo tmntfangirl's point, but I didn't. Pick a Freudian slip out of that, if you wish :-)
Story 3: Geez, she could've at least explained herself to OP. Like, constantly filing noise complaints against OP even though the apartment was empty sometimes? Might as well be hallucinating loud noises at this point
Its entirely possible she was hallucinating and that OP basically scared the piss out of a dementia sufferer then lied about doing it to get her in trouble with the police for filing a 'false' report about him startling her. I mean, don't get me wrong, its possible she was just a jerk that decided she hated them. But the fact she literally called the cops on them when nobody was home and it would be obvious she was lying about them making noise if she was in touch with reality makes it seem much more likely to me that she had some sort of mental disorder.
eh, the old lady was probably losing it so bad that she imagined OP and wife were some sort of demons or something idk. Either that, or she's so manipulative (but I also believe hallucinating - a lot of geriatric conditions cause it) that she avoids confronting the OP by turning on the waterworks. But crying when OP approaches smacks of dementia/god knows what.
There's another Reddit post that I have heard read on TH-cam more than once. Involving a racist couple. They were constantly filing complaints against another couple. Accusing them of all sorts of things. Like being too loud. The apartment building had not only security, but armed security. The second couple had to go out of the country for a week or so. The couple told one of the security guards. Asking that he keep an eye on their apartment. The security guard said yes, und not to tell anyone else about their plans. Sure enough, the racist couple unaware that the target of their hate wasn't even home. Continued to make complaints. A formal review was called. The racist wife tried to object to the security guard being armed. She was told that his sidearm *WAS* a part of his uniform. Even though when making their complaints the racist couple used all sorts of racial slurs. At the meeting they denied having done so. But that the noise complaints were accurate. Not surprisingly, they had nothing to say when asked how an apartment that had been empty for a week or so. Und that was checked on regularly by the security guards. Was able to make noise. Needless to say, the racist couple was evicted.
Story 4 - Another Power Hungry Karen using her position of power to make false accusations against someone only to have it backfire badly on her. All she had to do is leave OP alone and none of this would’ve happened. Serves her right
I’m an older woman in my 70’s and I find preposterous that someone, man or woman, would take that as an excuse to be obnoxious for no good reasons. Usually you get the respect you give to others no matter the age. Starting at 8:50, the comment pretty summarizes my thoughts.
Absolutely. I'm 65 & I was raised on the same principle, treat people with the same respect you want from them. After my Dad died, my Mom started going to a senior center. She made friends with a group of 3 other Women her age (early to mid-70s). One day, she & I were in a fast-food restaurant, which was jam-packed with customers. When it was Mom's turn to order her food she just went off on the cashier. I was astonished & horrified. My Parents drilled into us 3 kids proper etiquette & respect. If it were any of the 3 of us, who said what she did, both of our Parents would have smacked us across the mouth & given us a tongue-lashing that would have made us want to crawl under a rock. When I said to my Mom, "What the hell was that?" She replied, "At my age", & I cut her off. I said, "Rude is rude at any age, shame on you. I know you picked up these bad habits from your friends at the senior center, & as Dad used to say to us If Your Idiot Friends On The Street Told You To Jump Off The Bklyn Bridge, would you?" My Mom immediately apologized to me, & I said, pointing at the cashier, "It's not me to whom you owe an apology." My Mom turned to the cashier & with great embarrassment, apologized to her. The cashier looked at me & mouthed the words, "Thank You". Rude is rude no matter who you are. I speak & act toward people exactly the way I DEMAND they speak & act toward me. Most of the time, people will rise to the occasion, & speak & act in kind. Otherwise, if they continue their nonsense, I refuse to engage with them by either ignoring them/not responding to them, or walking away from them.
Aaay! Good on all of you for being over the hill and still technologically educated! I'm 34 so I'm not a child but to you guys I guess I'm still pretty young. I live in a retirement town. I love it here because it's quiet, low crime rate, almost everyone is polite with each other, using old school manners and whatnot. None of the current modern day social issues happen here. As long as you're respectful and don't butt your nose into anyone's business, they're just as polite and respectful back. However, having said that, even people in their early 50's here, I'd say the better half of close to 75%, are completely modern technology ignorant. Anything more advanced than a flip phone or a computer running anything older than Windows 98 is like a mystifying enigma to them. If they were to post a comment on TH-cam, like you three have, they'd be the stereotypical typing in all caps, using broken grammar, and most likely either commenting on the wrong video or just making a comment that has little to nothing to do with the content of the video or the conversation chain. I hope all 3 of you have the bestest of days and that you all have a wonderful thanksgiving, a beautiful Christmas and an amazing new year! Thank you so very much for giving me hope that the older generation can and do know how to use modern tech, and especially the Internet!
I DID let my MIL and FIL sleep in my bed a couple years ago. The difference was that my father had just passed and my wife and I had gone to see my family. They took care of our kids and respected our property.
The last story: The husband is the a hole,for not giving wife her place and instead giving it to his entitled mother. His marriage will end soon and it will be his fault. He can go share his bed with his mom. 💩😡😡🤬
I heard a story last week where the bride, searching for the groom to get the wedding started, found her STBH being *NURSED* BY HIS MOTHER IN THE MEN'S ROOM!! The dude was in his THIRTIES, FFS!!! **NURSEÐ**!!!
The last story. No not the a hole. In fact. Visit her house and tell her that she should sleep on the couch so that they can sleep in the master bedroom so they can lock it. If she says no. Start complaining about the hypocrisy and how she only wants to snoop in people's personal belongings. That or buy some........ahem....... adult toys and dolls without the husband knowing. When she visits. Take out personal stuff. Put the adult toys around and hide the adult dolls in there. Let her snoop and let her see them and be scared. Also stick in some road kills and some other stuff.
Or a few "jack in the box" type jump scares. 😂 Just make sure you hide a camera or two with audio to catch the fun.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And keep your jewelry, important papers and valuables locked up.
Last story, I had the opposite. For my birthday, my mom invited me over, and she decided without asking me that; since it's my birthday; I deserved to sleep in her bedroom instead of the usual guest room. I was honestly shocked and told her "No way I sleep in your bed!". She didn't understand and insisted that I would sleep better in her bedroom, but I didn't let it slip and slept in the guest room. That was really creepy to be offered that. It is even more creepy to ask for it!
You don’t live at the house, you don’t get to chose where you sleep. The mother in law could have had her own room! With a bed! Why did she want to sleep in the bed as her son and his wife? Messed up.
Story 4: Honestly, if it was because OP was young and Linda was one of those that looks down on the younger generation and sees all of them as criminals, it would make sense. Like, OP did nothing against Linda, it was simply OP existing in the same building as her that made her mad and want them gone as soon as possible
@@LoveOnTheInsidex3i agree, because that old bat apparently didn’t know the 2 Rules of Business, Rule #1- Mind Your Own Business, and Rule #2- Stay The Hell Out Of Mine
Last story: I don't understand how people like the husband in that story end up married. He clearly just wants to be with his mommy. And yes, I mean in that way.
Story Last. Is OP's husband married to OP or to his Mom? To OP, this behaviour will never end! OP better get used to being a distant second to MIL in her husband's eyes.
Last story, ops possible future ex husband should have defended op. The mother was a guest In their house she gets a guest bedroom or she can sleep elsewhere
Absolutely not the AH, WHY does mother in law need the master bedroom? Maybe she’s looking for daughter in laws Lingerie? How sickening.🤢🤢🤮🤮 Husband needs to know Mommy is jealous of what the wife and her son enjoy in privacy. Mommy is a sick puppy and new wife needs to reconsider her position in her marriage. 22:4422:44
#3 besides being out of line calling the police it makes me wonder if she has the onset of dementia. When you consider that she locked her car door right away and started crying, always calling police because of noise, these are some of the signs.
Last story: "he then reminded me that it's our bedroom, not just mine" If that had been said to me, I'd remind him that yeah, it's OUR bedroom, not his mother's, so what the (bleep) makes her think she has the right to kick me out of it?
PSA: Always have security cameras if you have an HOA, Karen or Kevin...anywhere in the area. Always call police if crimes are committed against you or your property. Story 2: Always press charges. Do NOT allow the crazy guy to set foot on the property. Hire someone to repair the damages at his expense. Tow the dozer as well. Story 3: That moment she called the cops on them when they were not even home is the moment I stopped giving any fucks about what OP did back in retaliation. Story 6: OP is NTA. OP had every right to not be kicked out of her own marriage bed by anyone...MIL (and husband) were both outrageously entitled & inappropriate.
