I missed this preacher who had gone but he left recorded teachings. The late Dr. R.C. Sproul was learned from this beloved late professor for decades Dr. John Gerstner.
Gerstner's interpretation of the choosing of Matthias clashes with John Calvin's commentary on Acts 1:24-26 But for this cause did they use the casting of lots, that it might be known that Matthias was not only chosen by the voices of men, but also that he was made by the determination and judgment of God. For there was this difference between the apostles and the pastors, that the pastors were chosen simply by the Church, the apostles were called of God. In which respect Paul, in the preface of his Epistle to the Galatians, (Galatians 1:2,) doth profess himself to be an apostle, "neither of men, neither made by man." Therefore, like as the dignity of this function was excellent, so was it meet that in the choosing of Matthias, the chief judgment should be left unto God, howsoever men did their duty. Christ by his own mouth did appoint the rest; therefore, if Matthias had been chosen only by man to be one of them, he should have had less authority than they. This was very orderly done, [71] that the disciples should present unto God those whom they thought to be the best; and he should choose to himself whom he knew to be most fit, so that God, by the fall of the lot, doth pronounce that he did allow of the apostleship of Matthias. Therefore, although they were both of honest conversation, yea, although they did excel in holiness and other virtues, yet because the integrity of the heart, whereof God is the alone knower and judge, is the chief, the disciples pray that God would bring that to light which was hidden from men. "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) In that he addeth, that he was reckoned amongst the rest, he wipeth away all sinister note of rashness from the casting of lots, because the Church did embrace him as chosen by God on whom the lot fell.
Gerstner was not very careful when he says “the Son of God didn’t die” Jesus tells John in Rev. 1:18, “I was dead, and behold I am alive.” If the Son of God didn’t die our sins cannot be forgiven. Of course His soul/spirit did not die, just as ours don’t either when we die. But the Son of God did die, but before He lay down His life He committed His spirit to the Father. God cannot die, but humans can and do die. The problem is that you cannot split Jesus’ divine nature from the human. Jesus died the death that is possible for humans but not for God. (SilasJSantos)
It is scary to think that the apostles would fail to interpret Psalm 109:8, in Acts 1:20 and ask God to point out who would be His replacement for Judas, and God did not stop them. Anyway Sproul interprets that God ordains whatsoever comes to pass either by causing it to happen or by not stopping it from happening because anyway He wants it to happen. In this light, we may say that God ordained that Mathias replaced Judas and yet not contradict that Paul is counted among the twelve as we see 12, not 13 in Revelation. I am not saying that Gerstner is wrong but that it is a scary 😱 thought. We know that Peter made quite a few mistakes such as trying to stop Christ from going to Jerusalem to be crucified, tried to stop Jesus from washing his feet, was rebuked by Paul for acting hypocritically etc. But if they make such a mistake, how can we trust what they write? ... EDITED: PLEASE READ CALVIN COMMENTARY ON ACTS 1:24-26
Friend them is practical human mistakes. By Peter. Only God is sinless. And His Word without error. And as far as Psalm 109:8 is concerned they obeyed it. This guy John Gestner makes up things as he goes along.
What’s so scary about it? That human men make human mistakes? There’s nothing remarkable about that, but what you actually mean is that it is “scary” because you think if these men could err, then the scriptures they wrote could be in error as well. However, you misunderstand that only the words they wrote which were under inspiration would be without error, and those words that were without error were those words that they were giving to the church for instruction and teaching. That doesn’t mean that in their day to day living, even as apostles, they were without error, but that has always commonly been understood in the church to be the case. Gerstner subtly suggests that the apostles appointment of Matthias was merely a case where inspiration of the Holy Spirit was not part of the equation, which makes perfect sense considering it all took place BEFORE the Holy Spirit descended on them, NOT after.. the same Holy Spirit that Jesus promised would guide them in all truth. This also does not contradict the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy because Luke writes about this account in the historical narrative genre of writing, neither endorsing the act nor condemning it in his own commentary, but merely recording it as a historical event that definitely happened but only explaining the reasoning being used by the men who were involved.. be it sound or unsound reasoning. I see this as a perfectly legitimate interpretation of the passage that does not harm to the doctrine of innerancy nor the inspiration of the holy scriptures nor any doctrine of orthodoxy (indeed, it actually solves the “problem” of Paul being considered a 13th apostle.. and instead makes him the completion of the 12 apostles, with Matthias being an illegitimate appointee).
