SVU Crosses the Line with Controversial Episode
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I used to love SVU as well. I quit when Christopher Milloni quit though. He was my favorite character (Ice T as well lmao) and the show wasn't good without him
It's been dead for years now. ):
I remember watching the show what felt like a hundred years ago. I think i saw Meloni leaving and that was already a sign. These new guys, they have personalities, right? Maybe judging them only by those few scenes is a little bit unfair, but i don't even want to find out.
The show had some questionable episodes, but this? I don't remember anything that came even close to this disaster. This is like the Batwoman-writers took over. Well thank the victim for showing the rape wasn't actually the worst thing, the rapist getting what he deserves would be way worse. I just can't ... everything is wrong here.
This must be some kind of April fools-joke, right? Or it's from some kind of mirror-dimension. Give Benson a mustache. Thats all i'm asking for.
@JLongbone They have been attacking the 2nd Amendment people for years on all the Law and Order shows.. So I support the 2nd Amendment I am part of it. So I understand your pain.
🤘 love ur take on movies an shows an all the dumb bs that they is ruining entertainment - ima subscribe 2 u
The woman says she doesn't want the guy to "go down that path" like, lady, he's not about to go down that path, he's at the _end of it._ He built a fucking _house_ at the end of that path and that house has fucking bars on the windows cause it's a _fucking prison_
*100% THIS*
"No, he can still be saved. But only if we let him go." - the victim. 🤢🤮
A few years ago a young leftist politician in Germany was R-ed by a group of migrants.
First the young woman blamed some unknown GERMAN men. Later when the evidence got overwhelming, she admitted to lying because she , and I quote:" didn't want these poor guys to go down that road." Also she wrote an APOLOGY LETTER to her own R-ists! In that letter SHE apologized TO THEM for them not being integrated enough into German society and because of that their frustration and anger lead them to this path.
I'm not kidding.
🤦🤦🤦
@@koppsr the South Park movie, I believe it was Kyle, "Dude, what the f* is wrong with German people?!"
There's actually a name for that, it's not Stockholm syndrome but it's another kind of mental syndrome that people develop when they've been assaulted, where they blame themselves for it. I forgot what it's called but it's an actual thing and that's literally a textbook version of it.
Why do they treat the rapist like more of a victim than the actual victim WHAT 😭
You know why
Something something 'societal norms", something something 'white privilege".
Because all black people are victims even the ones actively committing crimes
Keep in mind the victim is a lesbian...
It's very homophobic honestly
Cuz he’s ✨b l a c k✨
This episode is such a double-edged sword of shittiness. On one edge, it's essentially telling white women it's admirable to let their rapist off the hook if they're black. And on the other, it's babying black people, acting like they should be let off the hook for serious crimes because of their skin color. Truly vile in both regards, and I don't understand how anyone could even pitch this script without horrifying everyone in the room.
Even if they wanted to do a realistic take. The whole privilege thing done right. They really could’ve had even Olivia to feel like the public are too much of scaredy cats and fear cancel culture and the government of New York City aren’t doing their jobs. Truly what’s happening with our society in general. Maybe she realizes who she thought of backing aren’t even having the interests of her kin. Realizes that the public are too divided. And on a doomsday clock, tick tock 🕰️
Progressives gonna progressive.
Being an autistic nitpicker here but
The phrase "double edged sword" means that it has advantages and disadvantages. Now I'm assuming you mean bad in both directions.
-Horatio Caine: "I guess you might say...Her status as a victim, was never really _special_ to begin with..."
_YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!_
Sometimes it’s simply just a case of them presenting a bit of programming meant to foreshadow the way things will be “coming up’
So the Grape victim and her fiancée are sympathizing with the Grapist, because he's a young black man, and they're more worried about systemic racism; that's insane
A reasonable person might argue that they're actually aiding in systemic racism, just with the supposed historic roles reversed...
Ivy League College education right there ma'am.
I hope I don't randomly get attacked buy a bunch of grapes 🍇🍇😞
I'm honestly surprised nobody has made jokes about grape ape with all these grape statements.
Not to mention perpetuating a stereotype of white educated lesbians.
I love how pretty much everyone is in agreement that the gamergate episode was where SVU fell off a cliff
That was the funniest episode. Not a good thing for a show called SVU.
"I read on Kotaku that it was better than Civ 5 with the Brave New World expansion pack."
That's when i quit
Jontron voice: Excuse me whaaaaaaaaaat?
They leveled up.
@@elvickRULES I always think of the classic H3H3 video so fucking funny
Damn, I'm kinda ... sick and tired of giving criminals a pass because "muh childhood bad".
It's almost like telling someone it's "not his fault" makes him feel more justified in doing more and worse crimes. Golly.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Who'da thunk?! 🤯
I do miss the days of “that sucks but you’re still going to jail.”
Yes. They have a way of messing up other people’s childhoods by taking out their parents or just terrorizing their area. Or worse. I genuinely have sympathy for people who were raised in chaos and coldness. But most of those people do not become criminals
Well that's life so what that's how it happens in real life too so why you complaining
So SVU is perpetuating "grape culture" by defending the grapist and making the victim of grape someone who had it coming for how she looks.
Bold move.
Lets see how it pays off in the end.
More like a stupid move. Even better a moronic one.
Someone has to defend the poor grapists. People are so judgmental toward them.
I know. And this “grape” ain’t making no delicious wine neither… it’s making a mockery of seggsual a salt and what ACTUALLY happens in legal cases of this nature.
I think they are actually pointing out the depth of absurdity of how activist savior types can go
You can't say in one breath "we need to teach boys not to grape" and then suggest that maybe it's okay to sweep a grape or two under the rug if the perp is dark enough. That's literally teaching that you can get away with it.
RIGHT WHAT IT IS THIS?
The episode did not say that. This show is imitating life my dear. This is how people feel.these days.
The ending is basically like: "I know I shouldn't have committed an awful crime, but now that I was brought to court, I've learned that maybe r&pe is bad, so maybe I shouldn't do that again. I've finally learned my lesson."
