Not comparable. -Zidane was playing his last game with the France team and it was the final -The score was 1-1, there were lots of tension between the 2 teams -Materazzi consistently insulted him during the match, Zidane held himself for some time but eventually exploded -Zero offense from the Welsh team and specifically from the victim of that elbow -France was leading and superior than the Welsh team, no tension -Vahamahinna's elbow was 100% dumb and the red card well deserved
Imagine dominating Wales like that and throwing it away because you wanted to elbow someone in the face. The french team minus one player deserved that win. What a shame.
@@isitwasit8756 Against a 14 men side? And with a questionable try? Had respect for Wales, but seing the reactions from their fans, you are on par with English ones. Gatland seems to be the only one opening his eyes.
GateCrasher dood I’m not saying Wales shouldn’t be in semis they won that’s the game. I’m just answering this guy that’s thinks they deserved to win and that france played their best when they had a huge disadvantage
I am French and a little sad. However seeing wales for the semi-finals is logical, it's a normal reward for this generation. I will support all teams of 6 nations for the rest of this World Cup.Long live rugby!
Don't be sad, the French are one of the top teams in the world. NZ just lost to the English and as a 4th gen kiwi I can say rugby has been the winner of this tournament. Let sports bring us together
I think France should have won.. Your team was superior.. Sebastien's abssence was determining. No doubt, he's a great player. A real pity the mistake he comitted
Stupid mistakes cost teams games and that played made a huge mistake that cost his team the match. The ref made the right call on the red card. Intentional contact with the head = red card. Plain and simple.
@@howdoiunbakeacake1525 Went to the TMO. Not clear that the ball went forward. What it does in the air has nothing to do with the direction out of the hands. Therefore try stands and is fair. Where France fucked up was when they had another put in to the scrum and did not bother to use a backline player to join on the side (especially this one so close to the line) and no 8th man. That was just criminally stupid. Also, I agree with the ITV studio guys who basically said that (and I am paraphrasing here) the red card guy needn't have bothered apologising to his team mates, he should just leave the field, the stadium and keep walking. Intentional move, clearly looked to see if the ref was watching before doing it. At this level of rugby, that was always going to cost his team.
As often, France worst enemy was France. Forget Wales, there is nothing to say about their match, even Gatland honestly recognized that "the best team lost" Even if I'm gutted by the result, Vahaaminha stupidity and some odd "I love to pose with welsh fans" Jaco Peyper decisions, I'm pretty sure this young and talented France will be ready and mature in 2023.
And when Shaun Edwards goes over to France, they will 100% be a stronger team. I believe the 'which French side will show up' curse will be lifted. With that said, we can't lose sight of some wider context here. The extra week off, the previous games over the year not being this bad for Wales, and the fact that this was one of Frances strongest performances this year. This one game should not be the defining moment people jump on the Wales hate wagon.
@@Lemmywinks1989 Thing is every game between France and Wales have been looking like this one for the past few years. With the Welsh always having luck on their side though they are utterly dominated.
I can imagine he'd either have very colourful words for Vahaamina (I know it's not how you spell it) or give him a hard slap for that. Singlehandedly ruined France's game.
Considering the performances of this generation, I was expecting Wales to crush us easily. So not so disapointed by the result. France has still a long way before recovering his 2000s performances.
You can say that for everybody and everything : if they played better they could have win, if they run faster, if they didn't miss penalties, if they choose to take the three and don't try to score another try etc.... Don't think with if! Because we can also say if the Welsh didn't score the try or miss the penalties they could have loose. It's endless.
Thanks. As a Cymraeg woman living in Ecuador, i truly appreciated you bringing. this.We Cymraeg live all over the world, so please, keep bringing us the updates on Wales.
If I was French I would be calling for him to never put on a French rugby shirt again. That was absolutely childish and pathetic for him to do that in a French maul that was going forward and going for another try that couldve put the game to bed for France.
@@xxwales15xx33 it doesn't count as forward if it's ripped, true, but only from the ball carrier perspective. Law 11, Rule 5.b : "The ball is not knocked-on, and play continues, if : [...] A player rips or knocks the ball from an opponent and the ball goes forward from the opponent’s hand or arm."
Contre ce ... de Sébastien ?.. Tu t’intéresses au rugby depuis hier ? Tu retiens que ça de lui ?.. Moi j’ai la haine contre Laporte qui a réussi à rendre l’équipe de France encore plus moribonde qu’elle ne l’était déjà...
Yeah I'm quite shocked..as a neutral fan. They missed both a try as well as a penalty..I think rather than the red card these two missed opportunities made huge impact and it shocked me a bit.
Daiviking, you're totally right. Re-doing the match afterwards is pointless anyway. The truth is simple : France played brillantly and lost stupidly by a lack of discipline. For information, barbie turique agrees with you as well.
Bertrand GEORGEON thanks mate, it wouldn’t let me copy paste to google translate, so I didn’t know if he agreed. It’s a common thing in the modern rugby era, if you get put down to 14 men you will concede, just like SA 🇯🇵 japan
Issou Quintero He used to play rugby for Wales... Eddie Butler a Welsh speaking rugby player! Good person, loves the French way of things/life and learned to speak french. Very good commentator. Im super Welsh, but I will say that the red card person made it much easier for us to win, thankyou lol!
Vahaamahina coute tout le match : 1er essai gallois il regarde le 6 passer sans même essayer de courir alors qu'en accélérant à peine un peu il l'aurait plaqué sans problème. Ensuite il plaque haut, une pénalité. Et puis le carton rouge.. ça m'étonnerait qu'il revienne en EDF.. il coute 10 points et laisse ses coéquipiers à 14. Sinon le reste de l'équipe très bien, Man of the match Vakatawa
Vahaamahina passe complètement à côté de son match hormis l essai cela arrive même en quart Par contre cet arbitre dont l incompétence n est plus à prouver n a strictement rien à faire en phase finale de coupe du monde il n à pas été capable d arbitrer pleinement un seul des matchs de ce tournois ses notes sont catastrophique et pourtant il est toujours là L arbitrage de cette coupe du monde est dans l ensemble décevant peu d arbitre sorte la tête de l eau vraiment étrange surtout avec les moyens actuels....à suivre
@@mounolivemounolive8064 Oui j'suis daccord pour l'arbitrage pour l'essai gallois il y'avait clairement en avant.. mais en général dans cette coupe du monde oui, bcp de choix incohérents, un match on siffle une certaine faute, un autre cette même faute n'est pas sifflée.. compliqué tout ça
@@paulthiebaut Non si il y'a arrachage de ballon le joueur en possession du ballon ( ollivon là) ne peut pas faire d'en avant, par contre si le défenseur (davies je crois) fait partir le ballon vers l'avant pendant l'arrachage alors y'a en avant, et ce qui aurait donc du etre sifflé
Away « Il n’y a pas en avant si un joueur arrache ou tape le ballon des bras ou des mains d’un adversaire et que le ballon quitte les mains du porteur vers l’avant » Ce qui est le cas donc y’a rien à siffler.
I think this shows how much Wales miss Jonathan Davies in that 13 channel, the French outside centre made breaks all game, breaks that someone like Jonathan Davies simply wouldn’t have allowed
We underestimated them and France had all the motivation needed to put in a huge performance, since we're in the same position as France now against the Springboks I hope we can pull off a big performance
@@xxwales15xx33 the boks are on a whole new level , wales can't conceive to win, it's a team that barely held it togheter ... against france! sorry but it will be a clear win by the boks!
