Hou Yinchao vs Robert Gardos | Fang - Hui Cup Final 2018
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2018
- International Table Tennis Tournament held in Canada. Thanks to CCTTA which hosted this amazing competition.
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Шикарное название турнира, оказывается он существует, этот кубок😂
I like Hou Yinchao, fun to see his game.
But he should leave his fluids on the ground.
Is this Canada or China?
Gardos serves are legal?
Seems like Hou kept the ball away from Gardos’s powerful backhand more and more as the match progressed. Hou also slammed to Gardos’s mid forehand section for winners, Hou adapted quicker than Gardos, Gardos didn’t play his best games
It's just also a fact that the current equipment lend towards choppers being more relevant. Most players have adapted their games and are Ok to some extent with other players attacking first, and countering balls off the bounce/at the table (look at Lin Yun Ju, Wang Chuqin, or Lin Gaoyuan.) The tradeoff is their opening, particularly on heavy underspin or a lot of variety of spin on the ball that a chopper can deliver makes them much weaker. They also don't seem to have great touch, almost none of them are able to dropshot and make it a double bounce off of a chop while Hou was away from the table. For a chopper at that age, he would never be able to get to that ball, or would be dead trying to do that after the first game or two.
Инчао канадцем стал...
Wonder how HYC will perform if he plays against SP like the old master Juanito He ZhiWen? Young Chinese players are not familiar with it so he wins......Gardo is a good player but also fell victim to SP that makes IR skill irrelevant.
thats the point!!!
Wat s d equipment of hou yingchao
Someone posted 30 July 2019:
Butterfly Viscaria
DHS Hurricane 3 Provincial
Butterfly Dignics 05
@@spaceinvader384 so stupid what you answered... its definitly wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
it is:
DHS Hurricane Classic blade
a chinese rubber on forehand from sword king i think..
and backhand he got friendship 755 or other short pips
@@xSauseBrausex
DHS Hurricane Classic blade
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@@xSauseBrausex Are you blind? I said someone posted. Info DID NOT come from me. Why are you so irritated? Your answer is not complete anyway so stop being so rude & nasty. Open up your mind. You could be wrong.
侯英超正手无法像反手一样削球是他的致命伤
他早兩年奪了全中國冠軍 💪
沒有什麼致命傷？😊😊😊
臼和拱一樣很大威脅！
TLDR
Gardos should have played more to Hou's backhand, or play to wide forehand and block to backhand. He was feeding his forehand way too much. Hou's third ball is pretty devastating.
I thought choppers were going extinct? At least that’s what the tv commentators have the audience believe. Honestly, I see that Hou has mastery of both defense and attacking styles, it’s obvious that he has more skills than Gardos, Gardos has mastered the attack vs attack game, but not the attack vs defense vs attack again vs defense again, it’s too much skills to master
Correct. And you raise a very good point, and one that I have made before regarding the lack of teaching, promoting, and educating of the defensive styles of play. It makes you wonder how much more prevelant the style would be if it was taught as much as the attacking style.
The top level of the sport is getting more and more hostile for a chopper. In a way, the style is heading towards extinction. The last time a chopper won the world championships was in the early 50s I think (Richard Bergmann). A big reason it hasn't happened since is because of the sponge era. Now it's getting faster and faster. Not even long pips are that useful at the top level now because of the reduced spin with plastic ball. Joo even said in an interview if he was coming up now he'd use short pips. But short pips aren't thr answer either. More spin variation and makes it difficult for opponent, but they are also difficult for the chopper too.
I don't see things getting any better for choppers unless something levels the playing field (like some new effective equipment or some rule change like size of table).
The serve and volley style in tennis is practically dead, for similar reasons the chopping style is dying in table tennis. Conditions affect what approaches work best. The slower tennis courts and grippy poly strings mean players play with more control and spin and rallies are longer because of it. It's actually been good for the sport if you look at its popularity, at least outside the US. But can we honestly say that short rallies and faster winners, including a reduced number of styles, is beneficial for table tennis as a sport?
