Tarisland or Throne and Liberty which game suits you more? If you want a more in-depth video on these games make sure you check out my 100+ hour reviews!
Throne and liberty for sure. I love that mmorpg feel and taking on dungeons with a team. We waited tooo long for an mmorpg that is done right, I think this might be it!
Unequip your gear and put it in storage. Put 30 holy vials in storage too. Make level one character and equip it with your main gear and the holy vials. Just exit starting town and turn hadum realm on. First hit gets you level 20. Takes about 2-3minutes to get level 60. Bam, you're done with Alt.
Throne and Liberty - Very heavy grind, can play without any serious limits. Just like Lineage/Aion, the GvG content is the best in the market. Also like Lineage/Aion, the games are absurdly p2w. Tarisland - No grind, your time gets you a lot of stuff but most of your progress is heavily limited. CBT p2w started out equivalent to Lost Ark, recently announced changes make it similar to GW2 p2w, which is very light. We will see what systems they release because this could still change. I think both games are pretty good and fit different playstyles. I will play Tarisland on release because I don't have 16+ hours a day to devote to grinding like I did in early 2000. There is another weakness of Tarisland and that would be server activity. Since there are heavy limits on the game, people will hit their limits and log off, limiting server activity over time. Hopefully the SEASONS system is the remedy for this problem.
so basically u saying Tarisland is boring after idk like 50 hours? And in TL u still have something to do? Then the choice is rlly easy, if u dont want to get bored after 1 week
wasnt able to play TL so far, so I wait for the EU release. Tarisland I played the last beta and stopped the last 3 days. I was bored. The dungeons and raids were way to easy and PvP it was not very satisfying with the class I chose. I was rank 50 in the Arena by jumping and keeping my heals on cd while only playing alone with zero communication, oof. If they are able to tune Tarisland better, Ill play it again for the reasons you mentioned. Besides that Tarisland was too easy in general, I would love to have more skills per class to chose from, similar to TL. Every class has a set skillset of 8 and that's not enough IMO. Other than that, nice vid spid.
@@nekura devs that lies on their players? Big red flag lol. In T&L, you can easily farm the premium currency. Ofcourse whales will be able to get items more easily but you have to take in mind they also grind in real life, while f2p grind in game, you just have to choose where to grind.
How can people say Tarisland looks good ? The game looks like anything that released in the past 5+ years to be really gentle. I really dont get how anyone can get attracted to a bad looking game who have no personnalisation of gameplay what so ever and being giga whale friendly
The no personalization and giga whale friendly I can understand from your comment, but bad looking game? There are many bad looking games that are loved by many. If a game is fun, players will often look pass the dated graphics. Good examples are OSRS, WoW and FF14.
@@rambii. No hate or anything just play the video of the game and you will realise what i mean by "bad looking game" the game looks empty anywhere, like 3 tree and 1 bush with 3 monsters doesnt make you feel anything about the game. I dont know what OSRS but i do agree on the FF14 point since the game aimed for a "realistic" graphic style. On the other hand WoW got into a totaly different idea and is not suffering from the time passing like the "realistic style". Again this is my point a view and it doesnt mean you should hate any game i dislike, that's why i said "How can people say Tarisland looks good ?" i just dont understand
Fans like me of oldschool tabletop, dnd etc. would find these games appealing. It is of the essence of western rpg, that is what we are looking for. Not much about the medium of the game. If you don't understand why we like it, I think you must understand first why we like it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And that is why games like this exist. And not for everybody, certainly not for you.
It's similar to a market economy. You're not buying things from a game company. You're selling and buying things on the exchange that other players have caught and eaten. It's not Pay2Win. This is a free game, and everything can be obtained through hunting and crafting. It may take more time, but.
@@SpidMMO Items and Solant are ultimately obtained through hunting. If you are short on time and have some spare time, you are free to purchase items hunted by others with cash at the exchange.
@@SpidMMO Pay-to-win, as it says, means buying with cash. This is Lucent, and you don't have to buy with cash. You can obtain Lucents by registering drop items you hunt on the exchange, so you can get items without buying them with cash.
Thanks for Your video :) I dont like p2w in games too. Imagine there will be an option to buy skills in real life... Some '"whales" could buy skills and become as good as for example football player Ronaldo in one minute without trainig at all... Atleast there is no option for buying talents and skills. Best Regards!
