Pit boss Copperhead initial review and burn out
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Hi , I bought the 7 series several months back . I’ve used it 3 times . Be sure the hopper is at least half full . If you don’t , the computer on the unit will misread how full the hopper is . As a result , you’ll get an uncontrollable fire in the unit . In my case the door blew open with smoke so thick you could barely get close enough to unplug the thing ! My third attempt at using it failed as the control panel stopped functioning. It took three weeks for Pit Box to replace it . Needless to say , if I’d known the above would happen I’d never have bought this thing ! Finally , I was cautioned by one of their reps not to use a long extension as it might do a number on the all important control panel , plus there is nothing in the Manual about keeping the hopper full for safety ! I’ve replaced the panel . We’ll see what happens next 😱
After seeing this it kind of makes me wonder why there aren’t more vertical pellet grills in the world. Congrats on the cooker man
Baby Back Maniac thanks. Think all I need is a Kamado then I am done - wait did you see that lone star that Justin has- I need one of those - haha - I think we all have our addictions
Excellent, you're using this smoker in the cold winter weather! Sold!
Thank you for watching. My experience is just don’t leave pellets in it when not in use. Other than that - this is one of my favorite cookers
The close up of the auger, followed by the scene of opening and closing the garage door, and just sort of walking around the garage--is all great to watch while high.
FYI lot of people complain about the heat fluctuation problem. it's the heat sheild. either take it out and keep the water pan in or cut large opening on all 4 sides of the shield.
Just got one of my own this week - can't wait to fire it up. Thanks for all the assembly tips...good to know.
Me too.
Great tip on putting some packing material on the hopper grate.
Good honest review Louis! Looks like a really neat smoker. Can't wait to see you cook on it. 👍🏼
Smokin' Joe's Pit BBQ thank you . Keep in mind this isn’t built to be a competition vertical flow style smoker but should turn out to be a good backyard smoker so I think I will get temp. Swings as it is not as insulated as the big boys.
Boys and their toys Louis. Not sure where I’ve been but had no idea a vertical pellet smoker was out there. Pretty darn slick. You can feed an army on this thing. Can’t wait to see your cooks on this. Congrats 👍
Char Griller thanks. I knew camp chef had one but I thought it was a bit small - then I “stumbled” across a pitboss one at Lowes and went right home and googled it- saw that Wal Mart carried this one and then all that was left was convincing the wife I needed one -lol
You have to watch those copper head smokers they are notorious for the pellet hopper to catch fire, because where the auger comes into the fire pot is too low and the fire works its way through to the pallet hopper. That is why I got the series the pro series vertical. The auger is higher up in the fire pot and they don’t catch. Fire is easy just saying.
409-439 food grade Stainless is magnetic, just so you know.
Also Stainless steel Is way more susceptable to warping than mild steel.
Yes 400 series stainless steel is
I bought the Copperhead 7 about a year ago. Cabelas had it on sale for about $500. I like it a lot, but it's enormous and I really could have gotten by with the 5.
Fred Bulkley thank you for watching - I really like the size of the series 5.
Hello. I have the Copperhead 5.
I've used it a lot over the past several years. I mainly do pork ribs and brisket and some chicken.
One of the first things I did to the unit was, take a sheet of galvanized and bolt it right under the door to stop any drippings when you pull out a shelf during the cook. Otherwise, you will get drippings running over the controller below.
The probe is in the back bottom in the center. I clean it each time before a cook. It will run hotter at that probe then up at the food.
It does a good job. But I still add some chunks of hardwood on the outer edges down by the fire pit outside the metal housing covering the burn pot. It adds more smoke at the start of the cook. I clean it all out right before the next cook. I use a shop vac to clean out the inside and inside the burn pot before each cook.
Also, I always have the water tray inside the unit. I either have water in it, or, I keep it clean for every cook. Otherwise, you may get the oil and grease drippings to catch on fire. That chance happens more so if your set temp is over 250, if the water/drip pan is not cleaned before each cook.