*The More You Know*
That’s basically what that guy said right before he lunged at the judge
🤣@@goosegirl941
“Lava drinking culture has never been the same after that Pompei episode”.
Sometimes SVU can really manage to make “slavery was bad… mmkay?” Sound so utterly ridiculous.
And knowing is half the battle. GI JOE!!!!
The whole point of these shows is that you supposed to belive that there is a doctor like House, a police officer like Stabler or a firefighter like Matt Casey outthere irl. Someone who won't give up. Once you start inject "real life" into it you're ruining the core fantasy element
Yes which is why I still watch at this point it's like stepping into that ideal world that we want ours to be so I get to enjoy the drama that the characters go through and whatnot
It’s not even “real life.” It’s how some people imagine life to be.
The first time you go at the hospital ypu go dissapoint. Not like the series at all.
Or criminal investigators like Gibbs and the NCIS Squad.
Dudes, I know it's not real. I'm saying it's a fantasy like all thouse romantic movies. Imagine a romcom in which people cheat with worse people, marry for money, or have to deal with cucking, while still presented like a common. That's not why people turn Hallmark on and real life cruelty isn't why people whatch procedualss
I've known people, I've cared about people, who've gone to face their abuser in court and had the justice system let them down. *This* woman, meanwhile, got that ball lobbed right over the plate, and still chose not to swing. If, or when, this man decides to re-offend, that one's on her, and that makes me *very* angry. "I can afford therapy." Cool. Can his next victim?
The system always does with that
There have been real life cases of this happening. It's outrageous. But fortunately it partially absolves the writers of just making this atrocious plot line up. There are some liberals irl who are out of their damn minds and pull similar nonsense about not wanting their attackers "ending up in the system". Luckily it's not super common but it happens.
Yeah she's basically acting as an enabler here where she has for practical purposes handed this person the key to do whatever he wants from now on. And this is only going to bloat his already self-absorbed, sociopathic personality even more because now he thinks that these people actually want it or deserve it. Christ.
According to my mom, a case exactly like this episode happened a decade or so ago.
Spoiler alert: the perpetrator didn’t learn and did it again so-
Wow, what a shocker 😐
It's almost as if being soft on crime and racially selective when it comes to punishment doesn't encourage good behavior but instead fosters exploitation of weakness.
Wow who would’ve thought a rapist went on to commit rape……
There was a woman named Martha McKay who forgave a man for killing her mom and cousin. She campaigned for his early release and gave him a job at her b and b. When he stole from her, she fired him, and he murdered her and drowned while fleeing the cops.
@@ultimateowlie2283 reminds me of the story of the scorpion & the fox
damn, from a show who argued that lying about your job to have sex with women is rape, they go to "it's okay to rape as long as you're black"...
Such privilege they have, unless they don't vote demokkkrat
Didnt the guy pretend to have a high position at Hudson in order to get laid with married women?
Dude don’t remind me. That episode made me want to scream. Rape is only rape if there is some sort of cohesion or force. How is lying about who you are forcing sex out of you?
@@alayhaferron1972 Were they also pretending that women don't do it, to hook a rich guy?
Honestly, these stupid double standards are so sickening.
They took this off of real videos. It wasn't rape, but this guy was crying the cops were arresting a black guy who tried to rob him because of his white privilage.
Wait... back in the early episodes a suspect would mock Olivia for being a (_)ape-kid (thanks youtube) and then next scene he would be all roughed up and Ice-T and Stabler would be like "Oh shit... he fell down the staaaaairs. 5 times in row. Crazy shit man"
You aren't allowed to have cathartic fictional police brutality now.
I believe that's now called "toxic masculinity". The only correct way for such a situation to resolve now is for her to give him a long lecture about how pathetic he is, before jumping up, wrapping her legs around his neck, and throwing him into the opposite wall. Breaking her own nose on the desk in front of him is optional.
Which episode, sounds like a fun scene
Reminds me of a time Finn threatened a suspect and when the suspect called it out for brutality, Stabler just walked by "I didn't see anything."
"We're transferring you to county for the weekend... HEY TONY! Get the van without seat belts..."
Does anyone remember when "rape apologist" was the insult du jour? Turns out those who threw that accusation around actually think rape is acceptable. You just need the right skin colour. Go figure.
"There are no bad tactics, only bad targets" is what they really believe.
the show died for me a lot longer ago when olivia was ALMOST R--ed and went to womens group therapy. she then met with a woman who probably had a much more traumatic experience and sees that she has a gun (illegal in new york) for protection. red coat olivia pulls the cop card and takes the gun from this poor woman who genuinely needs it to feel safe. no empathy for it. screw her i guess.
Oh crap! That's horrible!
didnt that same ladty end up getting grapeape and vanished later on aswell?
@@housewilma4904No, someone in the group went missing. Olivia did go back to her since her and the victim were close
I saw that episode too. It sickened me. Bit*h should get off her high horse
“Then boom, the failure of liberal policies” thats such a good line
@@alondraandrade2179Pretty sure that socialists, communists and anarchists don't consider themselves liberals. And FYI The Seattle PD had been on a work slow down a full decade and half prior to Kshama Sawant and BLM, because of the WTO protests putting them under federal audit- So, the "liberal" political policies in King County aren't really a factor there, either- Cute talking point though.
@@WhatdidtheCountessdoAh nice try to deflect the fact that King County has been under Democrat rule since Reagan and obfuscating about leftist terror groups being on any other side but the Left is just lazy especially when you know very well that Liberal means Left in common parlance...oh and what were the WTO protestors calling themselves when they were destroying the town?...
@@WhatdidtheCountessdo thassalottacope
So Seattle wasn't Democrat 15 years or so ago?
Just call them Democrat policies since democrats don’t really believe in liberty.
Hoooow can this show both complain about rape culture and let a known rapist go scot-free because "poor wee baby, he didn't mean too" (and add some victim blaming too)?
Because in the oppression Olympics being black outranks being female. But they are still going to tell you how hard it is to be a female.
