Cloud is too emo and contrarian to be into anything so mainstream as either McD's or even Burger King. Cloud is attending a local eatery that specializes in only non-GMO, grass fed beef patties, with buns baked especially for every burger ordered with wheat harvested *that day* topped with pesticide-free raised organic tomatoes and lettuce. It's way too underground to even have a name, as it's a pop-up establishment that'll be gone from Sector 4 by the end of the week.
Watch Japanese streamers play any RPG and you will see them use '円' (えん/yen) as a stand-in for any fictitious currency because it's also the counter for round flat objects, so this is a fairly safe assumption for most games where common objects can be bought for a few hundred local currency.
All fantasy in-game currencies made by a Japanese dev should be presumed to be the equivalent of Yen. They make way more sense that way, as the Japanese measure Yen essentially atomically, from the smallest possible unit of currency, and do not have different denominations of currency like the split between dollar and cents in the US. The "Yen lens" is looking at currency as if the dollar didn't exist, and only cents did.
Damn dude, and so Cloud also falls to the Big Mac Craving... now I kinda want fan art of Travis, Leon, Ashley, Nemona and Cloud & Crew all waiting in line to order a Big Mac or everyone eating in a McDonald’s with their Big Macs. Happy New Years! See you in 2024!
I'd imagine Aerith or Tifa can make something that would make a Big Mac look like a garbage burger but if Cloud is desperate I guess he could consider it.
Bro literally thinks they'd be good at making sandwiches because they're women /j Jokes aside, unironically Barrett would probably have more experience cooking as a single father to an adopted daughter, he probably can take off his arm and replace it with a spatula which perfectly grips and flips patties using the same mechanisms that spin barrels.
@@Barquevious_Jackson Barret only has one hand though. And his artificial hand is a minigun. Unless he's figured out a way to shoot a sandwich into existence, I'm thinking he's not the best hand in the kitchen.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe I like to think it can be changed out for other cybernetics. He just keeps his piece on him all the time in game because he prefers it that way.
All this just makes me think how incredibly low Cloud's fee was in the first mission, he did all that shit for more or less 20 dollars. Also insane to realize that a cup of coffee costs more than a wound-healing, life restoring potion
"There's no fall damage in Final Fantasy." I don't know, falling from the Sector 7 pillar sure seemed to do fall damage to Wedge. Cloud surviving his fall from Sector 5 could be attributed to him being a SOLDIER, or simply plot armour.
My favourite part of the original FF7 was when Cloud gave Sephy the Black Materia at a McDonald's drive-thru. Can't wait to see Rebirth adapt this scene.
The problem there is grenades are pretty common in ff7, while I assume they're not for sale in our world. That's why coffee would be such a great conversion tool, it's demand would be similar in both worlds.
Interesting concept. I had always assumed 1 Gil was roughly 1 JPY. Not that it matters anyway because the whole system breaks down once you're given the opportunity to buy the villa at Costa Del Sol for 300,000 Gil, lol.
I don't know why they priced it so low. 3 million would have been a more reasonable price, and it's not too hard to get that just by grinding All Materia.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Even 3 million gil would have been cheap. They should have kept up the Gil = JPY equivalency and priced it at 300,000,000 gil/yen. Would have been more realistic and made for a greater challenge.
8:52 - You can't buy Aerith's umbrella... But could you sell it? And if so, do items in FF7 sell for a predictable percentage of their cost to buy? If the answer to both is yes, it should be trivial to work out the umbrella's value. (It still may not be ideal though, mostly because real life umbrellas can vary in price quite widely.)
I had never noticed those different prices in lower and upper plates, but it makes coplete sense that the terminal level captalists of Shinra would pay workers in money that can only be spent in Shinra approved/owned businesses
When I tried this, I used the Korean BBQ plate to work out the price. The Gil for ff7 flops there. I came out with a 12-15$ Korean BBQ plate being 70 gil. Otherwise Cloud bombed a reactor for... Less than ten dollars.
