The "And more" part includes Pike's illusion image confronting Vina, taking her hand and heads off to the lift . Mean while real Pike stands by to watch. A bit sneaky I'd say, but Pike had to leave, knowing Vina was still being cared for.
No offense, but I think that most of the comments missed the point. This was meant to comment on the human condition. You can have all the technology and science, but the human condition will always be the same. Anyone who has lived a life with a disability understands. Vena wanted to be loved, as we all do, but she did not want to live a life as an object of pity. She is not prideful, but in pain. Sometimes, there are no easy answers, no magical cures. Humans seldom see the person inside the shell. The Telosians' illusion let Pike accept her for who she is inside. It was truer than her reality. Did you note the split second of revulsion on Pike's face? People won't change in 300 years. It will take a lot longer.
"All that they found in the wreckage was a lump of flesh, barely alive. They had never seen a human before, so they had no guide to put me back together." Vina explained her condition to Pike as best as she could. She was the sole survivor of the crash landing of a survey ship that was exploring the Talos star group 18 years earlier.
Looking at the real world medical and beauty procedures of today could easily give Vina a very close return to her natural form in regards to beauty and very close to her natural body with independence of movement.
@---oq5kb This really does show how difficult it would be to get a decent shampoo and conditioner on a planet inhabited by slapheads. I mean, just look at her hair at 0:29 Sorry, what were you saying about people missing the point?
In this version, from "The Menagerie" it never made any sense when the Talosian says "and more" after she gets her illusion of beauty back. It wasn't until I saw the cage that the "and more" made sense, because we see a 2nd captain pike with Vena walking up to the lift. She gets to live out her life with Capt pike.
It always makes me laugh when Vina says the Talosians had never seen a human before and had no idea how to put her back together again. I mean, it's got to pretty much be a universal rule that organisms have symmetry. The Talosians have it, after all. So why put a hump on one of her shoulders? LOL Besides, though all the other crew members were killed in the crash, the Talosians couldn't get any clues from the corpses? Hmmmm
What makes it perfect at the end of The Menagerie, is that Chris Pike actually does get to look what he was before the accident he had and be with Vena and I always thought as a kid watching ToS, that Vena was dead as was Pike since you didn't really see him transporting down to the planet nor Spock being there either, it was more or less "okay, here's Pike saying his farewell to his protégé and best friend (Kirk and Spock) and was fine with Kirk taking the reigns of the USS Enterprise.
The illusion of beauty is so sough after today. We all are drawn to beauty. Who could blame Vina or anyone for choosing beauty. If there was a pill that cost 100000 dollars and it gave one the appearance of youth, people would sell their soul to acquire. Star Trek was out front on most topics we deal with today.
1960s TV had such dark cathartic plots and endings..Menagerie, Charlie X of Star Trek, Twilight Zone.(1959-1964).1950s TV was I Love Lucy and westerns. Alfred Hitchcock Presents in the 1950s was more sleuth murder plots. Sponsers threatened Hitchcock's show that had a magician accidentally sawing a woman in 1/2 on stage(part of the plot of course), but too gruesome for the 1950s and never aired. 10 years later on Star Trek you have Charlie taking people's faces away. We still love this stuff 50 years later with Black Mirror which was a copycat of Star Trek's Charlie X in a more nightmarish sense since it was the captain who was powerful and evil on it's premiere episode.
Thinking about this episode, the great irony is the medical science of today could easily give Vina back much of her physical independence, and modern plastic surgical techniques could very well return her appearance to something very close to what the Talosians give to her by illusion.
The expanded version says that in the 23rd century, the best they can do for Pike after his mishap is to stick wheels on him and give him a yes/no lightbulb. Not quite the level of optimism we associate with TOS.
It always bugged me that, in the enlightened future of the Star Trek universe, she decides to stay as a captive simply because she thinks herself too ugly to face the real world. Now if she were crippled, as Pike later would be, or suffering from intractable pain that only the Talosians could alleviate, that would be a different story.
She was crippled. It's been a very long time since I saw the full episode, but if I remember, she was in some sort of a wreck and her body broken and burned. The aliens put her back together as best as they could, but she still had difficulty walking, couldn't stand straight and was possibly in pain all day every day. When your body is like that, living each day is not a joy. It doesn't matter what century you're in or how enlightened people are, when you don't look like you used to esp if you have been disfigured and you are crippled and face constant physical pain it makes you feel rotten inside.