@@xxwales15xx33 yes , anything can haeppen , wales is a great team , but they don't seem to be able to match in physicality and also team depth.it's just a prediction of mine based on what i have seen till now.
@@vadergrd we've played and beaten the most phsyical teams in the competition and we have depth in our team, its just that we came off a tough game while France had an extra week off and looked far fresher. Much rather play the springboks compared to England and or NZ since they dont posses the attacking threat like the other teams we faced
I love the welsh but the French were pushing so far by just smashing in. Not even bothering to use sets. Like an unusual distance. Lucky they got that advantage
the ball goes forward , paralelism is kept in space no matter of the perspective (think try line) , but he rips the ball from the arm of the opponent so it cannot be a knock on!
With all the consideration I have for this man, Vamahina disrespects all rugby players who would have liked to be in his place on, like all the hand mistakes and high-tackles he mades, is symptomatic of a lack of lucidity and professionalism. It's the first man to have a red card in the French team threw all the WC. What a bad image he gives to this beautifull sport. Hopes he will asks for apologies to the 6.
He was provoked, in English and French, by Welsh players all the first half and the Referee did not say a world. Verbal continuous provocation is the best skill of British ruby union. french players are not always cool
Part of it. Fairplay is a joke, especially with british nations. Even at low level sport, there are already people trying to make you break a fuse by harassing you. It's pretty well known that Vamaahina can lose it easily.
French players as far it is known, did not verbally provoke the Welsh, partly because if they had done it,, the Referee would have stopped them at once. When Wales , Ireland or England meet France ( or other teams as well) there is a continuous provocative chatter that is permitted to continue from the start to the end. I remark that Referees do not permit to answer. When there are not provocations , it is because adversaries' language is too difficult! This s not a secret. Of course, the best answer to provocations is to mark tries but Vamahina is not an ice-cold character and he overreacted. We must admit that Anglo Saxon layers are often more cool minded
Wales don't always play well, but they still manage to win games, so that for me is a positive. So much hate around Wales and I really don't get all of it (yes, some Welsh people are utterly annoying/ignorant). We have a population of only 3 million and manage to compete against countries like England with a population of 55 million. The lack of context in the hatred towards us astounds me.
@@jamesmcgowan8709 Not quoting it to make a point other than set context. I am not suggesting that having a small population some how makes us virtuous or deserving of more respect, I am simply saying the way people really strongly hate on wales for being a bit rubbish at times is harsh, considering countries like Fiji, Japan, Samoa, Ireland, Scotland don;t receive the same treatment.
France have improved and will continue to do so. With Dupont, Ntamack, Pennaud etc they will be very strong in 4 years time. But if a player loses his discipline and does something as stupid and dangerous as that, they deserve the consequences. Hard to take for the fans. Wales need to take it up a few gears to challenge a strong Springbok side but they are capable.
That last try knocked the stuffing out of France - watching it live, I wasn't entirely convinced our boys had won it with that try until I saw possession change back to us with a kick which went over the dead ball line. The French players looked completely shot.
Ken Owens made 19 tackles in this match one of his best performances for Wales. Wyn Jones put in a very good shift as well. These boys will play against the Bokkes and they will love it!!!
Vahaamahina a toujours eu une sale mentalité. Son geste indigne d'un joueur professionnel est effectué avec du sang froid et donc encore plus inadmissible...
Franchement, disjoncté comme cela en quart du mondial c'est inadmissible. Il aurait pu pèter la mâchoire du joueur gallois qui fort heureusement comme le règlement l'oblige avait son protége dents. Vahaa nous fait perdre le match.
I love the way when the players get carded they walk off not much fuss. Respectful. If only footballers did so. Also the way we can hear everything the ref is saying. That would be good if we could hear that in football, it would make sense cuz the ref would have to explain his decisions.
I want to notice : behave player after he get a red card - no discusting, he knowes he hit with an elbow and he accept this. wow. and this was a quarter-final of WC ! Amazing.
Piotr S: this is normal behaviour in rugby; Union or League. Referees' decisions are respected - even if they are sometimes wrong. No falling over just because they have been touched, no running after the referee crying for a foul. Real men in a real sport.
The better team didn't advance, how the ball was not called as going forward? Credit to France for almost winning the match and good luck to Wales you're going to need to step up your game
The better team did advance just not the better team on the day, France are like one win and 8 losses in their last 9 now against Wales. I agree France were the better team yesterday but they definitely aren't the better team in general if that makes sense.
It wasn't clearly forward. It is irrelevant what the ball does in the air after the strip. What is important is which way did it come out of his hands. On the replay you cannot say that it went forward with certainty therefore as the on field decision was a try, it stands. Laws of the game are difficult to interpret sometimes so It is understandable that some people may be confused.
@@sportspundit7171 actually it is relevant which way the ball travels, they changed the laws about 2 years ago. And the ball did clearly travel forward.
@@6jackace I agree with you. French played the better rugby but all that matters in knockout rugby is getting result. A win is a win. Due to the stupidity of one of the French players, the whole team had to face the repercussions of his actions. I am confident Wales will step up against SA.
Totally agree that the ball went forward. It's not by much, and the camera angle makes it look worse, but if you use the 5m line as a reference you can see it, although I can understand why the refs didn't think it was clear and obvious.
Sérieux les bleus nous ont surpris. Un match quasi parfait dans l'organisation et la tactique, et ce physique qu'on craignait tant, qui tient 80mn dont presque 40mn à 14. Mais à ce niveau, on ne peut pas se permettre de gâcher autant de possibilités de scorer, soit par des coups de pieds foireux, soit par des ballons tombés. Le match très moyen, voir miraculeux, des gallois est vraiment du à la pression française, et au danger permanent que nos arrières leur ont fait courir aux quatre coins du terrain. Donc je pense qu'on verra de meilleurs rouges en demi face aux boks.
C'était presque notre équipe type, Lauret à remplacer par Macalou, Guirado désormais retraité à remplacer par Marchand et Huget par Thomas, et Slimani par je ne sais qui.
@@etoiledesneiges3999 Oui mais il n'a pas en odeur de sainteté au niveau des rencontres internationales, il est automatiquement ciblé par les arbitres, pas facile pour lui.
@@etoiledesneiges3999 Les arrières de classe internationale ne se bousculent pas au portillon. Mais on va bien trouver quelqu'un. Avoir 30 à 35 gars compétitifs contre les meilleures nations suffit après tout.
If they deserved it, they would have won it. France lost it themselves even without the red, those 2 easy missed kicks cost them. France played better overall but a loss is still a loss even with them doing everything in their power to kill the clock
@@kimok4716 what relevance does fair have? Once the whistle is blown that's it you win or you lose of course its fair aslong as its within the laws of the game who would still be dwelling on something from 8 years ago? It's utterly childish just enjoy the game
Gd welsh players well done lads we know u lost the last 30 seconds but by God u played bloody well take my hat off to u it was a hard game but u played it well be proud off yourselfs we are proud off u know lets see south Africa play against England cause I don't think England will will beat them I think south Africa will win the world cup 👍♥️♥️
The red card did so much damage to France, but they took wrong decisions at crucial moments before it and after it so the whole team is to blame, they don't have the right to point fingers at Vahaamahina. Wales were even lucky with the winning try awarded after the review, it's obvious the ball went forward.