I recently found this channel from an old mgs5 video after I randomly introduced or expressed some characters to my beloved. And I somehow feel like I’d seem you prior amd found you again after a long time. Either way I hope you but nothing of the best pal! I’ll try to follow your journey!
heres a good one the shin megami tensei series in smt1 a guy exchanges your yen for macca is he ripping you off or giving you exact change and does the price inflate or deflate across diffrent games?
Please Meti, can you do a " the beauty of mario zucchero " ?, I think it was the only character in part 5 that you didn't make a video about, I love this style of video.
This just makes me wanna watch the Robot Chicken parody where Cloud and crew are workers at “McDonald’s”, and Sephiroth is the manager. th-cam.com/video/wJDEDjG-MPI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hchx28PJmJtG4NkA
The Work Gloves break your own rules due to having higher attack power than other weapons, such as the Mythril Claw, which is essentially a bunch of knifes glued onto a glove. Just like the energy drink potion, it does not match its use.
Now I am wondering what the price of one would be in Hyrule rupees. While that can easily vary by which Zelda game you look at, I personally think thenbest ones to look at are A Link to the Past and BotW/TotK. In ALttP, the bottles are basically mason jars, and you can buy one for 100 rupees, while BotW/TotK has plenty of food items you can cook and then sell, most if which even look to be restaurant quality (such as pumpkin pie in BotW, amd Pizza in TotK) based on their inventory icons.
To further the accuracy, another individual would have to: 1. Find the average cost of the comparable item irl to each currency (removing outliers) 2. Find the average price of a biggy (removing outliers) 3. Eat a biggy to justify it's price in game and removing or adding price equal to the percent enjoyment
Mario:coins, fire emblems: Gold [and despite some lazy theorists it's not actually based on the concept of gold it's based on the shorthand on the subject matter of the highest mark of the currency because in shadows of Valencia we're introduced to silver marks and the gold marks which are of course obviously going to be a slight change up on how the currency system works but in reality is still the same! ] [also in theory you could have gotten away with the eye drops but at the same time brands fluctuate with different prices so I understand why you went with the other route]
There are stacks of actual cash that translate into the coin based system, a coin would easily be at least 1 dollar meaning luigi can easily buy his own set of franchises.
@@Arcana_zero_studios, that’s assuming 1 G is equivalent to 1 USD. Plenty of countries in the real world have paper money, but that doesn’t automatically mean they’re valued the same, y’know?
its actually very well valued! They have a very good economy in ff7. Probably because even tho shinra has its little authoritharian rule in midgard, outside of it, theres no central bank to fuck up the economy. its possible that gil was the strongest of currencies and ended up being the most adopted!
Also wow this video is underrated. I assumed this had hundreds of thousands of views while watching but no, only ten thousand. Good work, you’re sure to rise.
Oh, have fun with the conversion for FFXIV! MMO Economies are absolutely freaking Ridiculous. Want a vial of metallic Dye enough to change the color of a single piece of gear? ONE MILLION GIL PLZ! FYI that's one third the apparoximate price of a (small) HOUSE.
A thing I've noticed about Japanese games versus Western games is that their cultural familiarity with Yen, which doesn't have a concept of splitting off their core denomination into a subdivision (i.e. there is no core dollar that is sub-divided into cents, as the Yen is the smallest subdivision already), is that they concieve of fantasy currency like Yen and total it all up into large amounts very readily, while in Western games they usually keep the total values much lower because the subdivision into cents is culturally acceptable. The result is a bunch of in-game prices that often seem extremely over-inflated to a westerner. As in, I'm playing Dragon's Dogma recently as an example, and you get 10s to 100s of *thousands* of a generic "Gold" currency all the time in the game. But if you know anything about the value of gold in the ancient world or middle ages, even a tiny speck of gold or a small nugget (let alone a full coin) was incredibly valuable. Having tens to hundreds of thousands of gold coins (the presumable standard for a generic fantasy currency) would make you richer than any king or emperor of Europe in the middle ages, and you'll quickly spend this money in-game on maybe a single weapon or two pieces of armor. And not even end game weapons or armor. Mid-game. Wealth beyond the imaginings of anyone apart from Crassus in Ancient Rome or maybe the Malians is completely normal in Japanese games solely because they don't seem to understand how genuinely rare gold was and is when used as currency while at the same time percieving of all other currencies as going through a Yen lens, and essentially calculating all money not on a higher denomination level like the dollar, but on the lowest denomination level of the cent. The only game I remember really getting this concept more correct was back in the days of early Vanilla World of Warcraft, before it became inundated with gold farmers and real money for in game currency transactions. For the first couple of Years of WoW, because currency started at effectively the penny-farthing level with bronze coins, then accumulated into the higher denomination of silver and finally into the highest denomination of gold, you might not see even a single piece of gold until you were around level 20-25, and it cost a player 40 gold to buy their mount at level 40, which was considered for a player to be a *major* financial investment.