Correct. She explains that the Talosians had never seen a human and put her back together the best they could. I can understand wanting to live in what is essentially the Talosian holodeck. Although, I always found it a bit odd that 23rd century medicine was still primitive in many ways. I would think that they could do far better for Pike and if they had a chance to treat Lena. By TNG, they had addressed some of this, but that was only 80 years later.
@@josephmassaro Right - major suspension of disbelief needed to buy this vision of early 20th century medical science still applying when man can whiz around space at warp speed, etc....
It seriously annoyed me at the end when Vina says, "They rebuilt me. Everything works. But they had never seen a human. They had no guide for putting me back together." Really? They are essentially zookeepers. How many species are built asymmetrically? It's that hard to figure out what symmetry looks like?
My main complaint is that their bodies and faces look exactly like humans, so why couldn't they repair hers to look like theirs (well, apart from the fact that they all appear to be male)? But of course, I still love the 2-part episode, for many other reasons.
They were not just zookeepers, they lived the illusions along with their captives telepathically. They were not evil, as was evident by The Keepers final thoughts to Capt. Kirk.
Just a thought-it may have been that her injuries in the crash were so bad there were parts that were simply unusable. If your shoulder is smashed so badly that the ball and socket joint are more or less gone, you're not going to be able to have the arm function or even be positioned normally.
@@Chanticlair47 Or the Keeper's final words to Captain Pike in the original pilot: MAGISTRATE: No other specimen has shown your adaptability. You were our last hope. PIKE: But wouldn't some form of trade, mutual co-operation . . . MAGISTRATE: Your race would learn our power of illusion and destroy itself too. So the Talosians were capable of feeling concern for another sapient life-form. They just hadn't counted on humans' "unique hatred of captivity."
Good thing that the 2 women from the Enterprise under Christopher Pike's command who tried to save him were back on the ship before the Talosians showed Vina her true appearance. It would've made them sacred and upset if they saw her changing from being beautiful to being ugly and deformed in front of their own eyes.
Number One " Is Vina coming with us ?." Pike , " No, and I agree with her reasons." No.One was curious to know what had happened to Vina, but Pike just cut it off with that statement. He was probably hurt inside by the truth. He really felt for her.
Let's put that another way. Physical beauty is TEMPORARY. It comes. And then it goes. But while it's here there should be no reason not to enjoy it. Think of freshly picked flowers. It's something like that. BTW the actress who plays the alien in this scene also appears in Hitchcock's MARNIE. She's the woman who answers the door when Marnie is looking for a gun to shoot her horse which has become injured.
They can could read her mind and see what humans looked like - and they haven’t used their hands in thousands of years, but could put her back together? Yea, a lot of horse-shit there 🤣
If we knew how much "dialog" was removed, and what the dialog was, we would have a completely different take on the entire "The Menagerie" parts 1 and 2. I think in the light of all the missing dialog we would all come away with a whole new prospective. My older brother read, Star Wars in the 1970's and what it was as a paperback book, and what was taken out of the paperback book in order to get it to fit in the allotted time frame of a major big budget Hollywood movie was not the same as the book. I see the Talosians as 10th dimensional Arch Angels, with much greater psychic abilities than humans have, and I commune with them!!! and I think that if we were privy to the whole entire script, and not bits and pieces of it, a entirely new picture comes into focus and how The Talosians are Benevolent!!!
All three of the Talosians were played by women. The Keeper (or Magistrate) was played by actress Meg Wyllie, and one of the other Talosians was played by actress/dancer/stuntwoman Sandra Gimpel (who also played the Salt Vampire in "The Man Trap").
HISH time A) "but we dont judge people just on their looks...." Or B) "what the hell guys, we dont look that much different then you. 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head. How didnt you figure this out?" But really... C) "oh that's ok, we have this transporter thing that can disassemble you at the atomic level then reassemble you the right way. Healing you in the process. Infact I better remember that incase I ever need to use it."
The only problem I had with this episode was that the humans were brought to the planet to procreate. Judging from her age and physical injuries, the likelihood of her having children would have been very small. Granted they kidnapped the other two Star Trek women, but that wasn't the original plan.
There is a lot wrong with this episode... According to Number One, Vina should be 18 years older though perhaps that could be covered up by her disfigurement. The part about them not knowing what a human looked like is wrong since they could have simply looked inside of her mind to see what she looked like!