Last story: MIL's behavior is not at all okay. It's creepy. Like Fluff, I don't doubt she was all set for a night of snooping. Something her son (he's no decent sort of husband!) said really bothers me: "It's OUR bedroom, not just yours." Yeah, so doesn't that mean BOTH of them need to consent to MIL occupying it? Because otherwise it's effectively just HIS bedroom. If it were me, I would have gotten petty about it. Either agree with her sleeping in there, but so am I... or agree to let her sleep in there, but only after I move all MY stuff to the guest room (which will just happen to take all damned night).
The old cop-calling karen likely had some kind of dementia - sure sounds like paranioa and overwhelming fear. Should have referred her to a mental health support service.
Honestly, I've met many, many senior citizens who were just complaining jerks. I worked for the State of IL for 12 year's as a traveling nurse for Medicaid patients who needed wound management which had me meet with an array of clients of all ages. Wound management client's were mostly paraplegics and quadrapelegics, a lot of bed sores that come along with the territory. Later, I'm now in my 40s, I switched to private duty nursing for EXTREMELY wealthy people who were paying my agency 5 grand minimum a week to have me there and I can tell you these spoiled seniors were the absolute worst! They were entitled and downright mean to me when I was there to help them. It was 58.00 an hour plus 13¢ a mile, time and half on holidays and weekends and I took all those shifts, nights as well, only for the pay... Not the people. I had one spoiled rotten women actually call her veterinarian for her crusty white dog and tell him that the dog was acting funny and wasn't right ever since I got there, the dog hated me apparently, and I had only been there maybe an hour and the dog was constipated for 3 days. I was the reason for it all... I had another one call someone she knew 30 minutes after I arrived look me right in the eye as she told this person that I "took a piece a cake out of the kitchen and stood there starring at her while I ate it laughing at her", literally NONE of that happened. They giggled about their lies, they thought it was funny to be mean to someone, there was nothing mentally deficient about these people, they were just horrible spoiled country club wives who were monsters in the 60s and still are today.
Story 5: if there is an accident, just start recording. My dad got hit by someone last year and I just started recording...and it caught the lady up in a ton of lies. Just start recording, if nothing of note happens you can delete it....but if something does happen, you will be so glad you have proof.
Story 5 - In this social media obsessed modern society… yeah it is a good idea to get a dashcam for your car and immediately start recording when crap like this happens.
Last Story - OP is NTA. That kinda behavior is really really REALLY disturbing. And if the husband wants to sleep in the same bed with his mommy then by all means let him… after OP divorces him.
What kind of guest would demand to stay in your bed with the door locked? A Just-no-mother-in-law! OP needs to sit down with hubby & talk about how dysfunctional his mom is to want to sleep in THEIR bed & possibly going through their stuff during the night! He needs to realize he's not married to his mom & that they're a family now. If he doesn't agree to couple's counseling, he needs to understand that they can't have a healthy marriage if MIL's constantly going to come between them like this.
Story 4: I lived for two years in an HOA gated community. Full of married/retired couples. My roommates and I (no one married but all working) never had any parties, get togethers, and barely talked to ANYONE there. And *still* in the last few months, some busybodies lodged a handful of complaints: we had a cat in the crawl space above our unit (no, I’m allergic and there’s no way to segregate the rooms), we removed the numbers on our door (no, it’s a freaking renovated high school - our numbers are ABOVE the door), we improperly disposed of something (no, the dumpster sign literally said EITHER inside it or on the curb outside the fence). And these complaints went to our landlord who lives in another state and not us directly. Landlord just….wtf’d that. Didn’t believe any of it. Thank sanity we got outta dodge.
Guests are supposed to listen to their host if there's a medical reason why they need to have the bedroom then yeah sure. If you like it only has the closest bathroom in the house for medical reasons for sure but not let them dictate what they are going to have in your house that's just undermining being a guest is.
Even if you’re not in a 1 party state, record. You’re in public and recording is an inalienable right there. The one party consent is for private property only
"..saying I disrespected his mom who was a GUEST at our house.." (quote) Yes, exactly. She was a guest - and not the home owner. She's totally entitled - and also imho very creepy wanting to sleep in her son's and his wife's bed..
1) Happy for OP to get this great opportunity for some retribution. 2) Glad there was a happy ending for OP's friends. 3) After harassing OP, she got her just desserts. Age is no excuse for being such an AH. 4) Well done OP, I'm glad this worked out to his benefit. 5) Dash cams are a good thing. Glad OP had one. 6) Husband would not be sleeping in the bed with me any time soon after him taking his mother's part over her outrageous request. OP, it's time to file for a divorce from this momma's boy and get away from him and his family of AHs.
story #1. OP says his sticker was scraped off. The municipality of whomever issues those stickers would KNOW that it had been paid and now it was gone. OP shouldn't have to be threatened because SOMEONE SCRAPED IT OFF.
I have a next door neighbor who has a nice victorian home out of which a bed and breakfast is run. She is a " my way or the highway" type of person. Now, we dont have a fence to the alley out back, nor do we have a front fence dividing our properties. What divides our property out front is lilac bushes and arborvitaes. Now, i dont throw organic matetial in the trash, i put in in the compost in the back yard. So scraps of food, bread, etc will go in the compost pile. The other day, the neighbor came over and informed me that i couldn't put food in my compost because her dog was eating it. So her dog come in to my yard, and eats food from my compost pile and somehow, thats my problem.
17:52 - it took him that long to figure out that this was an insurance scam? Like the fact that the woman called her niece and her niece's husband and not the police and the fact that the niece kept saying just give us money we don't want to go through Insurance none of those were red flags that this is an insurance scam? Come on where's the common sense? oh wait..... that isn't too common anymore these days is it?😂😂😂😂😂
For years now I have honestly felt that every person NEEDS to have their own bodycam (so their phone is free in case of emergency) and ALL cars should have a Sentinel System (like Teslas have) because it has come to the point where everyone needs that insurance.
OP & MIL who visited unannounced & wanted to sleep in her room with the door locked: First & foremost, my Parents knew that they had to call me before just 'dropping by' or I wouldn't let them into my apartment, period. Second, when you visit people for overnight stays, your hosts are the ones who assign you a place to sleep. If you don't like your hosts' arrangements, get a damn hotel room. The Son is a spineless wonder. Who the hell allows anyone to just 'drop by' especially with the expectation of staying overnight? That MIL has some damn nerve. I wonder how she would react if OP & her Son showed up at her house, & said, "We're staying overnight, in your bedroom, with the door locked." And as far as the other family members are concerned, mind your own damn business.
Story 6: OK, so I'm 37 and have a good relationship with my mom. She still likes to baby me sometimes, but that's just from wanting to feel needed. She still respects boundaries and even admits when she messes up. But THIS pair, it's like they're walking and talking red flags! OP has nothing to feel guilty about. She recognized suspicious behavior and acted accordingly. She should have one of her parents come over unannounced, make that same request, and then look to see what her husband says. If he says no, he's a hypocrite. If he says yes, then he doesn't have much of a sense of caution. This is something that really shouldn't be ignored.
We had a neighbor like the one in story3, except she wasn't old. She'd call the office on us several times a day and complain about the noise my kids were making. At some point, her grandkids moved in with her and there was screaming, yelling, cursing, loud music among other things. When other residents complained, she'd lie and say that it was us. Finally the office called saying that if we didn't quiet down, they would start eviction processes. We told them that no one was home and for them to go to our apartment if they didn't believe us. They never bothered us again, but the neighbor had to move out6 months later. (sorry for the long comment)
Wow story 4 is wild! Can’t imagine living for years with that going in. I had a neighbor who also made all sorts of false accusations to try to get me evicted/arrested and it was as pure hell& she didn’t even have any actual power like their neighbor! However I think it’s shocking how dumb all those other neighbors are, no one knows how to look up court cases?!
S6: Maybe don’t date a much older guy who puts his mommy before you. This is probably why he was still single and decided to marry a younger woman while thinking that the younger woman would be more submissive.
Men are more financially equipped at older ages than they are in their 20s. Women have a shorter time to get everything in order to have a career and start to have a family compared to men. That's one of the reasons why men seem more immature in their 20s compared to women.
When my mom was house sitting for my oldest brother and she REFUSED to sleep in there bed, even though they were offering, because, and I quote, "I know what they have done in that bed" and left it at that.
I am issuing a counter complaint whenever I was contacted by the police. Also if OP didn't do it then she would have gone off on Op something else came up.
Last story: 100% Not the A-hole. I can see that some old people might feel entitled that they deserve the best room/bed but I have also heard of some overbearing Mils wanting to snoop into the bedroom to see what kind of "Sinful" things they are getting into because they don't actually approve of the spouse and are looking for a way to get rid of them. Hubby is 100% a mama's boy and needs to let go of his mother. OP IMHO needs to have a nice long talk with Hubby and lay down the law, followed by protecting her own assets. She might need to kick him to the curb or abandon that toxic landfill.
