Couple quick things: Thanks for a thousand subscribers!! I really didn't think I would reach that this year. Two, I changed my audio setup for this one. I don't think it sounds as good, but let me know.
The reason the Afghan forum was asking for the father's name was because some İslamic countries don't use Western style last names but rather the name of the individual's father. Kind of like how you'd have last names like "Thomson" or "Johnson" in Anglophone nations.
1:23 "Father's name" is our equivalent of a family name. The W3C recently had an article about various name customs from around the world, and it made a point of indicating that Muslim cultures primarily use patronymics. In large communities they simply add more (grandfather, great grandfather, etc.) although sometimes a village name can also be added on-consider also a certain Leonardo, from the town of Vinci.
Russians and those conquered by them (the Post-Soviets) use those too, but not instead of surnames, but alongside them. For example, if I were to be formally addressed, I'd have been called by my name-patronymic instead of my name-last name, in other instances, like when filling out a document, I'd have used the latter.
It was customary in the entiere western world. Noble families started having family names around the 13th century, but common folks really started using them only in the modern era,18th-19th century.
In the former Yugoslavia, we occasionally use father's name instead of a middle name, usually in the form of a middle initial, since we don't have middle names. Mostly in administrative stuff, or to reduce ambiguity.
A fresh breath of air on youtube.Are there really wartime websites in the current period? I viewed it more as thousands of accounts on social media disseminating propaganda thru memes
I forgot where or the name, but there was this website that connected Soviet users to the rest of the world and there are very interesting posts from Soviet citizens during the August coup on it
Being anti-soviet doesn't make you not a socialist or a communist, but from what you've stated they sound more like a standard progressive organisation. I can understand why RAWA doesn't want to engage with foreign powers (a bit stupid since you should be pragmatic when under that level of oppression), but that whole suing for copyright reasons makes them seem poorly managed. I'd assume these days all these wacky sites have just been replaced by social media groups or pages (eg- telegram group chats).
Thanks for the video. I was especially touched by the part about former Yugoslavia "for peace". Very fascinating and new knowledge for me. I can help you with the second part.
3:35 The RAWA was (I don't know if they are anymore) the women's wing of the Afghanistan Liberation Organisation, a Maoist political group opposed both to the Soviets, the US, and the Taliban (and some similar factions of the Mujahadeen), which operated an insurgency against the Soviets, though a lot of ALO members would abandon Marxism and become Salafists after the assasinatoons of Faiz Ahmad (founder of the ALO) and Meena Keshwar Kamal (founder of RAWA and wife of Faiz Ahmad) by agents of the Soviet puppet government, which led to rhe disintegration of the armed wing of the ALO.
The "father's name" portion is because a lot of Arab names include their father's and grandfather's names. They are kinda treated as Western middle names, but often mandaroty.
I doubt that any Iraqi Ba'athis would willing join Syria. They were at constant odds against each other. The Syrian Ba'athis allowed Iran to use their airspace and runways during the war against Iraq in the 80's. Far as I know most of them ended up fighting under Isis.
iam preety sure isis was supported by israel/america since: 1:they never attacked israel and when they hit them accidently they apologised 2:they were considered usefull tools by an israeli commander(cant remember the name) 3:they have mostly attacked iran syria iraq and russia.
@@hallaldude3478 #1 Israel is more powerful than the other countries you mentioned. So they could be interested in keeping Israel out of the war. #3 there have been ISIS attacks against many nations if you are including Russia in your list. Including the US.
Also, Arabic is a bit different. When you write a word, you have to add what is called punctuation (also known as diacritics) to indicate how each letter should be pronounced. This is why, in Arabic, you might sometimes see two different words spelled the same way but with very different meanings,because the punctuation is different. The issue when it comes to digital media adding these diacritics can be impractical (though not impossible), so most written Arabic content online doesn’t include punctuation and relies on readers using context clues to understand how to read a word. Al-Mahrar can mean “the editor,” as you mentioned, but I think the intended meaning here was the word spelled the same way, pronounced differently, and meaning “the freed one.”
