Arthur Scargill | The role of the Trade Unions | Youth culture | White light | 1980
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- 'White light' presenter James Maw chairs a lively debate with kids in the audience who pit their questions to Union Leader Arthur Scargill.
Recorded: 03/10/80
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This is surprisingly entertaining. Scargill wasn't the raving lunatic he was portrayed as, and the young audience was an unexpectedly tough crowd.
The kids are more polite and debate better than a modern question time debate with adults.
I keep expecting Rick or Vivian to pop up with a question.
Great post Thames TV Archives. Timely.
It would be interesting to know if anybody recognises anyone in the audience?
Is the red head Liz Truss ?
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I don't believe so though I can see there appears to be some similarities in appearance and behaviour., e.g., fair complexion and in your face up for a debate. However, if the ginger lass dyed her hair blonde, allowing four decades of ageing, I'd imagine she would bear a remarkable resemblance to Boris Johnson. 🤣🤣🤣
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I'm sure Daly Thompson is behind the interviewer...
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Having considered that the said interview was recorded on October 10, 1980. Whilst the geezers facial features including the eyes, eyebrows, moustache and hairstyle are similar, he doesn't have the muscular build of a decathlete whom two months prior competed in the Moscow Olympics during July and August 1980. This is clear at 14:31 when the geezer placed his lower left arm on the railing, the anterior aspect of the forearm muscles, left lateral view of the bicep and triceps muscles are visible.
Well spotted, thank you for commenting sharp eyes. 🙏 👀 🤝
Remember Scargill said not a single coal mine should close as long as coal remained to be mined regardless of demand or cost. Economics of the madhouse
We don't live in an economy we live in a society the economics of deciencey and Arthur and the num never said keep all pits open
@@johnmilligan6605 "Many miners began to strike and on the 12th of March, Arthur Scargill, leader of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM), called a national strike that would last until the 4th of March 1985 and during which 26.1 million working days were lost. During this period Margaret Thatcher’s Conservative government had to handle not only unhappy miners but the threat posed by Arthur Scargill who was determined that the only result he would accept was that only pits which had no mineable coal left would be closed." A quote from Dancing with dogma: Britain under Thatcherism (London, 1992),
@@johnmilligan6605 Yes we do live in a society and who do you expect to pay for the public services that we all require? That will be the private sector that generates the wealth and taxation to pay for those public services.
Cheaper to keep the mines open than bombing Iraq and Syria to obtain the oil and gas.
@@MrEdwardsg not bombing Iraq and Syria (which has no oil) and managed run down of the coal industry seemed the best choices. The NUM opposed any contraction of coal mining industry.
And where in the media are these multiple concepts and issues being discussed nowadays?
Can you imagine a young audience of teens and twenty somethings hearing Len Mccluskey talk now....and them putting intelligent, thoughtful questions to him. No neither can I. Half the audience would be asleep, while the rest would be on their phones......checking something on Instagram or Facebook updates. Young people now have much shorter attention spans, get bored easily and switch off if the subject bring talked about is alien to them or very complex.
Its more we don't find politics about us. They all focus on the elderly and forget about us 18-25 year olds. We feel neglected so why should we care about politics when we are the main focus of policies
and Len is not half the leader Scragill was...
I think that is a little unfair when you see the engagement that came about after Corbyn. I've worked as a volunteer with the tenants union ACORN and the majority of their members in my anecdotal experience are in their twenties.
They all look completely bored and I doubt they understand anything Scargill has said; He appears to be electioneering, rather having any ability to engage with a different audience.
So much will change over the next 40-years, much of it the opposite of what Mr Scargill was recommending...
What do we make now ? Industry was wiped out In the North, and the Conservative solution is to build 1 million pound paper thin wall flats, 😂 levelling up the North folks, don’t make me laugh. 😂
The tories have done the same for the North as Labour did, Nothing.
@@andrewh5457 You got some posh Flats selling for 1 million pounds nobody local can afford mate Cheer up lol. 😂
That looks like Daley Thompson in the background.
are any kids in the audience in the comments?i enjoy this show thnks i was 4 in 1980
The dilemma of this posting is that this laudable programme is negated by the current owner of Thames TV Archives, namely Fremantle Media, which former Thames TV Archive associates insured where fully preserved. One of the most throughly conserved TV archives in the world. Freemantle acquired this archive from Talkback-Thames TV the previous owner and the restrictive practices of licensing clips mean a global All Media Clearance deal (or a New Media Over The Table Deal) means we're talking £10, 000 per minute or part thereof to clip clear the copyright for licensing. Ridiculous. I know what Arthur would have said if I told him this. NEVERTHELESS. Thanks again to the poster within this organisation for making this freely available to youtube - even if your archives are the most expensive TV Clip sales Corporate entity in the UK; namely Fremantle Media (Australian)
Note I have pointed out the irony of clearing one minute of this for a Documentary to be shown on Netflix or Amazon will cost the on-going Fremantle Media per minute or part thereof rate at £10,000 re clip footage licensing. This is really wholly at odds with the values of the man answering the questions in this very clip. Corporate Culture has hi-jacked our cultural heritage for an untenable price tag
If the rate is too high you must look elsewhere, or use stills, headlines, etc. My partner has made several documentaries over the years and has always had to budget for archival footage.
