While I’m extremely excited for Ashe’s of creation to release, I must say you have kept me interested in its development more than any other content creator!! Keep up the great work
Please feel free to correct or add to anything I may have missed in today's video to help anyone new to the project understand the implications of this brand new Unreal Engine 5 LANDFORM TOOL! (I appreciate everyone for continuing to watch these videos despite the fact that I have no actual content!) additionally, come and join the discussion for this highly anticipated MMORPG in our discord: discord.gg/muwNp8NhbB
What they are utilising is something called vertex painting. It's certainly not a new technology by any means and has many uses. You'll mainly see it used to add variation to textures, for example adding flaking areas to paint/plaster. I've not seen it used in the way they're using it here, to vertex paint and then displace based on the height map of the texture, but since unreal has all the bits integrated to enable this, I think they've just connected some dots rather than do anything revolutionary. I'm actually going to try and replicate this functionality myself since it appears they're just using a masked RVT to determine displacement within the modelling tools. Unreal engine 5 is going to be great. Emphasis on going to be. Its still quite a way off being really usable at scale. Sure, you can use nanite for static meshes, but you still need to use traditional LOD methods for foliage, animated meshes and anything transparent such as large water bodies. There's many other things which are going to take a year or two within UE5 to really get to a place where they're mainstream usable.
@@edwardkeirle4453 I have exactly oposite knowledge, most tutorials i know use heightmaps in some way with vertex paiting to make blending more natural. Because as you said, there is everything already there. th-cam.com/video/86vm_m0_YbQ/w-d-xo.html for example
My dude... congrats on what ever happened. Hope to get a reveal on your situation. I dont remember when i started following you but i watched you for a few weeks before i subbed. Below 10k im for certain. You rock dude bro.
My take on unreal 5 and the tools intrepid studios are building is that the tools themselves, once they've proven their title is as epic as they think it is, can be sold off to other development studios for a tidy profit, and make an improvement in the industry itself, something Steven has said multiple times that he wants to do, not just make his game
100% this. Nothing wrong with selling their work to anyone making a single player game......pretty sure theu wouldn't license any new mmo's to use it lol
@@nordy259 UE5 has some interesting ideas on how to capitalise their engine. For the most part UE5 works closely with devs in creating tools. The licence in most cases does not prevent UE5 from simply adding those tools into their core product that anyone can use. UE5 then takes a piece of the games ongoing turnover as payment instead of a set fee. It makes the engine incredibly accessible to both large studios and independent developers with an ever increasing pool of development tools at their disposal. It will be very interesting to see just how that works moving forward.
so many people dont realise that often times in the process of making something look nicer AND come out faster, that also includes optomising it to make it as accessible as possible not even necessarily intentionally but the first two often bring in the third as a necessary bi-product just throught the nature of optimization as so many things in all professions that dont look to nice and or arent the best often are that way purely because they arent optimized properly
UE5 is the future, incredibly smart of Intrepid to be taking time to make these tools while still in development. These decisions will compound throughout the project and even beyond post release. Also W for good channel growth, cheers to 30k!
Dude I really like your point of view and the ideas you provide on these videos, I just wish you could turn up the sound volumen on them, I always have to mute my tv every time an add pops up xD
I'm so stoked, thanks for keeping the updates flowing! I had watched a few of your videos about this game and wound up pre-purchasing it just a couple weeks ago to be able to get into the next alpha and betas.
UE5 is definitely shining light on the future of game development through its optimization features. We're reaching a point where consumers can't realistically keep throwing more and more power in their PCs for performance. I'm very interested in UE5 benchmarks for GPUs/CPUs that are a couple of generations old.
I think that UE5 can help with old GPUs but still it is more about future. I mean if you buy new graphic cards now they should be relevant for many more years with UE5 games. Maybe combination of UE5 and DLSS or FSR should made even older cards relevant too, so ashes should definitely implement these technologies. Currenly I have pretty average card from amd, but thanks to FSR I can play CP2077 on more than 60 fps with 2k resolution and with max settings.
I love a lot of things about your content, & hope you are open to one idea: -love the humor, sarcasm, often the writing, etc. -I'd honestly love to see you put as much potential as you have, to really geek out after an update and release an equally silly length video of 30-45m - perhaps trying to really build on some more massive themes occasionally. A dissection of sorts with a keen eye for detail in your style would be fun - even if you did end up with more ad breaks.
I don't know much about how powerful those engines are but what I like is that they seem really want to create a mmo they'd love to play and I looking forward it.
U5 is stellar for just about anyone these days IF you take the time to learn it. I think it will surpass everyone's expectations and then some. The tools they are creating is just extra bank for them down the line when they offer them to the market. Like I've said before Steven ain't no dummy. He's hard-headed and stubborn enough to make this thing work come hell or high water. I'm glad they made the switch if anything we get the game sooner than later now. Keep the great vids coming!
Ashes news and coverage has been dope lately specifically because of the UE5 update, for me at least. I wasn't nearly as excited about or interested in the title before. They're in a unique position to show off so many of these tools on a big scale before most others. A testament to their transparent design process.
I think Ashes of Creation will be the ultimate test for both Intrepid and Epic in terms of proving the capabilities of Nanite tech. It's one thing to render in a single player game, it's another when you have to optimize in an MMO. I'm honestly optimistic though, if there were any real major issues popping up, I think they'd have switched gears by now.