Story 3) Old woman. From what I heard I'll say YTA. WHY? I'm fairly certain from her reaction to OP's wife attempted approach and OP kicking her his door as she past it, all this tells me this old lady was scared. All her calls for imagined violations was simply her way to try and keep people from staying. What should have happened by the second or third time, should have been a police chaperoned introduction with actual offers of help from OP and his wife. Too many older women who live alone after the passing of their husbands or close male relative that let them feel protected and now feel vulnerable and are scared of their own shadows. Realistically this old lady should be living in an independent living senior facility, where she would be surrounded by people her age that she might trust more. The issue I think was she'd lived in her apartment for years and as we know, the news whether local or national, if it bleeds it leads. This can wear on the minds of people as they age and feel less capable of defending themselves. Not like the widows of farmers who will drag out the old 12 gauge to take out a varment when they were 80 years old. I admit there can be some pretty nasty old biddies who are just plain iron core b*tches but most are nice but a bit paranoid about home invasions and what appear to be not nice or uncaring people.
Last story. He even said "it's our bed room" and "she's a guest" but still displaces himself for her and thinks op has no right to her own bedroom. What f***ed up logic is that. If she's a guest then she can use the f***ing guest room right. The guy is so the ahole. And I would be throwing those words back at him.
As someone who worked 35 years as a RN I completely agree that old Karen’s and Ken’s exist and not only do they exist but they’ve had years to get better at being Karen’s and Ken’s and this is why you might notice why these folks have no one who come to see them.
Last story - I’d just make sure that if my MIL insisted on staying in my bedroom, then she would get my cats, their litter tray, a water bowl, some kibble and a can of air freshener for her night locked in the room with them and to enjoy her ‘sleep’, knowing full well she wouldn’t get any ! I’m actually single but my cats sleep on my bed at night and I leave the door open so they can come and go to use their litter tray and eat/drink. Loxie, my 9 year old ginger cat sleeps on my bed the most, but she also wakes up at 4am and wakes me up in the process by walking all over me and drooling on my head ! She loves me so much ❤️🤣😂
My dog sleeps in bed with me. If my mother tried to kick me out of my own bedroom, she would either be shoved face first into the guest room or finding a hotel for the night.
I'm curious how long the last OP and her husband dated before marrying. There's no way they could have hidden such massive red flags from her for long so either they barely saw his family before marrying or they dated for a very short period. Because that Oedipus complex is strong.
Years ago my grandparents moved from the city, to a small " hobby farm" following my grandfather's retirement, we kids spent a good amount of time there, and made friends with some of the local kids, all was good except for one neighbor, an elderly woman who lived alone, who absolutely hated kids, ( even though the neighbors on both sides of her and directly across the street from her had them) every time she saw us any where near her property line, she would call the sheriff, walk past her house at night, she'd call the sheriff, swim in the neighbors pool late in the evening, call the sheriff, be riding the neighbors horses through the fields behind her property, call the sheriff, if she saw us going hunting, ( during hunting season) call the sheriff, and on and on, aud nauseam, well one evening, we had gone fishing, in a nearby lake that had some really big trout,our foray was successful, and we caught several beauties, the night before we had been hanging out with her neighbors daughters by their pool listening to some quiet music, snacking having a few soft drinks, and just enjoying, the summer weather, and being mellow, and who should appear, you've got it the sheriff! This nasty old piece of work, had called them, complaining that, our music was too loud, the girls were indecently exposing them selves, ( they were wearing two piece bathing suits but not bikinis or thongs, that wouldn't come into fashion until years later) that we were drinking, and we were out after curfew, ( in this rural area there was no such thing as a curfew) when the sheriff saw for himself that none of these things were even remotely true, he apologized for the disturbance and left, cue our revenge, as we were cleaning our catch my buddy had an idea, taking the biggest of the trout, he cut its head off, propped open its mouth with tooth picks like it was going to bite, waited for dark, and placed it into the old lady's roadside mail box, early the next morning as we met up with my buddy in his garage, getting ready to go to our part time jobs on a nearby farm, ( it was haying season, and we hired out to a local farmer, in exchange for pocket money, and hunting privileges) when the old hag, came out, to get her paper, and put some mail in the box, as she did almost every morning, when she opened the box, her scream could be heard in the next county, what happened next was even more hilarious, she ran into her house, emerged with an old shotgun, and blew her mailbox to pieces, another neighbor, called the sheriff thinking that the old lady had finally lost it, screaming, while waving the gun around, the sheriff was quick to respond, and wound up laughing his head off after he saw the remains of her mailbox, with the trout head still being in recognizable condition he confiscated the shotgun, ( since 1968 our state has required a state police issued firearms owners identification card in order to legally possess guns or ammunition, something the old lady didn't have, thus the confiscation) after which, he approached us still laughing, and said only " Boy's I know you've got more than enough reason to dislike, this old bat, but take it easy on her will ya she almost had a heart attack! Before leaving still laughing his head off.
Story 3: I actually once had some episodes with my downstairs neighbour complaining to me about rather constant pounding that he heard from my apartment. I even went with him into his apartment where he had me listen because he could still hear it. When I told him I couldn't (and yes I was being honest about that) he was quite disappointed. I ended up coming down to him with the wine I got from my work as a Christmas present that year as a sign of good will. A week or two later he told me that he had ended up going to the doctor because he realized there could actually be something wrong with him. As far as I recall the reason for it was that a nerve in his ear had gotten too close to a blood vessel. And what he actually heard was his own heartbeat. I really felt sorry for him during the whole ordeal and that didn't lessen that. He was the sweetest guy. I think he still lives down there. But I haven't seen or heard from him in a couple of years. This is just to say that a neighbour complaining unreasonably about noise doesn't have to mean said person is an a**hole. They might just be ill.
Last story: NTA, that isn't a "Mum said so, so do it" situation. That's an "everyone agrees or it ain't happening" situation. And if she fired back with "I'm his mother, so do it" or something, just rebut with "and his mother is a guest in our home, not the boss of the house".
Story #3: I do want to point out that it's entirely possible for someone to need to use a device like a walker or wheelchair to reduce pain, but still be able to walk or even hurry short distances without using it. That short dash without using the assistance can cost a lot of pain later on. But none of this is an excuse for the woman's abusive behaviour overall.
Story 3: Yeap, age does not change people, usually. Most often the AH:s are the ones who stay much the same year after year, decade after decade. I am trying to make an exception to this rule on my part. Wish me luck! Please.
He said he used the vacuum as cover. Would have been so easy to just say he must have bumped the door with the vacuum and, of course, he couldn't hear her in the hallway over the noise of the machine. THAT would have been a better use of the vacuum as cover.
During the 7 years ive lived in my apartment, ive had 3 different neighbors that had the apartment right on my bedroom walls. One side is their bathroom and the other is the kitchen. I know this from the sounds i can hear lol. Ive only had a real problem with one of them. A woman that would constantly play music really loud from 11pm to 6am, or constantly screaming at someone who was either visiting or on the phone. Usually from her bathroom, right next to my head while im trying to sleep. Once i went over at 2 am to politely ask her to turn the music down. I knocked and she yelled "Who the f is knocking on my door at 2am" she opened, i explained that im her neighbor, its late, and to please tuen the music down. She cut me off with a short "yeah" and slammed the door, but did turn it down a little, but not much. Then the next time she was in the bathroom, taking a shower while yelling at somebody, so i knocked on the wall. You know, the universal sign that i can hear you and youre being a little loud. Well she beats on the wall 10x harder with her fist back. So i just say that im trying to sleep. She then yells back about how much she pays in rent (i pay more) and that she basically can do whatever she wants. I record the whole thing and send it to my landlord. She was gone a week later. The guy befror her was super nice and i hardly ever heard him, even in the bathroom. He even once apologized for having his tv up loud while watching a movie, even though i never heard a thing. Paid me $20 to borrow my wifi on a temporary guest account for a night just to watch Netflix. The guy thats in there now is most likely hard of hearing, his tv is up a little loud at night and his guests talk loudly during the day, but nothing that i cant drown out with the sound from a fan. You know, regular apartment noises. If you have a problem with your neighbors, talk to them about it first. Only when you know they are just jerks and dont care about anyone but themselves, should you complain to someone higher up to take care of it.
Parked car vs motorhome story: Comes under the heading of play stupid games... Bulldozer story: So what was the neighbor trying to get/prove out of this? Or was he just trying to bulldoze the owners? And where did he get the bulldozer? Dash cam story: OP, make sure you back up that dash cam footage. You may need it. Whose bedroom is it story: NTA! MIL was absolutely going to use that as an opportunity to go thru your personal things and effects to spy on you OP. You don't go into someone else's home and DEMAND the master bedroom and to lock it when there's a perfectly acceptable guest bedroom. What was she hoping to find? Who knows? The bigger question is why did you marry this mommy's boy who will never take your side over hers?
