Our longest BT episode to date! Jake, The Muslim Metaphysician, delivers a thorough and scholarly examination of the beliefs of early church fathers concerning the Trinity. This poses very serious implications for Trinitarian Christians who need to explain why their most prominent early church fathers did not share their post-Nicean views on the Trinity. A must watch!
1Corinthians 8:6 "But to us, there is one God. The Father OF WHOM ARE ALL THINGS. and Jesus Christ the Lord, BY WHOM ARE ALL THINGS". The Father is the Body from whence Jesus and the Holyghost came out. Jesus said it. John 16:27, John 15:26 Man is Body, Soul and Spirit.
We need to support our du’aat at the front line of work against anti Muslim polemics. Seven hours of presenting what must of taken years of high level research with not a penny asked for. When it comes to Christianity, there no one quite like brother Jake. Absolute gem to our community
Allah swt is the most merciful and most forgiving may Allah swt guide to Islam and forgive all you sins make you go jannat al firadus highest rank of heaven and you family and friends as well may Allah swt guide them both and you aswell Ameen❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This channel us a gem mashallah. I always wanted to study this at a post grad level but was never able to. Through Paul's work and this channel we are getting access to alot of these debates and discussions that were usually confined to academic circles
@proud_saracen If people had a hard copy in hand, they could learn much better and take notes if need be. The short attention spans are usually due to a learning disability, which is most common in the younger generations like Gen Z and Gen Alpha. They predominately excel in visual learning, not auditory.
The amount of time, searching for materials and analysing it at this level is phenomenal. Seven hours of pure academic endeavour presented so well and clear. Thank you so much. May Allah bless you my dear brother 🤲.
@tymon1928 Precisely. Might be old arguments but to gather all those arguments spread over the hundreds of years is already baffling enough not to mention making sense of it and presenting in such a coherent and clear manner is not an ordinary feat. Listening to this for seven hours straight tells you how good the explanation of his findings was. Only a highly inquisitive analytical mind and an exceptional articulate person can reach this level of awareness to explain the already complex arguments mostly hidden from public investigation until the internet is available. Even that is time consuming and requires incredible mind stamina.
@@uncledan2u nah, there's multi fold problem. Jake cherry picks and quote mines church fathers to make them go in line with his position, he was caught doing it multiple times.
@@tymon1928He was never caught cherrypicking verses. And he didn’t do that here either. Nowhere in this 7hr video did he cherrypick a single verse. All he did was expand on every single quotation he brought from scholars, while applying context to them. If you don’t like the academic approach, then go ahead and create a new one for us while you’re refuting his claims instead of yapping around in the comment section.
Jazakallahu khair to brother jake for really digging in to this subject on such depth. This channel is so informative we dearly appreciate you Paul jazakallahu khair
So glad I found your channel months ago, though I don’t always have time to sit on TH-cam but always happy to see your uploads, I don’t even like watching tv shows and movies anymore because this is so so much more precious and worth my time! جزاك الله خيراً 🤲🏻🤲🏻
@@isaacjohnson615Did Allah mentions the Trinity in the Glorious Qur’an? If you’re not a deceiving Christian, then show me the verse in the Glorious Qur’an that CLEARLY says the word TRINITY. Show us you’re truthful and not a Satan.
@@Holistic_Islam Quran 4:171 This is a very popular verse, yet you don't know it. 🥹 I advice you to watch CHRISTIAN PRINCE youtube regularly. He will open your eyes to so many texts in Quran and Sahih Hadith that will shock you. And make you realise it's a cult.
May Allah bless you Jake! This is fantastic presentation! Very educative. When the true belief is revealed definitely the false belief will go away! And say, truth has come and falsehood has departed. In deed is folsehood, (by nature) ever bound to depart. (Qu'ran 17:81).
As-Salamu Alaykum Paul! You’re channel is so amazing and a captivating asset to all seekers of knowledge. Keep up the great work! I’m trying to spread your videos to Arab-only speakers in the Muslim/Arab world, as I think they’d benefit immensely from joining your audience. Do you happen to have Arabic subtitles for the videos you do with various scholars such as Dr. Ali Ataie? If not, is that something we can hopefully anticipate in the near future?
I hope you all the inner peace you deserve to feel ..I was born in Islam , though I am not that religious but I think it is what give me inner peace in lots of situations .
LOL omg SEVEN hours?!? This is why BT is BT. Edit: amazing work so far. Five hours to go. Edit: this honestly could’ve been an entire course. Kudos to Brother Jake for the masterclass.