Happy cooking
@Danny Beauclair I have had this unit that I bought from Walmart about a month and a half ago and I am kinda on the fence about it recently. I started off on the smoke for about 10 minutes and then I put the temperature where I need it which is at around 250Degrees, but it goes from 170° to 400° degrees, but it goes from 170° to 400°. Does that happen to you at all?
@@alaneiler2361 Hello.
I just did a brisket. It's resting now.
Mine set at 250 will go up and down as the new pellets go in and start to burn. But it dose not go up to 400 and then back down. It will go up to around 300 then go back down as the new pellets burn down. Do you have a separate temputure gage to to check the inside temp?
Do you have the vertical smoker?
If is going to 400 degrees before it goes back down to 250, I would call Pit Boss. You will have a toll free number on the booklet that came with the unit. It could be the temperature probe in the back of the smoker. Look in the back of the smoke or towards the bottom there's a little ledge. In the center of that ledge there's a little probe that sticks up about 1 to 2 inches. Keep it clean with a wire brush before each smoke.
For the price, I like mine. I got it at Walmart too. It does a real good brisket. I just did a 19 pound brisket several weeks ago with ribs. Good luck. You should be ok, but I'd call Pit Boss about the issue. Are you keeping the pellet hopper fairly full?
@Danny Beauclair
Hey man I really appreciate your advice! I am new to the game with electric smokers and have been grilling/smoking on the Big Green Egg & Primo ceramic grills so my issue was most likely human error. I am going to clean that out today with the wire brush but that totally makes sense why am having such a problem. Even with my issue the ribs turned out fantastic! I hope your brisket turned out great by the way!!! Thank you sir🍻
@@alaneiler2361 Hello. Happy eating. Contact any time. My brisket did not come as good. I normally inject overnight and use a rub I make up. This time I tried it without injecting and used a different rub.
But still good, just not as good. If I live (health problems), I want to do a food truck with brisket sandwiches. Hope you like the smoking.
@Danny Beauclair
Hey my fellow grill friend... I really hope you are able to fill your dream and get that food truck going!! I hope and wish nothing but the best for you to stay healthy and strong!!
Is there any quality difference in the Series 7 vs this one sold by WalMart. I know some companies make cheaper version of items that are sold at places like WalMart and Lowe’s. Was wondering if that was the case here as well.
Jarvis Outdoors the series 7 is 3 inches taller in the smoke box and has 6 adjustable shelves vs 5 in the Copperhead. The big difference is the series 7 has 2 door latches vs only 1 on the Copperhead. Other than that - they are the exact smoker. I ordered 2 door latches and a extra shelf for mine straight from Pitboss-I had to call them since they are not offered on their web site.
Thank you for watching
Apologies if I missed this but the heat controller on this unit is a full “PID” controller as opposed to the former type which merely uses a timing type mechanism.....correct? As you probably know, PID is far and away superior and is considered state of the art, hence the reason for my question.
Many thanks and enjoy
T S thank you - actually the controllers on these verticals are not the PID style that they offer on their barrel style pellet smokers. I did see a video where someone switched theirs out to a PID and I am following that to see the gains.
Louis at R shack BBQ Many thanks. Would love to know what you find out
I don't necessarily doubt that the heat shields isn't stainless, but I would like to point out that not all stainless steel is nonmagnetic. If it is cheap stainless, it is likely low in chromium and nickle, making it magnetic, but not as stain resistant. Just a hopefully helpful tip as so many "old school" methods of materials testing can fail us as more and more alloys are introduced to the consumer market.
I heard apple cider vinegar cleans the smoke and soot off pretty well. Nice smoker.
Craig Arndt thank you - I will try the cider vinegar method
@@LouisatRshackBBQ It worked okay on my new Pit Boss, but much better results when the glass was hot and in use.
howdy i see everybody calls you Louis,well very good review head to toe wit honesty.So how long before the first cookon it?Norie comfort foods I'm in Sequim,Wa
Arthur Perry thank you for watching - I love the Port Angeles area.