Story three: this old lady in her seventies doesn't think anybody should have to put up with harassment. Old age is no excuse for acting like an ostomy bag.
I genuinely feel bad for the woman in story 3. I mean the crying? It honestly seemed like she really did think someone would attack her. Feels more like extreme paranoia issues that probably indicate something worse like dementia rather than just being awful. Makes me wonder why she was just in an apartment alone,, I really really hope she got help after being kicked out if it was that :/
The easily annoyed older woman in #3 is very likely in early stages of dementia: highly reactive and little emotional control. It's not a behavior of aging in general.
Last story and Fluff's question about would I let my MIL sleep in my bed. LOL, at this point in our relationship, I wouldn't even let MIL in the house if she was homeless and everyone else in the family turned her away.
That last story, OP is NTA, but I would have taken it a step further. If she gets to sleep in my bed when visiting, it's only fair she has to do the same when you visit them. Isnt it? All she wanted to do is snoop. Fight fire with fire!
Last story- Even if the person’s house you’re visiting is your child’s, it’s still someone else’s house- why on earth would you specify request to sleep in their bed and then get angry when they say no? Also the husband’s reasoning that the bedroom ‘belongs to them both’ is a completely unjustified point since the room also belongs to the wife by his reasoning and she doesn’t want to leave. He completely contradicted himself and OP needs to have some serious discussions about boundaries when it comes to MIL
I'm a Senior now and I agree with Fuff. Aging does not come with AH rights of any kind. By reaching a Senior age, one shold have learned how to behave in public, how to interact with other people, and that kindness is free. If someone acts nasty, I always recall my Mum's reaction to this when I was a child. She would say "They must have had burnt toast for breakfast."
Last Story: Every know-and-then my parents, older couple, take a mini vacation; so it is up to me (older sibling, no cats) to babysit their cat. THERE IS NO (НЕТ, NEIN, NEI, ⛔,🚫) WAY I am going to sleep in their bedroom. >>Full body shiver.
Some people just target young people because it's easy. Had a neighbour target me for all sorts of ridiculous complaints (like my dog barking in the middle of the night when I didn't have a dog) because I was young and living alone in a sizable apartment. What she didn't know was that the apartment used to belong to my grandmother, and the only reason I could afford to live there was because the family agreed I could move in to care for the place after my grandmother's death while we got everything sorted out..
4th story: Id still preasure the board. they jumped to conclusions based on rumors, if op wasnt smart. they'd illegally evict him based on her "assumptions". if Linda wasnt a board member....would they have taken her word for it? what if op was simply having friends over...or op couldnt get the letter. op wouldve been either: -evicted -harrassed by other neighbors
If I lived alone in a place with one bedroom and a guest showed up, then yeah I might take the couch and let them sleep in my bed. If I had another bedroom, then that is where they would go, no compromises. If they demanded to take the master bed, whether I had a guest room or not, I would offer to let them sleep anywhere in the world, as long as its on the other side of my locked front door. If I'm living with a significant other and share the bedroom, then the guest can eff the eff off if they don't like the sleeping arrangements we offer. Also, its OUR bedroom, meaning consent must come from both parties before making the offer of a trade.
I swear, in that last story, I’d have started calling that pathetic excuse for a husband Oedipus and called him that until he grew a spine. Wants to be called ‘hubby?’ Nope. Oedipus. Wants to be called ‘dear?’ Nope. Oedipus. Wants to be called ‘honey?’ Nope. Oedipus.
Last story - Yeah, you don’t get to go to someone else’s home and aggressively kick them out of their own bed. Guest beds are there for the guest to sleep on. That’s why they’re called the guest bed.
I'd think most parents would PREFER a guest bedroom to sleeping in their kids marital bed. 😬
Per Ms. Manners a host should never give up their bed. Much less be locked out of their bedroom. That MIL has problems and so does her son.
The next time they go visit the MILs house, OP should demand they get to sleep in their master bedroom with the door locked just to see how MIL reacts. If she reacts badly, then point out she now knows the reason why she had a problem with MILs demands when she was a guest at their house.
Bingo!
Emily Post is rolling in her grave.
Story 3: Being old is no excuse for calling in a noise complaint on a dark, empty, silent apartment. Either she was losing her cabbage, or she was just plain an a-hole.
tbh I think it's both. Nothing's worse than an asshole that's lost their marbles.
and the noise can come from any side, the crap delusional biddy just wanted to harass the young guy
Also, she was faking her disability
@@foofoo3344 That makes it more likely that she was just an a-hole. Otherwise, well, it's also possible she was demented, maybe Levy's Body Dementia, I think they can have not only delusions but also hallucinate things. And it's not necessarily obvious when only seeing the person shortly. However most forms of dementia also seem to include problems with balance and moving in general, so if she faked needing a walker, yep, a-hole seems more likely. There could still have been some bona fide mental problems other than just general bad character but her having hallucinations and seriously thinking the neighbors were being noisy is less likely to be one of those.
@@pohjanakka4992 ok
No. Why does she need access with the door locked? Sounds like she planned to go through everything in the room instead of sleep
Yup. Just tell the biotch and her mama's boy that she can have the bedroom after you remove ALL you personal belongings to the "guest" room. Hubby can sleep with his mama or take the couch.
A thought crossed my mind:
I wonder if this permissiveness toward his mother is the norm for the husband or if he asked her to drop by unexpectedly & snoop around on his wife. Maybe he thinks OP is hiding something from him & enlisted his mom to find out for him. That definitely would be an interesting take on the subject.
I suspect she was out to steal from OP. The locked door is insanely suspicious.
Yeah, that sounds suspicious to me, too. Unbelievable!
@@dee_dee_place,Or tamper with birth control?
I love how "pushing away his family" is being confused with "normal healthy boundaries"
The last story: Those are red flags, especially with husband defending her there. I would honestly think about divorcing your husband OP
this is an immediate dear john situation
I wish people would consider these kind of familial dynamics BEFORE getting married in the first place. Who wants a relationship with someone that kowtows to the influence of their family?
@@nyxxthewrythe husband may have kept this side of himself hidden from op. That’s usually the case a person shows a kind loving side when dating but as soon as they get married the mask disappears and the monster shows its ugly face.
Story 2 sounds a lot like the neighbor wanted that land for awhile and thought he could take advantage of two young people
Agreed.
Plz! When you buy a home, make sure the survey is up to date and read it! And, surprisingly often, you can find it online (more for the lot number & divisions). If you put thousand of dollar, make sure of what you are buying! I mean, buildozer are not a small thing to play arround. If he had cut wire or pipes, you would have been in very very big trouble running after the guy for damage that you kind of didn't stop him to do (and not authorized). You want to go in court with the maximum ammunition if you need to go in court.
Last story. OP needs to contact a divorce attorney so she doesn't have to remain with a spoiled Mama's Boy
Yeah so weird for her to insist that she can't sleep in a 'guest room' and instead MUST sleep in OP's marital bed...with the door locked. That doesn't even get to the issue of her turning up uninvited! MIL is a weirdo and her son needs to see a therapist.
get a divorce from this mama boy and tell him to go home to his mommy
He's heading for divorce if he doesn't grow a pair. OP is not the ah and needs to re-evaluate her marital position. She's too mature for that manchild!
Exactly. OP should do it right now before kids get involved.
The c**t MIL obviously wanted to snoop/steal in OP's bedroom - probably to look for stuff to use against her!
Story 6 -Not the a**hole! MIL does not have the right to demand the master bedroom when she is a guest and her son and family are a**holes as well!
Story 3 - Elderly or not, it was her own fault for being a nuisance. Serves her right
The last story: 10 bucks. That marriage is not gonna last.
I hope it won't, for op's sake.
A fiver says it won't make the paper anniversary.
That's a sucker bet! 😆🤣😆
No, bet. Hubs cooked his goose siding with mommy dearest.
As others have speculated. Mother-in-law's end game was either to snoop either for herself or hubs or to tamper with the OP's birth control or both.
no bet
"Revenge served towed" Good one , DF😂
Story 1 - I have no doubt that OP’s AH neighbor scratched the sticker off OP’s license plate and then reported it. I bet that neighbor was cursing up a storm when he saw that his motorhome was towed away. Serves him right
It's strange how some people take an *instant* dislike. It's like the opposite of love at first sight.
I had that happen once. I was introduced to a pathologist (Don't ask). I put my hand out and said "Hello, Mr Farnan". Instant hatred in return. Never saw the like before or since. Still no idea why.
