Good question! I've actually only done it with maybe 3 different models, didn't really have any issues. I'm wondering if you really piled them on though they might. I'll try it out!
@@MattAzzarello Thanks.Did you play those 3 tracks simultaneously & no phasing issues? I don’t plan on piling it up .I use Logic pro.I was even considering opening up additional busses & using different models on each of the buses.But i dont think that would be necessary if your method works. I am also using a Stellar X2 - my best sounding mic (imo )- using the VMS on it! Have you experimented VMS with other mics? I am using an Apogee Duet.What preamp are you using? Sorry for too many questions!
@@bernardclifford8708 I'm actually running it straight into the Apollo Twin Preamp! I use Logic too! I actually ran the modelling and then bounced the track in place. And I really focusef on one and just blended in added mid range from another, and high end from another, subtley probably lol
Yep, it doesn't need any external power supply. As long as your interface has Phantom Power, you're good to go (and I would be shocked if it didnt lol) They do try and push their "clean preamp" but the emulations are so good regardless!
@@bassboosted-231 Yes, the mic going through their preamp, will technically gives the software the audio that the algorithms were based on. So you can use anything really, they just claim that when paired with their preamp, you will get a more accurate representation of the emulations
@@MattAzzarello thanks alot and sorry for too many questions I got last question, when I got the mic what should I do to use the virtual mix rack I saw that it need ilok 2/3 I mean how to activate it and thank again :)
I have a budget of £1,000 for a new mic what would you recommend if you could choose any for that price? I will be using it for singing. Just want to get the best option for that price. Looking for advice!
Thats a great budget for a microphone! Theres so many I haven't used its tough to say. But if I were you, I would get a Neumann and never look back😅 But if not the Slate is a great option, and they have newer/better models now as well. Telefunken have great mics as well. Try and find a way to test a couple out of you can. Or make sure you can return them if you aren't satisfied! A good preamp certainly helps as well!
I've thought about it. They definitely sound a little nicer, but you'll probably find you'll still feel the same way about each microphone. There's a few other videos I'm sure you could find those, I do appreciate you checking out the video though! Maybe I'll do one in the future
@@MattAzzarello Reason I asked the OP question is because I thought your situation represents the real deal and I found it to be one of the better video's on youtube about this mic. Yeah, I think the differences are quit subtle. My understanding is that if you put the pre-amp before the mic model you'll change the frequency response before it hits the selected mic model. I don't necessarily think it's wrong though. I mean if it works it works. Anyhow thank you for your reply I didn't expect it to be this quick.
@@MattAzzarello from what I heard the apollo's preamp is fairly clean. I recall Slate saying that the mic can be used with the apollo's preamp as well. In the end it all comes down to personal preference anyway! Anyhow thank you for sharing this video!
Yep, you don't need the VMS Hardware. They list some Interface preamps that work well, like the UA Apollo's, which is what you're hearing it through. No VMS
Slate (the manufacturer) will send you some emails to register it and download the software! There could be even more mic emulations included, since I purchased it!
Hey I have a question. It might be a dumb question lol but does this microphone work well with the UAD apollo twin x. Do I need to use their preamp emulator?
How would I connect the microphone to the apollo? Is there a specific chain because I see that the microphone comes with separate hardware and I’m not sure how to set it up. Sorry if I sound like a noob kinda new to this stuff
Hey man! What you're actually hearing, is straight into an Apollo Twin, without the Slate VMS hardware! So yes, you certainly can. I'm not using any preamp emulation either, just straight in to the Apollo, then into the Slate Software!
Ok, before I send mine back. Maybe you can explain the proper use of this mic. Because I'm guessing I have it all wrong, because it just doesn't sound great to me.
@@vontreherumaiBH Cool man, I'm not sure what I can post in a comment here. But go to one of my videos, click on my Instagram in the descriptions and hit me up there!
Hey, Matt Great video! I have two questions for you. 1. Have you tried using your Apollo Twins real-time UA preamp and compressor plugins while tracking along with the Slate ML1 mic simulations? If so what were the results and did the two interfere with each other at all? 2. In the intro to this video you showed an Avantone CV-12 so I assume you have one. How does the ML1 compare to the CV-12? Right now I use a CV-12 with an Apollo Twin and I’m curious about the ML1. Thanks!
That's actually what I upgraded from to get the slate mic! The CV 12 is a great Mic. I only sold it to be able to afford the upgrade, if I could have kept it, I would have! I haven't actually done any testing using any UAD processing before the slate emulations! But I think I've seen people do it online!
@@MattAzzarello Thanks for the reply! If you ever try out any UA pre-fader plugs-in with it please post your results! I imagine it would go Slate emulation then UA emulation. I could be wrong though since I haven't used the slate stuff.