@@sjjapp Hou Yingchao won the Chinese national table tennis championship this year at 39 years old.
@@zazenforever4940 he did, yes. I'm not saying the best of best choppers can't win titles anymore, they can. But they are at a disadvantage, and winning the biggest titles would require a superhuman effort that even if technically still achievable, it wouldn't be sustainable (for reasons mentioned earlier). That doesn't have to be the case, but it will continue to be until conditions in the sport become more balanced. Unfortunately, it seems to be going further away from being balanced with each decade, starting from being very balanced in the pre sponge era.
There's an interview on ittf youtube channel with a former Chinese national chopper (Ding something, can't remember) talking about the current climate specfically regarding choppers. If you're interested look it up. He summarizes some of the key issues for choppers right now.
@@zazenforever4940 I will agree with the point you made before me though about the lack of resources essentially for choppers. You're taught that chopping is the wrong way to play. Most players have no education of whst defending actually involves, and therefore see them as junk players, players to get used to or even avoid.
And even if you're intent on learning the chopping style, who's going to teach you? Very difficult, even now. Most TH-cam videos and articles on yhr internet tell you how to beat choppers, and few tell you how to become one.
This is definitely part of the problem. It's not quite the same in China, Japan, and Korea though
There's definitely more awareness of the style in those countries, but it's still not what it should be in my opinion. Table tennis needs to be more viewer friendly, and chopping is fantastic to watch.
最尾個球贛鳩鳩搓比人沖？😢😮
算什麼專業隊？😮😮😮
I don't know why Europeans are 500 points worse playing choppers than when they play against topspin. Gardos looks like he could be 2500 in this video.
Yo come on, put some respect on Hou Yingchao's name. He is and was a world-class chopper. Many professionals have been made to look like fools playing against him.
@@CalvinAytch Except the Chinese, because they actually know how to loop underspin and vary their balls. Only non asians struggle because their fundamentals aren't as good, and because their strategy on underspin is terrible. You have all the time in the world if you structure your points correctly against chop, there's no reason you should lose as a top player. Considering he played Ma Long extremely close, his game isn't the problem, it's his strategy and ability to typically read and loop varying degrees of underspin. I don't know why that's hard to hear, but it's the truth
@@Dylan-gu1ug
It's only hard to hear in that it's saying nothing at great length. You haven't given a single example of a point in this game that systematically deconstructs what Hou did, throughout the point, and how Gardos failed to respond correctly. I know that could open up a can of verbal worms.
Chinese players play very well against choppers. They play very well against _everyone._ Gardos had trouble with a troublesome chopper. Xu Xin never seemed to lose to choppers. He seems to play against choppers almost like it's a rest break.
And then he lost to Ma Te.
@@-danR Ma Te is on a different level than any other chopper to probably ever play the game. This is NOT Ma Te, and the fact you're using him as an analogy to Gardos, a top 50 player in the world, losing to a chopper, who's ranked 500 in the world and old, is a joke. To give you an idea, David Zhuang was top 100, would you think Gardos losing to Zhuang is pretty bad? How about a modern example, would you think Gardos losing to Kanak Jha is pretty bad? Because while it might not be terrible, it would be considered an upset if Kanak were to win. The fact Gardos lost to an old chopper is absolutely terrible, and it's because Europeans suck against chop; you can slice it any way you want to, anyone that knows anything about table tennis will tell you that Europeans are generally better at playing against topspin or counterlooping than playing against defensive players. I mean, these choppers get their rank from somewhere, do you think they're getting it from beating Chinese players? think again
@@Dylan-gu1ug It seems like you did indeed underestimate Hou Yingchao. He just won the China Nationals, beating both Wang Chuqin and Liang Jingkun (I hope you'll agree that they are both phenomenal players), and placing ahead of Me Te (who also did exceptionally well!)