Bro your almost 20 minutes video was not necessary. My advise is to learn how to edit. I think there may be some talent and potential in there some where but couldn't tell you for sure because i didn't watch the whole thing cause it was boring
Cloud always struck me as a whopper type of guy. You think you know a guy smh.
Cloud probably was, but Zack definitely hit up the MickyD's on the regular
Cloud is too emo and contrarian to be into anything so mainstream as either McD's or even Burger King. Cloud is attending a local eatery that specializes in only non-GMO, grass fed beef patties, with buns baked especially for every burger ordered with wheat harvested *that day* topped with pesticide-free raised organic tomatoes and lettuce. It's way too underground to even have a name, as it's a pop-up establishment that'll be gone from Sector 4 by the end of the week.
I think it’s a safe assumption that if Shinra Bucks are roughly equivalent to USD, that Gil is roughly equivalent to Yen
Watch Japanese streamers play any RPG and you will see them use '円' (えん/yen) as a stand-in for any fictitious currency because it's also the counter for round flat objects, so this is a fairly safe assumption for most games where common objects can be bought for a few hundred local currency.
All fantasy in-game currencies made by a Japanese dev should be presumed to be the equivalent of Yen. They make way more sense that way, as the Japanese measure Yen essentially atomically, from the smallest possible unit of currency, and do not have different denominations of currency like the split between dollar and cents in the US. The "Yen lens" is looking at currency as if the dollar didn't exist, and only cents did.
Damn dude, and so Cloud also falls to the Big Mac Craving... now I kinda want fan art of Travis, Leon, Ashley, Nemona and Cloud & Crew all waiting in line to order a Big Mac or everyone eating in a McDonald’s with their Big Macs.
Happy New Years! See you in 2024!
I'd like to see Munny from Kingdom Hearts be tackled, or maybe Golden Hanny Gold from the Rance series.
I'd imagine Aerith or Tifa can make something that would make a Big Mac look like a garbage burger but if Cloud is desperate I guess he could consider it.
Bro literally thinks they'd be good at making sandwiches because they're women /j
Jokes aside, unironically Barrett would probably have more experience cooking as a single father to an adopted daughter, he probably can take off his arm and replace it with a spatula which perfectly grips and flips patties using the same mechanisms that spin barrels.
@@Barquevious_Jackson You're right. Barrett would probably do that and his daughter would be delighted.
@@claytonrios1for the record, cloud would also be delighted, but he wouldn't admit it if you put a gun to his head
@@Barquevious_Jackson Barret only has one hand though. And his artificial hand is a minigun. Unless he's figured out a way to shoot a sandwich into existence, I'm thinking he's not the best hand in the kitchen.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe I like to think it can be changed out for other cybernetics. He just keeps his piece on him all the time in game because he prefers it that way.
All this just makes me think how incredibly low Cloud's fee was in the first mission, he did all that shit for more or less 20 dollars.
Also insane to realize that a cup of coffee costs more than a wound-healing, life restoring potion
You have to think that potions are like common cold medicine for our world.
Now this is the content I’m subscribed for. Keep up the good work.
"There's no fall damage in Final Fantasy."
I don't know, falling from the Sector 7 pillar sure seemed to do fall damage to Wedge. Cloud surviving his fall from Sector 5 could be attributed to him being a SOLDIER, or simply plot armour.
The giant ass sword broke his fall
@@F1nickyHow does landing on a giant ass sword hurt less than landing on concrete? If anything I think it would hurt more.