I played both game and Tarisland is no match for TL, TL is a true mmo and really fun, and Tarisland is more like a mobile game and pvp is trash pve is boring you you are max skills in low lvl and there is no more skills.
You forgot to mention that a F2P in T&L can sell gear for real money currency and be able to contest whales as F2P, meanwhile in Tarisland you can't fight whales with anything.
@@SpidMMO I mean, that's what they ''say'', but they still removed all the ''f2p friendly'' from all their socials and lied about everything. So i'll wait to see how the game really is on release, since they act all shady and luring. Also having the best gear droppable is not really the best thing, because with that you nulify the crafting in the game and make all of that process useless, you might aswell remove it. The best gear should always be the craftable one, that requires time and investment, not some random thing that everyone can just randomly drop it. And are you really sure that they removed any way of purchasing gold with real money? because if you can still do that, you can still buy anything from the market with real money. So that's nothing different from T&L and the only difference it would be that in T&L you can actually make ''real money value'' in game, just by playing for free.
EASY ANSWER! if you want easy WOW with decent raids and boss fights - Tarisland, short and fun enough play intervals. if you want a full time MMO, a WOW replacement - Throne of Liberty, lots to do, deep combat.
Yeah, once you said Throne of Liberty is p2w and people can just spend some cash, that made me instantly drop out. Imagine if it was f2p but they created dope skins/pets/mounts and maybe a battle pass instead of being able to just drop cash and be ahead of everyone lmao. Woulda been the best game ever. Console needed a good mmorpg, I guess their loss though. It’ll be great the first few months but then once everyone sees the p2w shit, everyone’s going to quit. Will be a nice cash grab for a few of the owners though. They know what they’re doin
first find out how the p2w actucally works. U can everything get for free, only just by doing instances u sell items for lucents and u can buy anything u want :)
@@sykysykyc4436 The p2w is for crafting and becoming better. Top players will be people that just drop a bunch of cash. So grind for 10+ hours, 7 days a week to be above average but get smoked by everyone that drops money and grinds? How do you people play games like that? Insane to me. But hey, give those companies your money. Doesn’t effect me
@@jamesmichael9341 do u even play on KR? I play there 14days im full blue +9 or purple +3/+4. playing 4 hours a day. 0 money spent. I got 80% my skills purple. So i dont see a problem ;)
People that enjoy pvp will love throne n liberty, it just sucks they release similar dates(maybe) i wanted to play both but tnl is definitely the better game
Been playing the chinese beta and damn the combat is clunky. The game is also heavily ”micro managed" there is daily level cap. Heavy limit on how much you can craft. Market isnot exactly open, you have to use gold rather than silver which is purchased.
Obviously the one to play is the one actually MADE for PC. Just wait for Throne and Liberty, cuz Tarisland is another mobile MMO ported to PC just to make money
well... both games look good and fresh, but from my understanding, they are not casual friendly at all. May be in few patches or expansion or two away, in a couple of years, these games will be more appealing for not so hardcore gamers... given that they survive the market with their business models and monetization as you did not say a lot about it... meanwhile I will stuck with GW2
Order and chaos 2 has no equal dudes is the WoW on mobiles and a massive vast open world with mounts that you not only travel but fight upon. Many tried to make for mobiles worthy of Word of Warcraft and Guild Wars but all are fake in front of Order and Chaos 2 Glory that even with no Battlefield - Arena and no Seasonal Events so No p2win is a real KING here and the number one problem is that many times we are so many that server not even enter on the game from hours to even day.. !! But if you love phantasy world especially Western one Order and Chaos 2 give it on the Best Level. Every day we are here and have fun with our friends and many nice moments in it. Order and Chaos 2 still is the KING. Trashland odin mir , and anime carnivals with p2win are only for 3 days-max month.. But with order and chaos 2 you will fall in love even with no Battlefield arena and Seasonal beautiful events. Order and Chaos 2 has no equal and of course better graphics and world than order and chaos online. ;)
I too like a lot oac2 is my favorite game of all time but they will close it if you like it or not in iOS game is pretty dead idk about android they have deleted all the currencies in game so even if we want to keep game opened by giving them some money we cannot game need maintenance and servers to maintain opened have a cost is sad to know that even if the game may be still playable we can't avoid the fact that will be closed
@@faarlhearcodmobile486I hope so but Chinese are only care for insane graphics and our wallet.. Europeans or Western Companies historically have made the Most Unique Games from PC and mobiles. Of course Turkey too that gave us the unique Mount and Blade that I never forgot but no offence Russians and Eastern Asians most Koreans are only showed us either only Asian theme like Perfect World or they care about P2win as it is the only thing and and the Best sector to call an classic phantasy mmo rpg as the Best game.. WoW is the King on PC and Order and Chaos 2 for mobiles. Albion next but with that camera like I play Age of Empires IdT so/ If WoW would love to be more famous they would import their Unique and Precious Game WoW on mobile version. But they have became tired and no good mood to open more the glory of WOW , that of course they don't need it but imagine this game on phones or tablets how much profits would gain more from the moment the player activity would drive on red 😂😂.. Well I do hope the same for tarisland but I watch Spid a long time now and Im not certain at all not if its relevant to WOW but even if its competitive to a ghost game like order and chaos 2!