I noticed the 7 hour time on it. I thought maybe i saw wrong. MashaAllah! I like how Jake says, make sure you have a coffee, strap your seatbelt 😂. I notice that some people panic when they see that its a long video. I just pause and continue when i can. As im cooking, driving, etc. Even if it takes me 3 days to finish the video. Its like an audiobook. Thank you wonderful brothers for all your hard work ❤.
A real master piece, have 2½ hrs, a rest to continue. Thanks Paul, it is real academic work very much enlightening, especially for people like us who have not been exposed to much of Christian theology. Now we understand the statements like: they took too much liberty with the texts. They put their words in his lips/mouth. Billions have been misled.
@@eszeezee6967 I work in IT so basically I spend most of my day answering emails and tickets. Its the only time I will have to watch it in full without interruption.
Breathtakingly informative - a subject that is difficult to grasp and even more so to explain, except in broad mono or trinity approaches. The Logos or Word is still something I can’t quite have a firm understanding of. Maybe a possible future episode?
Salam. Could you do a video on the Early Muslim society and how they treated law making and narrations? I think it would do for a very interesting discussion. Peace
AS salaamu alaykum, only 61 comments 200some odd likes no sir brother Paul we have to get Mr. Jake he's the east coast jakey deedat people in the audience notice 7hours I don't think we have had one like this, this is your brother from The Bronx NYC THE NEW AL FANDALUS!!!! Not Andalus that's spanglish
Our longest BT episode to date! Jake, The Muslim Metaphysician, delivers a thorough and scholarly examination of the beliefs of early church fathers concerning the Trinity. This poses very serious implications for Trinitarian Christians who need to explain why their most prominent early church fathers did not share their post-Nicean views on the Trinity. A must watch!
U are a scholar like guy.....
Paul you should break this up into clips that are more manageable given the time contained societies we live in. Thanks.
1Corinthians 8:6 "But to us, there is one God. The Father OF WHOM ARE ALL THINGS. and Jesus Christ the Lord, BY WHOM ARE ALL THINGS".
The Father is the Body from whence Jesus and the Holyghost came out. Jesus said it. John 16:27, John 15:26
Man is Body, Soul and Spirit.
trinity doesn't exist
It was much needed. Thanks for hosting.
We need to support our du’aat at the front line of work against anti Muslim polemics. Seven hours of presenting what must of taken years of high level research with not a penny asked for. When it comes to Christianity, there no one quite like brother Jake. Absolute gem to our community
Allah swt is the most merciful and most forgiving may Allah swt guide to Islam and forgive all you sins make you go jannat al firadus highest rank of heaven and you family and friends as well may Allah swt guide them both and you aswell Ameen❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thought it was 7 minutes at first then had to double take when I realised it was 7 hours. Jazak Allah brothers
7 hours incredible work. Masha’Allah
This channel us a gem mashallah. I always wanted to study this at a post grad level but was never able to. Through Paul's work and this channel we are getting access to alot of these debates and discussions that were usually confined to academic circles
My thoughts exactly.Maa shaa Allah for the excellent effort.🤝
I'm strapping in. This will be fantastic!
7 hour education!
The longer the better!
For free
Jake needs to write a book on just this topic
Listening > reading
@sitiqoniah4956 People have different learning styles. Not everyone is an auditory learner.
I think he should consider that
@@enigmaticalmystery4647 I mean now days most people can not even read books, attention spams are too low.
@proud_saracen If people had a hard copy in hand, they could learn much better and take notes if need be. The short attention spans are usually due to a learning disability, which is most common in the younger generations like Gen Z and Gen Alpha. They predominately excel in visual learning, not auditory.
real upscale knowledge here for christians to learn and reflect upon. may Allah ﷻ guide the sincere believers to benefit from this! 🤲🏻 ameen.
Such a great effort. Watching it a second time now. I wish people were more aware of this kind of knowledge. Thank you all for trying to spread it.
This is pure gold! Thank you so much and God bless you all!
7 hours of knowledge
7 hours - wow! Mash'Allah, Jake's content is always very informative. Thanks for having him on the channel 🙏
This channel is sooo underrated
Wellahi Wellahi .May Allah increase you
Brother Jake has a wealth of knowledge in this subject.
But still he does not understand the truth . Fails to see the point of christ
The amount of time, searching for materials and analysing it at this level is phenomenal. Seven hours of pure academic endeavour presented so well and clear. Thank you so much. May Allah bless you my dear brother 🤲.
You do realize that majority of the stuff covered is from christian unitarians right? Jake is repeating old arguments
@tymon1928
Precisely. Might be old arguments but to gather all those arguments spread over the hundreds of years is already baffling enough not to mention making sense of it and presenting in such a coherent and clear manner is not an ordinary feat.