I mean his fall was also broken by the roof of the church, then the flowers
2:15
"There's no fall damage in final fantasy"
FFXIV tells me otherwise
Unless you are a Manderville.
2:03 is one hell of a verbal whiplash
My favourite part of the original FF7 was when Cloud gave Sephy the Black Materia at a McDonald's drive-thru. Can't wait to see Rebirth adapt this scene.
The first item I thought to use as a comparison was the grenade. It's 80 gil in ff7 (og) and apparently a real world grenade cost $45.
The problem there is grenades are pretty common in ff7, while I assume they're not for sale in our world. That's why coffee would be such a great conversion tool, it's demand would be similar in both worlds.
Where would you buy a grenade from?!?!?
@@liammcnicholas918 I live in Texas, so
Interesting concept.
I had always assumed 1 Gil was roughly 1 JPY.
Not that it matters anyway because the whole system breaks down once you're given the opportunity to buy the villa at Costa Del Sol for 300,000 Gil, lol.
I don't know why they priced it so low. 3 million would have been a more reasonable price, and it's not too hard to get that just by grinding All Materia.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter Even 3 million gil would have been cheap. They should have kept up the Gil = JPY equivalency and priced it at 300,000,000 gil/yen. Would have been more realistic and made for a greater challenge.
I need to replay 7, but doesn't that option come around after meteor is summoned? Maybe it's an apocalypse sale?
@@theextracrispycolonel9502 That would make sense, but according to the Final Fantasy Wiki the villa can be purchased at any point in the game.
I wonder if the big mac would be a major character's favorite food in the gold saucer story just like Jessie's pizza.
The mayor.
8:52 - You can't buy Aerith's umbrella... But could you sell it? And if so, do items in FF7 sell for a predictable percentage of their cost to buy? If the answer to both is yes, it should be trivial to work out the umbrella's value. (It still may not be ideal though, mostly because real life umbrellas can vary in price quite widely.)
I don't think we can use work gloves for the conversion considering they cost more than a giant fucking sword.
Cloud eventually went to work a Robot Chicken McDonalds to be able to secretly eat big macs on the job.
Dropped a meteor in the fryer
Truly, the most important questions to ask.
The fading audio during that fall clip was very clever
Happy New Year Meti Not The Bad Guy!
not a final fantasy fan, not a mcdonalds fan, hell not even your fan.
but thank you for the informative video, that changes now. I'll subscribe. lmao
Didn’t expect the Kamen Rider Buffa reference for the construction line.
I had never noticed those different prices in lower and upper plates, but it makes coplete sense that the terminal level captalists of Shinra would pay workers in money that can only be spent in Shinra approved/owned businesses
When I tried this, I used the Korean BBQ plate to work out the price. The Gil for ff7 flops there. I came out with a 12-15$ Korean BBQ plate being 70 gil. Otherwise Cloud bombed a reactor for... Less than ten dollars.
it's about sending a message
And "3000" would be cutting into Marlene's schooling money, at 2200 gil is 10 dollars.
@@Koniving Barrett's ammo cost a lot of money, she's got the bagged PBnJ
These are my favorite types of theory videos, I love this so much
I recently found this channel from an old mgs5 video after I randomly introduced or expressed some characters to my beloved. And I somehow feel like I’d seem you prior amd found you again after a long time.
Either way I hope you but nothing of the best pal! I’ll try to follow your journey!
Avalanche would boycott McDonald's for providing free meals to shinra occupational forces.
Cloud: “I’m so hungry, I need a Big Mac.”
Barrett: “Fool, stop giving those suckas money. Just eat one of the tents instead.”
Now THIS is the content I go on this app for.
Ah a lovely video before the new year.
Wish You a happy new year!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
heres a good one the shin megami tensei series in smt1 a guy exchanges your yen for macca is he ripping you off or giving you exact change and does the price inflate or deflate across diffrent games?
Can i just say, that i love the thumbnail for the video
This is the type of stupidity I am on TH-cam for. Well done!
Thumbnail Is Vibey
Amazing
Respect
Great Editing
Good Short Video
So When’s The Next Deep Intellectual Character Breakdown?
Please?