@@sarumano884 I don’t understand it either. It’s like when someone sees a person who has piercings, or tattoos, or wears black clothes, or rides a motorcycle, they immediately assume that they are the worst people on the planet. That they’re an ex-convict, a satanist, a gang member etc, etc, when they’re just regular people with normal jobs and lives. I know nowadays most people don’t care about that but there’s still one or two people that think like that.
I’m sorry that that happened to you.
@tmntfangirl4700 Ah, we differ on that. Your piercings offend me, so that is the big reason why I dislike you - once I get to know you, I can get around them. 🙃
But I am talking about instant hate, with no discernable cause for it. No piercings, no tattoos, I was a lowly lab tech on secondment, so I was not challenging his job or knowledge.
Like I said, still no idea why. Even the tech who introduced me asked what I'd done to offend so deeply.
@@sarumano884 genuine question, not trying to sound hateful or anything
But, if it's not on your body, and no one is telling you you have to get pierced, what is it about piercings that offend you?
@SappyDuder There really needs to be a sarcasm or hyperbole emoji.
I could have picked tattoos, black clothing, or motorcycles to echo tmntfangirl's point, but I didn't.
Pick a Freudian slip out of that, if you wish :-)
Story 3: Geez, she could've at least explained herself to OP. Like, constantly filing noise complaints against OP even though the apartment was empty sometimes? Might as well be hallucinating loud noises at this point
Its entirely possible she was hallucinating and that OP basically scared the piss out of a dementia sufferer then lied about doing it to get her in trouble with the police for filing a 'false' report about him startling her. I mean, don't get me wrong, its possible she was just a jerk that decided she hated them. But the fact she literally called the cops on them when nobody was home and it would be obvious she was lying about them making noise if she was in touch with reality makes it seem much more likely to me that she had some sort of mental disorder.
Maybe she WAS hallucinating.
eh, the old lady was probably losing it so bad that she imagined OP and wife were some sort of demons or something idk. Either that, or she's so manipulative (but I also believe hallucinating - a lot of geriatric conditions cause it) that she avoids confronting the OP by turning on the waterworks. But crying when OP approaches smacks of dementia/god knows what.
There's another Reddit post that I have heard read on TH-cam more than once. Involving a racist couple.
They were constantly filing complaints against another couple. Accusing them of all sorts of things. Like being too loud.
The apartment building had not only security, but armed security.
The second couple had to go out of the country for a week or so. The couple told one of the security guards. Asking that he keep an eye on their apartment. The security guard said yes, und not to tell anyone else about their plans.
Sure enough, the racist couple unaware that the target of their hate wasn't even home. Continued to make complaints.
A formal review was called. The racist wife tried to object to the security guard being armed. She was told that his sidearm *WAS* a part of his uniform.
Even though when making their complaints the racist couple used all sorts of racial slurs. At the meeting they denied having done so. But that the noise complaints were accurate.
Not surprisingly, they had nothing to say when asked how an apartment that had been empty for a week or so. Und that was checked on regularly by the security guards. Was able to make noise.
Needless to say, the racist couple was evicted.
Story 4 - Another Power Hungry Karen using her position of power to make false accusations against someone only to have it backfire badly on her. All she had to do is leave OP alone and none of this would’ve happened. Serves her right
I’m an older woman in my 70’s and I find preposterous that someone, man or woman, would take that as an excuse to be obnoxious for no good reasons. Usually you get the respect you give to others no matter the age. Starting at 8:50, the comment pretty summarizes my thoughts.
I'm there with you, I'm 66 and can't fathom why someone would use the age to be such a jerk.
Absolutely. I'm 65 & I was raised on the same principle, treat people with the same respect you want from them.
After my Dad died, my Mom started going to a senior center. She made friends with a group of 3 other Women her age (early to mid-70s). One day, she & I were in a fast-food restaurant, which was jam-packed with customers. When it was Mom's turn to order her food she just went off on the cashier. I was astonished & horrified. My Parents drilled into us 3 kids proper etiquette & respect. If it were any of the 3 of us, who said what she did, both of our Parents would have smacked us across the mouth & given us a tongue-lashing that would have made us want to crawl under a rock. When I said to my Mom, "What the hell was that?" She replied, "At my age", & I cut her off. I said, "Rude is rude at any age, shame on you. I know you picked up these bad habits from your friends at the senior center, & as Dad used to say to us If Your Idiot Friends On The Street Told You To Jump Off The Bklyn Bridge, would you?" My Mom immediately apologized to me, & I said, pointing at the cashier, "It's not me to whom you owe an apology." My Mom turned to the cashier & with great embarrassment, apologized to her. The cashier looked at me & mouthed the words, "Thank You".
Rude is rude no matter who you are. I speak & act toward people exactly the way I DEMAND they speak & act toward me. Most of the time, people will rise to the occasion, & speak & act in kind. Otherwise, if they continue their nonsense, I refuse to engage with them by either ignoring them/not responding to them, or walking away from them.
Aaay! Good on all of you for being over the hill and still technologically educated! I'm 34 so I'm not a child but to you guys I guess I'm still pretty young. I live in a retirement town. I love it here because it's quiet, low crime rate, almost everyone is polite with each other, using old school manners and whatnot. None of the current modern day social issues happen here. As long as you're respectful and don't butt your nose into anyone's business, they're just as polite and respectful back. However, having said that, even people in their early 50's here, I'd say the better half of close to 75%, are completely modern technology ignorant. Anything more advanced than a flip phone or a computer running anything older than Windows 98 is like a mystifying enigma to them. If they were to post a comment on TH-cam, like you three have, they'd be the stereotypical typing in all caps, using broken grammar, and most likely either commenting on the wrong video or just making a comment that has little to nothing to do with the content of the video or the conversation chain.
I hope all 3 of you have the bestest of days and that you all have a wonderful thanksgiving, a beautiful Christmas and an amazing new year! Thank you so very much for giving me hope that the older generation can and do know how to use modern tech, and especially the Internet!
I DID let my MIL and FIL sleep in my bed a couple years ago. The difference was that my father had just passed and my wife and I had gone to see my family. They took care of our kids and respected our property.
Story 5. Doesn't matter if you're in a 1 party state or not. If you're on a public right of way, you can record all you want, with or without consent
The last story: The husband is the a hole,for not giving wife her place and instead giving it to his entitled mother. His marriage will end soon and it will be his fault. He can go share his bed with his mom. 💩😡😡🤬
I heard a story last week where the bride, searching for the groom to get the wedding started, found her STBH being *NURSED* BY HIS MOTHER IN THE MEN'S ROOM!! The dude was in his THIRTIES, FFS!!! **NURSEÐ**!!!
@@nancythane5672YIKES AND DAMN!!!🤮😱😨🥺😳🤯😵🤢😬
@@nancythane5672hopefully she broke up with him.
@@nancythane5672 Tf?
The last story. No not the a hole. In fact. Visit her house and tell her that she should sleep on the couch so that they can sleep in the master bedroom so they can lock it. If she says no. Start complaining about the hypocrisy and how she only wants to snoop in people's personal belongings. That or buy some........ahem....... adult toys and dolls without the husband knowing. When she visits. Take out personal stuff. Put the adult toys around and hide the adult dolls in there. Let her snoop and let her see them and be scared. Also stick in some road kills and some other stuff.
Or a simple option. She can divorce her mama’s boy husband and that will be the end of that.
Or a few "jack in the box" type jump scares. 😂 Just make sure you hide a camera or two with audio to catch the fun.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And keep your jewelry, important papers and valuables locked up.
I like your way of thinking 😈
@@HarryFrost-qu8thor possibly just annull the marriage.
Last story, I had the opposite. For my birthday, my mom invited me over, and she decided without asking me that; since it's my birthday; I deserved to sleep in her bedroom instead of the usual guest room. I was honestly shocked and told her "No way I sleep in your bed!". She didn't understand and insisted that I would sleep better in her bedroom, but I didn't let it slip and slept in the guest room. That was really creepy to be offered that. It is even more creepy to ask for it!
You don’t live at the house, you don’t get to chose where you sleep. The mother in law could have had her own room! With a bed! Why did she want to sleep in the bed as her son and his wife? Messed up.
Last story. OP, if you didn’t divorce that guy yet, do so now. That relationship is NOT worth staying in.
Story 4: Honestly, if it was because OP was young and Linda was one of those that looks down on the younger generation and sees all of them as criminals, it would make sense. Like, OP did nothing against Linda, it was simply OP existing in the same building as her that made her mad and want them gone as soon as possible
People like her just need to mind their own business. Smh. I felt for OP.
@@LoveOnTheInsidex3i agree, because that old bat apparently didn’t know the 2 Rules of Business, Rule #1- Mind Your Own Business, and Rule #2- Stay The Hell Out Of Mine
Last story. You need to divorce that momma's boy.