24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
@@jeff7888 24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
@@toughbiblepassages9082 From Calvin's Commentary on Acts 1:24-26 - ... But for this cause did they use the casting of lots, that it might be known that Matthias was not only chosen by the voices of men, but also that he was made by the determination and judgment of God. For there was this difference between the apostles and the pastors, that the pastors were chosen simply by the Church, the apostles were called of God. In which respect Paul, in the preface of his Epistle to the Galatians, (Galatians 1:2,) doth profess himself to be an apostle, "neither of men, neither made by man." Therefore, like as the dignity of this function was excellent, so was it meet that in the choosing of Matthias, the chief judgment should be left unto God, howsoever men did their duty. Christ by his own mouth did appoint the rest; therefore, if Matthias had been chosen only by man to be one of them, he should have had less authority than they. This was very orderly done, [71] that the disciples should present unto God those whom they thought to be the best; and he should choose to himself whom he knew to be most fit, so that God, by the fall of the lot, doth pronounce that he did allow of the apostleship of Matthias. Therefore, although they were both of honest conversation, yea, although they did excel in holiness and other virtues, yet because the integrity of the heart, whereof God is the alone knower and judge, is the chief, the disciples pray that God would bring that to light which was hidden from men. "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) In that he addeth, that he was reckoned amongst the rest, he wipeth away all sinister note of rashness from the casting of lots, because the Church did embrace him as chosen by God on whom the lot fell.
They did not take it upon themselves to choose some one to replace Judas, they were guided by the Holy Spirit. Psalm 109:8./Acts 1:20 'Let another take '. The Apostles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote. Nothing to do with Paul etc telling Mark what to write. 11sd Timothy 3:16-17. 11sd Peter 1:20-21. How could Paul be Matthias when Paul had never met the disciples for years. This guy makes things up as he goes along.
Dr. Gerstner, as any teacher, may get some things wrong or "not quite right". There is no human on Earth who knows all the truth of God's word absolutely, and that includes you. We all make mistakes in our interpretations. For you to refer to Dr. Gerstner, a very highly respected and greatly loved professor of theology as 'this guy" who "makes things up" is very disrespectful.
@@BeingRomans829ed When we teach God's Word, it's God's Word we should teach. God says test the spirits. That's what the Bereans did with Paul. Acts 17:10-12.
@@jeff7888 he teaches the gospel correctly. That's what matters. No one I know has NEVER made an error of some kind; but the gospel must remain unchanged. He was always faithful to the preaching of the gospel in its truth and entirety including repentance. This was not a sin against the Holy Spirit. We know in part on this side of things. There certainly are false teachers in our world but Dr. Gerstner isn't/wasn't one of them. He went home in 1996. I have no doubt where he went.
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Outstanding lecture..
Great teaching.
I missed this preacher who had gone but he left recorded teachings. The late Dr. R.C. Sproul was learned from this beloved late professor for decades Dr. John Gerstner.
Thanks for this!
Reminds me of RC
Gerstner's interpretation of the choosing of Matthias clashes with John Calvin's commentary on Acts 1:24-26
But for this cause did they use the casting of lots, that it might be known that Matthias was not only chosen by the voices of men, but also that he was made by the determination and judgment of God.
For there was this difference between the apostles and the pastors, that the pastors were chosen simply by the Church, the apostles were called of God. In which respect Paul, in the preface of his Epistle to the Galatians, (Galatians 1:2,) doth profess himself to be an apostle, "neither of men, neither made by man." Therefore, like as the dignity of this function was excellent, so was it meet that in the choosing of Matthias, the chief judgment should be left unto God, howsoever men did their duty. Christ by his own mouth did appoint the rest; therefore, if Matthias had been chosen only by man to be one of them, he should have had less authority than they. This was very orderly done, [71] that the disciples should present unto God those whom they thought to be the best; and he should choose to himself whom he knew to be most fit, so that God, by the fall of the lot, doth pronounce that he did allow of the apostleship of Matthias.
Therefore, although they were both of honest conversation, yea, although they did excel in holiness and other virtues, yet because the integrity of the heart, whereof God is the alone knower and judge, is the chief, the disciples pray that God would bring that to light which was hidden from men.
"The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.)
In that he addeth, that he was reckoned amongst the rest, he wipeth away all sinister note of rashness from the casting of lots, because the Church did embrace him as chosen by God on whom the lot fell.
Gerstner was not very careful when he says “the Son of God didn’t die” Jesus tells John in Rev. 1:18, “I was dead, and behold I am alive.” If the Son of God didn’t die our sins cannot be forgiven. Of course His soul/spirit did not die, just as ours don’t either when we die. But the Son of God did die, but before He lay down His life He committed His spirit to the Father. God cannot die, but humans can and do die. The problem is that you cannot split Jesus’ divine nature from the human. Jesus died the death that is possible for humans but not for God. (SilasJSantos)
It is scary to think that the apostles would fail to interpret Psalm 109:8, in Acts 1:20 and ask God to point out who would be His replacement for Judas, and God did not stop them. Anyway Sproul interprets that God ordains whatsoever comes to pass either by causing it to happen or by not stopping it from happening because anyway He wants it to happen. In this light, we may say that God ordained that Mathias replaced Judas and yet not contradict that Paul is counted among the twelve as we see 12, not 13 in Revelation. I am not saying that Gerstner is wrong but that it is a scary 😱 thought. We know that Peter made quite a few mistakes such as trying to stop Christ from going to Jerusalem to be crucified, tried to stop Jesus from washing his feet, was rebuked by Paul for acting hypocritically etc. But if they make such a mistake, how can we trust what they write? ... EDITED: PLEASE READ CALVIN COMMENTARY ON ACTS 1:24-26
Friend them is practical human mistakes. By Peter. Only God is sinless. And His Word without error. And as far as Psalm 109:8 is concerned they obeyed it. This guy John Gestner makes up things as he goes along.