Respectfully disagree. Single player games can crank graphics to crazy town, since there's less pressure to make it competitive to everyone. Hiding in a bush that doesn't render to others is not a thing in single players
This is it. AoC is my last hope for a great MMORPG to really get into. It all looks fantastic and sounds almost too good to be true. I pray Steven and this team deliver and it doesn't fall into the hype-train and hit us with anything that is pay to win. I look forward to it and hope they take all the time it takes to make this special. It will take over the lionshare of this market if they stay true to what they have been saying/developing. It all looks amazing.
I think one of ashes biggest strengths may also prove to be one of its biggest weaknesses when it releases. No matter how good everything may end up being, Steven has said this himself, they are making a game that isn't for everyone. With that comes the unfortunate reality of creating a niche game. What remains to be seen is based on their design choices, just how niche it will be. They could still be wildly successful, just not as successful as if they targeted a broader audience. That too comes with heavy detriment, and could land them in the very spot most mmos end up in which is mediocrity. My wife and I are stoked for the game, nearly everything said and shown off looks and sounds great. But for my wife in particular if the pvp is too painful she won't give it the time of day. She doesn't have an aggressive pvp competitive bone in her body, but the crafting systems, animal husbandry, freeholds, and economic systems, heavily interest her. She could probably spend countless hours exploring and gathering materials, raising unique animals and farming. But if she is ganged consistently throughout that process her and many like her will not find enjoyment in the game, and IMO as someone who enjoys challenging content and that sense of danger, even i don't enjoy what typically turns sadistic internet trolling in open pvp games. A2 will be a big determining factor for a lot of people, the majority of players, statistically, on whether they like where the pvp systems stand.
@@Splincir I don't think the pvp will be as bad as everyone is making it put to be, yes, at the start you're going to have your asshats trying the system, bit after a week or two I think things will simmer down and be just fine. Besides there is going to be a TON of stuff to do besides fight each other. But, just remember don't travel alone, Especially if your out gathering something precious and worth money...and THAT is where the hired mercenaries come into play. Protect your back and be smart and I think you will have a grand time. Also, news travels fast...a true pk'er won't last long, his/her reputation will blow up quick and he/she will die ALOT. You also have the bounty hunters to pick up the slack as well...I do hope you and your wife have a grand time in Vera! Hope to see you in game soon!
@@Splincir I really don't think PVP will be as prevalent as people think, traveling the world alone would reduce PVPers because most people want to be able to kill the same person over and over again until the person quits, if they have to travel to find different people most people don't like that. Also the reprocussions for being a PKer are pretty harsh, not being allowed in nodes (which is the main part of the game), bounty hunters chasing you and they can see you but you can't see them, reduced damage and reduced defence, the chance to lose the good armor and weapons that make you more powerful then other people. PVP will still happen but I doubt it's going to happen a lot and if it does it won't last long at all, I would say keep an open mind about PVP, it's a necessary part of the game, and when it isn't necessary it is very punishable for the person who commits to PVP against a non combatant
@@Splincir I’m not interested in a frame perfect, hyper optimized, always super balanced esports worthy pvp. If I wanted that I could play league or wow. I want the MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER to come into my next mmo. I want to go adventuring with my buddies online again. I want to have a developing server wide conflict. I want to have community. Pvp is one aspect of building that. I LOVE pvp, but it isn’t everything. As long as it’s not so unbalanced that it’s rage inducing, I’m happy.
They might have to customize all the asses in the map, but more than one artist can work on the same section of map at a time, so development is greatly enhanced. Having seasons and weather-related transitions will make the maps feel dynamic. I hope they make enough variations in mobs, so you don't see copy past of the same mobs over and over. I also want to see some crazy Verticality to some of the map. I would like to see dynamic events though.
God I got copium all over me 😂 the effort you put into your intros 😂👌 when can I buy a can of copa cola? 👀😂 Congrats on the increase in subs! Fully deserved!!
Maybe I missed something, but in that video, they just shown regular Vertex Painting and material mixing from UE toolkit. Also, Epic was known to showcase these desert rocks also in UE5 previews, because they looks incredible, but it's also realy easy to make tons of these good looking desert stones.
What scares me about nanite is the 20GB+ monthly MMO texture/downloads/updates that would make PS5 developers envious. Who knows what the new customer download size will be 5 years down the road, not just the terrabytes needed for it. Overcoming the performance window, by streamlining only what you want and only when you need it, does not negate the need for the RAW level of detail to still exist in a state to streamline.
Unreal 5's capabilities are as stunning as they are efficient. The good news is the graphics look great... the better news, the mmorpg genre isn't about flashy visuals as much as a compelling word... WoW classic was very popular despite 2004 graphics.
Yep. Was :) nostalgic feelings made classic possible and very well received, but after a while it just dies off as its the same old game everyone has done playing.