Last story: I don't understand how people like the husband in that story end up married. He clearly just wants to be with his mommy. And yes, I mean in that way.
Story Last. Is OP's husband married to OP or to his Mom? To OP, this behaviour will never end! OP better get used to being a distant second to MIL in her husband's eyes.
Last story, ops possible future ex husband should have defended op. The mother was a guest In their house she gets a guest bedroom or she can sleep elsewhere
Absolutely not the AH, WHY does mother in law need the master bedroom? Maybe she’s looking for daughter in laws Lingerie? How sickening.🤢🤢🤮🤮 Husband needs to know Mommy is jealous of what the wife and her son enjoy in privacy. Mommy is a sick puppy and new wife needs to reconsider her position in her marriage. 22:44 22:44
#3 besides being out of line calling the police it makes me wonder if she has the onset of dementia. When you consider that she locked her car door right away and started crying, always calling police because of noise, these are some of the signs.
True, she could be having full on hallucinations.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. :/
Last story: "he then reminded me that it's our bedroom, not just mine"
If that had been said to me, I'd remind him that yeah, it's OUR bedroom, not his mother's, so what the (bleep) makes her think she has the right to kick me out of it?
PSA: Always have security cameras if you have an HOA, Karen or Kevin...anywhere in the area. Always call police if crimes are committed against you or your property.
Story 2: Always press charges. Do NOT allow the crazy guy to set foot on the property. Hire someone to repair the damages at his expense. Tow the dozer as well.
Story 3: That moment she called the cops on them when they were not even home is the moment I stopped giving any fucks about what OP did back in retaliation.
Story 6: OP is NTA. OP had every right to not be kicked out of her own marriage bed by anyone...MIL (and husband) were both outrageously entitled & inappropriate.
Last story: MIL's behavior is not at all okay. It's creepy. Like Fluff, I don't doubt she was all set for a night of snooping.
Something her son (he's no decent sort of husband!) said really bothers me: "It's OUR bedroom, not just yours." Yeah, so doesn't that mean BOTH of them need to consent to MIL occupying it? Because otherwise it's effectively just HIS bedroom.
If it were me, I would have gotten petty about it. Either agree with her sleeping in there, but so am I... or agree to let her sleep in there, but only after I move all MY stuff to the guest room (which will just happen to take all damned night).
The old cop-calling karen likely had some kind of dementia - sure sounds like paranioa and overwhelming fear. Should have referred her to a mental health support service.
Maybe or she was just a major Karen who’s angry.
@@LoveOnTheInsidex3 tbh calling the cops on a completely empty, silent house really speaks to having auditory hallucinations
yeah, that old bat needs to get a long-term ‘reservation’ in the nearest “Banana Cabana”
Honestly, I've met many, many senior citizens who were just complaining jerks. I worked for the State of IL for 12 year's as a traveling nurse for Medicaid patients who needed wound management which had me meet with an array of clients of all ages. Wound management client's were mostly paraplegics and quadrapelegics, a lot of bed sores that come along with the territory. Later, I'm now in my 40s, I switched to private duty nursing for EXTREMELY wealthy people who were paying my agency 5 grand minimum a week to have me there and I can tell you these spoiled seniors were the absolute worst! They were entitled and downright mean to me when I was there to help them. It was 58.00 an hour plus 13¢ a mile, time and half on holidays and weekends and I took all those shifts, nights as well, only for the pay... Not the people. I had one spoiled rotten women actually call her veterinarian for her crusty white dog and tell him that the dog was acting funny and wasn't right ever since I got there, the dog hated me apparently, and I had only been there maybe an hour and the dog was constipated for 3 days. I was the reason for it all... I had another one call someone she knew 30 minutes after I arrived look me right in the eye as she told this person that I "took a piece a cake out of the kitchen and stood there starring at her while I ate it laughing at her", literally NONE of that happened. They giggled about their lies, they thought it was funny to be mean to someone, there was nothing mentally deficient about these people, they were just horrible spoiled country club wives who were monsters in the 60s and still are today.
@@ryotedeschi6626 that’s a good point
Story 5: if there is an accident, just start recording. My dad got hit by someone last year and I just started recording...and it caught the lady up in a ton of lies. Just start recording, if nothing of note happens you can delete it....but if something does happen, you will be so glad you have proof.
Story 5 - In this social media obsessed modern society… yeah it is a good idea to get a dashcam for your car and immediately start recording when crap like this happens.
I really wish every car came with them. It would stop a lot of the scammers who deliberately cause accidents trying to get a payout.
Story 2 - People really need to study their property lines are. It’ll save a lot of headaches and money.
A lot of them could be out by anywhere from inches to a hand or two. If they are, your acreage could be discrepant by a square rod or two.
Last Story - OP is NTA. That kinda behavior is really really REALLY disturbing. And if the husband wants to sleep in the same bed with his mommy then by all means let him… after OP divorces him.
Last story is infuriating. Hoping OP divorces this mama boy and his horrible family.
What kind of guest would demand to stay in your bed with the door locked? A Just-no-mother-in-law! OP needs to sit down with hubby & talk about how dysfunctional his mom is to want to sleep in THEIR bed & possibly going through their stuff during the night! He needs to realize he's not married to his mom & that they're a family now. If he doesn't agree to couple's counseling, he needs to understand that they can't have a healthy marriage if MIL's constantly going to come between them like this.
first story:
that neighbour was so entitled that they committed vandalism. I can't be-oh wait, i can.
Story 4: I lived for two years in an HOA gated community. Full of married/retired couples. My roommates and I (no one married but all working) never had any parties, get togethers, and barely talked to ANYONE there. And *still* in the last few months, some busybodies lodged a handful of complaints: we had a cat in the crawl space above our unit (no, I’m allergic and there’s no way to segregate the rooms), we removed the numbers on our door (no, it’s a freaking renovated high school - our numbers are ABOVE the door), we improperly disposed of something (no, the dumpster sign literally said EITHER inside it or on the curb outside the fence). And these complaints went to our landlord who lives in another state and not us directly. Landlord just….wtf’d that. Didn’t believe any of it. Thank sanity we got outta dodge.
2nd story: ALWAYS. PRESS. CHARGES. Most of them don't learn their lesson anyway, so one might as well inconvenience them as much as humanly possible.
Guests are supposed to listen to their host if there's a medical reason why they need to have the bedroom then yeah sure. If you like it only has the closest bathroom in the house for medical reasons for sure but not let them dictate what they are going to have in your house that's just undermining being a guest is.
Even if you’re not in a 1 party state, record. You’re in public and recording is an inalienable right there. The one party consent is for private property only
Too many people don't realize what constitutes a public place.
@@SoManyRandomRamblings I think that's fairly obvious to figure out.
@@blastortoise we would like to think so....but the extensively numerous videos of people claiming private property to be public proves otherwise.
@@SoManyRandomRamblings Psychopaths are the exception, not the rule
@@blastortoise so you think there needs to be more of them???? I said there are too many of them. Weird that you would argue with that statement.
For op in the last story, a little advice get a divorce! You don’t need a momma’s boy for a husband.
Story 4: Let's ask say it together. False Accusers NEED to serve the sentence the Falsely Accused would have had they been convicted.
"..saying I disrespected his mom who was a GUEST at our house.." (quote)
Yes, exactly. She was a guest - and not the home owner. She's totally entitled - and also imho very creepy wanting to sleep in her son's and his wife's bed..
1) Happy for OP to get this great opportunity for some retribution.
2) Glad there was a happy ending for OP's friends.
3) After harassing OP, she got her just desserts. Age is no excuse for being such an AH.
4) Well done OP, I'm glad this worked out to his benefit.
5) Dash cams are a good thing. Glad OP had one.
6) Husband would not be sleeping in the bed with me any time soon after him taking his mother's part over her outrageous request. OP, it's time to file for a divorce from this momma's boy and get away from him and his family of AHs.
story #1. OP says his sticker was scraped off. The municipality of whomever issues those stickers would KNOW that it had been paid and now it was gone. OP shouldn't have to be threatened because SOMEONE SCRAPED IT OFF.
For the last story, as someone whose mother lives with them, let me say this - Mother doesn't come into My room, and I don't go into hers.
I have a next door neighbor who has a nice victorian home out of which a bed and breakfast is run. She is a " my way or the highway" type of person. Now, we dont have a fence to the alley out back, nor do we have a front fence dividing our properties. What divides our property out front is lilac bushes and arborvitaes. Now, i dont throw organic matetial in the trash, i put in in the compost in the back yard. So scraps of food, bread, etc will go in the compost pile. The other day, the neighbor came over and informed me that i couldn't put food in my compost because her dog was eating it. So her dog come in to my yard, and eats food from my compost pile and somehow, thats my problem.