Hear hear. They don't like alternative opinions so they crush it with schemes like this. It's a clever form of censorship.
Daily Thompson in the background 😂😂
Daley Thompson at 16:36
In hindsight Arthur did on occasion speak some sense.
For the life of me I can't think of a single occasion where Scargill has proved to be correct on any single issue. Words are cheap, action slightly more difficult
@@michaelsalt4565 Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan. However I do believe some of the things he said kind of make some sense. Just some though.
@@fasthracing it's not a question of saying things we can all agree with, but how you try to achieve those goals, for example let's have the best healthcare system in the world. Scargill was a communist and to achieve his goals he would have used communist methods
@@fasthracing I once met Scargill coming out of his residence in the City of London, paid for by the NUM members. He was screaming and shouting at his wife, not a nice man. Why does the leader of the NUM need a residence in the City of London?
@@michaelsalt4565 Don't think he's even the leader now. Apparently the NUM have been trying to get him out of their Barbican flat for years.
That man had a shocking grasp of basic economics
I’ve said this before regarding the young presenter - I swear he’s the love child of Mick Jagger and David Bowie🍒
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perhaps a parentage test in this case would be to give a version of 'dancing in the Street'....
James Maw
good comment
Reduce the working week and put the prices in the shops up and make it harder to live.
So sad, begging for the new technology. I wish it never arrived..
@hffp1 ok, I'll get use to it. Is Manuel a friend of yours?
He was utterly dictatorial in the miners' strike in the 1980s, and unrecognisable in this show, although, obviously, it is not clear here. His pronouncements are at odds with his practise (spelt correctly) or, as Saint Thomas Aquinas said, "at variance with the mind". A hypocrite, as are we all.
Coal is the future!
James Maw seemed to change his accent depending who was on. Went all posh when all the posh kids were on.
Less working hours, less working days, more workers, all of them with increased salary and the U.K. to the IMF.
Unusual to see the "Yoof" supporting the Tories.
Not today. Young people think lucky thieves are goals.
Oswald Mosely said, correctly, in the 1930s, it is usually cheaper to keep someone in a subsidised job than have them idle - better for them, too. It us no more credible when Scargill says, but it's true in both cases.
*role
Ham and cheese rolls
Roy's Rolls?
@@DashDrones My first factory job, fetching the rolls (and the coffee) for the trade unions.
@@jasonayres well done mate 👍
Nozin around, nozin around
any one stop Daley Thompson
Didn't matter in the end, their jobs all went to China and India, as for robots , there none to be seen,
Now it's just the world government addressing you, nothing like this now.
This person is one of the reasons why I left the UK.
Scargill wasted his talent fighting the Tories...He knew the coal industry was in decline with over-supply of an expensive product...He'd have been great in tackling the government & NCB/British Coal to evolve into a better developer of their massive land & property assets for new industries & technologies, particularly with a bias for small start-ups for the ex-miners....Ah well...
Thomas More
I spy with my little eye.... Daley Thompson
WTF is he doing on this show?
@@fasthracing soviet spy I’ve been told. Just making sure Arthur toes the line....
Both Scargill and Thatcher were both extremists that ruined fairness, community spirit and cohesion in the UK..Scargill wasn't living in the real changing world were Asia Labour costs were completely undermining wage costs in the UK....Thatcher created a low regulation unbalanced Yuppie London centric finance and service economy..and threw the workers and families of the manufacturing and resources on the scrapheap to generations of unemployment and poverty instead of retraining them into new viable workable industries in the North, Midlands of England Clydebank etc, etc,....
Arthur Scargill was trained by Soviets. Just listen to what he is saying...
Every civilised country in the world has adopted elements of Marxist teaching that's why they are civilised
@@johnmilligan6605 yes mate, and every civilised country adopt also NAZI elements. Because every civilised country should adopt some non-civilised ideology. How clever it is.
Those lads behind Arthur are dying ...... director doing his best to keep them out of shot
Scargill was an anti-Semitic Stalinist.
The audience looks largely comprised of slack-jawed yokels. England did not send its best, the host included.