I learned about Kim Philby in the 1980-es as a student in the Soviet Union at the lectures, about "countering recruiting by foreign intelligence", which we, future engineers in electronics, had to attend, keep the very fact of having those lectures secret, and with our lecture notes not allowed to leave the lecture room... The lecturer from KGB was very proud to tell us about the spy Philby and how long he has been serving the Soviet Union. At that time, I was feeling myself anti-soviet enough to hate this British betrayer even more than the KGB lecturer. Even now, I believe, that the appearance of such types in British elites is a diagnosis of deep deficiency, probably manifested nowadays in the establishments following new megalomaniac anti-humanity projects like those of WEF, "net zero" and similar neo-totalitarian doctrine-based agendas.
Nowadays, a son of KGB-general-oligarch is openly sitting in the Chamber of Lords (Lebedev) and owns the British press (The Independent, from those I know).
True. But I struggle to believe he didn’t know of the poverty in the USSR/ Russia before exile. I feel power and thrill were his motives with a lack of ethics. Not Ideology
2 days before Kim Philby fled to Russia he was observed buying 100 tubes of toothpaste......our secret service were baffled until he resurfaced in Russia and they realised too late that Russia didn't sell toothpaste at the time!!
@@ajaysidhu471trust me bro! That's the source😂 Just imagine the entire soviet union without toothpaste, the lengths people go to delude themselves and others.
The whole Cambridge spies issue is so fascinating to me. I dare say it reveals a great deal of insight into the British mindset and culture of the time. The Americans were so angry after they found out all the BS the British intelligence services were getting up to. 😂
Didn’t they SAY they looked at him because obviously “common” people were saying he must have let him know, but they could find no evidence of such and that was the end of it?
Or just an idealist. They`re often even more dangerous than psychopaths, because they believe that what they are doing is noble and good, and those on other side of the political spectrum to be dead wrong. It`s been extracted a ton of insight on this phenomenon from the Nuremberg Trials. Most of the high ranking nazis were in fact not psychopaths, but idealists. Or simpley fanatics. That would also cover it.
Nowadays, a son of KGB-general-oligarch is openly sitting in the Chamber of Lords (Lebedev) and owns the British press (The Independent, from those I know).
Johnson gave a peerage to Evgeny Lebedev, Russian businessman, London based owner of the Evening Standard among other interests, and notable son of KGB Agent
Give credit where Credit is due very interesting guest I grew up through these decades of spying never really understood what was going on. Look forward to be able to get more information about the saga of the 60s 70s and even the 50s until he defected.
Even before this the Americans should of never recruited Gehlen he for one knew who were the doubles for Ukrainians over 135 agents were killed during 1949 to 1953 . The MI6 had a covert program training over 80 Ukrainians to be parachuted into Soviet Ukraine one Ukrainian double Myron Matievienko was known by Gehlen working for NKVD and Gestapo with Myron Kim Philby so through Myron the Soviets knew were to capture all of the British agents except for two that survived the last drop notified MI6 that there's a mole in British intelligence this was in 1953 . Why British intelligence didn't arrest Kim Philby alot earlier beats me .
There is a very good programme I think they called it Burgess, Maclean and Philby', it was on BBC and also TH-cam. The was also a good play by 'Alan Benett' about the late Queen's picture expert 'Anthony Blunt' called 'A question of Attribution', its very good it's on google.
I don't think you can understand Philby without reading Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier - he was part of the same intellectual milieu. Like T.E. Lawrence before him, Orwell too was uneasy with colonialism so he left 'the service' to criticise it from the outside. Betraying it to a foreign power from the inside was beyond the pale for Orwell (& Greene). But for Philby it was part of the ‘game’. The irony is that, without Philby, Stalin would have been kept out of eastern europe in 1950s so the Americans would have gone home. But they stayed. The main reason the Americans are in Europe today is Kim Philby's unique treachery. He changed european history.
@@davidg3944 My country is the UK, and unfortunately it isn't the center of attention. If it was, news channels would be asking why RAF air bases are being used to partake in genocide. They'd be reporting on Ivor Caplin. They'd be investigating MI6's role in the Maidan massacre. They'd be asking why our government is supporting ISIS in Syria. They'd be asking why Tony Blair has never been held to account. Instead they're talking about spies who were exposed 60 years ago.
I learned about Kim Philby in the 1980-es as a student in the Soviet Union at the lectures, about "countering recruiting by foreign intelligence", which we, future engineers in electronics, had to attend, keep the very fact of having those lectures secret, and with our lecture notes not allowed to leave the lecture room... The lecturer from KGB was very proud to tell us about the spy Philby and how long he has been serving the Soviet Union. At that time, I was feeling myself anti-soviet enough to hate this British betrayer even more than the KGB lecturer. Even now, I believe, that the appearance of such types in British elites is a diagnosis of deep deficiency, probably manifested nowadays in the establishments following new megalomaniac anti-humanity projects like those of WEF, "net zero" and similar neo-totalitarian doctrine-based agendas.
V interesting . He was a dreadful traitor to Britain. I remember his entrapment.
No wonder he lasted 30 years. He must have fitted right in.
This is a warning of what is most likely happening right now. MI6 needs to look to cleaning their own house.
Nowadays, a son of KGB-general-oligarch is openly sitting in the Chamber of Lords (Lebedev) and owns the British press (The Independent, from those I know).
Fun fact Philby died in depression in Moscow and more over he aghast when he saw poverty in Moscow .