Thanks for the great video I've been smoking for years my old Masterbuilt is on its last leg and I'm looking to upgrade I think this might be the one. I do like all the tech stuff and having the pellets come in will be new for me. Looking forward to checking out some of your other videos thanks again
Newbie smoker here, so if this is a dumb question pardon my ignorance. I'm trying to do the initial burn out on my smoker and within 5 mins or so I get the ErH message that the smoker has overheated. I've tried vacuuming out the burnt pellets and starting again with fresh ones but I keeps happening. I start the smoker up on the SMOKE temp and then immediately move it to 350. Same error every time. Should I slowly move the temp up over time or what?
Thank you for watching. Sounds like you have a faulty controller. Once the fire in the firebox is going with flame you should be able to crank it up to whatever temp you desire and it should handle it no problem. My personal preference for starting up is to have the lid/door open and the smoke stack rain cap up to where you can slide at least 2 fingers under it. Then I turn it on the smoke setting until it has did it’s 1st cycle of heavy smoke and then went to where there was no smoke - usually about 10 minutes- then I close the lid/door and set to desired temp. Might try that and see if works but I think your controller is faulty.
@@LouisatRshackBBQ I think you're right. I cleaned the smoker out and started it again, but only turned the heat up to 200 and it worked fine. Left it there for 30 mins or so then turned it up to 250 and left it there for 15 mins. No issue at all. When I turned it up to 300, within 2 mins it had overheated again.
Can you tell me how the flavor is in comparison to your horizontal pellet feeds like your Traeger and RecTec? Debating going vertical in hopes of a deeper smoke profile. Looking at this, it's twin (Louisiana) or the Camp Chef XXL. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Now this is just my experience and opinion- there is no flavor difference between the vertical and a horizontal. All the cookers take the same amount of time. The flavor difference comes in your preferred pellet (apple, cherry, hickory and do on) and the rubs you use. The grade of meat -select-choice-Prime - determines the taste and tenderness of the cook to some extent. I prefer choice as it is not as expensive as prime and usually is pretty tender. Also keep in mind that if you really like a heavy smoke flavor- go with mesquite and I recommend a smoke tube also burning.
I prefer a pellet smoker with a PID controller as you won’t get huge temp swings but for the money the Louisiana vertical smoker is great as it holds a lot of pellets and plenty of meat. Hope that helps some in your decision
@@LouisatRshackBBQ it does help. Thank you!
I hear you brother !! I'm from Canada and I'm trying to figure out what vertical is best for me. I'm about to buy a pro series 4. comments?
Thank you for watching and commenting. I looked at the series 4 and felt like for the money the series 5 was the better buy - especially if you want to fit a full packer brisket in it- the series 4 - you probably have to separate the point from the flat.
Just picked one up today for 50 bucks. Looks brand new.
Thank you for watching- that is a really good deal - you are going to enjoy it
Is the glass door necessary? Would it not just soot over after time.....
thank you for watching and commenting. No the glass door is not necessary and yes it does ash over. I clean it about every 3 or 4 cooks just to keep it see through - personal choice.
I've had my eyes on these and really like the looks of them. They have a new one out that looks like a Whiskey still. So cool looking. Great information bro.
THEREALSHOWBBQ thanks. I saw that one and really thought the design was pretty cool. I plan on doing a couple of cooks at work and got some family get together that my Traeger just can’t handle the capacity-so that is what really sold me on this one.
The dollar amount has nothing to do with it, it's how it's controlled with the smoke and heat of vertical smokers.
I went in Walmart and they had a pallet of them had $488.00 marked on the pallet on a sign And another sign said Clearance $250.00 needless to say I grabbed one! I couldn’t bought a grill for that kind of money. Works like a dream cooks excellent. Caught smelts through the ice and removed the racks ran stainless wire through through them and string them up were the rack sit. Come out great!!