@@willo1345 ok :) Just seemed to me u were talking about optimizing assets. Not code. Of course I wasnt talking about general optimization, of code and similar details. Just what nanites does at a poligonal level, and how it generally allows for smoother workflow without as much "asset specific" graphical optimization. Which in ur video seemed to be explained a bit weird. But i haven't worked with it much so i could be wrong :)
Some corrections, those tools are UE5 Not Ashes tools (except what they talk about at the end... But all that is in UE5, right panel = outliner so wouldn't be surprised if its just UE5 again). At least what I have seen displayed. There are games that use nanite mostly on console not PC that put it through it paces (tl:dr UE5 is free until you hit 1 million profit Then you need to pay a royalty). So you can also download UE5 for FREE & load up templates that showcase on a grander scale than Ashes (current alpha 1) & emulate them, all listed on launcher if you want to see something more impressive that what is showcased. 8:17 is a good example of under modeling tools > Deform > Displace Simple, easy effective, Looks wrong if you doing environment artist up close, looks good far away e.t.c. They appear to be short cutting the rough & normals texture maps by just using modeling displacement, Which we used to shortcut by using megascans assets & pulling there textures & reusing them (or changing maps to just use the blue input), then adjusting it to give a more 3d effect. To answer the question you ask at the end "is UE really powerful enough to fulfill Stephens dreams" Answer is don't know about his dreams but its the one engine out there powerful enough to actually handle Modern day MMO's, Very surprised which how much they managed to get UE4 to render in the end when it wasn't really designed to do that (the many bears) But UE5 is designed to do that. Also a fun fact doing lighting in UE5 is PURE CANCER Feel sorry for the guy who is in charge of it!. UE5 (VFX Niagara) system will probably be the next showcased.
Nanite doesn't solve as many problems as you think it does (and probably solves more than the haters think). For example the terrain for the moment doesn't use it, nor does foilage (at least if your terrain isn't made out of instances of things). Also it can't be used on deforming meshes (such as player characters), of course the fixed stuff like swords / shields etc. can use it. The terrain / foilage is likely a solvable problem, the skinned/deforming meshes probably isn't. There's a reason that combat demo used rock golems... It also has a fairly large "minimum" spec, it scales really well after that and will likely work on the proverbial potatoe spec once Ashes ships. But you're likely talking 1080+ (or more realistically 3080+) so "low-end" certainly isn't in current hardware spec (U5 needs CPU/Mem more than UE4 did too). I think interpid replaced the network stack with their own, but UE5 has some great improvements there too.
On a side note, maybe for another video you can go into what to do concerning open world pvp. I'm still seeing posts about wanting to play but scared about the pvp aspect. I figured you could provide some insights since the game will be balanced around a group and not individually. I.e. if you go out alone in the world and you're gathering something of value take someone with you...via a mercenary, etc. Anywho, it's another vid for ya!
I appreciate the videos you are making. I my self am a nerd soaking up content and looking for the next MMO to scratch the itch I've had for the last few years. Will we be seeing videos of the caliber when we know more about the RIOT MMO? or will this channel focus purely on AoC?
I wonder how if the slime trail of a snorse creates a "stuck" or "knock-down" or "slide" effect. Imagine a strategy where a snorse could create a trail through the battlefield in which others could quickly slide to a key point.
Narc, been watching your videos for awhile and am getting so stoked for this game. I am an old school MMORPG'r (started way back in Ultima Online when I was like 11). It is by far my favorite genre, and it has gotten so bad. I mean, all games have gotten bad (it is almost like the devs don't even play games anymore, right?). To be fair, when streaming started taking off, I knew it was likely the beginning of the end. However, Ashes might just prove me wrong.
What’s messed up is the demand for a GOOD, addictive, immersive mmo is STILL THERE. Just no big name studios who have the clout and money to make it happen want to take a risk on it. It may be that ashes is the 2004 world of Warcraft, that revitalizes the genre, sets a new industry standard, and kicks all the big game companies in the dick. I hope, PRAY, that this game dethrones and kills wow, and big name studios actually have to strat making games GOOD again.
I am just honestly flabbergasted at how little they have revealed, and how good they are at keeping their lips sealed on where they are at in the process. I understand that they don't want to speculate and not deliver - but like any information at all would be really nice at this point. You and others say we are closer than we think to A1, but I think the opposite can be true as well. We haven't seen too many systems to type out. (Other class 1-10 trailers is an easy starter). I'm genuinely afraid that this game will take TOO long to come out some days.
I think they've said they try to keep details about systems on the DL bc theyre worried about systems being gamed by players far, far in advance. But they're also definitely in very early development regardless.
OK I am going to try and approach this a bit better. I am very excited and rooting for this game. I am a long time MMO fan. These are the games I enjoy. The technology is amazing. What the artists and programmers can achieve with the tools is what we have all been waiting for. It is exciting. They have very talented folks working on this game. We are being shown creative lifeforms that Wayne Barlowe and Guillermo would be proud of. What we are not seeing is the imaginary worlds for these creatures to live in. Example: We do not need another Barrens. Change the color on that rock formation and add some glowing bits maybe some big metals globes stuck halfway in. Change up the sky. Add vegetation that is as alien to us as the creatures. The world is like your friend getting the latest 3-D printer and printing a paper-thin model with a spreadsheet on it and going “look I have a 3-D printer.” OK so show us what it can really do. Do you think they will have the creative design link between world and creatures to transport us to Verra? As it stands Verra looks a lot like Earth. We appreciate your videos. Thanks, and keep them coming. Your intros are pretty fun.
Landform sounds great in theory. And sure it looks interesting and all Demos look cool. However the amount of assets required for a big world is tremendous. Making each individual creation easier is helpful but making it actually non repetitive can be a whole other ball game.
I'm sure they rely on some form of procedural generation. I believe we actually saw a bit of it on the rock formation itself. But this allows them to go in and sculpt what is generated to improve it without having to pull it out and load it on another app only to reapply it in engine and realizing another mistake they have to correct again.