Please Meti, can you do a " the beauty of mario zucchero " ?, I think it was the only character in part 5 that you didn't make a video about, I love this style of video.
Meti's out here asking the important questions
This just makes me wanna watch the Robot Chicken parody where Cloud and crew are workers at “McDonald’s”, and Sephiroth is the manager. th-cam.com/video/wJDEDjG-MPI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hchx28PJmJtG4NkA
I love your currency series ❤😂
The Work Gloves break your own rules due to having higher attack power than other weapons, such as the Mythril Claw, which is essentially a bunch of knifes glued onto a glove. Just like the energy drink potion, it does not match its use.
7:20 So what you're saying, is that FF7 and especially Remake are Christmas games 😜. Great video as always.
God that's so awesome and merry
Now I am wondering what the price of one would be in Hyrule rupees.
While that can easily vary by which Zelda game you look at, I personally think thenbest ones to look at are A Link to the Past and BotW/TotK.
In ALttP, the bottles are basically mason jars, and you can buy one for 100 rupees, while BotW/TotK has plenty of food items you can cook and then sell, most if which even look to be restaurant quality (such as pumpkin pie in BotW, amd Pizza in TotK) based on their inventory icons.
To further the accuracy, another individual would have to:
1. Find the average cost of the comparable item irl to each currency (removing outliers)
2. Find the average price of a biggy (removing outliers)
3. Eat a biggy to justify it's price in game and removing or adding price equal to the percent enjoyment
Even SOLDIERS can’t resist the CHEMICAL BURGER
McDonalds worker Sephiroth McDonalds worker Sephiroth
Hey Bro great video, wanted to know if you needed a video editor/thumbnail designer for the channel?
Didn't know Gil was inspired by Holy Roman Empire currency.
Did you consider the korean BBQ available in the slums?
This implies the existence of Korea
there's a mistake at 13:10 you wrote the wrong number for the GP price on the original FF7
You forgot to account for whether this is before or after lightning released the extra 2 hours each day (the thirteenth hour) in ffxiii-3
If this conversion rate is correct that means in the final fantasy 7 remake cloud does the bombing mission for approximately $11
Mario:coins, fire emblems: Gold [and despite some lazy theorists it's not actually based on the concept of gold it's based on the shorthand on the subject matter of the highest mark of the currency because in shadows of Valencia we're introduced to silver marks and the gold marks which are of course obviously going to be a slight change up on how the currency system works but in reality is still the same! ] [also in theory you could have gotten away with the eye drops but at the same time brands fluctuate with different prices so I understand why you went with the other route]
Let’s go love this series
So cloud helped bomb a reactor and risked his life for $20??
I mean 20 bucks is 20 bucks after all
And they only had $5 on hand to pay him the first night
Luigi’s mansion, how many coins does does Luigi need to buy a big Mac?
There are stacks of actual cash that translate into the coin based system, a coin would easily be at least 1 dollar meaning luigi can easily buy his own set of franchises.
@@Arcana_zero_studios, that’s assuming 1 G is equivalent to 1 USD. Plenty of countries in the real world have paper money, but that doesn’t automatically mean they’re valued the same, y’know?
in kingdom hearts 1 a hotdog in traverse town cost a whopping 85.00 munny
13:09 whoops, used the wrong graphic
its actually very well valued! They have a very good economy in ff7. Probably because even tho shinra has its little authoritharian rule in midgard, outside of it, theres no central bank to fuck up the economy. its possible that gil was the strongest of currencies and ended up being the most adopted!
Now we need Torgal and Clive eating big macs
I still can't believe that McDonald haven't sponsor you.
Not only are calendars similar, the biggest difference is February has 30 days.
2:08 oh my god common writer
You considering doing something with GoW or something?
$1 USD = 220Gil made me smile way harder than it should have- it just feels so _right_
I'll take a chocobo burger for 500 Gil, Bob.
Japanese mcdonalds final fantasy ads look wild as hell, what...
"After a successful Avalanche operation."
Yeah okay.
Macca(SMT) for Macca’s!(Australian slang for McDonald’s)
The Lifestream consists of McDonald’s Sprite
What is the worth of a soul how many would it take to buy a big mac (Darksouls)
Glad to know you can hire a mercenary to blow up a reactor for about the price of 8 cups of coffee
The cursor pointer is wearing cotton gloves?