Listening to this for seven hours straight tells you how good the explanation of his findings was. Only a highly inquisitive analytical mind and an exceptional articulate person can reach this level of awareness to explain the already complex arguments mostly hidden from public investigation until the internet is available. Even that is time consuming and requires incredible mind stamina.
@@uncledan2u nah, there's multi fold problem. Jake cherry picks and quote mines church fathers to make them go in line with his position, he was caught doing it multiple times.
@@tymon1928 if cherry picking is problems then there are contradictions. if not cherry picking, how we can quote whole bibles?
@@tymon1928He was never caught cherrypicking verses. And he didn’t do that here either. Nowhere in this 7hr video did he cherrypick a single verse. All he did was expand on every single quotation he brought from scholars, while applying context to them. If you don’t like the academic approach, then go ahead and create a new one for us while you’re refuting his claims instead of yapping around in the comment section.
Jazakallahu khair to brother jake for really digging in to this subject on such depth. This channel is so informative we dearly appreciate you Paul jazakallahu khair
May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.
I listened for 7hrs straight during my shift at work, Jazakum Allah Kayran Jake and Blogging Theology
So glad I found your channel months ago, though I don’t always have time to sit on TH-cam but always happy to see your uploads, I don’t even like watching tv shows and movies anymore because this is so so much more precious and worth my time! جزاك الله خيراً 🤲🏻🤲🏻
We all love you for that work ❤️ barakhuallahfeek brother I really appreciate all the work behind that
Just awesome! I am enjoying every minute of it 🙂
Salamu Alaykom. Thank you brother Paul for posting this gem.
wa alaikum assalam it's outstanding work by brother Jake
This was excellent! Jake delivered a very informative and detailed PowerPoint. Please do keep uploading content like this Paul!
7 hours. Wow. May Allah bless you Jake, Bassam and Paul and the whole team. Aameen
This will be great to listen to on the weekend.
Mashallah may Allah increase your knowledge my dear ❤❤❤
Wow this is amazing information … I’m 2 hours in but I think I need to break this up into segments… so much info… I need time to digest it all!
Jake is the Man when it comes to debunking the Trinity, Alhamdulillah!
Who are the Trinity gods according to Allah?
@@isaacjohnson615
Allah had sex with another mans wife and gave birth to Mohamad who was born with a long beard. This is in the Koran.
@@isaacjohnson615Did Allah mentions the Trinity in the Glorious Qur’an? If you’re not a deceiving Christian, then show me the verse in the Glorious Qur’an that CLEARLY says the word TRINITY. Show us you’re truthful and not a Satan.
@@Holistic_Islam Quran 4:171
This is a very popular verse, yet you don't know it. 🥹
I advice you to watch CHRISTIAN PRINCE youtube regularly. He will open your eyes to so many texts in Quran and Sahih Hadith that will shock you. And make you realise it's a cult.
As Salaam Alaikum. This should be turn into a course on early Christianity and Church Fathers by brother Jake
Masha Allah! I can listen to Brother Jake for many many hours! Masha Allah!
Great to see Ustadh Bassam back after a long hiatus!
what an amazing episode on the history of the #Bible
I watch the entire presentation, it's so educative
May Allah bless you Jake! This is fantastic presentation! Very educative. When the true belief is revealed definitely the false belief will go away! And say, truth has come and falsehood has departed. In deed is folsehood, (by nature) ever bound to depart. (Qu'ran 17:81).
BarakAllahoufik for your amazing work brother Jake
Jazak Allah khair brother Jake .
So insightful, thank you.
SEVEN HOURS?! At least give me a chance to get distracted by *some* nonsense for the next few days! =P Thanks for this monumental video!
Trumendous work !! Explained so clearly 👏 👏 👏 Jazakum Allah Khair . Thank you for organising this topic.
As-Salamu Alaykum Paul!
You’re channel is so amazing and a captivating asset to all seekers of knowledge. Keep up the great work!
I’m trying to spread your videos to Arab-only speakers in the Muslim/Arab world, as I think they’d benefit immensely from joining your audience.
Do you happen to have Arabic subtitles for the videos you do with various scholars such as Dr. Ali Ataie? If not, is that something we can hopefully anticipate in the near future?
My 12 year old daughter just said that im a fan boy of Paul…..I was thinking “damn right I am”
7 hours! I'm travelling from the US to UK tomorrow... looks like I'm going to download for the trip!
I hope you all the inner peace you deserve to feel ..I was born in Islam , though I am not that religious but I think it is what give me inner peace in lots of situations .
Wow. Deep dive into a fascinating topic.
Thank you, gentlemen.
May Allah bless brother Jake with barakah upon barakah. He is shining light for the ummah, Alhamdulillah. May this be a Sadaqah Jariyah for him ameen!