ThePulmentinum I've wrote somewhere that I'm not Welsh but I've seen Wales scrape through a lot of matches and Dan Biggar converting everything..even in the last world cup and I find Wales quite exciting for these two weird reasons. Don't know how Dan Biggar does that..his conversions in the last World cup made me a rugby fan as well a fan of Wales.
Wales will need a different kind of performance to challange springboks ... They were lucky because the mistakes of ntamack and red card put the match on another track. The merit of Wales was to always remain attached to the score of France.
Saverio Fontana yeah completely agree that try at the end was correct decision never went forward and we need to go up several gears now South Africa play similar to us lot of kicking and forwards trucking it up we should be better at playing that sort of game
Always annoying to watch the weakest team winning, but that's the law of rugby: Score or die. I'm not worried these results will soon smile to France in future world cups. There is nothing to say about Wales, as "nothing" is the word to describe their performance.
Djezon nothing wat u mean topping our pool and then beating France who were the better team yeah nothing is the word to describe it salty much 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂
If us English and our dear friends Welsh if we meet up against each other in this RWC 2019. I still want Mr. Nigel Owens MBE, to referee. He is a Genius and would never take sides. May the best side win. Good luck to England. Good luck to Wales.
Just saw it now. @8:20 Tomo Williams is in offside position in front of Dupont. More than the forward pass on the riping, it should have been a penalty for France.
Before the put-in, the defending team's scrum-half must be on his team's side of the middle line. Williams takes a step over the middle line as the ball was released; I would call that aggressive but not offside. After the put-in the defending team's scrum-half only needs to remain on his team's side of the ball. Serin (not Dupont) puts the ball in toward his team's side (illegally, although everyone does it to an extent). Serin is thus immediately offside, as he must have at least one foot behind the ball. Williams has smartly advanced with the ball and is onside. Serin has no choice but to go around Williams to get back onside himself, which he does. There is no issue whatsoever with Williams being "in front of" Serin. As soon as the Number 8 picks up the ball the scrum is over, and Williams is free to pounce. Ollivon may or may not have known Williams was standing over him, but had Ollivon not ended the scrum it would have been a penalty to Wales; Chat's head has come up before the French scrum collapses. The scrum over, Williams rips the ball from the far larger Ollivon (before being blatantly fouled by Serin, but it turned out not to matter). All in all, superb scrummaging by Wales, including Williams.
@glyn hodges Agreed! According to the laws the put-in must be straight and the scrum is a contest for the ball, which is more or less how it worked in my day (in 20th century Canada). The attacking side had the advantage only of timing and whatever angle and/or spin you could get away with, which was generally enough although a good hooker/strong pack could steal a ball now and then. Nowadays the scrum is basically a fight for penalties because ball is fed directly to the attacking team. I don't like it, but if that is acceptable, change the laws! Why can that rule be ignored but the rule that the line-out be straight(-ish) is still enforced?
@glyn hodges And yes, massive effort at the end by Wales, so exciting to see the French scrum start to buckle. But as a former second row I really felt for the French pack, playing a man down for so long. Massive effort from them as well after Vahaamahina let them down.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx It was a nice and lyric paragraph to deform the reality and suits your narrative. Fortunately for rugby, Wales was brought back to reality (the real one) by an average but brutal Springboks side. I guess that's what sometimes happen when the weakest team takes the place of the strongest, dixit Gatland.
@@zisssssou Say what you like. If 9s are going to put the ball straight back, the opposing 9 should take full advantage. I applaud the aggressive play. France could have won that game, but it was hardly stolen from them, they threw it away.
I don't know who makes these,but this is not "Extended Highlights".This is just Highlights.There was so much that you could include e.g. Vakatawa crash ball that made Biggar fly.
Even though Ross Moriarty didn't like the yellow card, he respected the refs decision. It's this respect of the ref that I love about rugby, cos any of these players could really injure the ref, but the respect for the ref is taught to 5yr old players
Some say based on that performance SA have nothing to fear. Thing is they were playing France and the game was yesterday. They play SA on Sunday things will be different for both teams. Likewise some say that England must raise their game considerably to beat NZ. Again, another day and another competition. The Boks must hope for an AB win, cause if England beat NZ I wouldn’t want to be between Wales and a final against England.
Déçu oui et non!! 1) je la sentais pas top la rencontre contre les gallois !! Match serré, mais perdu 2) on a retrouvé un peu l’equipe de France qui nous faisait rêver !! Bonne défense, discipline, french flair !! On se retrouve au 6 nations !!
Moins de fautes de mains c'est vrai et plus de créativité et d'envie, mais quelle déception a la fin du match...bonne chance aux gallois pour la suite et on se retrouve aux 6 nations oui!
You'll be back. Keep the flair but deal with the indiscipline and you can beat anyone. The first half was the finest French play I've seen in ten years...ruined by one idiot. As for Wales....Yma O Hyd!
As a South African, I'm diplomatically optimistic that the Boks should be able to beat Wales in the 2019 semi finals. Wales really struggled against a 14 man disrupted French team which should be a concern for them tbh, and they also haven't managed to beat SA in a WC ever. SA has also shown good improvement the last 2 years especially by disallowing the All Blacks a win in NZ vs the Boks, so many positives tbh. Time will tell lol.
Une situation un peu chaotique, mais je ne vois pas de pénalité. Avant de commencer à jouer la mêlée, le demi de mêlée qui n’introduit pas le ballon doit se placer du côté de son équipe par rapport à la ligne médiane, à proximité du demi de mêlée adverse. Le 9 Gallois était légèrement hors-jeu à l'introduction du ballon, mais sans conséquence réel. Une fois la mêlée commencée, le demi de mêlée de l’équipe qui n’est pas en possession du ballon doit avoir les deux pieds derrière le ballon et près de la mêlée mais pas dans l’espace entre le troisième ligne aile et le numéro 8. Le 9 gallois semblait être derrière le ballon en tout moment. La mêlée ordonnée prend fin lorsque le numéro huit ramasse le ballon dans les pieds d’un joueur de deuxième ligne. Le ballon était déjà ramassé avant que le 9 gallois fasse son attaque. Du jeu très agressif, certes, mais du très bon jeu.
@@martinriou4397 Je suis un ancien joueur de deuxième rang et j'ai encore de la misère à suivre les changements aux règles... En passant, mon coach préféré était un immense Breton, toujours des blagues et chansons mais un gars dur comme fer.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx Si vous avez du mal à suivre les règles en étant professionnel, imaginez le simple spectateur perdu dans les méandres de cette réglementation qui n'en finit pas d'alourdir la compréhension et la fluidité de ce jeu. Je crois que même les arbitres ont des avis partagés sur une même phase de jeu. Je ne connais aucun sport avec un règlement aussi complexe et alambiqué.
Lot of debate about the rip that lead to the try. I just don’t agree that the ripper’s hand is the last point of contact with the ball myself. In a rip the ball always ramps off the arm of the player it’s being ripped from. But even if that were a consideration I still think the try was good as it seemed flat level with Davies. Anyway, we win to lose another day. Which is Saturday if we play the same as last Saturday. Buckle up boyos!
100% agree. This French team were galvanized by that Red card and we had a poor attacking game. The better side lost, no doubt. However, you need a bit of luck in these type of competitions, so I really hope they can put in a respectable performance against SA.
Played poor yet still overcame best French performance of WC so far.. says everything about mental strength and belief of Welsh squad which will serve them well in semis
@@lloydc1092 just rechecked and no the ball wasn't out. Rose tinted. If that kind of play is allowed then you've got a mess at every scrum. Was a good shove though and of course the French only have themselves to blame.