Global cooldown a big no for me,stop this bs of course has TL classes if you play with 1h sword&shild you are a tank you play with GS you are melee DD(like somekind gladiator),Bow/XBow?now you are a Archer,playing Daggers?now you are a assassin
Wich one ? Chrono Odysse and Blue Protocol bro ! :-D What is sure is that WOW, FF14 and TESO are definitly dead in 2024 (too old and too ugly)... The maps of Thrones and Liberty are not so nice. They feel empty... If the story of Tarisland is really good, why not to try but it will be difficult to do it better than FF14 or WOW.
It’s literally the same as every other mmorpg mobile game. I’ve played 3 that look EXACTLY like it. Will be fun for a few months, they’ll make a bunch of cash and then after about 6-8 months it’ll die out. Thrones of Liberty looks like it can go big considering it’ll be Pc and console. Hopefully it’s cross platform and cross progression though.
Oh never mind, I just got to the P2W part for Throne of Liberty. No point in playing it if people can just spend money. I grind for 10 hours a day when someone can drop a couple hundred bucks and be right there with me? Or even ahead of me?? Lmao hell nawe. Passin on it, there’s many other mmorpg coming out this year anyways. Grind vs credit card aint it anymore.
Tarisland or Throne and Liberty which game suits you more? If you want a more in-depth video on these games make sure you check out my 100+ hour reviews!
Throne and liberty for sure. I love that mmorpg feel and taking on dungeons with a team. We waited tooo long for an mmorpg that is done right, I think this might be it!
You know how to make heart content I swear . I also like how calm and unbiased you are when you do your reviews.
Thanks, appreciate it!
do you need to play multiple classes in TL? that's what I hate in BDM.
Unequip your gear and put it in storage. Put 30 holy vials in storage too. Make level one character and equip it with your main gear and the holy vials. Just exit starting town and turn hadum realm on. First hit gets you level 20. Takes about 2-3minutes to get level 60. Bam, you're done with Alt.
Dont have pc so option is Tarisland and maybe I like it a bit more too for being a fantasy world more similar to my oac2
I like fantasy more too!
Throne and Liberty - Very heavy grind, can play without any serious limits. Just like Lineage/Aion, the GvG content is the best in the market. Also like Lineage/Aion, the games are absurdly p2w.
Tarisland - No grind, your time gets you a lot of stuff but most of your progress is heavily limited. CBT p2w started out equivalent to Lost Ark, recently announced changes make it similar to GW2 p2w, which is very light. We will see what systems they release because this could still change.
I think both games are pretty good and fit different playstyles. I will play Tarisland on release because I don't have 16+ hours a day to devote to grinding like I did in early 2000. There is another weakness of Tarisland and that would be server activity. Since there are heavy limits on the game, people will hit their limits and log off, limiting server activity over time. Hopefully the SEASONS system is the remedy for this problem.
so basically u saying Tarisland is boring after idk like 50 hours? And in TL u still have something to do? Then the choice is rlly easy, if u dont want to get bored after 1 week
wasnt able to play TL so far, so I wait for the EU release. Tarisland I played the last beta and stopped the last 3 days. I was bored. The dungeons and raids were way to easy and PvP it was not very satisfying with the class I chose. I was rank 50 in the Arena by jumping and keeping my heals on cd while only playing alone with zero communication, oof. If they are able to tune Tarisland better, Ill play it again for the reasons you mentioned.