I wonder if they could incorporate the Niagra into the Landform plugin, and how they could make it usable with the brush strokes, like Zbrush. That would definitely be unique, even Zbrush doesn't have that.
I was extremely excited until I seen the combat is going to be pretty much like every game before us. We need some action combat with assisted targeting. Combat like GW2 is alright, ESO failed the action combat, BDO overdid it, and the only game that sort of got close was Never Winter which turned into a P2W cesspool. Hoping to see Ashes find good middle ground, but I'm cautious to be optimistic here.
@Narc Serious question: How does AoC combat "The Zerg"? Notice my Account pic? It's a throwback to my days in WAR (Warhammer Online). The Zerg was real. The guild I was in DESTROYED 3 different servers and was working on our 4th when most of the guild just moved on to other games. This was BEFORE social media and streamers. Any organized large guild is going to be unstoppable...especially with the streamer worshipping spergs donating their very soul to pump up their favorite streamer. It won't stop at one server. They'll just move from server to server like locusts. IT HAPPENED BEFORE...it'll happen again...only worse. Until AoC addresses this VERY REAL problem nobody should be looking at this game...as pretty as it is. Also...FOMO. Grow some morals AoC.
@Hill (*facepalm) I'm looking for serious discussion. Not doomer hyperbole. You're a bad troll and a carebear. Stop trying and go play Hello Kitty Adventure Island. Open World PvP is the height of player MMO combat. I'm looking for answers from AoC about how they're going to disperse "The Zerg" and allow for actual server balanced combat that doesn't wreck servers. New World is the latest example. WAR was an older one.
I want to add that when we "moved" to another server...we didn't "transfer". We rolled from level 1. There were no "server transfers" back then I don't think...or we were to cheap to pay for them, or we wanted to give the server time to organize against us. Yes, we actually tried to help opposing guilds fight us. We WANTED a challenge...it never happened.
@Hill LMAO...I'm not a "fan" of any MMO right now. AoC has potential IF they can fix the problems of the past. I invited Narc to address the problem because he does have some creative and intelligent insights into the MMO genre. You...on the other hand, just hate PvP. You're an obvious carebear and very poor troll parroting what other carebears have been whining about for ages. Discussing solutions and not whining like a 2yr old dooming about a wet diaper are the way we gamers will get good games. What would YOUR solution be to the 600 man sperg zerg be?
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While I’m extremely excited for Ashe’s of creation to release, I must say you have kept me interested in its development more than any other content creator!! Keep up the great work
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hear hear!
Please feel free to correct or add to anything I may have missed in today's video to help anyone new to the project understand the implications of this brand new Unreal Engine 5 LANDFORM TOOL! (I appreciate everyone for continuing to watch these videos despite the fact that I have no actual content!)
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What they are utilising is something called vertex painting. It's certainly not a new technology by any means and has many uses. You'll mainly see it used to add variation to textures, for example adding flaking areas to paint/plaster.
I've not seen it used in the way they're using it here, to vertex paint and then displace based on the height map of the texture, but since unreal has all the bits integrated to enable this, I think they've just connected some dots rather than do anything revolutionary. I'm actually going to try and replicate this functionality myself since it appears they're just using a masked RVT to determine displacement within the modelling tools.
Unreal engine 5 is going to be great. Emphasis on going to be. Its still quite a way off being really usable at scale. Sure, you can use nanite for static meshes, but you still need to use traditional LOD methods for foliage, animated meshes and anything transparent such as large water bodies. There's many other things which are going to take a year or two within UE5 to really get to a place where they're mainstream usable.
you missed your pants
are u selling those Cope A Cola can holders ? or if you bought it somewhere pls tell me/us where ?
@@edwardkeirle4453 Thank you for the info Good Sir!
@@edwardkeirle4453 I have exactly oposite knowledge, most tutorials i know use heightmaps in some way with vertex paiting to make blending more natural. Because as you said, there is everything already there. th-cam.com/video/86vm_m0_YbQ/w-d-xo.html for example
Dude you have gotten another hundred subs every day recently. Rock on man. Look forward to your videos every day.
It's always a great day when Narc deals us some hot, fresh, new Copium. Always gets me topped back up... Till the next vid of course.
Let's go dude almost 30k, ive watched you since 2k i think and you deserve it!
My dude... congrats on what ever happened. Hope to get a reveal on your situation. I dont remember when i started following you but i watched you for a few weeks before i subbed. Below 10k im for certain. You rock dude bro.
My take on unreal 5 and the tools intrepid studios are building is that the tools themselves, once they've proven their title is as epic as they think it is, can be sold off to other development studios for a tidy profit, and make an improvement in the industry itself, something Steven has said multiple times that he wants to do, not just make his game
100% this. Nothing wrong with selling their work to anyone making a single player game......pretty sure theu wouldn't license any new mmo's to use it lol
When they reach that point, somebody should actually force Todd Howard to use UE5.
"Each rock has been manually sculpted to have 16 times the detail."
@@nordy259 UE5 has some interesting ideas on how to capitalise their engine. For the most part UE5 works closely with devs in creating tools. The licence in most cases does not prevent UE5 from simply adding those tools into their core product that anyone can use. UE5 then takes a piece of the games ongoing turnover as payment instead of a set fee. It makes the engine incredibly accessible to both large studios and independent developers with an ever increasing pool of development tools at their disposal. It will be very interesting to see just how that works moving forward.