As the ball goes in, the Welsh scrum half must be on his side of the centre line, then, as the ball moves backwards he can’t stand in between Flanker and 8 waiting for the ball. He broke both of those laws. The ball wasn’t out until the French substitute number 8 stood up.
Great game. France definitely upped their game and had the edge on Wales. Stupid elbow probably cost them the victory. But I think France are lucky not to have played England. It would not have been close.
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That elbow was brutal. Vahamahinna totally deserved the red card.
I watched that and I said he caused them the chance of the title, completely unnecessary to do that, a well deserved red card
What to make of Biggar and especially Liam Williams' "tackles" on N'Tamack and Dupont from 02:07
good tackles @@pierre4322
7:28 he made france lose
@@yonggeun4222they were most likely going to score a try and most likely tie up the game but instead they lost a player
Zidane's head in 2006 and now Vahamahinna's elbow in 2019
Lors de la coupe du monde 2006, il était INTERDIT de visionner la vidéo, ce qu'a fait le quatrième arbitre ! Zidane a été expulsé à tort
Not comparable.
-Zidane was playing his last game with the France team and it was the final
-The score was 1-1, there were lots of tension between the 2 teams
-Materazzi consistently insulted him during the match, Zidane held himself for some time but eventually exploded
-Zero offense from the Welsh team and specifically from the victim of that elbow
-France was leading and superior than the Welsh team, no tension
-Vahamahinna's elbow was 100% dumb and the red card well deserved
i know right
@@DzeKajolMania They are comparable in that if they didn't act like selfish pricks France would have won.
Yes he is well known in the Top 14 french championship to lose nerves very quickly...
The pure definition of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
Imagine dominating Wales like that and throwing it away because you wanted to elbow someone in the face. The french team minus one player deserved that win. What a shame.
Imagine playing below par and still winning against the best performance France have produced this WC
@@isitwasit8756 Against a 14 men side? And with a questionable try? Had respect for Wales, but seing the reactions from their fans, you are on par with English ones. Gatland seems to be the only one opening his eyes.
is it ? was it ? Lol dude not France’s best performance you guys struggled to get a try while they were one player down...
@@paulthiebaut Wales in the semis, France ain't. That's all that counts, just like 2011 when it was the other way around
GateCrasher dood I’m not saying Wales shouldn’t be in semis they won that’s the game. I’m just answering this guy that’s thinks they deserved to win and that france played their best when they had a huge disadvantage
One of the all time legendary throws, it was gonna be a relatively close game but France were most likely to win until the elbows came out
I am French and a little sad. However seeing wales for the semi-finals is logical, it's a normal reward for this generation. I will support all teams of 6 nations for the rest of this World Cup.Long live rugby!
Their generation is outstanding but the way they played in this game shouldn't have brought them to the semis.
Don't be sad, the French are one of the top teams in the world. NZ just lost to the English and as a 4th gen kiwi I can say rugby has been the winner of this tournament. Let sports bring us together
@@sirfer6969 indeed
I think France should have won.. Your team was superior.. Sebastien's abssence was determining. No doubt, he's a great player. A real pity the mistake he comitted
@chris bel it’s gone full circle now, France is going to win the six nations!
Dumb red card. Cost his country with that.
Billie Eilish's Lips BULLSHIT. They did good when he left. France got robbed. That was forward. Any day of the week
Yeah was a meathead
Stupid mistakes cost teams games and that played made a huge mistake that cost his team the match. The ref made the right call on the red card. Intentional contact with the head = red card. Plain and simple.
@@howdoiunbakeacake1525 Went to the TMO. Not clear that the ball went forward. What it does in the air has nothing to do with the direction out of the hands. Therefore try stands and is fair. Where France fucked up was when they had another put in to the scrum and did not bother to use a backline player to join on the side (especially this one so close to the line) and no 8th man. That was just criminally stupid.
Also, I agree with the ITV studio guys who basically said that (and I am paraphrasing here) the red card guy needn't have bothered apologising to his team mates, he should just leave the field, the stadium and keep walking. Intentional move, clearly looked to see if the ref was watching before doing it. At this level of rugby, that was always going to cost his team.
I can understand some last ditch dumb decisions but that elbow was so unnecessary, the level of unprofessionalism was unreal on a stage like this.
France beaten by France once again^^
rip
It's lie
The biggest enemy of France is France ! We are so good and stupid at the same time
haha
oh yes!
And once again yesterday. France have a real problem with discipline.
That was the most French game ever, even more so than Wales v France in the six nations.
Don’t understand this sport to much but I like watching it wish we had it mainstream over here in the states
Jordan Walters honestly, if the USA got hugely into rugby, they’d be a force to be reckoned with. Unfortunately all their talent is drawn to the NFL
As often, France worst enemy was France.
Forget Wales, there is nothing to say about their match, even Gatland honestly recognized that "the best team lost"
Even if I'm gutted by the result, Vahaaminha stupidity and some odd "I love to pose with welsh fans" Jaco Peyper decisions, I'm pretty sure this young and talented France will be ready and mature in 2023.
And when Shaun Edwards goes over to France, they will 100% be a stronger team. I believe the 'which French side will show up' curse will be lifted. With that said, we can't lose sight of some wider context here. The extra week off, the previous games over the year not being this bad for Wales, and the fact that this was one of Frances strongest performances this year. This one game should not be the defining moment people jump on the Wales hate wagon.
@@Lemmywinks1989
Thing is every game between France and Wales have been looking like this one for the past few years. With the Welsh always having luck on their side though they are utterly dominated.
@@kimok4716 true, the last few wins have not been convincing at all.
@@Lemmywinks1989
2016 is the last time a game between the two sides was won by wales just because of their talent.
9:54 look at the ball boy
Hes thinking dont kick my ball like that
I think he is thinking "I hope I am not next"
Hahaha, the way he even held on tighter to the one in his hands after witnessing that kick.
7:08 Lauret "Qu'est ce que tu faiiiis!?" (what are you dooing)
Well spotted, and he's right, WTF was he doing?!
ahah bien vu ! Quelle connerie... hallucinant :/
Well spotted mate. Easy to lip read and that was even before the actual hit. Sad it happened, spoilt a great game.
Voilà pourquoi derrière les discours de façade "on lui en veut pas" je pense que ça a dû s'expliquer un brin quand même
I can imagine he'd either have very colourful words for Vahaamina (I know it's not how you spell it) or give him a hard slap for that. Singlehandedly ruined France's game.
Considering the performances of this generation, I was expecting Wales to crush us easily. So not so disapointed by the result. France has still a long way before recovering his 2000s performances.
Yes the red card cost France the game, but how about Romain missing two easy kicks
same thing happened to Wales in 2011 it's a mirror match
You can say that for everybody and everything : if they played better they could have win, if they run faster, if they didn't miss penalties, if they choose to take the three and don't try to score another try etc.... Don't think with if! Because we can also say if the Welsh didn't score the try or miss the penalties they could have loose. It's endless.
Ethan Mears exactly
Wales didn’t win that game
France lost it.
We’ll meet you next Saturday Wales,
May the best team win.
and that team may be Wales. Teams learn from adversity. I just hope JD reforms the defence. It'll be a close war of attrition.
wales will lose 2 africa sorry
david wackko no doubt about it
that makes no sense but ok
And guess what ? France has just won against them
Thanks. As a Cymraeg woman living in Ecuador, i truly appreciated you bringing. this.We Cymraeg live all over the world, so please, keep bringing us the updates on Wales.
