Hearing the girl near the end start saying, "I'm sorry, but.." (-ie. she wasn't sorry at all-) reminded me of a few situations I was asked about, as an English as a Second Language teacher, in the 90's (-I still do it). A young Chinese university student once came to the group, totally perplexed. She said, " I met my Australian friend for lunch. I felt so bad, I was 20 minutes late. My friend said, *Thanks for coming* Why she thank me? I was late!"
Nationalisation of companies across the board is not always a good thing. However, the recent energy crisis has demonstrated how services that are essentially monopolies by the nature of the beast that they are, may be better be off being nationalised. Interestingly enough, it is the conservative party that has put forward plans/proposals to renationalise a part of the railway system. Each case for nationalisation or privatisation should be made on a case by case basis and not simply 'nationalise - good', 'privatisation bad'. At the end of the day though, it all depends on the management skills of those running the organisation and nationalised organisations tend not to have a good record when it comes to efficiency.
Unions are a balance. You can’t strike and strangle the company you work for. It comes back to the old saying “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”. The point of unions is for workers of a company to strive for fair wages and protection for the worker from unjust conditions. When the unions try to get a stranglehold on the company they wind up choking the lifeblood that is sustaining the workers. The solution is a federal law dictating workers rights so that companies can abide by that and the working man can get his fair shake.
And where is such ongoing discussion like this today in the major Media outlets? We are going backwards in our sophistication of public discourse. Do I have to watch dw or France 24 or rt instead?
I think it simply because of the internet. I mean because of the speed on which it put whatever you searched for infront of you can cause you to be used to speed and as such this causation has the effect and turning everything into like bullets or bubbles where information is compressed into shorter and shorter terms. Ironically stalin warned about how capitalism would create a generation used to "shorter movies" with no substance because of the advancement of capitalism.
Lol so costing countless people to lose thier jobs not only in the mining industry but in countless thousands of other businesses is ok then Doogigiro ?The fact is scargill and all other radical unions were the enemy of the people as all the wild cat strikes caused more damage to our country and more still the general population than they did to the government time and time again...Obviously you are a radical leftie so really its pointless debating with you as you and your mates are living on another planet.
@billhaywood3503 you sure about that, he took the miners out on strike, without a national ballot, with coal stocks at record high, and in the summer, how is that great leadership.
The most honest and courageous human being who ever held public office. He has been proved correct unfortunately over and over again. Look at the world now, a few families own more wealth than half the world's population. British workers have had the longest standard of living squeeze since the Napoleon's wars. The result of years of Thatcherite style policies including attacking the unions etc. We should have followed King Arthur's lead.
I couldn’t agree with you more... The way the entire youth filled audience & everyone conversed & discussed matters in this program are vastly superior to the standards portrayed today in the media. All we seem to get today are nerdy types living in there mums back bedroom playing video games all day or empty headed botoxed up tango tanned Katie price types with less intelligent than a jam sponge... With all there , yeah but, not but, like you know whatever phrases... At least in the 1980’s people could still properly interact & hold a cogent debate. Oh! how far we have fallen...
Yes yes yes Australian family's members of our beautiful country not of traditional people Young as well true story children voice some foreign affairs person peoples government yes
3 day week with no lose of wages to share that role with someone else? Nuts idea. Thats two lots of wages that will need to be paid. Then you have 2 different people doing the same job but potentially two different ways.
Scargill wanted to start a tariff war with Europe and I'm sure the Japanese, also. 🤣 Very shallow policies that would undoubtedly destroy the economy. These youngsters were mostly quite right-leaning economically. They probably did quite well in the 80s.
The funny thing is that this exactly what the tories and pro brexit people have created now with their short sighted jingoistic viewpoints. Actually, listening to mr Scargill talking about protecting British workers and business you would think your listening to a Brexit supporting tory now!
Yes. They're the generation that benefited from the post war boom and then voted in the Thatcherite consensus that the young generation of today tried (and failed) to end with Corbynism. The over 50s have shafted this country.
The youngsters left school with unemployment at a record high nearly the size of the population of New Zealand, both N.I and S.I, apprenteships scrapped. Then you became on migrant labour as you did not want to give your own youth the chance and today you need plasters, brickies, doctors, dentists, teachers and you fleece your own people. The only country which taxed the poor for the amount of light they recieved and hence the small windows in old homes. Overseas, can recalim the VAT, avoid income tax, use the NHS, whilst thoste who fought for this country sell the Big Issue! You fly a girl like Malala gve her an operation on the NHS, a place at Oxford, a Noble prize, then a Council House, give her the opportunitty to open the Common Wealth Games, whilst poor Albert, Doris, Ethel are denied any op even they fought and lost their men and women in the war!