Fun Fact: from pakistan we speak......RAWAs leader had affiliations with many of the communist leaders and was pretty big supporter of Babark karmal......there fore as she was a huge speaker for his cause the KGB silenced her according to our local Afghan refugee History teacher
The RAWA was historically (might still be) a Maoist organization, as China and Chinese aligned communist parties took the stance of the "three worlds theory" in which they took an active stance against what they called Soviet "social imperialism".
1:45 on the topic of corruption not bieng taken seriously, when the taliban took over they found and recorded (i think) 3 million dollors worth of gold in the apartment of the old afghan leader.
0:30 in my opinion, it's not becoming about ideologies anymore, atleast for countries after the cold war, these days it's more about mercenaries, technology and new generational warfare, Commander-in-Chief Putin once talked about this i think
I know of SO MANY jihadist websites from around this time (even some now) it's unreal. Stuff like this is absurdly interesting, especially seeing things from the jihadist perspective. See you at 10k subs lol great video
oh wow, i didn't expect to find a vid on this topic. gotta love niche interests! honestly, i'm kind of sad about the current state of the internet, everything is so homogenous, there are barely individual websites anymore, it's all mainstream social media, so i guess these kind of websites are a relic of the past. i still wonder whether there are in fact still remaining websites of this kind.. i wonder whether terrorist organisations still have such. i remember reading about one dagestani website, and one al-qaeda
The fact that RAWA is anti-Soviet doesn't mean they aren't communist in leanings. Meena was married to an anti-Soviet communist leader. Also, they're right about the US and Taliban being equally bad
I really love your channel and hope it pops off - idk if this is on purpose but it seems to address the content niche of "1990s+" which is extremely interesting, keep it up!
Algorithm for once showing me an interesting video, wow! A minor thing regarding the father's name shtick, this is actually done in quite a few different countries either for cultural reasons or because of naming conventions (E.g., the Spanish/Portuguese speaking world). I assume that's the case here as well, just so the person who's doing the reporting can be narrowed down in the event of people having similar or outright same names. Could be wrong though, but I do work which handles a lot of ID from different countries and this is what I was told.
kino channel. investing real early at 1k - i wouldn't be surprised if you hit 30-50k by the end of the year. this is a channel just waiting for the algorithm to pick it up and propel it to the moon.
If you ever do a part 2 to this video, you should cover some of the websites used during the 2011 Arab spring. Some of the larger sites were instrumental for some of the mass protests that took place in Egypt and Syria.
Al moharer could also mean the freer (i know that isn't a word, but i don't know how to put it in english) it could mean the one who frees or the one who librates, it fits the context
I think RAWA refuses to work with foreign nations and organizations because it knows it would discredit their work. It'd be really easy for the Taliban to declare then an agent of the US if they had ever accepted US funding for example.
ive been trying to find 4chan style arab sites that existed during the syrian civil war, ive heard of them but i know nothing about arab culture or language so i havent made much progress. I was hoping this vid would include them but its mostly about countries america was involved in. good video anyway
I would like to see more middleeastern ones, im sure the syrian civil war militias created some cool aesthetic ones. I wonder if some subsaharian organization has smth similar
In some parts of the middle east the "Father's name" is treated like a middle name, for example if your name is John Smith and your Dad's name is David Smith then your full name would be treated as John David Smith or John D Smith. That's just how things work in that society and it's not an evidence that that particular government is progressive or not at least in my opinion
Soviets have been invited by Taraki , but Hafizullah Amin killed Taraki , Hafizullah Amin believe Soviet on him side , Soviet kill Hafizullah Amin and Babrak Karmal from Parcham faction new president with the help from the Soviet
It was not democratic at all. First of all, the government came to power through a coup during the Saur Revolution in 1978. Secondly, the Soviets intervened to remove Hafizullah Amin, who was also a Communist but was a complete nutjob as he purged many people around him. He even had Nur Muhammad Taraki, the first general secretary, killed. The Soviets intervened primarily to replace Amin with the exiled Babrak Karmal. It was only after this intervention that the Mujahedeen began to receive significant foreign support. At that time, the insurgency was still in its early stages, consisting of disorganized rebellions by conservative groups and some dissatisfied Communists, primarily Maoists, who opposed the Khalq regime due to its purges of anyone they perceived as a threat. Yes the reason the war started is highly misunderstood but people often tend to ignore how bad the Communists were in Afghanistan
Couple quick things: Thanks for a thousand subscribers!! I really didn't think I would reach that this year.