Patric Brophy thank you for watching - I tried to get price match deal my local Walmart but they were not having it - would love to have found it on sale like a lot of ppl did.
You still suppose to prime it one you put the pellets in it.
I purchase the pitboss Memphis ultimate. I love it. Omg it was way to heavy for me to move about 250 pounds. My Weber was 15 years old. Now I have 4 grills on one.
Hey Louis! Congrats on the new Pit! I see you've done your research. Research to the point of being frustrated with these manufactures. I hear you......why can't they keep their specifications straight? I really like the vertical design and that hopper is Huge! Have You set up your Traeger for open flame grilling yet? I just about had forgotten my Traeger until I started using it open flame. It was a whole new way to grill! The Pit Boss is a little low for that......but it's a plus when it comes to hanging. Of coarse I want one now! :-)
I really like the Pit Boss Pellets. Good enough for me ......and they are cheap! I'll be watching to see how it cooks for you.......Smoke On!
Heavy Metal Bar-B-Que thank you Ken. I even emailed pitboss a few times with questions before buying but never got any response. I got the competition blend pitboss pellets - I generally buy Traeger brand.
Great honest review! You touched the igniting rod...something I might do hahah. gonna get one of these!
Thank you for watching - yeah I recommend not touching it - but then again my mother told me not to touch the stove - but yet I did - haha
You're supposed to add pellets before the initial priming/burn--in stage begins. I bought one of these around Christmas for only $225. Great smoker.
Zippydaclown thank you for watching
I have a Louisiana grill it looks the same as a pit boss they work great love it so much I bought two
Marc Overley thank you for watching. Yes Pitboss and Louisiana grills are both sister companies of Danson - so they are exactly the same other than the color and name badge.
do you have large temp swings on the pit boss
I do get big swings - I have installed a new controller (not the Pitboss brand) and going to change out controller again as still having issues. Other than that I love this vertical style smoker
can this be stored outdoors, or will the unused pellets swell?
No you need to keep it in a garage or shed. You also have to dump all the pellets after use and empty tray, store pellets indoors if you live in a humid climate or midwest. Pellets will swell if left outside.
Thank you for watching. I store mine outside either in a carport or my patio that has a roof. I highly recommend dumping the pellets out as they will draw and absorb moisture - if you do not use it at least once a week.
Good lookin rig Louis. Anxious to see your first cook. Rub a little snow on that burn buddy lol. 🍻
GT’s Barbeque thanks Gary- haha I did . Think I will run a rack through it this week.
I have one if these, bought from Lowe's a couple of months ago. I run my temp probe wires down through the grease hole. never had any issue.
Belle Rose thank you -I will give this a try
Very good review. You have my approval. Seems like a pretty nice piece of equipment
MeatCranium BBQ AND REVIEW thank you - I have heard good things about pitboss pellet smokers so I hope this is as good as them.
How much is this? It’s identical to the Costco Louisiana smoker for $400
I got my 5 series for $396 at Walmart. Same price as the Lowe’s version which is a 4 series. Yes their web site is a mess when it comes to information.
Thank you for watching. I really do think that the Cooperhead is a great value for the price. Just play with it and learn how yours wants to run and adjust your cooks to it and you will be good
Very Nice..! I've never own a unit like this but if I was in the market I would prob buy this. Thx for sharing
Joe's BBQ House thanks . I would say definitely check out pitboss web site and go look at them so you get a idea of the size of the cook area. I really like the size of this one- perfect for backyard cooks .
Is there always smoke? or is there a setting like on the bradley where you can turn off the smoke?
Steven Mucker thank you for watching- unfortunately there is no setting to shut off the smoke but once it reaches its set temp- there will be less smoke as it is just adding pellets to maintain rather than smoke.
Do you ever have any issues with the ER[X] error codes numerous reviewers report?
Thank you for watching. I do get a ErL alarm but I think it was because I didnt use water in the provided water pan. I had one other alarm and that was because I hadn’t used the smoker for a couple of months and the auger jammed up since the pellets fused together - so keep it cleaned out when not in use.