I guess it depends on the State.
In California he most likely need a Million Gil prices are so high is why I’m glad I left California years ago.
metis best video
13:10 You say in the original $1 is equivalent to 2.2 GP, while the graphic says 1.84 GP lol
Also wow this video is underrated. I assumed this had hundreds of thousands of views while watching but no, only ten thousand. Good work, you’re sure to rise.
Oh, have fun with the conversion for FFXIV! MMO Economies are absolutely freaking Ridiculous.
Want a vial of metallic Dye enough to change the color of a single piece of gear? ONE MILLION GIL PLZ!
FYI that's one third the apparoximate price of a (small) HOUSE.
I got a fantasy currency idea. Zeni from Dragon Ball
The burgers would be cheaper than this, but I can't guarantee they are made of cow and not Mutant dog
This means Cloud blew up a Reactor for about $20...
“I ain’t an ecoterrorist, but $20 is $20.”
How many Big Macs can you buy for a maxed out All materia?
How much gil is a maxed out all materia worth?
Michinaga jumpscare 🤣
Most American FF7 video
Based on clouds birthdate he is 2 years and a day older than me lol
without watching I'd guess...150 gil for a full meal
Peak content
Funny for you to think that a Big Mac is affordable and not the size of a Buffalo Chicken Slider
asking the real questions also I'm waiting for how many clams does Omori and friends From omori need to buy a big mac When JK
702 gil big mac
reddit tier content
Burger :)
A thing I've noticed about Japanese games versus Western games is that their cultural familiarity with Yen, which doesn't have a concept of splitting off their core denomination into a subdivision (i.e. there is no core dollar that is sub-divided into cents, as the Yen is the smallest subdivision already), is that they concieve of fantasy currency like Yen and total it all up into large amounts very readily, while in Western games they usually keep the total values much lower because the subdivision into cents is culturally acceptable.
The result is a bunch of in-game prices that often seem extremely over-inflated to a westerner.
As in, I'm playing Dragon's Dogma recently as an example, and you get 10s to 100s of *thousands* of a generic "Gold" currency all the time in the game. But if you know anything about the value of gold in the ancient world or middle ages, even a tiny speck of gold or a small nugget (let alone a full coin) was incredibly valuable. Having tens to hundreds of thousands of gold coins (the presumable standard for a generic fantasy currency) would make you richer than any king or emperor of Europe in the middle ages, and you'll quickly spend this money in-game on maybe a single weapon or two pieces of armor. And not even end game weapons or armor. Mid-game. Wealth beyond the imaginings of anyone apart from Crassus in Ancient Rome or maybe the Malians is completely normal in Japanese games solely because they don't seem to understand how genuinely rare gold was and is when used as currency while at the same time percieving of all other currencies as going through a Yen lens, and essentially calculating all money not on a higher denomination level like the dollar, but on the lowest denomination level of the cent.
The only game I remember really getting this concept more correct was back in the days of early Vanilla World of Warcraft, before it became inundated with gold farmers and real money for in game currency transactions. For the first couple of Years of WoW, because currency started at effectively the penny-farthing level with bronze coins, then accumulated into the higher denomination of silver and finally into the highest denomination of gold, you might not see even a single piece of gold until you were around level 20-25, and it cost a player 40 gold to buy their mount at level 40, which was considered for a player to be a *major* financial investment.
Kind of disappointed it's not a video about the big mac index purchase power of gil
edit: nvm that's exactly what this is
Excuse you but there is indeed fall damage in FF14 so your whole argument is now invalid
Tf
affordable? HAHHAHAHA
I wish Kingdom hearts had named their currency gil
Fair, but I also love "Munny" as a name for currency.
It’s crazy how the writing in this video about cloud ordering a Big Mac is better than the writing of the actual ff7 remake…
Bro your almost 20 minutes video was not necessary. My advise is to learn how to edit. I think there may be some talent and potential in there some where but couldn't tell you for sure because i didn't watch the whole thing cause it was boring
This is a very good question