Two, I changed my audio setup for this one. I don't think it sounds as good, but let me know.
Four days later & it's now 2k! Impressive!
Hi!
nah i liked the feel of this audio. It sounded something from 2000
The reason the Afghan forum was asking for the father's name was because some İslamic countries don't use Western style last names but rather the name of the individual's father. Kind of like how you'd have last names like "Thomson" or "Johnson" in Anglophone nations.
This is also the case in some majority Christian countries, like Bulgaria
I thought Arabs in particular used their tribes' name as a surname instead of their nasab. Or was I remembering things incorrectly?
Well most Arabs are not tribal only the peninsula@@taysondynastyemperor5124
@@taysondynastyemperor5124 both
@@taysondynastyemperor5124نستعمل كلاهما وكذلك البلدان والمناطق احيانا بدلهما(النسب، القبيلة)
1:23 "Father's name" is our equivalent of a family name. The W3C recently had an article about various name customs from around the world, and it made a point of indicating that Muslim cultures primarily use patronymics. In large communities they simply add more (grandfather, great grandfather, etc.) although sometimes a village name can also be added on-consider also a certain Leonardo, from the town of Vinci.
Or a certain Don, from Corleone
Russians and those conquered by them (the Post-Soviets) use those too, but not instead of surnames, but alongside them. For example, if I were to be formally addressed, I'd have been called by my name-patronymic instead of my name-last name, in other instances, like when filling out a document, I'd have used the latter.
It was customary in the entiere western world. Noble families started having family names around the 13th century, but common folks really started using them only in the modern era,18th-19th century.
In the former Yugoslavia, we occasionally use father's name instead of a middle name, usually in the form of a middle initial, since we don't have middle names. Mostly in administrative stuff, or to reduce ambiguity.
'Muslim cultures' is a massive category lol.
The father's name is the middle name in arabic names. The translation to english makes it look funny but that's the same as a second name in the west.
They could've said "Patronymic"
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH Seeing the other spelling mistakes on the website I doubt they knew that word…
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH Because that is such a common word.
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH Why say 'father's name' in a non English language for an English translation on their website?
المحرر in Arabic can have two meanings
The Editor and the liberator
The thermometer?
@ibroplatin4915 Mmm no, المحرر is not used commonly for the word thermometer but it would be interesting to use it
مقياس الحرارة Is bit long
@@ibroplatin4915محرار maybe and the pronunciation is different but the one with the two words is more commonly used
Look at the “Tashkeel” it has “Shedah” so it means the liberator
A fresh breath of air on youtube.Are there really wartime websites in the current period? I viewed it more as thousands of accounts on social media disseminating propaganda thru memes
They're not as common these days, but there are still a few
@AdamLevi-b2zwhat are some active isis websites? Now I’m curious
@AdamLevi-b2zdo you have a telegram or something where you can send me the links?
I forgot where or the name, but there was this website that connected Soviet users to the rest of the world and there are very interesting posts from Soviet citizens during the August coup on it
Is it the one made by asionomonetary?
Fido?
Are you thinking of Usenet posts?
once every blue moon youtube recommends me a video that's actually good
4:57 المحرر also means the liberator, it makes more sense imo
Or "the one who liberates"
Praying for Algorithm to give this channel the light it's soo good and educational
this is my favorite type of video essays. thank you for letting me relive the good old days of 2021 again!