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so many people dont realise that often times in the process of making something look nicer AND come out faster, that also includes optomising it to make it as accessible as possible not even necessarily intentionally but the first two often bring in the third as a necessary bi-product just throught the nature of optimization as so many things in all professions that dont look to nice and or arent the best often are that way purely because they arent optimized properly
UE5 is the future, incredibly smart of Intrepid to be taking time to make these tools while still in development. These decisions will compound throughout the project and even beyond post release. Also W for good channel growth, cheers to 30k!
Dude I really like your point of view and the ideas you provide on these videos, I just wish you could turn up the sound volumen on them, I always have to mute my tv every time an add pops up xD
I'm so stoked, thanks for keeping the updates flowing! I had watched a few of your videos about this game and wound up pre-purchasing it just a couple weeks ago to be able to get into the next alpha and betas.
UE5 is definitely shining light on the future of game development through its optimization features. We're reaching a point where consumers can't realistically keep throwing more and more power in their PCs for performance. I'm very interested in UE5 benchmarks for GPUs/CPUs that are a couple of generations old.
Same, i just got a new 3090, but i am super curious how my laptop 3060 will perform in UE5 games, or my old laptops 1080ti.
My 1080ti agrees
As does my newly purchased on the cheap 3050 laptop.
UE5 got me excited for the game. With UC4 it looked dogshit and I would not play it.
I think that UE5 can help with old GPUs but still it is more about future. I mean if you buy new graphic cards now they should be relevant for many more years with UE5 games. Maybe combination of UE5 and DLSS or FSR should made even older cards relevant too, so ashes should definitely implement these technologies. Currenly I have pretty average card from amd, but thanks to FSR I can play CP2077 on more than 60 fps with 2k resolution and with max settings.
How dare you bad mouth my poor Snorse Narc, what did he ever do to you!
Your Jenni character is the best yet hope to see more of him. Thanks for the high grade copium.
You know I thought to myself once “Narc looks like a baker”
I love a lot of things about your content, & hope you are open to one idea:
-love the humor, sarcasm, often the writing, etc.
-I'd honestly love to see you put as much potential as you have, to really geek out after an update and release an equally silly length video of 30-45m - perhaps trying to really build on some more massive themes occasionally. A dissection of sorts with a keen eye for detail in your style would be fun - even if you did end up with more ad breaks.
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I don't know much about how powerful those engines are but what I like is that they seem really want to create a mmo they'd love to play and I looking forward it.
Their enthusiasm and excitement is very contagious, probably because it's real.
your videos are really good. whenever i happen to miss the monthly livestream i just come watch your videos on it and feel really informed.
Keep up the great work Narc always have a solid kek and keeping up to date with my morning coffee.
U5 is stellar for just about anyone these days IF you take the time to learn it.
I think it will surpass everyone's expectations and then some. The tools they are creating is just extra bank for them down the line when they offer them to the market.
Like I've said before Steven ain't no dummy. He's hard-headed and stubborn enough to make this thing work come hell or high water. I'm glad they made the switch if anything we get the game sooner than later now. Keep the great vids coming!
UE5 got me excited for the game. With UC4 it looked dogshit and I would not play it.
Ashes news and coverage has been dope lately specifically because of the UE5 update, for me at least. I wasn't nearly as excited about or interested in the title before. They're in a unique position to show off so many of these tools on a big scale before most others. A testament to their transparent design process.
Of course you had to add that little jab at New World right at the end...
I think Ashes of Creation will be the ultimate test for both Intrepid and Epic in terms of proving the capabilities of Nanite tech. It's one thing to render in a single player game, it's another when you have to optimize in an MMO. I'm honestly optimistic though, if there were any real major issues popping up, I think they'd have switched gears by now.
Respectfully disagree. Single player games can crank graphics to crazy town, since there's less pressure to make it competitive to everyone.
Hiding in a bush that doesn't render to others is not a thing in single players
This is it. AoC is my last hope for a great MMORPG to really get into. It all looks fantastic and sounds almost too good to be true. I pray Steven and this team deliver and it doesn't fall into the hype-train and hit us with anything that is pay to win. I look forward to it and hope they take all the time it takes to make this special. It will take over the lionshare of this market if they stay true to what they have been saying/developing. It all looks amazing.
I think one of ashes biggest strengths may also prove to be one of its biggest weaknesses when it releases. No matter how good everything may end up being, Steven has said this himself, they are making a game that isn't for everyone.
With that comes the unfortunate reality of creating a niche game. What remains to be seen is based on their design choices, just how niche it will be.
They could still be wildly successful, just not as successful as if they targeted a broader audience. That too comes with heavy detriment, and could land them in the very spot most mmos end up in which is mediocrity.
My wife and I are stoked for the game, nearly everything said and shown off looks and sounds great.
But for my wife in particular if the pvp is too painful she won't give it the time of day.
She doesn't have an aggressive pvp competitive bone in her body, but the crafting systems, animal husbandry, freeholds, and economic systems, heavily interest her.
She could probably spend countless hours exploring and gathering materials, raising unique animals and farming. But if she is ganged consistently throughout that process her and many like her will not find enjoyment in the game, and IMO as someone who enjoys challenging content and that sense of danger, even i don't enjoy what typically turns sadistic internet trolling in open pvp games.
A2 will be a big determining factor for a lot of people, the majority of players, statistically, on whether they like where the pvp systems stand.