Your avatar is perfect for the comment.
Well from what I’ve seen, the ones who complain about ‘r*pe culture’ always seem to support women not telling anyone or doing anything to catch the r*pist. And they also usually tend to paint r*pists as white men, because they don’t want to talk about non-white r*pists because they think that’s racist. So it actually checks out if you understand what they actually hate rather than what they claim they hate.
And the fact that it's 1:1 for the actual, established description of "patriarchal race-based rape culture," he was released ENTIRELY based on his skin color and gender 😭 entirely self unaware
I saw this comment on another video that talked about this episode, and to me, it was the perfect response to what they'd say to "Lady Jesus" letting the kid off the hook.
_"Okay. You don’t have to press charges against him. But when his next victim does, I’m going to bring you into my office with her. That way, you can explain to her why her assault happened.”_
Yes exactly, and since most grapes are against women of the same race and socioeconomic status as the grapist, his next victim will probably be a poor Black girl who can't afford therapy.
“I never felt seen.” And you won’t be if you wear a ski mask and cat burglar uniform.
*THIS*
My husband was a juror on a case where a black man got a girl (I think 14 or 15 at the time) addicted to drugs and made her pay for them with sexual favors. The case resulted in a hung jury because some jurors didn’t want to send a black man to jail.
That is so crazy how that makes no sense at all did they change out the jurors because it doesn’t make any sense how you get hung up on the fact that the man is black and not about the fact that he got a 14-year-old girl hooked on drugs, and became a prostitute in order to pay off, said drugs that she was hooked on. What has the world come to oh my God.
🤮🤮🤮
@@EmoBunny69they had a retrial with different jurors
@@emilywallace9043 thank God also thank you for answering my question. ❤️
Many such cases.
The criminal in the show said that it was supposed to be just a robbery, that the grape wasn't supposed to happen. As if it self defense!? Who in the name of God wrote this offensive crap!?
Apparently he used the ol' "I slipped and it just fell in" defense.
A murder during a robbery gone wrong is more understandable than this
And if that kid is released AND GRAPES SOMEONE ELSE, then what about that victim who might not have your luxury?
Exactly! Also, did the show forget that most grapes are committed against people of the same race and socioeconomic status as the grapist? His next victim is likely to be a poor Black girl in his own neighborhood.
@@zxyatiywariii8and probably underage too. But you know, p*dophilia is almost legalized now since apparently being attracted to minors is a recognized sexuality now.
As a black man, I was insulted by this episode when I watched it. None of this shit made sense to me.
Oh look, ACTUAL victim blaming!
How is this episode not a living breathing example of "rape culture"?
'Rape culture" as white guilt Leftists portray it is blokes and dude bros high-fiving each other when assaulting women.
This is the more insidious version if rape culture, thar Leftists and Hollywood Elites are pushing to create a rape culture that can flourish, by convincing people that black dudes raping people is okay because 'social injustices" and 'white privilege"...
It is isn't it
They love grape culture, as long as certain peoples are graping.
See Rotherham, AirStripOne
Normalized grape culture, fixed that for posterity.
Didn't seem like it was really a thing, then SVU made it so
She really compared a kid who stole gum and was barely punished (spent a night in juvi) to being GRAPED…says all I need to know 😂😂😂
Totally delusional. That’s what the writer could come up with to signify “traumatizing miscarriage of justice.” Also, it is so ludicrous that you can’t even suspend disbelief for the show.
She also then said "Because he got in trouble for the gum," its implied he has a shit life. As a person with a addict brother, I'm gonna say what you aren't supposed to. A person who will do bad things, its like cancer, it either activates or it doesn't. I think some people would even blame not getting a certain toy for christmas as a kid on why they've done truly henious things. Smh.
Fun fact: Not getting a specific toy for Christmas as a kid was the actual backstory for Joan Cusack’s villain in Addams Family Values. Of course, that was intended as a comedy.
@@winterfire1097That's an excellent description!
The writing was on the wall when they did an Anita Sarkeesian episode, declaring women and girls want a farming simulator where they work together, and male gamers act like ISIS and film ISIS-style terroristic videos to deliver threats.
Edited repost because the algorithm deleted my comment:
The worst part is that this crap happens in real life. I recall a case from some years ago-can't remember if it was in Germany or Sweden (or maybe Holland?)-where a 'migrating person' forced himself upon a politician's daughter. Not only did the father have the _nerve_ to advocate for the criminal, but his daughter, _the victim,_ *defended the man too.* I was appalled. This isn't compassion, it's immorality masquerading as altruism.
For a more recent example of European soft-on-crime injustice, look no further than Josef Fritzl's release in Austria. Makes the blood seethe.
The consequences of Marxism
I don’t know which of these possibilities is worse: that the girl and her father are brainwashed enough to actually think the r*p*st is the vulnerable and deserving party; or that they are so afraid of the struggle sessions, reputation destruction, and worse they’ll get from their community that they are withholding their true feelings.
Either way, it is deeply sick.
Wah algorithm really did it?
@@heropath34.vaselisc.35 Most definitely. There are certain words that trigger it, but it isn't always applied equally. I've seen some people use the same phrases and not get censored, so I think it depends on how much you've been censored before. I can't use the 'R' word, for example, but I've seen others be able to post it.
I think that was Germany. I know recently there was a case where a couple were camping, and the same situation happened.
We might be talking about the same incident.
This is worse than the time they covered Gamergate
They what????
Go home, Gamer Gurrrl
Is it worse than when they covered furries, though?
Edit: _Fur and Loathing_ was the episode for those who are curious. 🤣
I read this comment like a Family Guy character announcing a cutaway.
@@acedetective7280 *dies from cringe* 💀
The fact that she was willing to let other women potentially be raped, makes her an accomplus
We should charge her as one
They finally topped the episode where a female right-wing talk radio personality is SA by a "mostly peaceful protester," the cast had no sympathy for the victim because she did not share their political views, and the case was thrown out after a witness ticked off the Hispanic assistant DA, who called for the motion.