Besides that Tarisland was too easy in general, I would love to have more skills per class to chose from, similar to TL. Every class has a set skillset of 8 and that's not enough IMO.
Other than that, nice vid spid.
T&L is 10 X Better! But there are other MMORPGs that could be better then both!
Not sure if 10 x better, however it is maybe 10x more p2w
@@SpidMMO both are p2w and for sure mobile games are mostly p2w . I got used to it , so now I focus on the gameplay and if the games is actually fun.
@@GreatMobileGaming Tarisland is still way less p2w, so more me it's definitely better
@@nekura devs that lies on their players? Big red flag lol. In T&L, you can easily farm the premium currency. Ofcourse whales will be able to get items more easily but you have to take in mind they also grind in real life, while f2p grind in game, you just have to choose where to grind.
@@Stunlock-e5xthey lied started bad but they can fix their errors
Do any of this game has housing systems?
omg we need a date hollyyyyy
How can people say Tarisland looks good ? The game looks like anything that released in the past 5+ years to be really gentle. I really dont get how anyone can get attracted to a bad looking game who have no personnalisation of gameplay what so ever and being giga whale friendly
The no personalization and giga whale friendly I can understand from your comment, but bad looking game? There are many bad looking games that are loved by many. If a game is fun, players will often look pass the dated graphics. Good examples are OSRS, WoW and FF14.
@@rambii. No hate or anything just play the video of the game and you will realise what i mean by "bad looking game" the game looks empty anywhere, like 3 tree and 1 bush with 3 monsters doesnt make you feel anything about the game.
I dont know what OSRS but i do agree on the FF14 point since the game aimed for a "realistic" graphic style. On the other hand WoW got into a totaly different idea and is not suffering from the time passing like the "realistic style". Again this is my point a view and it doesnt mean you should hate any game i dislike, that's why i said "How can people say Tarisland looks good ?" i just dont understand
Fans like me of oldschool tabletop, dnd etc. would find these games appealing. It is of the essence of western rpg, that is what we are looking for. Not much about the medium of the game. If you don't understand why we like it, I think you must understand first why we like it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And that is why games like this exist. And not for everybody, certainly not for you.
Playing Tarisland but i do hope they add more skills or more skill changes in talent tree
what is your no.1 mmo right now?
Throne and liberty is looking extremely promising!! Aww man. MMORPG fans will love this one.
Tarisland for me now is the way to go, even if your progress is locked I hope you can do pvp endless like arena or BG's
It's similar to a market economy. You're not buying things from a game company. You're selling and buying things on the exchange that other players have caught and eaten. It's not Pay2Win. This is a free game, and everything can be obtained through hunting and crafting. It may take more time, but.
So if you buy currency through the in game shop with real money and use that currency to get the best gear, what are you doing? What is that called?
@@SpidMMO Items and Solant are ultimately obtained through hunting.
If you are short on time and have some spare time, you are free to purchase items hunted by others with cash at the exchange.
So basically if u have short time to play u can pay to win to best gear@@justicegenesis6726
@@SpidMMO
Pay-to-win, as it says, means buying with cash. This is Lucent, and you don't have to buy with cash.
You can obtain Lucents by registering drop items you hunt on the exchange, so you can get items without buying them with cash.
If I’m a whale and I just hit lv 50, can I buy the full epic gear with lucent that I bought for real money? Or no
T&L seems to be on my list. Already done the art style of WoW so will look for something else to lose my time into.
Bro, good videos. Any idea when tarisland is getting released?
Haha, was typing this as you mentioned speculative release dates 😂
lol!@@Fold_Mobile_Gaming
Thanks for Your video :) I dont like p2w in games too. Imagine there will be an option to buy skills in real life... Some '"whales" could buy skills and become as good as for example football player Ronaldo in one minute without trainig at all... Atleast there is no option for buying talents and skills. Best Regards!
I agree, and good example Ronaldo best player siu 0 p2w
I played both game and Tarisland is no match for TL, TL is a true mmo and really fun, and Tarisland is more like a mobile game and pvp is trash pve is boring you you are max skills in low lvl and there is no more skills.