Hello Isabella out there in Ecuador. Love from Wrexham x
Great commentary
Congratulations to Wales
They took full advantage 😉
Vahmaiena has now lost two games to Wales single handedly 😂 the pass and the elbow
That elbow cost the match. Idiot must be getting the blame non-stop now.
Absolute idiot!
If I was French I would be calling for him to never put on a French rugby shirt again. That was absolutely childish and pathetic for him to do that in a French maul that was going forward and going for another try that couldve put the game to bed for France.
@@loluntilmypie he announced he stop his international career today ;)
@@MrRandyMarsch I know, perfect timing eh????? lmao
Dan V As a frenchman, i totally agree
The best match of the quarter final ❤️
I love how the team that gets a red between these 2 loses by 1 point both times.
... especially when the winning try is awarded after a blatant forward pass.
@@hagst27 not forward so suck it up buttercup
@@xxwales15xx33 birds eye view made it look pretty forward..
@@-666- it doesn't count as forward if its ripped
@@xxwales15xx33 it doesn't count as forward if it's ripped, true, but only from the ball carrier perspective.
Law 11, Rule 5.b : "The ball is not knocked-on, and play continues, if : [...] A player rips or knocks the ball from an opponent and the ball goes forward from
the opponent’s hand or arm."
FROM TRY SCORER TO RED CARD.......COST THEM THE MATCH IMO.........NOT FRENCH BUT REALLY FELT FOR THEM
J'ai la haine. 😒
Contre certaines décisions arbitrales
Contre les gallois
Contre ce putain de Sébastien.
Contre ce ... de Sébastien ?.. Tu t’intéresses au rugby depuis hier ? Tu retiens que ça de lui ?.. Moi j’ai la haine contre Laporte qui a réussi à rendre l’équipe de France encore plus moribonde qu’elle ne l’était déjà...
Shouldn’t have done it then should he?
Like Wales felt when it happened to us when we played them before at the World cup.
This was the only quarter final game that was competitive
SA n Japan was competitive on the first half however second half Japan was overpowered
Yes the red card made a huge impact, but also how important was France's missed conversion from the first try? That would have done it 🤦♂️
Agreed, and a penalty kick.
Well then they need better goal kickers? No different to wingers who don't finish tries. You'd want a more talented winger
Yeah I'm quite shocked..as a neutral fan. They missed both a try as well as a penalty..I think rather than the red card these two missed opportunities made huge impact and it shocked me a bit.
When wales got a yellow, France scored.
When France got a red, wales scored!
It’s literally that simple folks! Keep disciplined and you’ll win.
daiviking Eh oui, c'est ce qu'il manque à notre équipe pour gagner, de la DISCIPLINE.
barbie turique sorry mate I can’t read french.
Daiviking, you're totally right. Re-doing the match afterwards is pointless anyway. The truth is simple : France played brillantly and lost stupidly by a lack of discipline. For information, barbie turique agrees with you as well.
Bertrand GEORGEON thanks mate, it wouldn’t let me copy paste to google translate, so I didn’t know if he agreed.
It’s a common thing in the modern rugby era, if you get put down to 14 men you will concede, just like SA 🇯🇵 japan
The yellow was only for 10mins and the French were all over you prior to the red.
Absolutely loved this game
Well played.. Respect for both teams... Go Dragons Go.. 🐲🐲🐲
Love how the commentater pronounce French names
Yes, his pronunciation is correct !
He even say "vahaamahina" correctly when our french speaker doesn't !
Yeah it’s not like football where the commentators can’t even pronounce English names
Issou Quintero He used to play rugby for Wales... Eddie Butler a Welsh speaking rugby player! Good person, loves the French way of things/life and learned to speak french. Very good commentator. Im super Welsh, but I will say that the red card person made it much easier for us to win, thankyou lol!
@@issouquintero776 Absolutely, excellent pronunciation. l think his French is pretty good.
Vahaamahina coute tout le match : 1er essai gallois il regarde le 6 passer sans même essayer de courir alors qu'en accélérant à peine un peu il l'aurait plaqué sans problème. Ensuite il plaque haut, une pénalité. Et puis le carton rouge.. ça m'étonnerait qu'il revienne en EDF.. il coute 10 points et laisse ses coéquipiers à 14. Sinon le reste de l'équipe très bien, Man of the match Vakatawa
c'est que je me suis dit sur le 1er essai gallois : mais COURS bordel!!!
Vahaamahina passe complètement à côté de son match hormis l essai cela arrive même en quart
Par contre cet arbitre dont l incompétence n est plus à prouver n a strictement rien à faire en phase finale de coupe du monde il n à pas été capable d arbitrer pleinement un seul des matchs de ce tournois ses notes sont catastrophique et pourtant il est toujours là
L arbitrage de cette coupe du monde est dans l ensemble décevant peu d arbitre sorte la tête de l eau vraiment étrange surtout avec les moyens actuels....à suivre
@@mounolivemounolive8064 Oui j'suis daccord pour l'arbitrage pour l'essai gallois il y'avait clairement en avant.. mais en général dans cette coupe du monde oui, bcp de choix incohérents, un match on siffle une certaine faute, un autre cette même faute n'est pas sifflée.. compliqué tout ça
@@paulthiebaut Non si il y'a arrachage de ballon le joueur en possession du ballon ( ollivon là) ne peut pas faire d'en avant, par contre si le défenseur (davies je crois) fait partir le ballon vers l'avant pendant l'arrachage alors y'a en avant, et ce qui aurait donc du etre sifflé
Away « Il n’y a pas en avant si un joueur arrache ou tape le ballon des bras ou des mains d’un adversaire et que le ballon quitte les mains du porteur vers l’avant » Ce qui est le cas donc y’a rien à siffler.
MUCH better than the other extended highlights I saw of this game. Poor France should have won but shot themselves in the foot.
Pointless whinging - France lost through indiscipline, and this is not an unusual occurrence. Discipline is a vital element of rugby football.
France lost to a knock on.
We were dominant with 14 players...
Yup
@@vicvicking1990 try wouldn't have mattered if France had put over an easy penalty and conversion.
@@vicvicking1990 we weren't dominant with 14, Just trying to save the boat
@@vicvicking1990 does dominant mean scored no points and just about held on till the last 10 minutes
I think this shows how much Wales miss Jonathan Davies in that 13 channel, the French outside centre made breaks all game, breaks that someone like Jonathan Davies simply wouldn’t have allowed
Add to that Jon Davies is defense captain .. I hope he's ready for semis ..
Yes, it was surprising to see the Welsh backs concede so many breakthroughs. They will have to step up for the semi.
thats all folks wales are going home south africa be too strong for us
@@davidwackko693
Have you ever considered coaching positivity at a local rugby club ...
@@isitwasit8756 why ask me that for
What a game! I'm Australian, but have Welsh heritage. I'm rooting for them 🍻
If you were American, that's fine... but I get worried when an Australian says, I'm "rooting" for them. 😮😳
Sorry for you 😉
Julien Mauro Id be sorry for you with a girls name like Julien! If your a girl I apologize lol!
@@caiotefu9856 your name sounds like bollocks in French, like your face so...
sorry but wales wont beat south africa
Love Wales they have heart & sportsmanship
Disagree they were outplayed and ball went forward
Such high tackle like arm-bomber dangerous, and elbow hitting crazy!!
That 2nd French Try was textbook!
Absolutely uninspiring win by Wales. Was expecting them to crush France based on their groups performance.