They did an episode like that?? (Why am I surprised, they did one like THIS after all)
@kristinazubic9669 the episode was a shot at Alex Jones ("Info Wars"), while the victim, being a blonde, was a shot at Ann Coulter even though both personalities are grifting off their target audience.
@889654
Ah, but they ate ENTERTAINING grifters.
That moment when the cops in Brooklyn 99 are infinitely better at their jobs
Oh no, those woke arseholes ruined that series too, the whole "he said she said" episode is an example.
I liked that serie a lot in the beginning but the could not help themself with the whole "won't nobody think of the whamen!!"
I'd like to have seen Reno 911 tackle this.
Seriously, the SVU cops are making Hitchcock and Scully look like a pair of Sherlock Holmes'
The saddest thing Jlongbone, I have a friend in rl who would be just like lady jesus. We were in the car one day and she out of no where daid "I feel so guilty that I had the privilege of getting a HS diploma and other black and brown kids didn't." I then asked the simple question of "Did you purposefully hold them back? Were you supposed to pick them up?" She immediately got silent and sputtered her words after. The saddest thing of all she is asian and grew up poor and abused. But her husband is a big ol SJW, he drives like a bat outta hell, but no cops KNOW he's a POC and so therefore they pull him over just for fun, not for flooring it and serpentining on the highway.
White guilt is sop contagious sadly.
Friend told me that her cousin's car was stolen by a career criminal. The cops had to beg him to press charges cuz he "didn't want to ruin the poor kid's life by involving the police". They did convince him this guy was a total a-hole, but my God...
My niece said she “feels bad” for black people (yet wishes she was black since she has interests with more align with stereotypes of what black people like).
It’s embarrassing and gross. 👍
Your friend is a child predator for Satan.
Keep your eyes peeled around that friend. I used to have friends like that, that caught the brain worms somewhere or another. I can tell you from experience that all those types have one thing in common - they'll turn on you, viciously, and for absolutely no reason and without warning.
She doesn't know that many black people huh?
This episode treated r@pe like it’s petty theft
Worse! It came down on the petty theft more harshly than the assault.
Are we forgetting the organized attack on the precinct? I can’t believe what a dumpster fire this show has become.
Man, I’m sure glad real life hasn’t been like that for the past 3 years…
“MESSAGE!”
a seven year statute of limitations on grape makes it seem like theft under $150.00.
Yep..
I'm Native American. My rapist was Hispanic. I'm also male. And where I grew up that is pretty widespread. There's a difference between forgiving a rapist and refusing to hold them accountable. A man forgave Gary Ridgeway (the Green River Killer) for murdering his daughter, but he never advocated to have him released from jail.
I don't know who you are, but as someone who knows another male SA survivor, I see you and I care about you. And 100% on the forgiving v. letting off the hook.
@@sarahb.7175 thank you. That really means a lot to me.
I’m so sorry that that happened to you. I hope you’re doing well sir. God bless and love from California
@@Sienna6164 Thank you for your kind words. Love and blessings to you as well.
@@Mateoffvii Thank you so much
They swapped out criminal justice for social justice. Now it's a fever dream.
because he was back, she does not wanted to testify because she feared an unfair trial for him? this BS was never a thing in the older episodes. SVu is done. i can never watch this again. stabler was a pain in the ass..... but this is too much
There is a genuine story there, women like her exist. The problem is that the show is treating this as the "correct opinion"... It would be like if they had an episode on battered wife syndrome and the episode treated her not wanting to leave her husband as somehow being the right choice.
Yet how could he get a fair trial if the lead witness does not testify?
Exactly when has a rape survivor gotten a fair shake from our justice system?
Remember when blaming the victim was deemed as bad?
Apparently this show doesnt.
What annoys me is that Mariska Hargitay and ICE T has been in this show for 24 seasons , they must be rolling in cash , and yet they are so cowardly/greedy to not confront the writers and show runners and complain about the scripts , they would rather produce shit and take the cash , than advocate for a good show .
Yeah well. money talks, but even so I could tell by Mariska's and Scanavino's expressions throughout the episode, they were like wtf??
Maybe they approve of the message?
hell I'd take the money. don't act like you wouldn't lol
They probably stand with the propaganda and pandering to these insane ideologies. Most people in hollywood do. The art of telling a good story is almost entirely extinct. Those that have the integrity to do so are usually silenced before their stories even make it to production. I miss the days of escapism and true art that allows us to think, instead of lecturing us on what to think. Most of what mainstream media feeds us is recycled garbage. Unoriginal ideas with a "modern, progressive twist". I think SVU is done. It's tired. It cannot function while barely limping along, clinging to political ideologies, rather than giving us good characters, a hero's journey, and a place to escape to where LEOs fight with everything they have to solve crime and make the world better while also struggling through navigating the flawed experience of being human.
Hargitay is an EP on the show which now reflects HER own woke ideology, not the character of Olivia Benson, who has become so emotionally unhinged (with that forever trembling lower jaw) one wonders how she got promoted to captain.
Remember the episode when the women of SVU worked together to prove that Stabler didn't end the life of a criminal on drugs, whose drugs were actually the reason for his heart stopping? Now they would write it if a cop in the show breathes the wrong way, a lawyer comes from off screen and yells "Brutality!" Then all the SVU women put down the cop that committed such a heinous crime while serial assaulter walks free.
My mom's love of this show got me into it, and we would always watch it together. And then, later on in life, my late friend and I used to watch it all the time. It was once so captivating. Now, every episode feels like a spit in the face for ever enjoying it.
I know which episode you’re talking about, that was one of my favorite episodes
Sounds like a coincedence or pre-programming for the Floyd thing.
as someone who used to love the show for the same reason i heavily recommend criminal minds its everything this used to be but better.
even as the seasons went on and quality dragged its better then this preachy slop.
Same here. I used to look forward to watching the show with my parents every Wednesday. Now, I'd imagine that they'd be turning in their graves upon seeing how one of their fave shows got massacred.
... That's literally the George Floyd case. Huh.