You forgot to mention that a F2P in T&L can sell gear for real money currency and be able to contest whales as F2P, meanwhile in Tarisland you can't fight whales with anything.
With the new changes to Tarisland you can’t whale anymore, best gear is dropped in dungeons and raids no longer buyable
@@SpidMMO for real??? They removed p2w???
Yeah for the full info watch my video on it th-cam.com/video/JXQ-YiwYiCM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RBufJus4FhZGFxEa
@@SpidMMO I mean, that's what they ''say'', but they still removed all the ''f2p friendly'' from all their socials and lied about everything. So i'll wait to see how the game really is on release, since they act all shady and luring. Also having the best gear droppable is not really the best thing, because with that you nulify the crafting in the game and make all of that process useless, you might aswell remove it. The best gear should always be the craftable one, that requires time and investment, not some random thing that everyone can just randomly drop it. And are you really sure that they removed any way of purchasing gold with real money? because if you can still do that, you can still buy anything from the market with real money. So that's nothing different from T&L and the only difference it would be that in T&L you can actually make ''real money value'' in game, just by playing for free.
Hes paid by the tarisland dev. To defend and backtrack his p2w look to them.
EASY ANSWER!
if you want easy WOW with decent raids and boss fights - Tarisland, short and fun enough play intervals.
if you want a full time MMO, a WOW replacement - Throne of Liberty, lots to do, deep combat.
I agree
FF14 and gw2 still the best mmorpgs in 2024?
Yeah, once you said Throne of Liberty is p2w and people can just spend some cash, that made me instantly drop out. Imagine if it was f2p but they created dope skins/pets/mounts and maybe a battle pass instead of being able to just drop cash and be ahead of everyone lmao. Woulda been the best game ever. Console needed a good mmorpg, I guess their loss though. It’ll be great the first few months but then once everyone sees the p2w shit, everyone’s going to quit. Will be a nice cash grab for a few of the owners though. They know what they’re doin
first find out how the p2w actucally works. U can everything get for free, only just by doing instances u sell items for lucents and u can buy anything u want :)
@@sykysykyc4436 The p2w is for crafting and becoming better. Top players will be people that just drop a bunch of cash. So grind for 10+ hours, 7 days a week to be above average but get smoked by everyone that drops money and grinds? How do you people play games like that? Insane to me. But hey, give those companies your money. Doesn’t effect me
@@jamesmichael9341 do u even play on KR? I play there 14days im full blue +9 or purple +3/+4. playing 4 hours a day. 0 money spent. I got 80% my skills purple. So i dont see a problem ;)
@@sykysykyc4436 Cool? So if someone plays as much as you and drops $20,000, what would he have?
@@jamesmichael9341 smtg i can get in 1 - 2 months? and ill be happy i can sell him my drops for lucent and earn lucents free. ez
they both look like a generic asian mmo but in eyeing on TL for that cross-platform mass PVP. I love Siege.
People that enjoy pvp will love throne n liberty, it just sucks they release similar dates(maybe) i wanted to play both but tnl is definitely the better game
Yeah hopefully they launch few months apart want to play both games!
You could immediately see it if you’re use to playing classic mmorpgs
MOM ! I AM ON TV ! ❤
Been playing the chinese beta and damn the combat is clunky. The game is also heavily ”micro managed" there is daily level cap. Heavy limit on how much you can craft. Market isnot exactly open, you have to use gold rather than silver which is purchased.
Throne and Liberty are a completely different, much larger target. There is nothing to compare here. Throne is better than Tarisland in every respect.
Tarisland??? WTH not even comparable bruuh, it's a trash game since it's from china, auto trash.