True. But I struggle to believe he didn’t know of the poverty in the USSR/ Russia before exile. I feel power and thrill were his motives with a lack of ethics. Not Ideology
Not true. Simply not.
@@w.loczykij5354 😂
He got off far too lightly.
As a titled twit said ."" He can"t be a spy ,I know his people ""
Sir Humphrey Appleby?
"The old school tie, ("cant be Kim, hes one of us")...a masterclass in deception...!!
2 days before Kim Philby fled to Russia he was observed buying 100 tubes of toothpaste......our secret service were baffled until he resurfaced in Russia and they realised too late that Russia didn't sell toothpaste at the time!!
Source ?
@@ajaysidhu471trust me bro! That's the source😂
Just imagine the entire soviet union without toothpaste, the lengths people go to delude themselves and others.
I'm also unaware of this. Pretty sure I would know. Source please.
Tooth paste appeared in the Baltic countries of the Soviet Union and probably in Moscow in the 1970s. Before that, there was a tooth powder.
The whole Cambridge spies issue is so fascinating to me. I dare say it reveals a great deal of insight into the British mindset and culture of the time. The Americans were so angry after they found out all the BS the British intelligence services were getting up to. 😂
Elliott must have tipped him off obviously and let him run. Funny how Elliot was never looked at
Didn’t they SAY they looked at him because obviously “common” people were saying he must have let him know, but they could find no evidence of such and that was the end of it?
I think the recent tv series on this inferred that he was allowed to escape.
Sounds like Philby was a psychopath.
Or just an idealist. They`re often even more dangerous than psychopaths, because they believe that what they are doing is noble and good, and those on other side of the political spectrum to be dead wrong. It`s been extracted a ton of insight on this phenomenon from the Nuremberg Trials. Most of the high ranking nazis were in fact not psychopaths, but idealists. Or simpley fanatics. That would also cover it.
he was amongst friends
Mcintyre"s book "" A spy among friends "" Well worth reading .
There are more Kim Phillby in the intelligence trust me.
Never mind intelligence, until a few months ago they were in government...
And much more in Europe secret services...
Nowadays, a son of KGB-general-oligarch is openly sitting in the Chamber of Lords (Lebedev) and owns the British press (The Independent, from those I know).
philby sounds like a narcissist.
Yep....see my above comment
Arent their Russian spies in the House of Lords that BoJo gave peerages to?
Johnson gave a peerage to Evgeny Lebedev, Russian businessman, London based owner of the Evening Standard among other interests, and notable son of KGB Agent
Traitor
Give credit where Credit is due very interesting guest I grew up through these decades of spying never really understood what was going on. Look forward to be able to get more information about the saga of the 60s 70s and even the 50s until he defected.
Even before this the Americans should of never recruited Gehlen he for one knew who were the doubles for Ukrainians over 135 agents were killed during 1949 to 1953 . The MI6 had a covert program training over 80 Ukrainians to be parachuted into Soviet Ukraine one Ukrainian double Myron Matievienko was known by Gehlen working for NKVD and Gestapo with Myron Kim Philby so through Myron the Soviets knew were to capture all of the British agents except for two that survived the last drop notified MI6 that there's a mole in British intelligence this was in 1953 . Why British intelligence didn't arrest Kim Philby alot earlier beats me .
Pity isn't for people like that.
Re-read Spycatcher
There is a very good programme I think they called it Burgess, Maclean and Philby', it was on BBC and also TH-cam. The was also a good play by 'Alan Benett' about the late Queen's picture expert 'Anthony Blunt' called 'A question of Attribution', its very good it's on google.
If only Le Carré could have seen this.
Remind of that time President Trump said,, " you think our country is so innocent?"
Lol. 🤡
I don't think you can understand Philby without reading Orwell's Road to Wigan Pier - he was part of the same intellectual milieu. Like T.E. Lawrence before him, Orwell too was uneasy with colonialism so he left 'the service' to criticise it from the outside. Betraying it to a foreign power from the inside was beyond the pale for Orwell (& Greene). But for Philby it was part of the ‘game’. The irony is that, without Philby, Stalin would have been kept out of eastern europe in 1950s so the Americans would have gone home. But they stayed. The main reason the Americans are in Europe today is Kim Philby's unique treachery. He changed european history.
The Americans wouldn't have gone home. They are the supreme colonialists.
@BeatTheSensor yeah, right! And you should change your medication.
The main reason the Americans are in Europe today is because they want to be everywhere and control everything, including Europe.
He, and the rsdst of them, backed the losing side in the end.
Sounds like Trump
Has anyone checked out Elliot?
The ‘murderous’ Russian spy... 😱😰 very on time topic...😉👎
Was it starmer?
Are we still with the Cambridge 5? Let it go, it is what it is!
No. There are lessons to be learned. Do you have something to hide ?
Haha, another day, another Russia story. Now you're digging up stuff from 60 years ago.
Why complain? After all, your country is the center of attention - isn't that what you want?
@@davidg3944 My country is the UK, and unfortunately it isn't the center of attention. If it was, news channels would be asking why RAF air bases are being used to partake in genocide. They'd be reporting on Ivor Caplin. They'd be investigating MI6's role in the Maidan massacre. They'd be asking why our government is supporting ISIS in Syria. They'd be asking why Tony Blair has never been held to account. Instead they're talking about spies who were exposed 60 years ago.
No, these files have just been released. So they are reporting on them.
Would you prefer they talk about the price of butter in Tesco?
Yes they haven't made one right call in three years of interviewing 'experts'.
@@AnotherPointOfView944It went up by about 20% between Christmas and New Year. Maybe someone should be talking about it!