@@Splincir I don't think the pvp will be as bad as everyone is making it put to be, yes, at the start you're going to have your asshats trying the system, bit after a week or two I think things will simmer down and be just fine. Besides there is going to be a TON of stuff to do besides fight each other. But, just remember don't travel alone, Especially if your out gathering something precious and worth money...and THAT is where the hired mercenaries come into play. Protect your back and be smart and I think you will have a grand time.
Also, news travels fast...a true pk'er won't last long, his/her reputation will blow up quick and he/she will die ALOT. You also have the bounty hunters to pick up the slack as well...I do hope you and your wife have a grand time in Vera! Hope to see you in game soon!
@@Splincir I really don't think PVP will be as prevalent as people think, traveling the world alone would reduce PVPers because most people want to be able to kill the same person over and over again until the person quits, if they have to travel to find different people most people don't like that.
Also the reprocussions for being a PKer are pretty harsh, not being allowed in nodes (which is the main part of the game), bounty hunters chasing you and they can see you but you can't see them, reduced damage and reduced defence, the chance to lose the good armor and weapons that make you more powerful then other people.
PVP will still happen but I doubt it's going to happen a lot and if it does it won't last long at all, I would say keep an open mind about PVP, it's a necessary part of the game, and when it isn't necessary it is very punishable for the person who commits to PVP against a non combatant
@@Splincir I’m not interested in a frame perfect, hyper optimized, always super balanced esports worthy pvp.
If I wanted that I could play league or wow.
I want the MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER to come into my next mmo.
I want to go adventuring with my buddies online again.
I want to have a developing server wide conflict. I want to have community. Pvp is one aspect of building that. I LOVE pvp, but it isn’t everything.
As long as it’s not so unbalanced that it’s rage inducing, I’m happy.
@@JohnAPrescott I wanna play a pk-er for hire as a rogue/rogue Assasin lol.
Thanks for the video - I am starting to have some pleasant hope that this engine will be good!
They might have to customize all the asses in the map, but more than one artist can work on the same section of map at a time, so development is greatly enhanced. Having seasons and weather-related transitions will make the maps feel dynamic. I hope they make enough variations in mobs, so you don't see copy past of the same mobs over and over. I also want to see some crazy Verticality to some of the map. I would like to see dynamic events though.
customize all the asses huh
glad about the channel grow
I love the weird snail horse!
If this game flops I don't wanna be Narc's neighbours when he snaps.
I think Stephen should make pink Stripe shorts and a grey fleecy hoodie a monthly cosmetic package... Oh and don't forget the can of copacola 😊
Narc artisan baker is an epic thing to know.
God I got copium all over me 😂 the effort you put into your intros 😂👌 when can I buy a can of copa cola? 👀😂 Congrats on the increase in subs! Fully deserved!!
Love your editing, much love!
I would trust Unreal 5 for an MMO before I would Unity
Dude! I just wanna listen to "shall weeeeeeeeeee" on an infinite loop. And I had the same feelings about the slime! That was funny as hell.
God I love how "4:th wall breaking" your commentary is sometimes. For example at 5:14 - Love it.
A day without bulge is a day without sunshine
Maybe I missed something, but in that video, they just shown regular Vertex Painting and material mixing from UE toolkit. Also, Epic was known to showcase these desert rocks also in UE5 previews, because they looks incredible, but it's also realy easy to make tons of these good looking desert stones.
*After following the game for years, I'm not skeptical at all.*
*Ashes has proven time and time again that their tech is cutting edge.*
What scares me about nanite is the 20GB+ monthly MMO texture/downloads/updates that would make PS5 developers envious.
Who knows what the new customer download size will be 5 years down the road, not just the terrabytes needed for it.
Overcoming the performance window, by streamlining only what you want and only when you need it,
does not negate the need for the RAW level of detail to still exist in a state to streamline.
Im so glad I was born in this era u5 will be legendary
Unreal 5's capabilities are as stunning as they are efficient. The good news is the graphics look great... the better news, the mmorpg genre isn't about flashy visuals as much as a compelling word... WoW classic was very popular despite 2004 graphics.
Yep. Was :) nostalgic feelings made classic possible and very well received, but after a while it just dies off as its the same old game everyone has done playing.
Love your content man, keep it up !
Did you just tell me to thin up?!? CLever laddy buck! Now I'm ramblin
The long legged/ long mouth animal actually exists in the real world, but without the long legs. Its a Tamandua and it eats ants =D
The nanite part, allows for non-optimized assets to do what u mentioned. It allows developers to avoid having to optimize. Just a quick bit :)
Optimizing isn't only about graphics. I hope that devs don't just avoid optimizing spaghetti code because of nanite.