This channels so good! Love the knowledge and presentation. Hope this channel grows!
Loving your videos man, you have very unique interests. Keep it up!
Being anti-soviet doesn't make you not a socialist or a communist, but from what you've stated they sound more like a standard progressive organisation. I can understand why RAWA doesn't want to engage with foreign powers (a bit stupid since you should be pragmatic when under that level of oppression), but that whole suing for copyright reasons makes them seem poorly managed.
I'd assume these days all these wacky sites have just been replaced by social media groups or pages (eg- telegram group chats).
or whatsapp but doubt it cause no encryption
Thanks for the video. I was especially touched by the part about former Yugoslavia "for peace". Very fascinating and new knowledge for me. I can help you with the second part.
been needing to watch this, had it on my playlist for a month
3:35 The RAWA was (I don't know if they are anymore) the women's wing of the Afghanistan Liberation Organisation, a Maoist political group opposed both to the Soviets, the US, and the Taliban (and some similar factions of the Mujahadeen), which operated an insurgency against the Soviets, though a lot of ALO members would abandon Marxism and become Salafists after the assasinatoons of Faiz Ahmad (founder of the ALO) and Meena Keshwar Kamal (founder of RAWA and wife of Faiz Ahmad) by agents of the Soviet puppet government, which led to rhe disintegration of the armed wing of the ALO.
kinda like the belligerents revolving Pol Pot, China with support from the US helped pol pot in order to be in conflict with the Vietnamese
This channel is gold, keep it up!
These are going crazy bro I support it🎉❤
Algorithm blessed me wit a banger channel today
Wow, this channel is a hidden gem, hope the algorithm blesses you brother 👍
i thought your profile avatar was the Novorossiya flag for a moment
The "father's name" portion is because a lot of Arab names include their father's and grandfather's names. They are kinda treated as Western middle names, but often mandaroty.
Afghans are not Arabs.
bro just found your channel, quality material man
love the web 2.0 design, keep making this videos!
Funny Baathist man in thumbnail?
I’ve never clicked faster.
Who is that?
I think its the dude behind the defense of baghdad@saulgoodmanKAZAKH
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH Baghdad Bob.
Ba'ased.
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKHthe minister of information Saeed Sahaf (verify)
Just came across this video and the channel. Really hope to see you grow this is some great stuff!
4:03 they’re more right than what most assume
That last quote really does need to be framed and displayed on a wall lmao, also great job with these videos!
I doubt that any Iraqi Ba'athis would willing join Syria. They were at constant odds against each other. The Syrian Ba'athis allowed Iran to use their airspace and runways during the war against Iraq in the 80's. Far as I know most of them ended up fighting under Isis.
Syria was a part of the coalition that kicked Iraq out of Kuwait too.
As every time you discuss anything related to Iraq post-2003, it's more complicated than just "they all joined ISIS"
@@gahpaxwelo Thats why i said "most" and not "all".
iam preety sure isis was supported by israel/america since:
1:they never attacked israel and when they hit them accidently they apologised
2:they were considered usefull tools by an israeli commander(cant remember the name)
3:they have mostly attacked iran syria iraq and russia.
@@hallaldude3478
#1 Israel is more powerful than the other countries you mentioned. So they could be interested in keeping Israel out of the war.
#3 there have been ISIS attacks against many nations if you are including Russia in your list. Including the US.
Underated channel, good video!
love this content!!! more crazy websites please!!
Also, Arabic is a bit different. When you write a word, you have to add what is called punctuation (also known as diacritics) to indicate how each letter should be pronounced. This is why, in Arabic, you might sometimes see two different words spelled the same way but with very different meanings,because the punctuation is different.
The issue when it comes to digital media adding these diacritics can be impractical (though not impossible), so most written Arabic content online doesn’t include punctuation and relies on readers using context clues to understand how to read a word. Al-Mahrar can mean “the editor,” as you mentioned, but I think the intended meaning here was the word spelled the same way, pronounced differently, and meaning “the freed one.”