I watch 1 hour of this everyday since yesterday but jakes eloquence and clarity makes you wanna watch it all at once.
LOL omg SEVEN hours?!? This is why BT is BT.
Edit: amazing work so far. Five hours to go.
Edit: this honestly could’ve been an entire course. Kudos to Brother Jake for the masterclass.
💯🤝🏻
I noticed the 7 hour time on it. I thought maybe i saw wrong. MashaAllah!
I like how Jake says, make sure you have a coffee, strap your seatbelt 😂.
I notice that some people panic when they see that its a long video.
I just pause and continue when i can. As im cooking, driving, etc.
Even if it takes me 3 days to finish the video. Its like an audiobook.
Thank you wonderful brothers for all your hard work ❤.
A real master piece, have 2½ hrs, a rest to continue. Thanks Paul, it is real academic work very much enlightening, especially for people like us who have not been exposed to much of Christian theology. Now we understand the statements like: they took too much liberty with the texts. They put their words in his lips/mouth. Billions have been misled.
Subhan Allah 7 hours long stream..😅
I thought it must be an error 😅
@@imranmo nope!
Keep up the great work.
Wow Paul, my big question for a year now explain here. It feel you can read my mind,,, 🔥🔥🔥
Happy to help!
7 Hours crazy! May Allah reward for your efforts.
Blogging Theology uploaded new video, i click it. Love from India Sir Paul. 🇵🇸 #Freepalestine
Alhamdulillah . Jazzakumullahu khoiron katsiiroo
This is a treat 👍🏽
I am prepared to watch😊
Amazing ❤
Uuhhuuu
I missed this one, thank you
7 hours wow. I will have to watch this at work.
Honest question, why watch this at work?
@@eszeezee6967 I work in IT so basically I spend most of my day answering emails and tickets. Its the only time I will have to watch it in full without interruption.
Selamun Aleyküm. When i see you i see hope and inspiraton. Elhamdülillah ❤
The Trinity concept took hundreds of years to develop - Prof Dr Keith Ward, Regis Prof at Cambridge University / priest at Church of England
Great job from brother Jake. Jazak allah Khairan
The best presentation MASHAALLAH
7 hours !!! Alhamdulillah
great infos provided by Jake
Breathtakingly informative - a subject that is difficult to grasp and even more so to explain, except in broad mono or trinity approaches. The Logos or Word is still something I can’t quite have a firm understanding of. Maybe a possible future episode?
The Jew Philo, who lived before and during the time Christ, identified the Logos as the Archangel and Firstborn of God.
For real 7 hrs? …. Can we get an exam afterwards?
Seriously!
I will get my notebook and lemon tea after the kids in bed.
finished listening
May Allah bless you and your efforts.
i usually don’t comment on videos but this work must brought forword. never stop your dawah my brothers in islam may Allah highly reward you
Colossal in both its length and significance. Well done gentlemen 👏🏻
May Allah reward you.
Masha'Allah ❤❤❤ ustadh jake
7hrs mashaAllah, that must be a record!
The more knowledge I gain, the more I realise:
I will never be capable of raking Christianity seriously ever again.
7 hours MashaAllah
After this a new nicean counsel, from The Bronx NYC THE NEW AL FANDALUS
Salam.
Could you do a video on the Early Muslim society and how they treated law making and narrations?
I think it would do for a very interesting discussion.
Peace
Woah 7 hours of content gonna be a long day guys
man 7 hours?? this is going to be a treat greeting from Indonesia
Brother Jake is brilliant maşallah
Doctrine of apostolic succession is like Shia doctrine of Imamiya SubhanAllah similar false believes.
this is a whole work shift 😭
Jake is on a roll.
Absolutely amazing. May Allah bless you all. What excuse do we have now? Non.lol
BarakAllahu Feekum!❤️🤲🏼🇵🇸
This is great.
He should do a long video on Sunni and Shia Hadith fabrications, and debunk blasphemy and apostasy laws and anti-woman Hadith.
Love Br Jake and his academic work. Its a gem to have him.
There may be a problem for apologists, because Mr. Jake is basing his views on logic and reason.
FANTASTIC
Thanks!
Many thanks!
New to channel found you on Substack
machaallah to both of you
AS salaamu alaykum, only 61 comments 200some odd likes no sir brother Paul we have to get Mr. Jake he's the east coast jakey deedat people in the audience notice 7hours I don't think we have had one like this, this is your brother from The Bronx NYC THE NEW AL FANDALUS!!!! Not Andalus that's spanglish
Documentary Theology 😎
Only 7 hours ❤
May Allah SWT bless you both
May Allah (SWT) accept all brother Jake's duas, efforts and supplications.!!!