@@willo1345 ok :) Just seemed to me u were talking about optimizing assets. Not code. Of course I wasnt talking about general optimization, of code and similar details. Just what nanites does at a poligonal level, and how it generally allows for smoother workflow without as much "asset specific" graphical optimization. Which in ur video seemed to be explained a bit weird. But i haven't worked with it much so i could be wrong :)
Pretty sure I was in the first 5000 subs. I can brag to my heart'a content when the time comes. *Inhales hopium*
Some corrections, those tools are UE5 Not Ashes tools (except what they talk about at the end... But all that is in UE5, right panel = outliner so wouldn't be surprised if its just UE5 again). At least what I have seen displayed. There are games that use nanite mostly on console not PC that put it through it paces (tl:dr UE5 is free until you hit 1 million profit Then you need to pay a royalty). So you can also download UE5 for FREE & load up templates that showcase on a grander scale than Ashes (current alpha 1) & emulate them, all listed on launcher if you want to see something more impressive that what is showcased. 8:17 is a good example of under modeling tools > Deform > Displace Simple, easy effective, Looks wrong if you doing environment artist up close, looks good far away e.t.c. They appear to be short cutting the rough & normals texture maps by just using modeling displacement, Which we used to shortcut by using megascans assets & pulling there textures & reusing them (or changing maps to just use the blue input), then adjusting it to give a more 3d effect. To answer the question you ask at the end "is UE really powerful enough to fulfill Stephens dreams" Answer is don't know about his dreams but its the one engine out there powerful enough to actually handle Modern day MMO's, Very surprised which how much they managed to get UE4 to render in the end when it wasn't really designed to do that (the many bears) But UE5 is designed to do that. Also a fun fact doing lighting in UE5 is PURE CANCER Feel sorry for the guy who is in charge of it!. UE5 (VFX Niagara) system will probably be the next showcased.
Nanite doesn't solve as many problems as you think it does (and probably solves more than the haters think). For example the terrain for the moment doesn't use it, nor does foilage (at least if your terrain isn't made out of instances of things). Also it can't be used on deforming meshes (such as player characters), of course the fixed stuff like swords / shields etc. can use it. The terrain / foilage is likely a solvable problem, the skinned/deforming meshes probably isn't. There's a reason that combat demo used rock golems...
It also has a fairly large "minimum" spec, it scales really well after that and will likely work on the proverbial potatoe spec once Ashes ships. But you're likely talking 1080+ (or more realistically 3080+) so "low-end" certainly isn't in current hardware spec (U5 needs CPU/Mem more than UE4 did too).
I think interpid replaced the network stack with their own, but UE5 has some great improvements there too.
On a side note, maybe for another video you can go into what to do concerning open world pvp. I'm still seeing posts about wanting to play but scared about the pvp aspect. I figured you could provide some insights since the game will be balanced around a group and not individually. I.e. if you go out alone in the world and you're gathering something of value take someone with you...via a mercenary, etc. Anywho, it's another vid for ya!
Narc: "I used to be an artisan baker".
Me: Hope these videos earn you enough dough. Goes to find 'Laid Back - Bakerman' on youtube.
9:01 those were the specs for my old pc i bought almost 10 years ago.
I appreciate the videos you are making. I my self am a nerd soaking up content and looking for the next MMO to scratch the itch I've had for the last few years. Will we be seeing videos of the caliber when we know more about the RIOT MMO? or will this channel focus purely on AoC?
I have some strong opinions on Riot's "mmo" :) stay tuned
I have a feeling i'm going to live in this game like I haven't done since the original Everquest.
It's possible.
I'm with you 💯%!
I wonder how if the slime trail of a snorse creates a "stuck" or "knock-down" or "slide" effect. Imagine a strategy where a snorse could create a trail through the battlefield in which others could quickly slide to a key point.
That intro had me in tears 🤣 oooooaaah 🤮
Narc, been watching your videos for awhile and am getting so stoked for this game. I am an old school MMORPG'r (started way back in Ultima Online when I was like 11). It is by far my favorite genre, and it has gotten so bad. I mean, all games have gotten bad (it is almost like the devs don't even play games anymore, right?). To be fair, when streaming started taking off, I knew it was likely the beginning of the end. However, Ashes might just prove me wrong.
What’s messed up is the demand for a GOOD, addictive, immersive mmo is STILL THERE.
Just no big name studios who have the clout and money to make it happen want to take a risk on it.
It may be that ashes is the 2004 world of Warcraft, that revitalizes the genre, sets a new industry standard, and kicks all the big game companies in the dick.
I hope, PRAY, that this game dethrones and kills wow, and big name studios actually have to strat making games GOOD again.
Narc found a Sponsor?? Or whats his mystery at the end?
Mystery meat, I bet.
AY! Dont be talkin shit about my Snorse!
These new tools with UE5 Are amazing, Im so excited for the grand shift into the next era of game creation.
You're the best Narc!
Not the veiny snorse leg pan deaddddd
Please can someone tell me if these particular pants are at least not the original pants I swear I saw 10 videos ago...!!! (Love your content btw!)
thank you for blessing my ears with valheim music
I've BEEN subbed, son 😅😉
looking better. But the dodging in modern mmos, how I despise it.
Narc in his boxers again 🤤😜
i love the valheim music but sometimes its a little bit to much backround noise in my opinion.
note: the rocklands appear to be semi-arid, and not arid(desert). Please continue.
When are going to see a baking video?
stream content? PauseChamp
Good to know we can leave snail trails across the landscape
I am just honestly flabbergasted at how little they have revealed, and how good they are at keeping their lips sealed on where they are at in the process. I understand that they don't want to speculate and not deliver - but like any information at all would be really nice at this point. You and others say we are closer than we think to A1, but I think the opposite can be true as well. We haven't seen too many systems to type out. (Other class 1-10 trailers is an easy starter).
I'm genuinely afraid that this game will take TOO long to come out some days.
I think they've said they try to keep details about systems on the DL bc theyre worried about systems being gamed by players far, far in advance. But they're also definitely in very early development regardless.
@@Exidous96 I don't consider 6 years to be early in development. Though it is understood that the first 3 years were a crapshoot of "figuring it out'
Your BULGE is magical!
these intros have Adult Swim at 3AM vibes
OK I am going to try and approach this a bit better. I am very excited and rooting for this game. I am a long time MMO fan. These are the games I enjoy.