17:52 - it took him that long to figure out that this was an insurance scam? Like the fact that the woman called her niece and her niece's husband and not the police and the fact that the niece kept saying just give us money we don't want to go through Insurance none of those were red flags that this is an insurance scam? Come on where's the common sense? oh wait..... that isn't too common anymore these days is it?😂😂😂😂😂
Common sense is so rare it is a super power these days.
For years now I have honestly felt that every person NEEDS to have their own bodycam (so their phone is free in case of emergency) and ALL cars should have a Sentinel System (like Teslas have) because it has come to the point where everyone needs that insurance.
OP & MIL who visited unannounced & wanted to sleep in her room with the door locked:
First & foremost, my Parents knew that they had to call me before just 'dropping by' or I wouldn't let them into my apartment, period.
Second, when you visit people for overnight stays, your hosts are the ones who assign you a place to sleep. If you don't like your hosts' arrangements, get a damn hotel room.
The Son is a spineless wonder. Who the hell allows anyone to just 'drop by' especially with the expectation of staying overnight?
That MIL has some damn nerve. I wonder how she would react if OP & her Son showed up at her house, & said, "We're staying overnight, in your bedroom, with the door locked."
And as far as the other family members are concerned, mind your own damn business.
Story 6: OK, so I'm 37 and have a good relationship with my mom. She still likes to baby me sometimes, but that's just from wanting to feel needed. She still respects boundaries and even admits when she messes up. But THIS pair, it's like they're walking and talking red flags! OP has nothing to feel guilty about. She recognized suspicious behavior and acted accordingly. She should have one of her parents come over unannounced, make that same request, and then look to see what her husband says. If he says no, he's a hypocrite. If he says yes, then he doesn't have much of a sense of caution. This is something that really shouldn't be ignored.
We had a neighbor like the one in story3, except she wasn't old. She'd call the office on us several times a day and complain about the noise my kids were making. At some point, her grandkids moved in with her and there was screaming, yelling, cursing, loud music among other things. When other residents complained, she'd lie and say that it was us. Finally the office called saying that if we didn't quiet down, they would start eviction processes. We told them that no one was home and for them to go to our apartment if they didn't believe us. They never bothered us again, but the neighbor had to move out6 months later. (sorry for the long comment)
I've read longer comments than yours so there is no shame in posting paragraphs.
Last story: the husband really needs to divorce his mother if he wants to stay married to his wife.
Emotional incest, much?
Last story: Op's husband is 34 years old and no one has cut the umbilical cord yet. I'll bet he can taste what mom is eating.
Wow story 4 is wild! Can’t imagine living for years with that going in. I had a neighbor who also made all sorts of false accusations to try to get me evicted/arrested and it was as pure hell& she didn’t even have any actual power like their neighbor! However I think it’s shocking how dumb all those other neighbors are, no one knows how to look up court cases?!
S6: Maybe don’t date a much older guy who puts his mommy before you.
This is probably why he was still single and decided to marry a younger woman while thinking that the younger woman would be more submissive.
There's definitely an age difference, but I would call the husband "much older." Certainly not an inter-generational marriage...
Men are more financially equipped at older ages than they are in their 20s. Women have a shorter time to get everything in order to have a career and start to have a family compared to men. That's one of the reasons why men seem more immature in their 20s compared to women.
When my mom was house sitting for my oldest brother and she REFUSED to sleep in there bed, even though they were offering, because, and I quote, "I know what they have done in that bed" and left it at that.
I am issuing a counter complaint whenever I was contacted by the police. Also if OP didn't do it then she would have gone off on Op something else came up.
Last story: 100% Not the A-hole. I can see that some old people might feel entitled that they deserve the best room/bed but I have also heard of some overbearing Mils wanting to snoop into the bedroom to see what kind of "Sinful" things they are getting into because they don't actually approve of the spouse and are looking for a way to get rid of them. Hubby is 100% a mama's boy and needs to let go of his mother. OP IMHO needs to have a nice long talk with Hubby and lay down the law, followed by protecting her own assets. She might need to kick him to the curb or abandon that toxic landfill.
Story 3) Old woman.
From what I heard I'll say YTA.
WHY?
I'm fairly certain from her reaction to OP's wife attempted approach and OP kicking her his door as she past it, all this tells me this old lady was scared. All her calls for imagined violations was simply her way to try and keep people from staying.
What should have happened by the second or third time, should have been a police chaperoned introduction with actual offers of help from OP and his wife.
Too many older women who live alone after the passing of their husbands or close male relative that let them feel protected and now feel vulnerable and are scared of their own shadows. Realistically this old lady should be living in an independent living senior facility, where she would be surrounded by people her age that she might trust more. The issue I think was she'd lived in her apartment for years and as we know, the news whether local or national, if it bleeds it leads. This can wear on the minds of people as they age and feel less capable of defending themselves.
Not like the widows of farmers who will drag out the old 12 gauge to take out a varment when they were 80 years old.
I admit there can be some pretty nasty old biddies who are just plain iron core b*tches but most are nice but a bit paranoid about home invasions and what appear to be not nice or uncaring people.
Last story. He even said "it's our bed room" and "she's a guest" but still displaces himself for her and thinks op has no right to her own bedroom. What f***ed up logic is that. If she's a guest then she can use the f***ing guest room right. The guy is so the ahole. And I would be throwing those words back at him.
As someone who worked 35 years as a RN I completely agree that old Karen’s and Ken’s exist and not only do they exist but they’ve had years to get better at being Karen’s and Ken’s and this is why you might notice why these folks have no one who come to see them.
What a coincidence, just sat down for a break at work and DING new Dark Fluff.
Same, always makes Monday brighter when DF posts
Last guy is a total mamas boy, he'll always put his mom over hisnwife sadly.
Last story - I’d just make sure that if my MIL insisted on staying in my bedroom, then she would get my cats, their litter tray, a water bowl, some kibble and a can of air freshener for her night locked in the room with them and to enjoy her ‘sleep’, knowing full well she wouldn’t get any !
I’m actually single but my cats sleep on my bed at night and I leave the door open so they can come and go to use their litter tray and eat/drink. Loxie, my 9 year old ginger cat sleeps on my bed the most, but she also wakes up at 4am and wakes me up in the process by walking all over me and drooling on my head ! She loves me so much ❤️🤣😂
My dog sleeps in bed with me. If my mother tried to kick me out of my own bedroom, she would either be shoved face first into the guest room or finding a hotel for the night.
I'm curious how long the last OP and her husband dated before marrying. There's no way they could have hidden such massive red flags from her for long so either they barely saw his family before marrying or they dated for a very short period. Because that Oedipus complex is strong.
story 4, the board members must have been thinking, 'Oh, crap. This guy could literally save our lives. We're lucky to have him living here.'
Story 3: No wonder that apartment was vacant for so long!
First story:
In that story one might consider putting up a sign that says: "On street parking is for witches, All others will be TOAD."
Years ago my grandparents moved from the city, to a small " hobby farm" following my grandfather's retirement, we kids spent a good amount of time there, and made friends with some of the local kids, all was good except for one neighbor, an elderly woman who lived alone, who absolutely hated kids, ( even though the neighbors on both sides of her and directly across the street from her had them) every time she saw us any where near her property line, she would call the sheriff, walk past her house at night, she'd call the sheriff, swim in the neighbors pool late in the evening, call the sheriff, be riding the neighbors horses through the fields behind her property, call the sheriff, if she saw us going hunting, ( during hunting season) call the sheriff, and on and on, aud nauseam, well one evening, we had gone fishing, in a nearby lake that had some really big trout,our foray was successful, and we caught several beauties, the night before we had been hanging out with her neighbors daughters by their pool listening to some quiet music, snacking having a few soft drinks, and just enjoying, the summer weather, and being mellow, and who should appear, you've got it the sheriff! This nasty old piece of work, had called them, complaining that, our music was too loud, the girls were indecently exposing them selves, ( they were wearing two piece bathing suits but not bikinis or thongs, that wouldn't come into fashion until years later) that we were drinking, and we were out after curfew, ( in this rural area there was no such thing as a curfew) when the sheriff saw for himself that none of these things were even remotely true, he apologized for the disturbance and left, cue our revenge, as we were cleaning our catch my buddy had an idea, taking the biggest of the trout, he cut its head off, propped open its mouth with tooth picks like it was going to bite, waited for dark, and placed it into the old lady's roadside mail box, early the next morning as we met up with my buddy in his garage, getting ready to go to our part time jobs on a nearby farm, ( it was haying season, and we hired out to a local farmer, in exchange for pocket money, and hunting privileges) when the old hag, came out, to get her paper, and put some mail in the box, as she did almost every morning, when she opened the box, her scream could be heard in the next county, what happened next was even more hilarious, she ran into her house, emerged with an old shotgun, and blew her mailbox to pieces, another neighbor, called the sheriff thinking that the old lady had finally lost it, screaming, while waving the gun around, the sheriff was quick to respond, and wound up laughing his head off after he saw the remains of her mailbox, with the trout head still being in recognizable condition he confiscated the shotgun, ( since 1968 our state has required a state police issued firearms owners identification card in order to legally possess guns or ammunition, something the old lady didn't have, thus the confiscation) after which, he approached us still laughing, and said only " Boy's I know you've got more than enough reason to dislike, this old bat, but take it easy on her will ya she almost had a heart attack! Before leaving still laughing his head off.