@@mr.terwilliger5728 Yes, back in those days, special effects people worked magic to do those things.You want to hear a crazy story on the Orion slave girl scene?. They had to redo it many times because the company developing the film had no idea that she was supposed to be green. So every time the film came back, the Orion girl was flesh colored. They wound up painting Susan Oliver the darkest shade of green before the studio found out what was happening. In the end she was finally green on film. The developer apologized .
@@johnbockelie3899 That's a true story, except for the fact that it wasn't Susan Oliver. It was an early green makeup test using actress Majel Barrett, who played the first officer "Number One" in the pilot and later played Nurse Christine Chapel in the series.
she’s not even ugly in her true appearance. i wish it focused more on her wanting to live without being disabled instead of just looking beautiful. but hey it was the 60s lmao
Frankly the "beautiful" face looks weirder, in my opinion. Her "true appearance" just looks like a normal elderly lady, the "pretty" appearance gives me uncanny valley vibes for some reason.
Some subtle messaging ???? Beauty should come with a warning and “use by” date. It is not permanent. It can be beguiling. It is not substantial. Having said that, women are pretty amazing. Growing a person in your tummy is quite clever. Even I couldn’t do that... And I’m a bloke !!
Horrible editing. She explained to Pike that the aliens didn't know where her parts should go after they found her in the crash. No experience with human life. This was why she was so disfigured. And doesn't show her walking away with an illusion of Pike to soothe her similar to what he wanted for her. Companionship was what she cared for, not her own beauty.
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When it's closing time at the bar and the lights get turned on.
There was nothing "illusory" about Susan Oliver's beauty!
AMEN....👍👍👍
The "And more" part includes Pike's illusion image confronting Vina, taking her hand and heads off to the lift .
Mean while real Pike stands by to watch.
A bit sneaky I'd say, but Pike had to leave, knowing Vina was still being cared for.
one of the best star treks written.
Paula Cross , I agree! My favorite episode. Always think of the part where the alien says, and more.
Yes. This is where I thought the Talosians were actually pretty cool.
the sound effects were perfect for another planet feeling .
I fully agree. And to think this was rejected by the network. BTW, , that scene at the end broke my heart.
I really did like this one a Lot !!
The pilot episode of Star Trek, The Cage which later ended up a two part episode, The Menagerie. Excellent episode!
Yes, we know.
@@Pharoset
We know "what" ???
Dan Basta.
Yes, we know, but you like to sound like you are gifted with knowledge and we know that too!
The pilot is so much better.
TOS Star Trek was awesome.
Talosian's power of illusion was a great weapon.
Fabulous episode.
Ironic that the “illusion “ is in fact the true beauty. Had a mad crush on her when I was a kid. Thanks
it was heartbreaking to her transform in her real appearance but that's the illusion of beauty.
This a red pill Movie
You’re not coming on my ship looking like that!
No offense, but I think that most of the comments missed the point. This was meant to comment on the human condition. You can have all the technology and science, but the human condition will always be the same.
Anyone who has lived a life with a disability understands. Vena wanted to be loved, as we all do, but she did not want to live a life as an object of pity. She is not prideful, but in pain. Sometimes, there are no easy answers, no magical cures.
Humans seldom see the person inside the shell. The Telosians' illusion let Pike accept her for who she is inside. It was truer than her reality.
Did you note the split second of revulsion on Pike's face? People won't change in 300 years. It will take a lot longer.
"All that they found in the wreckage was a lump of flesh, barely alive. They had never seen a human before, so they had no guide to put me back together."
Vina explained her condition to Pike as best as she could. She was the sole survivor of the crash landing of a survey ship that was exploring the Talos star group 18 years earlier.
I mean, missing the point is common when it comes to comment sections of star trek.
@@---oq5kb True.
Looking at the real world medical and beauty procedures of today could easily give Vina a very close return to her natural form in regards to beauty and very close to her natural body with independence of movement.
@---oq5kb This really does show how difficult it would be to get a decent shampoo and conditioner on a planet inhabited by slapheads. I mean, just look at her hair at 0:29
Sorry, what were you saying about people missing the point?
Reminds me of my wife's transformation in the morning.....
Sick I didn't know Jeff Bezos had a Role in Star Trek xD
That’s Jeff Hunter
Star trek had some of the best looking women on their show.
Yep, they used a Miss USA winner and even a Porn Star in episodes.