Regarding 4:59 , the word "المحرر" or "al-moharir" translates to "The Free-er"
The liberator
Fun Fact: from pakistan we speak......RAWAs leader had affiliations with many of the communist leaders and was pretty big supporter of Babark karmal......there fore as she was a huge speaker for his cause the KGB silenced her according to our local Afghan refugee History teacher
KGB? Do you mean Afghan KHAD?
were most of them Maoists?
here before this channel blows up
hey this is the cozy nook where the cool people hang out right
The RAWA was historically (might still be) a Maoist organization, as China and Chinese aligned communist parties took the stance of the "three worlds theory" in which they took an active stance against what they called Soviet "social imperialism".
it was definitely wrong of china for this stance especially having someone like Pol Pot in their side
This is absolutely fascinating
Father's name is last name.
We need more like this here on youtube! That was super interesting!
Super interesting. Early public internet stuff is fascinating.
That typo at 0:53
I like your videos, u do well giving info
Incredible channel 👏 🙌 ❤️
Dude you topics are amazing
1:45 on the topic of corruption not bieng taken seriously, when the taliban took over they found and recorded (i think) 3 million dollors worth of gold in the apartment of the old afghan leader.
Subbed. Bro. These are interesting ahhh videos.
0:53 LMAO that typo.
0:30 in my opinion, it's not becoming about ideologies anymore, atleast for countries after the cold war, these days it's more about mercenaries, technology and new generational warfare, Commander-in-Chief Putin once talked about this i think
المحرر Is a double meaning word it could either mean editor or liberator
I wonder if the Donetsk Anime Shop has a website
Nice channel, i definetely will look up more of your stuff
Very interesting and informative video. Keep up the good work bro
This was interesting, thank you for sharing
I know of SO MANY jihadist websites from around this time (even some now) it's unreal. Stuff like this is absurdly interesting, especially seeing things from the jihadist perspective. See you at 10k subs lol great video
It's crazy how much you can find if u dig deep ig, wonder if you could send some of the URLs here? Want to do research yh
oh wow, i didn't expect to find a vid on this topic. gotta love niche interests!
honestly, i'm kind of sad about the current state of the internet, everything is so homogenous, there are barely individual websites anymore, it's all mainstream social media, so i guess these kind of websites are a relic of the past.
i still wonder whether there are in fact still remaining websites of this kind.. i wonder whether terrorist organisations still have such. i remember reading about one dagestani website, and one al-qaeda
The fact that RAWA is anti-Soviet doesn't mean they aren't communist in leanings. Meena was married to an anti-Soviet communist leader. Also, they're right about the US and Taliban being equally bad
correct.
opinion.
The Taliban is fundamentally more moral than the United States
Yeah, it makes sense why they'd view them as equally bad. Not sure why the creator of the video can't discern that.
Good video, a part 2 would be really nice
its not everyday you find a channel as good as this
"al moharer" can also mean "the liberator" from "hurriya" freedom
I love your videos :)
I really love your channel and hope it pops off - idk if this is on purpose but it seems to address the content niche of "1990s+" which is extremely interesting, keep it up!
1:22 this is how names work in the region. your name consists of your name, your father and grandfathers.
Algorithm for once showing me an interesting video, wow!
A minor thing regarding the father's name shtick, this is actually done in quite a few different countries either for cultural reasons or because of naming conventions (E.g., the Spanish/Portuguese speaking world). I assume that's the case here as well, just so the person who's doing the reporting can be narrowed down in the event of people having similar or outright same names.
Could be wrong though, but I do work which handles a lot of ID from different countries and this is what I was told.
amazing channel!
This is indeed very cool!
kino channel. investing real early at 1k - i wouldn't be surprised if you hit 30-50k by the end of the year. this is a channel just waiting for the algorithm to pick it up and propel it to the moon.