We underestimated them and France had all the motivation needed to put in a huge performance, since we're in the same position as France now against the Springboks I hope we can pull off a big performance
@@xxwales15xx33 the boks are on a whole new level , wales can't conceive to win, it's a team that barely held it togheter ... against france! sorry but it will be a clear win by the boks!
@@vadergrd we'll just have to wait and see wont we?
@@xxwales15xx33 yes , anything can haeppen , wales is a great team , but they don't seem to be able to match in physicality and also team depth.it's just a prediction of mine based on what i have seen till now.
@@vadergrd we've played and beaten the most phsyical teams in the competition and we have depth in our team, its just that we came off a tough game while France had an extra week off and looked far fresher. Much rather play the springboks compared to England and or NZ since they dont posses the attacking threat like the other teams we faced
Congratulations Wales, you have shown how rugby must be played: cold mind and strong forward
Pass forward*
@@Raisonnance. 🤣🤣
Well, if you play like that against the boks, good luck to you...
I love the welsh but the French were pushing so far by just smashing in. Not even bothering to use sets. Like an unusual distance. Lucky they got that advantage
It would be fantastic to see England v Wales for the final
would be fantastic when you woke up that dreams are only dreams
I guess a N.H RWC Winner is loooooooooong overdue lol
Michael Shine yeah there is no way england will NZ and the chances that wales will win SA is just as low
It would be but I think that will be the bronze final tbh
Except that England will be soundly defeated by New Zealand and Wales creamed by South Africa...
the ball goes forward , paralelism is kept in space no matter of the perspective (think try line) , but he rips the ball from the arm of the opponent so it cannot be a knock on!
Beautiful win 🏴❤
1:45 when your winger is slower than the no.7 on the opposite team.
With all the consideration I have for this man, Vamahina disrespects all rugby players who would have liked to be in his place on, like all the hand mistakes and high-tackles he mades, is symptomatic of a lack of lucidity and professionalism.
It's the first man to have a red card in the French team threw all the WC. What a bad image he gives to this beautifull sport. Hopes he will asks for apologies to the 6.
He was provoked, in English and French, by Welsh players all the first half and the Referee did not say a world. Verbal continuous provocation is the best skill of British ruby union. french players are not always cool
anisocoro so being verbally harassed in a mental sport... means you have to cost you team the game? Rightio champ
@@otis__bz9348 , I think but I can be wrong, in an English speaking sport, France is not allowed to win World Cups.
Part of it. Fairplay is a joke, especially with british nations.
Even at low level sport, there are already people trying to make you break a fuse by harassing you. It's pretty well known that Vamaahina can lose it easily.
French players as far it is known, did not verbally provoke the Welsh, partly because if they had done it,, the Referee would have stopped them at once. When Wales , Ireland or England meet France ( or other teams as well) there is a continuous provocative chatter that is permitted to continue from the start to the end. I remark that Referees do not permit to answer. When there are not provocations , it is because adversaries' language is too difficult! This s not a secret. Of course, the best answer to provocations is to mark tries but Vamahina is not an ice-cold character and he overreacted. We must admit that Anglo Saxon layers are often more cool minded
Wales don't always play well, but they still manage to win games, so that for me is a positive. So much hate around Wales and I really don't get all of it (yes, some Welsh people are utterly annoying/ignorant). We have a population of only 3 million and manage to compete against countries like England with a population of 55 million. The lack of context in the hatred towards us astounds me.
SockPuppet89 we love you brother. Great win and all the best for the rest of the competition. From a French fan
New Zealand is only a population of 4.5m and they beat the pants off pretty much everyone. Population is a dumb stat to quote mate.
@@jamesmcgowan8709 Not quoting it to make a point other than set context. I am not suggesting that having a small population some how makes us virtuous or deserving of more respect, I am simply saying the way people really strongly hate on wales for being a bit rubbish at times is harsh, considering countries like Fiji, Japan, Samoa, Ireland, Scotland don;t receive the same treatment.
@@MrDowilkins Thank you - all the best for you as well. I am truly gutted that the game played out how it did.
SockPuppet89 nobody hates on Wales mate, they’re just saying wales did not deserve this win and they didn’t.
France have improved and will continue to do so. With Dupont, Ntamack, Pennaud etc they will be very strong in 4 years time. But if a player loses his discipline and does something as stupid and dangerous as that, they deserve the consequences. Hard to take for the fans. Wales need to take it up a few gears to challenge a strong Springbok side but they are capable.
You have no idea how right you were going to be!
Don’t worry France, South Africa will clean it up 👌🏼💯
Edit: Told you so 😉
agree mate wales are going ome
Lol, ok
Joe Ash we will see this Sunday boet 😂
@@boerepompie8244 id like to see it but camt see it aftriva 2 strong
Joe Ash how many times has Wales won the World Cup? Oops... sorry 😂
1:46 the definition of bowled over. Wow.
That last try knocked the stuffing out of France - watching it live, I wasn't entirely convinced our boys had won it with that try until I saw possession change back to us with a kick which went over the dead ball line. The French players looked completely shot.
what a lovely experience to hear eddie butlers voice
Ken Owens made 19 tackles in this match one of his best performances for Wales. Wyn Jones put in a very good shift as well. These boys will play against the Bokkes and they will love it!!!
Wales were outplayed
@@leeillman7195 Are you English?
@@leeillman7195
Wales got the job done. France were unable to win
Did anyone notice Liam Williams tackle on Antoine Dupont 1:44 😬
Who’s here after the 2020 six nations?
I love it when France beats Wales. I live in Wales tho. That is France revenge. Could have faced against South Africa
Great gutsy performance Wales, to stay in the match right up to the death!
Never gave up
Vahaamahina a toujours eu une sale mentalité. Son geste indigne d'un joueur professionnel est effectué avec du sang froid et donc encore plus inadmissible...
Franchement, disjoncté comme cela en quart du mondial c'est inadmissible. Il aurait pu pèter la mâchoire du joueur gallois qui fort heureusement comme le règlement l'oblige avait son protége dents. Vahaa nous fait perdre le match.
Wales had to win in 2011
France had to win in 2019
So france 1-1wales
Good luck against south Africa...a french fan
@@elarguet yes definitely 😥....the referee didn't do his job 🤔🤔....ah yes the all blacks played at home😬😬
Don’t worry, we will clean them up 👌🏻 - a South African
yep sorrty but africva will be 2 strong for wales
I love the way when the players get carded they walk off not much fuss. Respectful. If only footballers did so. Also the way we can hear everything the ref is saying. That would be good if we could hear that in football, it would make sense cuz the ref would have to explain his decisions.
That's why the amateur ethos (rugby union only professionalised in 1995) is great - rugby union players respect the referee and the opposition.
The best quarter final game
¡Una pasada!
I want to notice : behave player after he get a red card - no discusting, he knowes he hit with an elbow and he accept this. wow. and this was a quarter-final of WC ! Amazing.
Piotr S: this is normal behaviour in rugby; Union or League. Referees' decisions are respected - even if they are sometimes wrong. No falling over just because they have been touched, no running after the referee crying for a foul. Real men in a real sport.
Dommage, on a le mérite d'avoir été les plus forts. On se verra dans 4 ans !
On vera au 6 nations
Oui, la mieux équipe perdue
Oui
rugby ou muay thai ?
@@SeaKennyZ Les 6 Nations et la CM c'est clairement pas la même chose
Wish we could have this commentary here in the UK.