In this version, from "The Menagerie" it never made any sense when the Talosian says "and more" after she gets her illusion of beauty back. It wasn't until I saw the cage that the "and more" made sense, because we see a 2nd captain pike with Vena walking up to the lift. She gets to live out her life with Capt pike.
And Captain Pike gets to live out his illusion of health and love.
Talosian are the instagram filters
#NoFilters
It always makes me laugh when Vina says the Talosians had never seen a human before and had no idea how to put her back together again. I mean, it's got to pretty much be a universal rule that organisms have symmetry. The Talosians have it, after all. So why put a hump on one of her shoulders? LOL Besides, though all the other crew members were killed in the crash, the Talosians couldn't get any clues from the corpses? Hmmmm
Maybe that's how all the dead crew members looked!
It's because the Talosian were cruel and spiteful!
What happened is they found a picture of Maxine Waters in the wreckage and followed that when they operated.
Alright alright u r one smart cheese
Perhaps the appearence of the Talosians was also an illusion.
What makes it perfect at the end of The Menagerie, is that Chris Pike actually does get to look what he was before the accident he had and be with Vena and I always thought as a kid watching ToS, that Vena was dead as was Pike since you didn't really see him transporting down to the planet nor Spock being there either, it was more or less "okay, here's Pike saying his farewell to his protégé and best friend (Kirk and Spock) and was fine with Kirk taking the reigns of the USS Enterprise.
Deep thoughts!
I wish this clip included her explanation...."they had no guide for putting me back together"....
Star Trek as a whole, is highly underrated, under appreciated, and disrespected. This attitude needs to change!
She'd still be swiping left today
The illusion of beauty is so sough after today. We all are drawn to beauty. Who could blame Vina or anyone for choosing beauty. If there was a pill that cost 100000 dollars and it gave one the appearance of youth, people would sell their soul to acquire. Star Trek was out front on most topics we deal with today.
Morality plays.
1960s TV had such dark cathartic plots and endings..Menagerie, Charlie X of Star Trek, Twilight Zone.(1959-1964).1950s TV was I Love Lucy and westerns. Alfred Hitchcock Presents in the 1950s was more sleuth murder plots. Sponsers threatened Hitchcock's show that had a magician accidentally sawing a woman in 1/2 on stage(part of the plot of course), but too gruesome for the 1950s and never aired. 10 years later on Star Trek you have Charlie taking people's faces away. We still love this stuff 50 years later with Black Mirror which was a copycat of Star Trek's Charlie X in a more nightmarish sense since it was the captain who was powerful and evil on it's premiere episode.
Eternal scenes...amazing
What she really looks like after you’re sober.
"This is the female's true appearance."
Best line on TV.
I've used that line when appropriate.
A married man sees it every morning.
They need to show every Hollywood starlet without makeup.
Thank you for commenting.
Can you imagine the beautiful babies they could have produced. Intelligentand attractive both!
The difference between a woman at a bar at midnight and what you have the next morning.
The elaborate aging makeup applied to Susan Oliver was very effective.
Thinking about this episode, the great irony is the medical science of today could easily give Vina back much of her physical independence, and modern plastic surgical techniques could very well return her appearance to something very close to what the Talosians give to her by illusion.
The expanded version says that in the 23rd century, the best they can do for Pike after his mishap is to stick wheels on him and give him a yes/no lightbulb. Not quite the level of optimism we associate with TOS.
Yep, reminds me of Charla Nash
You really should have left this scene intact because what you edited out was very important.
I think I would abandon the ship to stay with her.
Are there Talosians on Earth? Some alien race is giving the illusion that commercial pop and rap is good music
Ok boomer.
@@flybeep1661 cringe
Edward Bliss - You're now asking the impossible, even for Talosians.
Rap is good, boom 360 no scoped
@@carlosspicyweiner6293 OkEy BoOmR
:27 "Oh, geez, he's going to choke the life out of me after all."
then 10 years later Pike is like " hey, any port in a storm"
It always bugged me that, in the enlightened future of the Star Trek universe, she decides to stay as a captive simply because she thinks herself too ugly to face the real world. Now if she were crippled, as Pike later would be, or suffering from intractable pain that only the Talosians could alleviate, that would be a different story.
Also, when offered, Kirk should have said, "Chris do you want to go there, and be with Vena ?" This would have implied the romantic connection.