What’s so scary about it? That human men make human mistakes? There’s nothing remarkable about that, but what you actually mean is that it is “scary” because you think if these men could err, then the scriptures they wrote could be in error as well. However, you misunderstand that only the words they wrote which were under inspiration would be without error, and those words that were without error were those words that they were giving to the church for instruction and teaching. That doesn’t mean that in their day to day living, even as apostles, they were without error, but that has always commonly been understood in the church to be the case. Gerstner subtly suggests that the apostles appointment of Matthias was merely a case where inspiration of the Holy Spirit was not part of the equation, which makes perfect sense considering it all took place BEFORE the Holy Spirit descended on them, NOT after.. the same Holy Spirit that Jesus promised would guide them in all truth. This also does not contradict the doctrine of Biblical inerrancy because Luke writes about this account in the historical narrative genre of writing, neither endorsing the act nor condemning it in his own commentary, but merely recording it as a historical event that definitely happened but only explaining the reasoning being used by the men who were involved.. be it sound or unsound reasoning. I see this as a perfectly legitimate interpretation of the passage that does not harm to the doctrine of innerancy nor the inspiration of the holy scriptures nor any doctrine of orthodoxy (indeed, it actually solves the “problem” of Paul being considered a 13th apostle.. and instead makes him the completion of the 12 apostles, with Matthias being an illegitimate appointee).
24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
@@jeff7888 24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen 25 to take the place in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.” 26 And they cast lots for them, and the lot fell on Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
@@toughbiblepassages9082
From Calvin's Commentary on Acts 1:24-26 - ... But for this cause did they use the casting of lots, that it might be known that Matthias was not only chosen by the voices of men, but also that he was made by the determination and judgment of God.
For there was this difference between the apostles and the pastors, that the pastors were chosen simply by the Church, the apostles were called of God. In which respect Paul, in the preface of his Epistle to the Galatians, (Galatians 1:2,) doth profess himself to be an apostle, "neither of men, neither made by man." Therefore, like as the dignity of this function was excellent, so was it meet that in the choosing of Matthias, the chief judgment should be left unto God, howsoever men did their duty. Christ by his own mouth did appoint the rest; therefore, if Matthias had been chosen only by man to be one of them, he should have had less authority than they. This was very orderly done, [71] that the disciples should present unto God those whom they thought to be the best; and he should choose to himself whom he knew to be most fit, so that God, by the fall of the lot, doth pronounce that he did allow of the apostleship of Matthias.
Therefore, although they were both of honest conversation, yea, although they did excel in holiness and other virtues, yet because the integrity of the heart, whereof God is the alone knower and judge, is the chief, the disciples pray that God would bring that to light which was hidden from men.
"The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.) "The lots (saith he) are cast into the bosom, and the judgment of them cometh forth from the Lord," (Proverbs 16:33.)
In that he addeth, that he was reckoned amongst the rest, he wipeth away all sinister note of rashness from the casting of lots, because the Church did embrace him as chosen by God on whom the lot fell.
They did not take it upon themselves to choose some one to replace Judas, they were guided by the Holy Spirit. Psalm 109:8./Acts 1:20 'Let another take '. The Apostles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote. Nothing to do with Paul etc telling Mark what to write. 11sd Timothy 3:16-17. 11sd Peter 1:20-21. How could Paul be Matthias when Paul had never met the disciples for years. This guy makes things up as he goes along.
Dr. Gerstner, as any teacher, may get some things wrong or "not quite right". There is no human on Earth who knows all the truth of God's word absolutely, and that includes you. We all make mistakes in our interpretations. For you to refer to Dr. Gerstner, a very highly respected and greatly loved professor of theology as 'this guy" who "makes things up" is very disrespectful.
@@BeingRomans829ed When we teach God's Word, it's God's Word we should teach. God says test the spirits. That's what the Bereans did with Paul. Acts 17:10-12.
@@jeff7888 he teaches the gospel correctly. That's what matters. No one I know has NEVER made an error of some kind; but the gospel must remain unchanged. He was always faithful to the preaching of the gospel in its truth and entirety including repentance. This was not a sin against the Holy Spirit. We know in part on this side of things. There certainly are false teachers in our world but Dr. Gerstner isn't/wasn't one of them. He went home in 1996. I have no doubt where he went.