Story 3: I actually once had some episodes with my downstairs neighbour complaining to me about rather constant pounding that he heard from my apartment. I even went with him into his apartment where he had me listen because he could still hear it. When I told him I couldn't (and yes I was being honest about that) he was quite disappointed. I ended up coming down to him with the wine I got from my work as a Christmas present that year as a sign of good will. A week or two later he told me that he had ended up going to the doctor because he realized there could actually be something wrong with him. As far as I recall the reason for it was that a nerve in his ear had gotten too close to a blood vessel. And what he actually heard was his own heartbeat. I really felt sorry for him during the whole ordeal and that didn't lessen that. He was the sweetest guy. I think he still lives down there. But I haven't seen or heard from him in a couple of years. This is just to say that a neighbour complaining unreasonably about noise doesn't have to mean said person is an a**hole. They might just be ill.
Last story: NTA, that isn't a "Mum said so, so do it" situation. That's an "everyone agrees or it ain't happening" situation. And if she fired back with "I'm his mother, so do it" or something, just rebut with "and his mother is a guest in our home, not the boss of the house".
Good afternoon, all. If you're in the US, I hope you have your shopping complete for turkey day.
Story #3: I do want to point out that it's entirely possible for someone to need to use a device like a walker or wheelchair to reduce pain, but still be able to walk or even hurry short distances without using it. That short dash without using the assistance can cost a lot of pain later on. But none of this is an excuse for the woman's abusive behaviour overall.
Story 3: Yeap, age does not change people, usually. Most often the AH:s are the ones who stay much the same year after year, decade after decade. I am trying to make an exception to this rule on my part. Wish me luck! Please.
He said he used the vacuum as cover. Would have been so easy to just say he must have bumped the door with the vacuum and, of course, he couldn't hear her in the hallway over the noise of the machine. THAT would have been a better use of the vacuum as cover.
During the 7 years ive lived in my apartment, ive had 3 different neighbors that had the apartment right on my bedroom walls. One side is their bathroom and the other is the kitchen. I know this from the sounds i can hear lol. Ive only had a real problem with one of them. A woman that would constantly play music really loud from 11pm to 6am, or constantly screaming at someone who was either visiting or on the phone. Usually from her bathroom, right next to my head while im trying to sleep. Once i went over at 2 am to politely ask her to turn the music down. I knocked and she yelled "Who the f is knocking on my door at 2am" she opened, i explained that im her neighbor, its late, and to please tuen the music down. She cut me off with a short "yeah" and slammed the door, but did turn it down a little, but not much. Then the next time she was in the bathroom, taking a shower while yelling at somebody, so i knocked on the wall. You know, the universal sign that i can hear you and youre being a little loud. Well she beats on the wall 10x harder with her fist back. So i just say that im trying to sleep. She then yells back about how much she pays in rent (i pay more) and that she basically can do whatever she wants. I record the whole thing and send it to my landlord. She was gone a week later. The guy befror her was super nice and i hardly ever heard him, even in the bathroom. He even once apologized for having his tv up loud while watching a movie, even though i never heard a thing. Paid me $20 to borrow my wifi on a temporary guest account for a night just to watch Netflix. The guy thats in there now is most likely hard of hearing, his tv is up a little loud at night and his guests talk loudly during the day, but nothing that i cant drown out with the sound from a fan. You know, regular apartment noises. If you have a problem with your neighbors, talk to them about it first. Only when you know they are just jerks and dont care about anyone but themselves, should you complain to someone higher up to take care of it.
Story 4 reminded me of something I heard a while back.
"See this kids? This is how you stir up shit."
Parked car vs motorhome story: Comes under the heading of play stupid games...
Bulldozer story: So what was the neighbor trying to get/prove out of this? Or was he just trying to bulldoze the owners? And where did he get the bulldozer?
Dash cam story: OP, make sure you back up that dash cam footage. You may need it.
Whose bedroom is it story: NTA! MIL was absolutely going to use that as an opportunity to go thru your personal things and effects to spy on you OP. You don't go into someone else's home and DEMAND the master bedroom and to lock it when there's a perfectly acceptable guest bedroom. What was she hoping to find? Who knows? The bigger question is why did you marry this mommy's boy who will never take your side over hers?
Story 6: NTA OP needs to run fast and far from that family. If this is only months after they were married it will only get worse
There's likely an easement in place for that driveway. I say wait til it's gonna rain, then file to end the easement. Let him drive up the mud. 🤠
Story three: this old lady in her seventies doesn't think anybody should have to put up with harassment. Old age is no excuse for acting like an ostomy bag.
I genuinely feel bad for the woman in story 3. I mean the crying? It honestly seemed like she really did think someone would attack her. Feels more like extreme paranoia issues that probably indicate something worse like dementia rather than just being awful. Makes me wonder why she was just in an apartment alone,, I really really hope she got help after being kicked out if it was that :/
The easily annoyed older woman in #3 is very likely in early stages of dementia: highly reactive and little emotional control. It's not a behavior of aging in general.
Last story and Fluff's question about would I let my MIL sleep in my bed. LOL, at this point in our relationship, I wouldn't even let MIL in the house if she was homeless and everyone else in the family turned her away.
That last story, OP is NTA, but I would have taken it a step further.
If she gets to sleep in my bed when visiting, it's only fair she has to do the same when you visit them. Isnt it? All she wanted to do is snoop. Fight fire with fire!
Last story- Even if the person’s house you’re visiting is your child’s, it’s still someone else’s house- why on earth would you specify request to sleep in their bed and then get angry when they say no?
Also the husband’s reasoning that the bedroom ‘belongs to them both’ is a completely unjustified point since the room also belongs to the wife by his reasoning and she doesn’t want to leave. He completely contradicted himself and OP needs to have some serious discussions about boundaries when it comes to MIL
I'm a Senior now and I agree with Fuff. Aging does not come with AH rights of any kind. By reaching a Senior age, one shold have learned how to behave in public, how to interact with other people, and that kindness is free. If someone acts nasty, I always recall my Mum's reaction to this when I was a child. She would say "They must have had burnt toast for breakfast."
Last Story: Every know-and-then my parents, older couple, take a mini vacation; so it is up to me (older sibling, no cats) to babysit their cat. THERE IS NO (НЕТ, NEIN, NEI, ⛔,🚫) WAY I am going to sleep in their bedroom. >>Full body shiver.
I was thinking the same thing as darkfluff for the first story. The neighbor most likely did it.
I definitely think the neighbour was the one who scraped the sticker off
Some people just target young people because it's easy. Had a neighbour target me for all sorts of ridiculous complaints (like my dog barking in the middle of the night when I didn't have a dog) because I was young and living alone in a sizable apartment.
What she didn't know was that the apartment used to belong to my grandmother, and the only reason I could afford to live there was because the family agreed I could move in to care for the place after my grandmother's death while we got everything sorted out..
4th story: Id still preasure the board. they jumped to conclusions based on rumors, if op wasnt smart. they'd illegally evict him based on her "assumptions". if Linda wasnt a board member....would they have taken her word for it? what if op was simply having friends over...or op couldnt get the letter. op wouldve been either:
-evicted
-harrassed by other neighbors
If I lived alone in a place with one bedroom and a guest showed up, then yeah I might take the couch and let them sleep in my bed. If I had another bedroom, then that is where they would go, no compromises. If they demanded to take the master bed, whether I had a guest room or not, I would offer to let them sleep anywhere in the world, as long as its on the other side of my locked front door. If I'm living with a significant other and share the bedroom, then the guest can eff the eff off if they don't like the sleeping arrangements we offer. Also, its OUR bedroom, meaning consent must come from both parties before making the offer of a trade.
8 seconds! I can never click these fast enough. Excited to listen!!
I swear, in that last story, I’d have started calling that pathetic excuse for a husband Oedipus and called him that until he grew a spine. Wants to be called ‘hubby?’ Nope. Oedipus. Wants to be called ‘dear?’ Nope. Oedipus. Wants to be called ‘honey?’ Nope. Oedipus.
Probably better to just call him Ex.