She was crippled. It's been a very long time since I saw the full episode, but if I remember, she was in some sort of a wreck and her body broken and burned. The aliens put her back together as best as they could, but she still had difficulty walking, couldn't stand straight and was possibly in pain all day every day. When your body is like that, living each day is not a joy.
It doesn't matter what century you're in or how enlightened people are, when you don't look like you used to esp if you have been disfigured and you are crippled and face constant physical pain it makes you feel rotten inside.
Correct. She explains that the Talosians had never seen a human and put her back together the best they could. I can understand wanting to live in what is essentially the Talosian holodeck.
Although, I always found it a bit odd that 23rd century medicine was still primitive in many ways. I would think that they could do far better for Pike and if they had a chance to treat Lena. By TNG, they had addressed some of this, but that was only 80 years later.
@@josephmassaro Right - major suspension of disbelief needed to buy this vision of early 20th century medical science still applying when man can whiz around space at warp speed, etc....
@VX and HE This is the last word in sexism. Congratulations.
It seriously annoyed me at the end when Vina says, "They rebuilt me. Everything works. But they had never seen a human. They had no guide for putting me back together."
Really? They are essentially zookeepers. How many species are built asymmetrically? It's that hard to figure out what symmetry looks like?
Exactly. Why didn't they look into her mind to see a self image! Ok Pandemic Overthink is on full effect lol
My main complaint is that their bodies and faces look exactly like humans, so why couldn't they repair hers to look like theirs (well, apart from the fact that they all appear to be male)? But of course, I still love the 2-part episode, for many other reasons.
They were not just zookeepers, they lived the illusions along with their captives telepathically. They were not evil, as was evident by The Keepers final thoughts to Capt. Kirk.
Just a thought-it may have been that her injuries in the crash were so bad there were parts that were simply unusable. If your shoulder is smashed so badly that the ball and socket joint are more or less gone, you're not going to be able to have the arm function or even be positioned normally.
@@Chanticlair47 Or the Keeper's final words to Captain Pike in the original pilot:
MAGISTRATE: No other specimen has shown your adaptability. You were our last hope.
PIKE: But wouldn't some form of trade, mutual co-operation . . .
MAGISTRATE: Your race would learn our power of illusion and destroy itself too.
So the Talosians were capable of feeling concern for another sapient life-form. They just hadn't counted on humans' "unique hatred of captivity."
Good thing that the 2 women from the Enterprise under Christopher Pike's command who tried to save him were back on the ship before the Talosians showed Vina her true appearance. It would've made them sacred and upset if they saw her changing from being beautiful to being ugly and deformed in front of their own eyes.
Number One " Is Vina coming with us ?."
Pike , " No, and I agree with her reasons."
No.One was curious to know what had happened to Vina, but Pike just cut it off with that statement. He was probably hurt inside by the truth. He really felt for her.
The power of the mind
Makes an impression as a kid.
dang! she tore up looking!
They probably wipped pike memory of the planet talosian and it's people and vena thinking he and his crew would never return
He’s like oh fuck put it back
Let's put that another way. Physical beauty is TEMPORARY. It comes. And then it goes. But while it's here there should be no reason not to enjoy it. Think of freshly picked flowers. It's something like that. BTW the actress who plays the alien in this scene also appears in Hitchcock's MARNIE. She's the woman who answers the door when Marnie is looking for a gun to shoot her horse which has become injured.
They can could read her mind and see what humans looked like -
and they haven’t used their hands in thousands of years, but could put her back together?
Yea, a lot of horse-shit there 🤣
This is the female's true appearance. Ugh...Okay, I got to be going, prepare to beam me up!
The great fault about beauty is that is hides how ugly our society truely is!
Did you see the alien's guilty look? 😒 He's probably did it on purpose so she wouldn't ever leave them.🤔
If we knew how much "dialog" was removed, and what the dialog was, we would have a completely different take on the entire "The Menagerie" parts 1 and 2. I think in the light of all the missing dialog we would all come away with a whole new prospective. My older brother read, Star Wars in the 1970's and what it was as a paperback book, and what was taken out of the paperback book in order to get it to fit in the allotted time frame of a major big budget Hollywood movie was not the same as the book. I see the Talosians as 10th dimensional Arch Angels, with much greater psychic abilities than humans have, and I commune with them!!! and I think that if we were privy to the whole entire script, and not bits and pieces of it, a entirely new picture comes into focus and how The Talosians are Benevolent!!!
The wall is Undefeated...
Her appearance even creeps out the Telosian at 0:26.