South African here, would have loved to face France in the game instead of Wales - win or lose it would have been a great game I reckon. 🇿🇦🇫🇷
The better team didn't advance, how the ball was not called as going forward? Credit to France for almost winning the match and good luck to Wales you're going to need to step up your game
The better team did advance just not the better team on the day, France are like one win and 8 losses in their last 9 now against Wales. I agree France were the better team yesterday but they definitely aren't the better team in general if that makes sense.
It wasn't clearly forward. It is irrelevant what the ball does in the air after the strip. What is important is which way did it come out of his hands. On the replay you cannot say that it went forward with certainty therefore as the on field decision was a try, it stands. Laws of the game are difficult to interpret sometimes so It is understandable that some people may be confused.
@@sportspundit7171 actually it is relevant which way the ball travels, they changed the laws about 2 years ago. And the ball did clearly travel forward.
@@6jackace I agree with you. French played the better rugby but all that matters in knockout rugby is getting result. A win is a win. Due to the stupidity of one of the French players, the whole team had to face the repercussions of his actions. I am confident Wales will step up against SA.
Totally agree that the ball went forward. It's not by much, and the camera angle makes it look worse, but if you use the 5m line as a reference you can see it, although I can understand why the refs didn't think it was clear and obvious.
Sérieux les bleus nous ont surpris. Un match quasi parfait dans l'organisation et la tactique, et ce physique qu'on craignait tant, qui tient 80mn dont presque 40mn à 14. Mais à ce niveau, on ne peut pas se permettre de gâcher autant de possibilités de scorer, soit par des coups de pieds foireux, soit par des ballons tombés. Le match très moyen, voir miraculeux, des gallois est vraiment du à la pression française, et au danger permanent que nos arrières leur ont fait courir aux quatre coins du terrain. Donc je pense qu'on verra de meilleurs rouges en demi face aux boks.
C'était presque notre équipe type, Lauret à remplacer par Macalou, Guirado désormais retraité à remplacer par Marchand et Huget par Thomas, et Slimani par je ne sais qui.
@@FromAgen Slimani peut tenir un certain nombre d'années.
@@FromAgen Par contre, il va falloir trouver un remplaçant du niveau technique de Médard. Pas gagné.
@@etoiledesneiges3999 Oui mais il n'a pas en odeur de sainteté au niveau des rencontres internationales, il est automatiquement ciblé par les arbitres, pas facile pour lui.
@@etoiledesneiges3999 Les arrières de classe internationale ne se bousculent pas au portillon. Mais on va bien trouver quelqu'un. Avoir 30 à 35 gars compétitifs contre les meilleures nations suffit après tout.
Sébastien Vahaamahina
What was he thinking?
That elbow punch Cost France The Game 😉
Can we please have a northern vs southern hemisphere 3 game series already? Would be so epic.
7 for France and 6 for Wales, have some serious pace to burn, for forwards. Wow 😲
France deserve this match
They were the better team but the elbow to the head was just stupid and lost them the game
U get what you deserve and France deserved to lose after the elbow
If they deserved it, they would have won it. France lost it themselves even without the red, those 2 easy missed kicks cost them.
France played better overall but a loss is still a loss even with them doing everything in their power to kill the clock
@@flatlineproduction1
Then 2011 was also won fair and square is that it ?
@@kimok4716 what relevance does fair have? Once the whistle is blown that's it you win or you lose of course its fair aslong as its within the laws of the game who would still be dwelling on something from 8 years ago? It's utterly childish just enjoy the game
Gd welsh players well done lads we know u lost the last 30 seconds but by God u played bloody well take my hat off to u it was a hard game but u played it well be proud off yourselfs we are proud off u know lets see south Africa play against England cause I don't think England will will beat them I think south Africa will win the world cup 👍♥️♥️
The red card did so much damage to France, but they took wrong decisions at crucial moments before it and after it so the whole team is to blame, they don't have the right to point fingers at Vahaamahina. Wales were even lucky with the winning try awarded after the review, it's obvious the ball went forward.
Just to point out that when you need big kicks to go in Dan Biggar becomes Dan Biggest and makes them.
ThePulmentinum I've wrote somewhere that I'm not Welsh but I've seen Wales scrape through a lot of matches and Dan Biggar converting everything..even in the last world cup and I find Wales quite exciting for these two weird reasons. Don't know how Dan Biggar does that..his conversions in the last World cup made me a rugby fan as well a fan of Wales.
Wales will need a different kind of performance to challange springboks ... They were lucky because the mistakes of ntamack and red card put the match on another track. The merit of Wales was to always remain attached to the score of France.
I'm glad we are not going to meet france in the semis lol.If wales play like this against springbooks,we surely will beat them.
Saverio Fontana yeah completely agree that try at the end was correct decision never went forward and we need to go up several gears now South Africa play similar to us lot of kicking and forwards trucking it up we should be better at playing that sort of game
@mabhodlela JJ yep sadly for me 😞
Always annoying to watch the weakest team winning, but that's the law of rugby: Score or die. I'm not worried these results will soon smile to France in future world cups. There is nothing to say about Wales, as "nothing" is the word to describe their performance.
Djezon nothing wat u mean topping our pool and then beating France who were the better team yeah nothing is the word to describe it salty much 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂
And a superb welsh team.
If us English and our dear friends Welsh if we meet up against each other in this RWC 2019. I still want Mr. Nigel Owens MBE, to referee.
He is a Genius and would never take sides.
May the best side win.
Good luck to England.
Good luck to Wales.
I wish the majority of English fans were like you, I would try to support them then
Just saw it now.
@8:20 Tomo Williams is in offside position in front of Dupont. More than the forward pass on the riping, it should have been a penalty for France.
Before the put-in, the defending team's scrum-half must be on his team's side of the middle line. Williams takes a step over the middle line as the ball was released; I would call that aggressive but not offside.
After the put-in the defending team's scrum-half only needs to remain on his team's side of the ball. Serin (not Dupont) puts the ball in toward his team's side (illegally, although everyone does it to an extent). Serin is thus immediately offside, as he must have at least one foot behind the ball. Williams has smartly advanced with the ball and is onside. Serin has no choice but to go around Williams to get back onside himself, which he does. There is no issue whatsoever with Williams being "in front of" Serin.
As soon as the Number 8 picks up the ball the scrum is over, and Williams is free to pounce. Ollivon may or may not have known Williams was standing over him, but had Ollivon not ended the scrum it would have been a penalty to Wales; Chat's head has come up before the French scrum collapses.
The scrum over, Williams rips the ball from the far larger Ollivon (before being blatantly fouled by Serin, but it turned out not to matter).
All in all, superb scrummaging by Wales, including Williams.
@glyn hodges Agreed! According to the laws the put-in must be straight and the scrum is a contest for the ball, which is more or less how it worked in my day (in 20th century Canada). The attacking side had the advantage only of timing and whatever angle and/or spin you could get away with, which was generally enough although a good hooker/strong pack could steal a ball now and then.
Nowadays the scrum is basically a fight for penalties because ball is fed directly to the attacking team. I don't like it, but if that is acceptable, change the laws! Why can that rule be ignored but the rule that the line-out be straight(-ish) is still enforced?
@glyn hodges And yes, massive effort at the end by Wales, so exciting to see the French scrum start to buckle. But as a former second row I really felt for the French pack, playing a man down for so long. Massive effort from them as well after Vahaamahina let them down.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx It was a nice and lyric paragraph to deform the reality and suits your narrative.
Fortunately for rugby, Wales was brought back to reality (the real one) by an average but brutal Springboks side.