They really should of just titled the episode “White Woman Wah Wah Wah Waahhh”, also what’s kind of sad is that if I remember correctly there was an episode of the OG Law & Order and it was about a Black lawyer guy murdering someone over “racial trauma” and he had been representing himself during trial and if I remember correctly there’s a scene where he’s in Jack’s office and Jack is just putting him on blast for being a race bater and a all around terrible, manipulative person, it was glorious, and now you sadly just have what ever tf is going on in current year SVU, also the stuff the rapist said was a complete WTF moment.
Oh! At no time, in all of human history, would Any woman ever take the approach of ‘I’m well off and can pay for therapy so this experience doesn’t have to ruin my life-but my disadvantaged r^pist’s life Will be ruined if I pursue charges’! And this show’s idiot ‘creatives’ suggesting it ever would or could is beyond vile and completely insane! Agree with your every word on this-it’s just BONKERS this got written, filmed and released on a show that, as you correctly said, is supposed to speak to/for victims!
The level of both inexperience and total delusion is really incredible. They probably thought of the women as tragic heroes. The grape-ist, too, I guess 😂
It already has happened.
No, it's already happened IRL. What's crazy is that the writers are endorsing it.
6:10 "What happened to this city?"
It's f×cking New York, lady. It's ALWAYS been a sh×thole, but all of the residents have the WORST case of Stockholm Syndrome that has ever existed.
"Dis is New Yawk babeee! Da Big Apple! Da greatest city....fawk dats a yuuuge rat! I tawt it was gunna bite me, I almost stepped in dat puddle uh piss. Gawd I love dis town."
😂😂😂
If i ever get a chance to leave NY i won't miss it!
Giuliani funded the police and got it relatively safe for a while I thought?
LMFAOOO
“Yuuuge”😂
Was he standing on line when he saw that?
Once they removed Stabler, the show lost it's charm... for you see
Stabler...
Stabler was a Family Guy.
Also, between him and Olivia, he was always the _Stabler_ one.
I will see myself out.
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChineseAyyyyyeee! 👉👉 (Finger guns)
You could say that Stapler held the script together.
that’s when i stopped watching. i mean ive seen a few episodes since but….all terrible lmaooo
To be honest, I am glad Stablers' gone. He is a cop who should have been put in jail a long time ago. He assaults and abuses his power. The show got better when he left. He stayed the same when he returned. I hope Organized Crime gets cancel.
Imagine if this guy cannibalized her partner:
"I'm white.I can get therapy! How can he get his favorite meal in jail!"
Olivia has become a shell of her former self (1-12) basically her when Stabler was around to bounce off of, her personality was rougher but gentle when NEEDED, meaning she was fair to others but remained vigilant to suspects and gave perps their due and fought like hell to make sure justice was done even if she lost at times outside her control or made mistakes
This Olivia now? She looks like her, she sounds like her…but she’s not her….younger Olivia would NEVER do this
Young Olivia would likely by PISSED at her future self, after everything she endured.
i hate this version of her like remember the episode with the cult and the guy who raped the young girl and basically murdered the girls father and brainwashed the mom? she was actually better in the episode and didnt protect rapists this olivia sucks@@LissaChelle9002
Typo ahoy! Meant to say "be pissed.“
The most unrealistic part of this is that the police actually investigated this
No it's that they defended rape
That part bc only 6% of (reported) grapists go to prison and less than 1% received felony charges.
Yes. Defund the tv cops. Not the real cops and their police departments.
All I know is that not only SVU but also every single Law & Order spin-offs has a track record of taking actual cases and turning them into parody episodes; cases like the 2014 Slender Man stabbing case as they named the episode as "Glasgow's Wrath" (which I kid you not this episode was made months after the trial happened) and one episode that's a obvious hint of the Unabomber case. And there's even that one time the company, who made Law and Order shows, literally went out and said they were planning on making an episode based off the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard case and everybody went down their throat for it and rightfully so!
The company still has the freaking nerve to go out of their way to make some BS statement in the beginning of every episode lying about the episodes were not based off of actual cases.
Dragnet--the show, not the movie--did use real cases that took place. But Jack Webb was an actually intelligent man who had respect for human beings, and didn't make stuff up to score points on strawmen. You could disagree with his takes on things, but he wasn't going to lie to make a point.
How about that episode they did to parody the Epstein situation? even did the whole "cameras not working, guards sleeping" BS, and then when he "did the deed" they acted like it was not only entirely possible, with no foul play involved, they wrote it off as "good, one less creep in the world" meanwhile, he was going to name fingers and point names, they didn't care about the people he was going to give up, it felt like a big "shut up you conspricacy theorists, he did do it to himself, no questions, end of statement" type of episode.
@@FeralChaos2012 Exactly
I remember the one where the combined Travon Martin and Paula Deen saying the n-word into an episode. And ofc “they leveled up.”
I remember the episode about the Castro case. That was ballsy. And shite.
There’s more of those episodes than you’d think; Casey Anthony, Elizabeth Smart, Natalee Holloway, JonBenet Ramsey.. the list goes on. I always found it distasteful how they’d twist the facts, not just a little, but blow it out of the water for dramatic effect, contrivance and sometimes a “happy ending”
I always wondered how they get away with it, everyone knows who the episodes are about.
These writers have no clue how actual cops do their job anymore…. Like do you think there was even a candy wrapper that a crime scene tech wouldn’t collect?
I am going to share what I wrote on another post about this episode. When the woman said that she could afford therapy, a great writer would have had the detective respond “Your therapy will not help the next woman he attacks if she even survives.”
Having someone use NY's one party consent laws to secretly record her confessing would've made this far more complex and interesting, since it would be another violation-not of her rights but of her trust. Then we could've had a whole debate about whether or not the pursuit of justice supercedes the personal feelings of the victim.
But instead we got this.
They relied on that pretty hevily for a while, though - that was part of what ruined the show for me. They put Olivia through a character arc where she was doing more and more creepy and violating things to victims and inserting herself or her beliefs into their personal lives.