@@musicismyllife8899 Well I can do that within the DAW which I definitely have done. But not using the unison Preamps, I usually just keep them with no emulation, then the first plugin within the DAW is the Slate emulations.
Hi, that was a great tutorial and well done. I notice that you use that plugin with Logic Pro X how did you do that? You had that Slate ML1 with all those vintage microphone to work inside Logic Pro X.. I want to buy that Slate ML1 mic with its software only if I can use the plugin to my Logic Pro X.. Let let me know. Thank You
@@MattAzzarello only reason why im on this video is because i messed around and ordered it on sweetwater lol so at least i know i got good credit.. 6 easy payments to go 😂😂😂
I realize now the Preamp Emulation is suppose to go after the Mic Emulation. No Wonder I didn't like it!😂
Also double-check the incoming level with a trimmer to make sure it's not over like -12 vu
@@samplibrarycom Very good tip as well!
HeadNorthMedia sorry had to dislike bc of error. Please redo this demo and update correct way of doing text and vmr operation :) respectfully
Im getting ready to purchase one. i hope I'm not disappointed ill be comparing it with my nlm 102 mic
Such a great Mic man! You won't be dissapointed!
So is the slate mic better than the tlm 102 for vocals?How they deal with the sibilance?I am between these two mics
Just bought this mic, idk from what people saying and from what I’m hearing at home doesn’t add up
Vontre HeruMai interesting
@@vontreherumaiBH if your room isn't a good room for recording it's not going to sound good no matter what you use
do you need ilock to get the modeling software?
Yes the license goes through the ilok
FG 269 is a good one.Was wondering how it would be to combine a couple of these mics in different track & put it all together without phasing issues !
Good question! I've actually only done it with maybe 3 different models, didn't really have any issues. I'm wondering if you really piled them on though they might. I'll try it out!
@@MattAzzarello Thanks.Did you play those 3 tracks simultaneously & no phasing issues? I don’t plan on piling it up .I use Logic pro.I was even considering opening up additional busses & using different models on each of the buses.But i dont think that would be necessary if your method works. I am also using a Stellar X2 - my best sounding mic (imo )- using the VMS on it! Have you experimented VMS with other mics? I am using an Apogee Duet.What preamp are you using? Sorry for too many questions!
@@bernardclifford8708 I'm actually running it straight into the Apollo Twin Preamp! I use Logic too!
I actually ran the modelling and then bounced the track in place. And I really focusef on one and just blended in added mid range from another, and high end from another, subtley probably lol
hey man , can my foucsright 2i2 power this mic ?
Yep, it doesn't need any external power supply. As long as your interface has Phantom Power, you're good to go (and I would be shocked if it didnt lol)
They do try and push their "clean preamp" but the emulations are so good regardless!
@@MattAzzarello so they make the system " mic and pre-amp " to just sell the product but my interface has 48v so it would give it the power it needs
@@bassboosted-231 Yes, the mic going through their preamp, will technically gives the software the audio that the algorithms were based on.
So you can use anything really, they just claim that when paired with their preamp, you will get a more accurate representation of the emulations
@@MattAzzarello thanks alot and sorry for too many questions I got last question, when I got the mic what should I do to use the virtual mix rack I saw that it need ilok 2/3 I mean how to activate it and thank again :)
You'll have to register the software to your ilok. I did it a long time ago so I can't say I remember the steps!
Audio interface?
I have a budget of £1,000 for a new mic what would you recommend if you could choose any for that price? I will be using it for singing. Just want to get the best option for that price. Looking for advice!
Thats a great budget for a microphone!
Theres so many I haven't used its tough to say. But if I were you, I would get a Neumann and never look back😅
But if not the Slate is a great option, and they have newer/better models now as well. Telefunken have great mics as well.
Try and find a way to test a couple out of you can. Or make sure you can return them if you aren't satisfied!
A good preamp certainly helps as well!
Can you do a new shootout but then with the Mic Model first and then if wanted the pre-amp?
I've thought about it. They definitely sound a little nicer, but you'll probably find you'll still feel the same way about each microphone. There's a few other videos I'm sure you could find those, I do appreciate you checking out the video though! Maybe I'll do one in the future
@@MattAzzarello Reason I asked the OP question is because I thought your situation represents the real deal and I found it to be one of the better video's on youtube about this mic.
Yeah, I think the differences are quit subtle. My understanding is that if you put the pre-amp before the mic model you'll change the frequency response before it hits the selected mic model. I don't necessarily think it's wrong though. I mean if it works it works. Anyhow thank you for your reply I didn't expect it to be this quick.