The technology is amazing. What the artists and programmers can achieve with the tools is what we have all been waiting for. It is exciting. They have very talented folks working on this game. We are being shown creative lifeforms that Wayne Barlowe and Guillermo would be proud of. What we are not seeing is the imaginary worlds for these creatures to live in.
Example: We do not need another Barrens. Change the color on that rock formation and add some glowing bits maybe some big metals globes stuck halfway in. Change up the sky. Add vegetation that is as alien to us as the creatures. The world is like your friend getting the latest 3-D printer and printing a paper-thin model with a spreadsheet on it and going “look I have a 3-D printer.” OK so show us what it can really do. Do you think they will have the creative design link between world and creatures to transport us to Verra? As it stands Verra looks a lot like Earth.
We appreciate your videos. Thanks, and keep them coming. Your intros are pretty fun.
These fucking intros are golden!!!! Lmfao
What happened to EverQuest next?
Good stuff, as always.
well hold on, Wow did do a Graphic update a few years back also trying to keep it cartoony
If this helps the devs make the game they envisioned and to do it with efficiency then I'm all for it.
So... got any of that Beta 2 man. I gotta get me some Beta 2... c'mon man, I *neeeeed it.*
calling out new world for being garbage had me crying caught me well off guard lmao
same 😂
Halp! I think I've drank too many Copa Colas! I can feel my heart beating! Oh gawd! I think I'm dying!
The valheim music/soundtrack is so good isnt it, good choice!
Landform sounds great in theory. And sure it looks interesting and all Demos look cool. However the amount of assets required for a big world is tremendous. Making each individual creation easier is helpful but making it actually non repetitive can be a whole other ball game.
I'm sure they rely on some form of procedural generation. I believe we actually saw a bit of it on the rock formation itself. But this allows them to go in and sculpt what is generated to improve it without having to pull it out and load it on another app only to reapply it in engine and realizing another mistake they have to correct again.
YUP ... Snails on baking desert sands are different. Maybe that's how our younger kids learn Biology. Skaff.
Love the video!
FYI: a lot, not alot
BUT NAAAARRC WorLd oF WaRcRaft is The BesT gaMe EveR
it would be very cool if when the animals change with the weather they also change their moves and their behaviour but i think its too much to ask XD
I wonder if they could incorporate the Niagra into the Landform plugin, and how they could make it usable with the brush strokes, like Zbrush. That would definitely be unique, even Zbrush doesn't have that.
I saw a clip where someone used Niagra to place procedurally generated foliage like rocks and bushes. Mindblowing.
@@bitbraindev Wow. I've yet to see something like that, but I can definitely imagine the possibilities.
Thanks for the explanation :D
Good advice, if you don't want to vomit, never lick snail slime 😁
hey narc what do you think about the riot MMO, the lore for LOL is awesome do you think the game will be?
I was extremely excited until I seen the combat is going to be pretty much like every game before us. We need some action combat with assisted targeting. Combat like GW2 is alright, ESO failed the action combat, BDO overdid it, and the only game that sort of got close was Never Winter which turned into a P2W cesspool. Hoping to see Ashes find good middle ground, but I'm cautious to be optimistic here.
Title should be "Creepy groomer talks about video games in his underwear."
i hope he changes those undies, seems to wear them every episode, lol
@Narc
Serious question: How does AoC combat "The Zerg"?
Notice my Account pic? It's a throwback to my days in WAR (Warhammer Online). The Zerg was real. The guild I was in DESTROYED 3 different servers and was working on our 4th when most of the guild just moved on to other games. This was BEFORE social media and streamers. Any organized large guild is going to be unstoppable...especially with the streamer worshipping spergs donating their very soul to pump up their favorite streamer. It won't stop at one server. They'll just move from server to server like locusts. IT HAPPENED BEFORE...it'll happen again...only worse. Until AoC addresses this VERY REAL problem nobody should be looking at this game...as pretty as it is.
Also...FOMO. Grow some morals AoC.
Also...this is free content for ya! It's a serious problem and needs to come out into the light of day.
@Hill (*facepalm) I'm looking for serious discussion. Not doomer hyperbole. You're a bad troll and a carebear. Stop trying and go play Hello Kitty Adventure Island.
Open World PvP is the height of player MMO combat. I'm looking for answers from AoC about how they're going to disperse "The Zerg" and allow for actual server balanced combat that doesn't wreck servers. New World is the latest example. WAR was an older one.
I want to add that when we "moved" to another server...we didn't "transfer". We rolled from level 1. There were no "server transfers" back then I don't think...or we were to cheap to pay for them, or we wanted to give the server time to organize against us. Yes, we actually tried to help opposing guilds fight us. We WANTED a challenge...it never happened.
@Hill LMAO...I'm not a "fan" of any MMO right now. AoC has potential IF they can fix the problems of the past.
I invited Narc to address the problem because he does have some creative and intelligent insights into the MMO genre.
You...on the other hand, just hate PvP. You're an obvious carebear and very poor troll parroting what other carebears have been whining about for ages.
Discussing solutions and not whining like a 2yr old dooming about a wet diaper are the way we gamers will get good games.
What would YOUR solution be to the 600 man sperg zerg be?
Looking good!
Ashes of Creation got a lot closer you say? So - we can expect it this decade maybe?
But Narc… your never gonna forget the little guy posting in your comments, right? 😝
Oh god those slime noises