I guess that's what sometimes happen when the weakest team takes the place of the strongest, dixit Gatland.
@@zisssssou Say what you like. If 9s are going to put the ball straight back, the opposing 9 should take full advantage. I applaud the aggressive play.
France could have won that game, but it was hardly stolen from them, they threw it away.
I don't know who makes these,but this is not "Extended Highlights".This is just Highlights.There was so much that you could include e.g. Vakatawa crash ball that made Biggar fly.
Or that tip pass by Watkin
@@JustinRSoles followed by a big forward pass that was not whistled.
Even though Ross Moriarty didn't like the yellow card, he respected the refs decision. It's this respect of the ref that I love about rugby, cos any of these players could really injure the ref, but the respect for the ref is taught to 5yr old players
Some say based on that performance SA have nothing to fear. Thing is they were playing France and the game was yesterday. They play SA on Sunday things will be different for both teams. Likewise some say that England must raise their game considerably to beat NZ. Again, another day and another competition. The Boks must hope for an AB win, cause if England beat NZ I wouldn’t want to be between Wales and a final against England.
Déçu oui et non!!
1) je la sentais pas top la rencontre contre les gallois !! Match serré, mais perdu
2) on a retrouvé un peu l’equipe de France qui nous faisait rêver !! Bonne défense, discipline, french flair !!
On se retrouve au 6 nations !!
Discipline ?
Un plaquage haut et un coup de coude qui nous coutent le match.
L'indiscipline a toujours été le mal français en rugby
Moins de fautes de mains c'est vrai et plus de créativité et d'envie, mais quelle déception a la fin du match...bonne chance aux gallois pour la suite et on se retrouve aux 6 nations oui!
English!!
You'll be back. Keep the flair but deal with the indiscipline and you can beat anyone. The first half was the finest French play I've seen in ten years...ruined by one idiot. As for Wales....Yma O Hyd!
"Match serré "
T'es sérieux mec ? On leur a roulé dessus pendant 50 minutes, le match a été équilibré qu'à 14 contre 15.
Should be SA vs France in the semis, not Wales. Shame on that one player 🤦🏽♂️
Maori Boy I know, it’s a shame. It will be a SA vs NZ final I bet
@Maori Boy haha Same goes for All Blacks have a safe flight back to Aotearoa, Hãngi is already inside the umu 😂
As a South African, I'm diplomatically optimistic that the Boks should be able to beat Wales in the 2019 semi finals. Wales really struggled against a 14 man disrupted French team which should be a concern for them tbh, and they also haven't managed to beat SA in a WC ever. SA has also shown good improvement the last 2 years especially by disallowing the All Blacks a win in NZ vs the Boks, so many positives tbh. Time will tell lol.
Looked forward to me
Disciplined Wales. Well deserved win
8:20 regarder la position du 21 gallois qui fait tomber toute la mêlée fr , c du grand n'importe quoi
Mais cette action n'est pas du rugby de toute façon
Une situation un peu chaotique, mais je ne vois pas de pénalité.
Avant de commencer à jouer la mêlée, le demi de mêlée qui n’introduit pas le ballon doit se placer du côté de son équipe par rapport à la ligne médiane, à proximité du demi de mêlée adverse. Le 9 Gallois était légèrement hors-jeu à l'introduction du ballon, mais sans conséquence réel.
Une fois la mêlée commencée, le demi de mêlée de l’équipe qui n’est pas en possession du ballon doit avoir les deux pieds derrière le ballon et près de la mêlée mais pas dans l’espace entre le troisième ligne aile et le numéro 8. Le 9 gallois semblait être derrière le ballon en tout moment.
La mêlée ordonnée prend fin lorsque le numéro huit ramasse le ballon dans les pieds d’un joueur de deuxième ligne. Le ballon était déjà ramassé avant que le 9 gallois fasse son attaque.
Du jeu très agressif, certes, mais du très bon jeu.
John Smith aaah d'accord ,merci de m'éclaircir sur cet action ( je suis pas très bon dans les règles de mêlé )
@@martinriou4397 Je suis un ancien joueur de deuxième rang et j'ai encore de la misère à suivre les changements aux règles...
En passant, mon coach préféré était un immense Breton, toujours des blagues et chansons mais un gars dur comme fer.
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx Si vous avez du mal à suivre les règles en étant professionnel, imaginez le simple spectateur perdu dans les méandres de cette réglementation qui n'en finit pas d'alourdir la compréhension et la fluidité de ce jeu. Je crois que même les arbitres ont des avis partagés sur une même phase de jeu. Je ne connais aucun sport avec un règlement aussi complexe et alambiqué.
The French #9 took a HIT on that second try!
Lot of debate about the rip that lead to the try. I just don’t agree that the ripper’s hand is the last point of contact with the ball myself. In a rip the ball always ramps off the arm of the player it’s being ripped from. But even if that were a consideration I still think the try was good as it seemed flat level with Davies. Anyway, we win to lose another day. Which is Saturday if we play the same as last Saturday. Buckle up boyos!
Wales were poor against France. Luck on their side. South Africa going to be a tough test
100% agree. This French team were galvanized by that Red card and we had a poor attacking game. The better side lost, no doubt. However, you need a bit of luck in these type of competitions, so I really hope they can put in a respectable performance against SA.
Nothing to do with "luck". Everything to do with the red card.
@@Rabid_Wombat I consider it lucky that Sebastien Vahaamahina had a rush of blood to the head and did it.
Luck if I remember we beaten South Africa last four games not sure but last few any way they need the luck to beat the grand slam champs
Played poor yet still overcame best French performance of WC so far.. says everything about mental strength and belief of Welsh squad which will serve them well in semis
The ball looks like it went forward during the review. It was slight but still forward.
What a match !
Really missed Jonathan Davies. When I did not see his name in the lineup I thought it would be tough for Wales and it was.
Really missed Sékou Macalou for France, one of the most impressive flanker in the World and not selected.
You did. I admire how your team played but not the comments of your captain.
ill be very suprised if wakles make finals africa sorry will smash them
If France v England had not been cancelled this would have been a slower french team
Yeah and if my aunt had them she would be my uncle! Saying from France. Hey I hope wales win over SA!! Cheers
Maybe not
Once again the French live up to their rugby stereotypes ( no disrespect)
I may be wrong but the last scrum is the Wales scrum half not a mill offside when the French put the ball in the scrum before the RIP?
hey World Rugby, can you stream this match during lockdown/
Whatever you post is not going to change the fact that Wales are in the semi final.
It dosen't matter, they are going to lose the next 2 anyway...
Don't think the Welsh scrum half should be able to get away with that prior to the strip. He's basically standing at the back of the French scrum.
chris hull Clearly offside!
Totally agree. What’s the law on that? He was basically blocking the French scrum half!
The ball was out and the scrum was over so offside laws don’t apply
@@lloydc1092 just rechecked and no the ball wasn't out. Rose tinted. If that kind of play is allowed then you've got a mess at every scrum. Was a good shove though and of course the French only have themselves to blame.
As the ball goes in, the Welsh scrum half must be on his side of the centre line, then, as the ball moves backwards he can’t stand in between Flanker and 8 waiting for the ball. He broke both of those laws. The ball wasn’t out until the French substitute number 8 stood up.
Cant i watch the full match ? Is there any website or something
Great game. France definitely upped their game and had the edge on Wales. Stupid elbow probably cost them the victory. But I think France are lucky not to have played England. It would not have been close.