You know for a fact that any writer in the position of the female character in this show would be screaming for justice and for the police to do more. The police have a terrible enough job already without these kind of writers making them look even worse. These writers wouldn't be able to handle a single day in the life of your average city police officer.
As for the story itself, I do not care what kind of person you are or what you look like. If you do something horrid to another human being then you have forsaken any possible sympathy I could have. Your actions are your responsibility. Good god morality in story telling is beyond disgusting. Imagine any real life victim watching this episode. Writers should be disgusted with themselves.
We all knew that "GO HOME GAMUR GURL" was just a warning of whats to come.
Or that one even older episode where they try to make a gun maker company to pay for dakages when a dude mowed down people in a park with a semi-auto-turned-full-auto pistol.
22:56 I had this exact same reaction when watching this episode. All I could think, as a victim of sexual assault/rape, was how the fuck can they even begin to rationalize or justify his actions in the 11th hour. This whole episode erased the actual trauma experienced by rape victims to virtue signal. SVU fell off & the message they’re espousing is fucking disrespectful to rape survivors!
>SVU
"It's been 3,000 years..."
I found out about this episode from Misha Petrov's video on it, and no joke, I was so speechless I could barely fit words together.
I love Misha's vids!
Same
Same
13:52 I'm female. I've never bought or tried on a swim suit at a store. (Isn't it crazy unhygienic and unsafe to wear one without keeping your normal underwear on?) Because of that I had no frikkin clue they had those liners until this video. So ignorance of it isn't limited to a specific gender. It's if you ever tried on a swimsuit at a store. Maybe the female tech has never learned to swim. So that's a lot of sexist bs. Do men not have hygiene liners for speedos, boardshorts, and other tight swimwear?
As a man, I've never seen any sanitary liners in swimsuits at a store. But then... I have a crippling fear of water and refuse to learn how to swim, I'll just stay far far away from it thank you
It has always been my experience that one is not permitted to try on swimwear.
Woman here and I've never seen those either . . . however, _anything_ in that dressing room would've been bagged and tagged as evidence. If the button off someone's shirt had fallen off during the robbery and had rolled into that dressing room, even that would've been seen as potential evidence.
I've tried on swimsuits in stores. I _never_ take my underwear off to do so. There's simply no good reason to- it's not like the suit will fit any differently without them. Why would anyone risk exposing their nether regions to some random stranger's coochie funk just to try on some clothing? Sounds like a good way to get an STI.
Not only that, but those strips don't even cover all of the swimsuit crotch. It's a thin little strip. Even if it kills whatever pathogens come into contact with it, there's like 75% of the surface area left unprotected.
I don’t have genitals so I wouldn’t know
This entire episode sounds like it was written by someone with purple hair 🤦♂️
Could you imagine actually being in an SVU writers room now?! I'd be rolling my eyes so hard my whole body would turn inside out through my eyelids.
If you're wrong, it's only because they have blue hair.
We accept your confession J.
The show became crap as soon as Stabler left.
This!
And even When he cameback It WAs just dumb
Amaro and barba were doing their best to hold the torch but sadly they got kicked too
As someone who binged SVU during covid from season 1 to like season 20, the shift in writing, topics tackled, and overall tact on subject matters was DRAMATIC. The show got very preachy and handled so many "current topics" like a college freshman would.
I also really fucking hated the shift in the kinds of vicitms. As a man who has survived SA, I had a sense of catharsis when male vicitims were depicted. I also resonated with some of the female victims. But now its massively skewed and its always the "the same kind" of female victim depicted and it's boring listening to the detectives bend over backwards to spout what I would call "woke rhetoric" sorry, rant over.
Don’t apologize! It honestly feels like a betrayal when stuff like that happens in a long-running, once good series. This ideology makes people blot out like 90 percent of visible reality and squeeze everything into that teeny little system they got going. I think that is why the art is almost always so bad-it’s not allowed to have nuance or spiritual complexity. Some things have a dab of “woke” and are still good, but “you never go full woke” 😂
@@elusivemayfly7534 Ugh this is exactly what it feels like. And I do think the term woke is overused so I try to avoid it but damn, SVU really did go full woke. J even said it, the dialogue is so expository and heavy with words. Like what happened to the quick wit of the 90s and early 00s? Benson and Tutuoola used to be sharp with their comebacks.
It's so sad to see what the show has become. There's one episode where there was a black kid who was falsely accused and was then burned and lynched in the halfway house. There was a funeral for both the victim and the boy and it was such a powerful scene and the show completely ruined it by having ICE-T say some asinine on the nose shit as if we, the viewer, didn't understand what was happening.
@@GrecianWarlock Well said! That scene sounds like a powerful example. I’m sorry you lost a good story, especially one that gave you some consolation.
I wish we had another word for “woke,” too. I’m not against progressives necessarily and lean left on some things myself. It’s this parasite that seems to be feeding on progressivism I don’t like. Authoritarian and ultimately dehumanizing.
@@elusivemayfly7534 You are saying literally everything that I feel. 😂 I consider myself left of center person. But this agenda ish is out of control. And thankfully I have the older seasons to revisit whenever I need that catharsis
@@GrecianWarlock Lol! That gives me hope that there are more of us than we imagine! 😄
"If you're grown enough to storm a police department, you're grown enough to get shot in the A@#". Greatest quote ever.
This was shocking. My only reference to SVU was the gamergate episode that's been memed to hell and back, so I was expecting it to be bad. Considering the leftist themes in aforementioned episode, the racism didn't surprise me. However, I was shocked the r apology.
"He leveled up...but hes black so it's cool"
I can't believe this actually aired. They should be ashamed.
“They leveled up”
John SVU
Din do noddin "before i did this, i felt invisible"
Me: trust me dude, in jail your ass ain't gonna be invisible for long. Especially when the other convicts find out what you did
its "nuffin" I beleive....