Ordered a Pit 5 last evening; ETA is Jan 10th. Living in the Cdn maritimes I will empty the hopper after each use to avoid swelling pellets from humidity. Appreciate your direct to the point approach!
Looks really nice.
Wish we had some pellet cookers available here. So far its traeger only...
Lasse's Food and Barbecue thanks. Hopefully soon you will get more options. I love my Traeger but think there are better options when it comes to cost these days.
Pit Boss prob has people in other countries inputing the data on the website. Can't get anything correct.
Thank you for watching- sorry to hear about all the problems- I know they have changed their controllers on the newer models.
Nice review Louis! Congrats on the new smoker!
Tom Horsman thank you Tom. Might have to hit you up now that I saw you switch out the controller on your mini camp chef. I have questions -haha
Louis at R shack BBQ Anytime Louis!
Good review Louis.
I didn't know these cost that much. Looks like a good product. Get those ribs fired up bud!
BBQ PIT DOG thanks Rob. My coworkers are already planning our 1st rib fest.
do this creates a lot of smoke to give food flavor
Thank you for watching. My opinion is it does produce enough smoke - just buy a good brand of pellets- I do use pit boss pellets but I prefer lumberjack. I also bought a smoke tube and have used it for added smoke.
thanks appreciate your advice
Works well in the cold?!
Have you tried it in the cold weather? And while its snowy out? I was told they are bulit for cold so you dont have to worry about snow hitting it. Is that true?
I have used this in the cold and it seems to do fine. I have it under a covered cook area so I can not comment about how it would do with snow falling on it other than the hopper has like a water gutter at the hinge area and all the electrical components are on the very bottom
Is this the one that is 396$ now?
Thank you for watching- more than likely- it is the Pitboss that is marketed and sold at Walmart
Does screwing the head up or down affect how much smoke the smoker let's out or holds?
Adjusting the chimney will increase or decrease the air flow. More air flow will vent the smoke more quickly, the effect is less smoke inside around your food. Less air flow will trap more smoke and hold more heat near the top. There is a balance between smoke and heat separate from the temp dial.
What can I use in my pit boss vertical pro series to hag meat?
Larhonda Donley thank you for watching- check out this video on what I did to make mine a hanger th-cam.com/video/Ui_msZxqFas/w-d-xo.html
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IN FOR THE GRILL thanks Scott.. they are a nice smoker
Is this is series 3 smoker ?
Thank you for watching- this is the same size as a series 5 - just marketed through Walmart so it does not say it on the glass as you would see on Pitboss website
Louis at R shack BBQ
Oh ok thank you and nice review 👍🏽
How do you clean the ashes out?
Thank you for watching . I use a shop vacuum to clean out the ashes . I actually just did a impromptu video on how I clean my pellet grills . Here is the link th-cam.com/video/9G9cVRPwdso/w-d-xo.html
25 second into is WAY too long
Thank you for watching. I agree - please watch my most recent video where I have a better intro. Hope you enjoyed there rest of the video though
What a waste of 16 minutes. Boring as hell. Putting out absolutely zero useful information. Definitely a must NOT see.
Thank you for watching ,,, well you must of liked something because the video is 16 minutes 42 seconds long. If you really want to see true garbage- check out my video on why I went with a rec Tec over Treager- now that’s a true train wreck.
Pit Boss makes them for Lowe's under a different name they also make the ones for a Cabela under a different name.
What are the names of the smokers?
They are still Pit Boss but the color is different and they are labeled Pro Series not Copperhead. Other than color (Pro Series is a little darker) the racks are removable but you can’t adjust their height like you can with the copperhead model. The rest of the unit is the same (size numbering is the same too 4-5) temperature control, auger, is the same.
@@maxwellmark if you look at them in person, the Proseries at Lowes is significantly smaller. The shelves are shallower. something like 1300Sq in versus 1600