Unfortunately, many people spend their entire lives living a lie.
The bald alien is a women her name in MEG.
All three of the Talosians were played by women. The Keeper (or Magistrate) was played by actress Meg Wyllie, and one of the other Talosians was played by actress/dancer/stuntwoman Sandra Gimpel (who also played the Salt Vampire in "The Man Trap").
HISH time
A) "but we dont judge people just on their looks...."
Or
B) "what the hell guys, we dont look that much different then you. 2 arms, 2 legs, 1 head. How didnt you figure this out?"
But really...
C) "oh that's ok, we have this transporter thing that can disassemble you at the atomic level then reassemble you the right way. Healing you in the process. Infact I better remember that incase I ever need to use it."
That's how Fallen Angels operate
The entire world Carrie's this deception
Hola alguien sabe la canción de esa escena?..gracias.
Dang it, even with her "true appearance ", she was still better looking than me. Send me over to that planet! lol
I have known beautiful women who turned out to be real ugly on the inside.
Good episode, but Culber could have fixed that in 10 minutes, including the lecture.
When a woman takes her makeup off at the end of the day.
She looks like Supreme Leader Snoke
In this episode the Talosians were played by women.
Can I please go to Talos 4?
I would stay with her until the end.
The only problem I had with this episode was that the humans were brought to the planet to procreate. Judging from her age and physical injuries, the likelihood of her having children would have been very small. Granted they kidnapped the other two Star Trek women, but that wasn't the original plan.
Even the females true appearance is beauty.
Ray Liotta wants none a that...
There is a lot wrong with this episode...
According to Number One, Vina should be 18 years older though perhaps that could be covered up by her disfigurement.
The part about them not knowing what a human looked like is wrong since they could have simply looked inside of her mind to see what she looked like!
This is how women feel when they don't have makeup on
Why so much editing to the scene???
Even Star trekkers and aliens of the far future know what a female human is.
Come on now, you know that to be a lie! 😉
I’d like to know how they did that face change back then with that technology
The same way as stop motion animation. It's time consuming make up, but in the end it works the same way. That's how they did her change.
@@johnbockelie3899 ohhh that makes sense. I paused it and saw.
Thank you l, I appreciate it
@@mr.terwilliger5728 Yes, back in those days, special effects people worked magic to do those things.You want to hear a crazy story on the Orion slave girl scene?. They had to redo it many times because the company developing the film had no idea that she was supposed to be green.
So every time the film came back, the Orion girl was flesh colored. They wound up painting Susan Oliver the darkest shade of green before the studio found out what was happening.
In the end she was finally green on film.
The developer apologized .
Separate shots of Susan Oliver with progressively more and more makeup, edited together with lap dissolves (aka crossfades).
@@johnbockelie3899 That's a true story, except for the fact that it wasn't Susan Oliver. It was an early green makeup test using actress Majel Barrett, who played the first officer "Number One" in the pilot and later played Nurse Christine Chapel in the series.
she’s not even ugly in her true appearance. i wish it focused more on her wanting to live without being disabled instead of just looking beautiful. but hey it was the 60s lmao
Maybe she viewed both as being exclusive to one another?
She'd rather stay behind where there's no one of her species to admire her beauty?
whats that fucking song????
😂😂
This is red pill movie
Hillary Clinton's airbrush artist.
this is the females true appearance! me, aww hell Naw! Scotty beam me da hell up right now nigga!!!
Wasn't she too old to have children?
Frankly the "beautiful" face looks weirder, in my opinion. Her "true appearance" just looks like a normal elderly lady, the "pretty" appearance gives me uncanny valley vibes for some reason.
Congratulations on being gay.
I dunno why-I've seen her in several things, and that was really what she looked like.
@@englandbengal There are stranger ways to come out of the closet.
@@mainstreetsaint36 wasn’t my comment.
Some subtle messaging ????
Beauty should come with a warning and “use by” date.
It is not permanent. It can be beguiling. It is not substantial.
Having said that, women are pretty amazing. Growing a person in your tummy is quite clever.
Even I couldn’t do that... And I’m a bloke !!
Horrible editing. She explained to Pike that the aliens didn't know where her parts should go after they found her in the crash. No experience with human life. This was why she was so disfigured. And doesn't show her walking away with an illusion of Pike to soothe her similar to what he wanted for her. Companionship was what she cared for, not her own beauty.
Hillary Clinton
Marjorie Taylor Greene.