If you ever do a part 2 to this video, you should cover some of the websites used during the 2011 Arab spring. Some of the larger sites were instrumental for some of the mass protests that took place in Egypt and Syria.
This channel is peak.
Al moharer could also mean the freer (i know that isn't a word, but i don't know how to put it in english) it could mean the one who frees or the one who librates, it fits the context
The Emancipator is also an appropriate synonym
you should talk abot official website that runs by terrorist organization . It would be interesting
Correction: Al-muharir also means the liberator
The Internet vs the internet
7:55 i cannot believe you used the post 1998 flag for bosnia in 1994 you should delete this video immediately 😤
great video though, fascinating stuff
Oh no you're right uhhhh I forgot about that
pleaasseee make another video!! its really hard to find any this interesting anymore
al moharer also means "the liberator" as a lot of Arabic words have different meanings depending on its spelling
I think RAWA refuses to work with foreign nations and organizations because it knows it would discredit their work. It'd be really easy for the Taliban to declare then an agent of the US if they had ever accepted US funding for example.
is that a sifl or ollie pfp i forget in my old age
Sifl!
1:22 snarky redditor comment about something you don’t know squat about.
pretty good stuff, a bit biased
You can't just say he's a bit biased and not tell why
@@giorgospapoutsakis5271 it;s a secret lOLOL
ive been trying to find 4chan style arab sites that existed during the syrian civil war, ive heard of them but i know nothing about arab culture or language so i havent made much progress.
I was hoping this vid would include them but its mostly about countries america was involved in.
good video anyway
I would like to see more middleeastern ones, im sure the syrian civil war militias created some cool aesthetic ones. I wonder if some subsaharian organization has smth similar
wait are we just gonna ignore the time travel assistance website?
warternet
What?
How did you get into this rabbit hole?
In some parts of the middle east the "Father's name" is treated like a middle name, for example if your name is John Smith and your Dad's name is David Smith then your full name would be treated as John David Smith or John D Smith. That's just how things work in that society and it's not an evidence that that particular government is progressive or not at least in my opinion
1:22 was the form in Enlish maybe mean last name translation error
Please make a part two
Imagine it's 2003 and you end up on a wartime terrorist website because you spelled Google weong.
4:57 actually the translation is incorrect it means the liberator
Bruh i literally just subscribed
youtube gem
Needs more views
a good modern example would be russia setting up official government websites for their occupied areas of ukraine (e.g. luhansk / donetsk oblasts)
Do another one!
Where is the serbia quote from lmao?
4:20 you're joking right lol
Soviets did not invade Afghanistan, they were invited by Democratic Afghan government to tackle CIA trained Mujaihdeen.
Hafizullah Amin
This lie has been mainstreamed so much it's hard to convince people otherwise
Soviets have been invited by Taraki , but Hafizullah Amin killed Taraki , Hafizullah Amin believe Soviet on him side , Soviet kill Hafizullah Amin and Babrak Karmal from Parcham faction new president with the help from the Soviet
It was not democratic at all. First of all, the government came to power through a coup during the Saur Revolution in 1978. Secondly, the Soviets intervened to remove Hafizullah Amin, who was also a Communist but was a complete nutjob as he purged many people around him. He even had Nur Muhammad Taraki, the first general secretary, killed. The Soviets intervened primarily to replace Amin with the exiled Babrak Karmal. It was only after this intervention that the Mujahedeen began to receive significant foreign support. At that time, the insurgency was still in its early stages, consisting of disorganized rebellions by conservative groups and some dissatisfied Communists, primarily Maoists, who opposed the Khalq regime due to its purges of anyone they perceived as a threat.
Yes the reason the war started is highly misunderstood but people often tend to ignore how bad the Communists were in Afghanistan
@@TheFlykingInkmanwhat you expect from Khalqists believe themselves as Stalin/Lenin? and saying"We need land , not the people".
i love u
Rawa is based as fuck.