@@thac0twenty377 my bad. Ebonics isn't exactly my top language. Cuz I'm smart lol
"I don't want the guy that violently raped me to face any consequences, cause I can afford therapy" is one hell of a hot-take. Any future rapes, murders, assaults this guy now does are on Lady Jesus' hands.
And for that matter, this episode has it entirely backwards and the way they handle the victim is despicable. So what's the takeaway? Just accept being violated, cause the one violating you might suffer negative consequences to his own actions?
Adam Smith put it best: Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
20:40 Didn't she just get done telling those cops about how the slippery slope drove her brother into a life of crime?
What the cops should have said is 'how do you know that a group smash and grab at a clothes store that turned into a rape isn't going to escalate into a murder if we don't punish this kid in some way?'
No one was making the kid do the group smash and grab at a clothes store that turned into a rape. He chose to do that on his own.
All Law & Order has some unbelievable shit to it. L&O OG is ridiculously draconian compared to real life, L&O Criminal Intent gives Vincent Donfrio a hilarious amount of leeway that no cop would ever (legally) get, and SVU has always had an issue that I can sum up with one phrase: "It's not your fault."
I caught a recent episode and... damn. It made me realize that SVU might have single-handedly ruined the average American female psyche (ages 22-53)
No, that'd be a combination of (1) leftist "education" and (2) "haha, religion, amirite?"
Current detective dramas are generally more insidious than the cape-hero cringe candy, because they are aimed at women and more sly and faux moderate with their issue framing.
This episode seems a more clumsy example. Like with Davies' Indoctrination Who, it seems to be attempting to manufacture a synthesis between the old and new norms, with bizarre and dissonant results.
@@doxasticdraco9990 100% agreed. So clumsy that is becomes so dissonant that anyone who hasn't already been inundated in it for years can't help but see it as the farcical shitshow that it is. I'm convinced that both the writers and the fans they've somehow retained are just suffering from "frog in boiling water" syndrome. If you were to force them to go cold turkey on SVU for two or three months and then showed them one of the newest episodes, they might just snap out of it entirely..... maybe
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese 100%
You can see how deluded some of these viewers have become when watching anything related to True Crime or investigations on YT.
Undoubtedly, you will have a brood of women trying to play psychoanalyst and pretend to be Stabler for 45 minutes. Everything is attributed to whatever political hot topic is trending at the moment.
It is genuinely concerning when you realize that these people may have Jury Duty one day.
Lets not forget that mariska is one of the producers of this show, she read the script and approved
She probably wrote it under a pseudonym.
"they're down to four people" DRAG EM J
SVU was at its best when Olivia had a Karen haircut
Bruh I miss the Season 3 haircut so much, it was peak butch Olivia and I was totally there for it.
That was when most of the good characters were still there, and when Olivia was an MFing *boss* who didn't take no crap from nobody
@@I_am_always_correct Back before the glamification... and before the destruction of Alexandra Cabot's character after season 5 and on that other show, Conviction.
Lady J was so woke she probably cleaned the gooch off the floor.
Fun fact: Detective Munch appeared as Detective Munch in The X-Files, which means that Homicide Life on the Street and the wider Law and Order universe exists in the same universe as X-Files...which the implications of that are wild.
And it's all a dream of some guy from a show in the 80s, isn't that right?
The season finale of St. Elsewhere.
Spoiler alert just kidding cause this show ended in the '80s
The whole show was a dream.
@@theresawilson1206 that's the one. A handful of crossovers mean that dozens of shows all take place in that guy's dreams. Which is entertaining to me.
Excuse meWUT
Also arrested development
This reminds me of an old episode of CSI where a bunch of teens would get together to steal from tourists since the show took place in Las Vegas. They would then beat up the victims. They all got arrested however there was a scene at the end where all the main characters gave their thoughts on why these teens chose this life of crime for e.g. poor economic status, terrible home life, peer pressure. Like at the end of the day, you did the crime, you do the time but I liked that they discussed that some teens can have a tough life but that doesn't excuse them from the law.
I recall that episode included a scene where one of the supporting characters stopped an attack and ran one of teens down with his vehicle, killing the attacker. Said teen was black and was charging after him with a brick in hand. There was a subplot later in the season where the teen's mom and older brother sued the CSI character for wrongful death (I think), claiming the deceased didn't do nothing. And this was years before Michael Brown.
@@889654 You're right, I forgot that was a subplot as well
I remember loving that episode when I was younger. They did a good job of showing it as unfortunate and tragic and the family is lashing out.@@889654
Same J. I used to be a mega fan too then the GaMeR gAtE episode happened and I stopped watching.
Is that the episode that used Femoid?
"They leveled up."
😵
@@silverscorpio24”imma need that link.”
Even ice t WAs like “”why tf AM i doing this “
H3H3 made a great video about that episode, before...
SVU was good in its earlier seasons, but when Christopher Meloni left, and Benson was put in charge, it became unbearably woke/feminist.
I don't watch it anymore, it's unbelievably pathetic now.
Meloni actually did some really fun stuff after SVU too. The first season of Happy is goofy as hell but he's awesome in it, and it's fun and charming in it's own way. I recommend.
Yeah, SVU is like The Simpsons- good in it's earlier seasons but it's gone on way past it's expiration date.
Well why is that bad? I keep hearing the word "woke" or "feminist" to describe something, but I never hear why that is bad. And then people complain that they're being called misogynists or racists. Well can you blame people for calling you that?
@@houseofthesupermen377 The show's babing a criminal and treat him like he's a victim, because he's black. If he was a white boy, the whole scrpit would be completely different. It's practicing victim blaming towards rape victims.
@houseofthesupermen377 I mean did you watch the video
Remember, guys, this is what _normie_ liberals actually believe. Not just the crazy blue-hairs, the _normies._
No 💩, they put it on primetime television. They are promoting it!
People frequently get confused and think it's all the far-lefties pushing it and that the "sensible" center-lefties are just too cowardly to openly oppose them.
@@mentalphilanthropist35
no. it isn't.