Tarisland does not have auto, at least watch the video first
Obviously the one to play is the one actually MADE for PC. Just wait for Throne and Liberty, cuz Tarisland is another mobile MMO ported to PC just to make money
I’ll go for both, but most hyped about tarisland. Play on pc and then on mobile is a killer for me
well... both games look good and fresh, but from my understanding, they are not casual friendly at all. May be in few patches or expansion or two away, in a couple of years, these games will be more appealing for not so hardcore gamers... given that they survive the market with their business models and monetization as you did not say a lot about it... meanwhile I will stuck with GW2
Tarisland is supposed to be more causal friendly
LOL ofc even the game is casual friendly if you dont play that game for a couple of years ofc there's a lot to catch up XD
@@SpidMMOagreed
Comparing a real mmo vs a mobile game implemented for pc :), cmon Taris land had litteraly 3buttons and one dimentional
Ok great Tarisland it is then its 2024 Fack that grinding BS that's so 2004 Silkroad style of gameplay... (Silkroad online if you know you know)
Order and chaos 2 has no equal dudes is the WoW on mobiles and a massive vast open world with mounts that you not only travel but fight upon. Many tried to make for mobiles worthy of Word of Warcraft and Guild Wars but all are fake in front of Order and Chaos 2 Glory that even with no Battlefield - Arena and no Seasonal Events so No p2win is a real KING here and the number one problem is that many times we are so many that server not even enter on the game from hours to even day.. !! But if you love phantasy world especially Western one Order and Chaos 2 give it on the Best Level. Every day we are here and have fun with our friends and many nice moments in it. Order and Chaos 2 still is the KING. Trashland odin mir , and anime carnivals with p2win are only for 3 days-max month.. But with order and chaos 2 you will fall in love even with no Battlefield arena and Seasonal beautiful events. Order and Chaos 2 has no equal and of course better graphics and world than order and chaos online. ;)
I too like a lot oac2 is my favorite game of all time but they will close it if you like it or not in iOS game is pretty dead idk about android they have deleted all the currencies in game so even if we want to keep game opened by giving them some money we cannot game need maintenance and servers to maintain opened have a cost is sad to know that even if the game may be still playable we can't avoid the fact that will be closed
And yes me too I think that nowadays oac2 is the best with what it got and the way of how it got but game is sadly destroyed too now lol
Tarisland is the only thing that could be slightly similar to oac2
@@faarlhearcodmobile486I hope so but Chinese are only care for insane graphics and our wallet..
Europeans or Western Companies historically have made the Most Unique Games from PC and mobiles.
Of course Turkey too that gave us the unique Mount and Blade that I never forgot but no offence Russians and Eastern Asians most Koreans are only showed us either only Asian theme like Perfect World or they care about P2win as it is the only thing and and the Best sector to call an classic phantasy mmo rpg as the Best game.. WoW is the King on PC and Order and Chaos 2 for mobiles. Albion next but with that camera like I play Age of Empires IdT so/
If WoW would love to be more famous they would import their Unique and Precious Game WoW on mobile version. But they have became tired and no good mood to open more the glory of WOW , that of course they don't need it but imagine this game on phones or tablets how much profits would gain more from the moment the player activity would drive on red 😂😂.. Well I do hope the same for tarisland but I watch Spid a long time now and Im not certain at all not if its relevant to WOW but even if its competitive to a ghost game like order and chaos 2!
@@poseidon3292 I know that Asians games are mostly pay to win
f u have good pc go for throne and liberty
Global cooldown a big no for me,stop this bs of course has TL classes if you play with 1h sword&shild you are a tank you play with GS you are melee DD(like somekind gladiator),Bow/XBow?now you are a Archer,playing Daggers?now you are a assassin
THE QUINFALL
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Wich one ? Chrono Odysse and Blue Protocol bro ! :-D What is sure is that WOW, FF14 and TESO are definitly dead in 2024 (too old and too ugly)... The maps of Thrones and Liberty are not so nice. They feel empty... If the story of Tarisland is really good, why not to try but it will be difficult to do it better than FF14 or WOW.
Neither of both! You shouldn't wait or hope for some kind of miracle. Just wait, and let's see what game will be more P2W...
Of course,
Many people should play Throne and Liberty.
Expiration? Lol
of curse i choose tarislerty
100% Tarisland
It’s literally the same as every other mmorpg mobile game. I’ve played 3 that look EXACTLY like it. Will be fun for a few months, they’ll make a bunch of cash and then after about 6-8 months it’ll die out. Thrones of Liberty looks like it can go big considering it’ll be Pc and console. Hopefully it’s cross platform and cross progression though.
Oh never mind, I just got to the P2W part for Throne of Liberty. No point in playing it if people can just spend money. I grind for 10 hours a day when someone can drop a couple hundred bucks and be right there with me? Or even ahead of me?? Lmao hell nawe. Passin on it, there’s many other mmorpg coming out this year anyways. Grind vs credit card aint it anymore.
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I'm playing tarisland look better