@@skaylars Honestly, that's the best attitude you can have anyway! I appreciate that a ton though man! It's a grind to say the least 👊
@@skaylars Also, this is straight into the Apollo preamps
Not even using the VMS
@@MattAzzarello from what I heard the apollo's preamp is fairly clean. I recall Slate saying that the mic can be used with the apollo's preamp as well. In the end it all comes down to personal preference anyway! Anyhow thank you for sharing this video!
Can we buy this mic solo, whithout preamp?
Yep, you don't need the VMS Hardware. They list some Interface preamps that work well, like the UA Apollo's, which is what you're hearing it through. No VMS
@@MattAzzarello where can i find that information? i need to know which interface would work with this mic.
@@lazyg4836 Its on the Slate website somewhere. Basically any clean/transparent preamp should give you good results! I'm using an Apollo
Where I can download this software, if I get this mic?
Slate (the manufacturer) will send you some emails to register it and download the software! There could be even more mic emulations included, since I purchased it!
Did you use the VMS-One preamp!? Or just the In off he Apollo!?
Just the Apollo actually, great question!
Hey I have a question. It might be a dumb question lol but does this microphone work well with the UAD apollo twin x. Do I need to use their preamp emulator?
How would I connect the microphone to the apollo? Is there a specific chain because I see that the microphone comes with separate hardware and I’m not sure how to set it up. Sorry if I sound like a noob kinda new to this stuff
Hey man! What you're actually hearing, is straight into an Apollo Twin, without the Slate VMS hardware! So yes, you certainly can.
I'm not using any preamp emulation either, just straight in to the Apollo, then into the Slate Software!
Matt Azzarello thank you I appreciate the fast response
@@zay4342 No problem dude!
What audio interface do you use un That microphone,?
I'm using a Universal Audio Apollo Twin!
Ok, before I send mine back. Maybe you can explain the proper use of this mic. Because I'm guessing I have it all wrong, because it just doesn't sound great to me.
Are you using the software that came with it?!
Yea bro me too, this mic doesn’t sound good at all
@@vontreherumaiBH That's unfortunate man! I've had some great mixes come back! I can show you some stuff on spotify. The emulations are killer!
Matt Azzarello yes please bro I wanna hear before I send this back cus right now it’s a lot that I’m not liking coming out of it
@@vontreherumaiBH Cool man, I'm not sure what I can post in a comment here. But go to one of my videos, click on my Instagram in the descriptions and hit me up there!
That FG 800 sounds amazing.
Ah it really is, I've settled on that one more than any of the other ones!
Hey, Matt Great video! I have two questions for you.
1. Have you tried using your Apollo Twins real-time UA preamp and compressor plugins while tracking along with the Slate ML1 mic simulations? If so what were the results and did the two interfere with each other at all?
2. In the intro to this video you showed an Avantone CV-12 so I assume you have one. How does the ML1 compare to the CV-12? Right now I use a CV-12 with an Apollo Twin and I’m curious about the ML1.
Thanks!
That's actually what I upgraded from to get the slate mic! The CV 12 is a great Mic. I only sold it to be able to afford the upgrade, if I could have kept it, I would have!
I haven't actually done any testing using any UAD processing before the slate emulations!
But I think I've seen people do it online!
@@MattAzzarello Thanks for the reply! If you ever try out any UA pre-fader plugs-in with it please post your results! I imagine it would go Slate emulation then UA emulation. I could be wrong though since I haven't used the slate stuff.
@@musicismyllife8899 Well I can do that within the DAW which I definitely have done.
But not using the unison Preamps, I usually just keep them with no emulation, then the first plugin within the DAW is the Slate emulations.
Hi, that was a great tutorial and well done.
I notice that you use that plugin with
Logic Pro X how did you do that?
You had that Slate ML1 with all those vintage microphone to work inside Logic Pro X..
I want to buy that Slate ML1 mic with its software only if I can use the plugin to my Logic Pro X..
Let let me know.
Thank You
Thank you so much! Ya you run it as an insert just like you would most plugins. Will definitely work with Logic!👍
Matt Azzarello
Okay thanks.
That’s a great help for me to make a decision.
@@jean-michelargentin208 Glad I could help!
Sounds warm but muddy
Lots of room to mix still!
Yooooo the FG800 sounds like like the Sony 800 lol instead of spending $10,000 you can spend $800 .. FG800 is recommended for rap vocals!
It sounds so so good man! Definitely recommend it!👌
@@MattAzzarello only reason why im on this video is because i messed around and ordered it on sweetwater lol so at least i know i got good credit.. 6 easy payments to go 😂😂😂
@@LilDos15 Bahaha worth every penny my guy! You'll actually be blown away