Selling too other cost more too send it ,man woman boat fuel , for cattle sheep pigs goat cheese milk cars wines foreigners land waters life foreigners.. where our Australian best take care of US WE OURS my children your children lands leases Australian family's
1980, Arthur Scargil sitting there spouting communist and Christian ideals before the 1984 strikes and disclosure of his Muslim backers. I pity my peers who were well educated and balanced asking meaningful questions end up where we are today.
The miners strike was un-Christian?... You disapprove of Christianity?...Scargill was being paid by the Saudis? - Not sure what your getting at. How is Scargill to blame when the strike was defeated by a Tory government led by Margaret Thatcher.
@@hazelwray4184 Scargil is and was being paid for by the Iranians. I was there I saw what happened and the pit deputies were kept on to keep the pots viable if necessary. St. Tony sacked them. I'll answer any other questions you may have.
@@grahamjohn678 1999 homophobia 2010 islamophobia 2019 transphobia 2022 vaxphobia 2025 peodophobia?? Get over yourself matey, you're over egging the narrative...
Scargill's hair looks so flammable, it could so easily go up like a tinder box, with just a reflection from somebody's glasses.
That's not Arthur Scargill, it's Farrah Fawcett Majors.
Hearing the girl near the end start saying,
"I'm sorry, but.."
(-ie. she wasn't sorry at all-) reminded me of a few situations I was asked about, as an English as a Second Language teacher, in the 90's (-I still do it).
A young Chinese university student once came to the group, totally perplexed.
She said,
" I met my Australian friend for lunch.
I felt so bad, I was 20 minutes late.
My friend said,
*Thanks for coming*
Why she thank me?
I was late!"
Nationalisation of companies across the board is not always a good thing. However, the recent energy crisis has demonstrated how services that are essentially monopolies by the nature of the beast that they are, may be better be off being nationalised. Interestingly enough, it is the conservative party that has put forward plans/proposals to renationalise a part of the railway system. Each case for nationalisation or privatisation should be made on a case by case basis and not simply 'nationalise - good', 'privatisation bad'. At the end of the day though, it all depends on the management skills of those running the organisation and nationalised organisations tend not to have a good record when it comes to efficiency.
Unions are a balance. You can’t strike and strangle the company you work for. It comes back to the old saying “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”. The point of unions is for workers of a company to strive for fair wages and protection for the worker from unjust conditions. When the unions try to get a stranglehold on the company they wind up choking the lifeblood that is sustaining the workers. The solution is a federal law dictating workers rights so that companies can abide by that and the working man can get his fair shake.
9:35 Why was Daley Thompson always in this show?
Googled the show. Apparently he was one of the presenters.
Hecwas a positive black role model. 🇬🇧👍
While I strongly oppose his political views, I greatly respect AS for his skills as a public persuader and polemicist.
And where is such ongoing discussion like this today in the major Media outlets? We are going backwards in our sophistication of public discourse. Do I have to watch dw or France 24 or rt instead?
Backwards since 1975 when the Beeb changed its standards
@@rat_king- You'd think calling this TH-cam Channel "ThamesTV" might have indicated this is nothing to do with the BBC.
@@skyscratch And i am lementing media with no bias and a spine. Post truth, post sanity
I think it simply because of the internet. I mean because of the speed on which it put whatever you searched for infront of you can cause you to be used to speed and as such this causation has the effect and turning everything into like bullets or bubbles where information is compressed into shorter and shorter terms.
Ironically stalin warned about how capitalism would create a generation used to "shorter movies" with no substance because of the advancement of capitalism.
Royal mail wants to destroy the terms and conditions of postal workers to compete with the gig economy shameful 😢
It is sink or swim...sad to say...
Why have the MSM media not interviewed Scargill to gage his opinion on the current situation.
Why indeed ! The anti working class mindset of our ruling elite.
God bless Arthur
Lol so costing countless people to lose thier jobs not only in the mining industry but in countless thousands of other businesses is ok then Doogigiro ?The fact is scargill and all other radical unions were the enemy of the people as all the wild cat strikes caused more damage to our country and more still the general population than they did to the government time and time again...Obviously you are a radical leftie so really its pointless debating with you as you and your mates are living on another planet.
greatest leader of the western working class
@billhaywood3503 you sure about that, he took the miners out on strike, without a national ballot, with coal stocks at record high, and in the summer, how is that great leadership.