Actions speak louder that words @@thac0twenty377
In my experience, no. Many normie liberals where I live are "90's crime bill" types, probably because of the high meth abuse in the region. They do want weed normalized, though, which separates them from many Republicans. The few leftists hate the centrist liberals, they almost seem to think they are Republicans in disguise.
The local Republicans aren't entirely made up of their most radical wing either, though the leftists seem to believe all of them are radical neo-Nazi types.
Stockholm Syndrome needs a new symptom, the urge to advocate
Wow, I knew about the white lady not ID'ing the black guy, but I didn't know about all the rest of it. Jeeeeeeeez...
later on this season we will learn that Lady Jesus is pregnant and the 2 woman are going to keep the baby and allow visitation in prison to the Rapist
Wow, I'm sure that baby will be okay with visiting their daddy who traumatized their mama. That's what a kid needs! 🙃
In real life, the young scholar they show mercy to often goes on to re-offend and usually that includes deleting a person or two.
NOT EBONY AND IVORY OH MY GOD I'M DYING
When Christopher Meloni left, I left with him. The moment Stabler left the show it went downhill from there and I'm glad I gave up on it.
He was my favourite character
I will never tire of seeing Homer's Gorge Fall being used an example of downhill quality.
This is what we get with activist instead of real seasoned WRITERS.
The writing made my blood boil. I can't believe this got greenlit.
It's hilarious how often in the old episodes they would throw around the word 'tranny'. How things change.
That’s especially funny because they’re trying SO HARD to be woker than anyone else, and they’re probably this close to having the Twitter mob screech and cancel their show lmao
Actual victims must appreciate this episode endlessly -.-'
As a victim of rape, the fact she'd allow more victims to be victimized is disgusting. I don't say I'm a survivor because it almost implies that I'm thriving, which I'm not. I have severe PTSD. I hope women like this don't exist.
"I'll be ok,.. I have the luxury of therapy" said no victim ever! 😲
I NEEEEED to know if they've tackled the issue of women who sexually violate kids. Cause since they went this far over Afro-centric sympathy for an effin sexual violator, how far would they go for a woman who acted on her lust for a kid?!
There are a few. Funnily enough it's the older seasons and episodes. Heck they even tackled a rape and murder of a man by three women in the early seasons.
@@oliviastanford-robertson465 Earlier seasons. Are you saying L&O: SVU stopped making episodes highlighting victims of women? If so, WTF?! Documented cases of women who violate kids has only gotten worse. To the point where nearly every week, we get one to multiple revelations of such women.
Now, I do remember that episode where a woman was meeting with a boy student of hers for inappropriate activity. But it was written where it wasn't "her fault" cause she had a growth in her brain that made her uncontrollably hypersexual (apparently, based on some real man who had that issue). I *hated* that being the case, cause I was looking for shows/movies based on the women who do not have that, and still violate kids.
@@VDOTU5 There was a few during Nick Amaro seasons where there was a female teacher abusing a student, a mother abusing her daughters, even a teenage girl plotting the assault and murder of a young romani boy. The episode that urks me the most are the two girls that falsley accuse a music teacehr of rape and have him lose his job and reputation but thy get off scott free because their kids and "it'd be cruel to put them through the trauma" .
They even had a story inspired by Gypsy Rose.
But they sort of fizzled out after that. You can count the episodes on one hand.
@@oliviastanford-robertson465 I see. Thank you for this info.
My favorite Law and Order character is the Catholic man who is about ten minutes from beating one of the various sex offenders to death.
I will not elaborate on which of the 3 or so versions of this exact character that I mean.
A woman is violently assaulted but it’s ok because she can deal with the trauma; she is privileged enough to pay for her own therapy. Won’t someone please think of the poor rapist, though?
What is this nonsense?
Next victim might not be so wealthy.
It's called Liberal hollywood, where have you been? 😂
I feel like this is giving those woke DA's in real life ideas - Oh you're stealing less than $500? No charges, Oh you assaulted someone who under our new victim's means testing scheme can afford a therapist? No charges.
Stoppp bc this shit happens in real life. College kid, white though, violently graped a passed out woman, 2 men witnessed the event and got him off of her. In court the judge gave a reduced sentence bc he’s a young athlete. Brock turner. Given 6 months of jail time, released after 3 for good behavior.
@@smokeyskeet1694 That's some jail time and a criminal record, the other was scott free no jail no record. You need a better analogue.
This episode is a farce of criminal justice.
_Fuck's sake_ , I somehow thought _Law and Order_ of all shows, could not contract the Woke Mind Virus.
Right? Its message is simple: grape bad!
Thank you for providing some much-needed laughter over this, because honestly, this is some of the ghastliest shit I've ever seen on TV.
The narrative-peddlers are getting waaaaaaaay too comfortable, if they think they can emotionally manipulate wine moms into excusing rape because of the guy's race.
"...if they think..."
Darlin', they KNOW they can...it already happens.
P.S. - Love the OG Hobbit movie avatar.
I know, I know. I'm just tired to live out the book of Revelation, so I fell into wishful thinking for an instant
Also thank you, that Hobbit movie is still the best adaptation we ever got ^^
My ex-wife used to watch SVU while I was playing Destiny. I never really liked it, but I said little because she enjoyed it and it wasn't really bothering me. The only time I openly said something in frustration was when they openly shit on Rush Limbaugh and other right wing show hosts; it wasn't a criticism of their style or their point, no, it was just some "hurr hurr right wing _bad"_ and a point that was completely false.
I'm also reminded of a cold open to one episode that was accidentally based: A young couple that clearly just met at a bar returned to her place for a night of adult merriment, and they're asking things about each other as they make out. She eventually asks his politics, and he says, "Republican." She stops kissing him and is clearly turned off, and he's annoyed by this. I thought he was going to attack her, but instead he notices the victim of the show, and the episode starts from there. Good job on showing how shallow democrats are! -Just like my ex-wife and ex-girlfriend! God forbid we have different world views!-
Lol stay triggered incel. I'll take Stories that never happened for 500 Alex!
I facepalmed at the episode where they had three white dudes go after an indian woman. Because she dared to make a video game.