The most honest and courageous human being who ever held public office. He has been proved correct unfortunately over and over again. Look at the world now, a few families own more wealth than half the world's population. British workers have had the longest standard of living squeeze since the Napoleon's wars. The result of years of Thatcherite style policies including attacking the unions etc. We should have followed King Arthur's lead.
Listen to scargill then Nigel in reform
Scargill #no1
Past and present
It’s amazing how well spoken an engaged young people were back then
I couldn’t agree with you more... The way the entire youth filled audience & everyone conversed & discussed matters in this program are vastly superior to the standards portrayed today in the media. All we seem to get today are nerdy types living in there mums back bedroom playing video games all day or empty headed botoxed up tango tanned Katie price types with less intelligent than a jam sponge... With all there , yeah but, not but, like you know whatever phrases... At least in the 1980’s people could still properly interact & hold a cogent debate. Oh! how far we have fallen...
They should all be banned.
This video is a perfect example of why the idea that you're left wing when you're young and right wing when you're old is nonsense.
Just realised this is my parents generation hahah
Christina's one whole life stories Amendment ACT of Australian
Yes yes yes Australian family's members of our beautiful country not of traditional people Young as well true story children voice some foreign affairs person peoples government yes
United jack or James or jane
I was four
In there own country of origin nationality birth certificate
True God
3 day week with no lose of wages to share that role with someone else? Nuts idea. Thats two lots of wages that will need to be paid. Then you have 2 different people doing the same job but potentially two different ways.
Not a nuts idea and one that's talked about more and more these days thanks to technology, as Scargill said. The man was a visionary.
Whereas mass unemployment and poverty pay is perfectly wonderful?
Scargill wanted to start a tariff war with Europe and I'm sure the Japanese, also. 🤣 Very shallow policies that would undoubtedly destroy the economy. These youngsters were mostly quite right-leaning economically. They probably did quite well in the 80s.
The funny thing is that this exactly what the tories and pro brexit people have created now with their short sighted jingoistic viewpoints. Actually, listening to mr Scargill talking about protecting British workers and business you would think your listening to a Brexit supporting tory now!
Yes. They're the generation that benefited from the post war boom and then voted in the Thatcherite consensus that the young generation of today tried (and failed) to end with Corbynism. The over 50s have shafted this country.
The youngsters left school with unemployment at a record high nearly the size of the population of New Zealand, both N.I and S.I, apprenteships scrapped. Then you became on migrant labour as you did not want to give your own youth the chance and today you need plasters, brickies, doctors, dentists, teachers and you fleece your own people. The only country which taxed the poor for the amount of light they recieved and hence the small windows in old homes. Overseas, can recalim the VAT, avoid income tax, use the NHS, whilst thoste who fought for this country sell the Big Issue! You fly a girl like Malala gve her an operation on the NHS, a place at Oxford, a Noble prize, then a Council House, give her the opportunitty to open the Common Wealth Games, whilst poor Albert, Doris, Ethel are denied any op even they fought and lost their men and women in the war!
You speak the damn truth!!... Very refreshing to hear it... 😃👍👍👍... We need more like this...
AU
Selling too other cost more too send it ,man woman boat fuel , for cattle sheep pigs goat cheese milk cars wines foreigners land waters life foreigners.. where our Australian best take care of US WE OURS my children your children lands leases Australian family's
1980, Arthur Scargil sitting there spouting communist and Christian ideals before the 1984 strikes and disclosure of his Muslim backers. I pity my peers who were well educated and balanced asking meaningful questions end up where we are today.
The miners strike was un-Christian?... You disapprove of Christianity?...Scargill was being paid by the Saudis? - Not sure what your getting at.
How is Scargill to blame when the strike was defeated by a Tory government led by Margaret Thatcher.
@@hazelwray4184 Scargil is and was being paid for by the Iranians. I was there I saw what happened and the pit deputies were kept on to keep the pots viable if necessary. St. Tony sacked them. I'll answer any other questions you may have.
Keep taking ya medication 💊 fella
Way to go with the Islamaphobia Nicholas Parish
@@grahamjohn678
1999 homophobia
2010 islamophobia
2019 transphobia
2022 vaxphobia
2025 peodophobia??
Get over yourself matey, you're over egging the narrative...
He's dead
A christain marxist😂