Milwaukee showed off some seriously cool stuff at the Pipeline Event this year. Which gear are you most excited for? Let me know in the comments below! #milwaukeetools #milwaukeepackout #milwaukee #arborist #chainsaws
This was a cool opportunity! Milwaukee has a great lineup. I love their big 1/2" impact. I was able to break the nuts loose in my 24 yr old Bush Hog to change the blades. I had tried and failed with my pneumatic impact.
@bioniclife That's awesome! I like their stuff too. My half inch impact gave up on me while I was taking the tires off of my dump truck 😬 I sent it in and they repaired it and sent it back all free of charge.
I switched over to “packout” style boxes from rope bags a while ago for tree gear storage. I overall prefer boxes for their stack-ability/ organization. Just can’t leave them under the tree to play out rope, they don’t take a hit as well as bags…. Thanks for the vid Zach!
@ClimbingColt Ohhh, that's an excellent point. I did set up a lift stabilizer on a packout box once. It took it, but I don't think they would like impacts 😬
I also use packout heavily. Checkout the tool bags. Their 15” tool bag will fit 200’ of 11.7mm rope no problem and can take more of a beating than the boxes can.
Love Milwaukee batteries. Their drills are top-notch. Also, I think they have the best telescoping pole saw. I think Husqvarna has the best top handle saw. I've seen a video of climbing arborist using the pack out boxes, and it seems like it could be useful. Can't wait to see you put that big saw to the test
@5chris520 It's ll good stuff! I have the most experience with the top handle saw. It and the husky with have their place. One is good for trimming the other is better at hogging off crane picks
Hey Zach, nice coverage of some of the new Milwaukee stuff. I think Milwaukee is one of the better battery platforms out there, and seems most their tools for the most part are top notch also...
@MikeBrooks12550 Thanks! I think so too. They're definitely not the cheapest and not ever tool is the best, but they have a good warranty and seem to do pretty well overall.
Cool stuff from Milwaukee. I was thinking about how engines develop less power at altitude while I was in Yellowstone this past week. Battery saws couldn't care less about altitude.
I bought Milwaukee Packout drawers for small tools and RC hobby supplies in the house. Crazy expensive but they do work fine. In some ways I like Dewalt's stuff better - less wasted space and positive drawer locks. No ideal system for me but I do need the organization so money well spent.
I bpught the 200.00 Milwaukee packout bog box on rollers with suitcase style handle..for the grcs mounts straps..but i cant barley lift it out of the truck had to put it on trailer roll it off.
@@zaccheus I only had the base that goes around tree I'n the Milwaukee big case on wheels rectangle one 200.00 bucks..just that and strap for grcs and still couldn't lift that at least not regularly..I use milk crate now
@Sethhaun78 I hear yah. I just leave mine in the tool box and carry the pieces to the tree independently. They're too heavy to put into anything really. A milk crate sounds like a good idea!
@@zaccheus I put grcs itself in milk crate with padding...and use regular green dolly to carry things ..have had huge logs on that dolly I just replace tires with harborfreight tires as needed. Went threw 2...8 dollar tires in a year pretty good...before I had this ditchwitch....I used dolly to pull up logs on utility trailer have 12 and 14 ft utility trailer s. ...hand loading logs last 5 years and last 2 years very sick has been nighmare....I bought the grcs truck mount..so when possible not to carry or use that heavy tree mounting system ..the truck mount is simple it's plug and play...you just set the grcs in it..put a pin in and your ready to work . No straps no pri bar....it can be mounted vertical or horizontal..wich you cannot do on the tree mount...version...you can run a redirect to the tree or object or another tree with a block...or you can back truck up facing the tree your working on and aim straight at it ..just put block at the base of tree..hence straight on pulling..
We'll see if they can ever get batteries to perform equivalent to a 500i. Thats when they've truly made it. The cooling systems need to get way better.
@brandonswan9247 Absolutely. They released new batteries with this saw that are ventilated and a new charger that cools the batteries as the charge, but there needs to be a way to keep them cool on the saw.
Great video buddy as always my opinion I don't like the battery stuff I know some people do I just don't think I'll ever like it I love gas-powered and I stick with it but hey to each his own God bless everybody stay safe
@br-dj2ti for sure. There is nothing wrong woth stick with what you like and what you're skilled with. Battery saws are a different animal. They have to be run a little different and it's hard to figure out coming from gas.
Zach looks like you made it being invited to shows through your channel. As for the electric saws, yes, they work great , but the cost of a 12amp battery around 250ish would need 4 min and cost of saw and a way to charge on jobsite. Plus a new set of chaps rated for electric saws. Very cool though how far battery technology has come in the last 10 years
@robertvannicolo4435 Yeah I did! They invited me after seeing the channel. It was a real blessing. I'm not familiar with there being a different PPE rating for electric saws, can you tell me more? Also keep in mind that this saw comes with a 5 year warranty. I don't know of anyone else that does that.
@robertvannicolo4435 I watched some videos on it, and I did see one corded saw that was not quickly stopped by chaps. Every battery saw that was tested did stop. However they stopped so fast that the didn't bind up enough fibers to keep them from starting again. So there are definitely some different characteristics there. Also I saw that many chaps exclude protection from electric saw in their attached literature.
@geoffreygreen297 Haha part and service available is a real thing. Electric motors are super low maintenance, especially brushless motors. It does have a 5 year warranty, too 🤷♂️
A quality electric brushless motor rarely fails. . if anything it'll be the batteries that go first. If you're into electronics you can find the bad cell by seeing the one that gets overly hot, removing it, and then solder a new one on there saving you a few hundred bucks
No idea. The reps were all standing there behind me so I wpukd have thought that they would have mentioned it if it was on the low setting. Either way, they are not the same motor.
That chainsaw is looking the nuts! Heavy I'm sure but if I'm not having to pull start it all day who cares! And that hedge trimmer! I'll be getting one.
Really appreciate your insights into what you saw at pipeline especially regarding the M18 dual battery saw in particulr as I’m really curious if they made changes to their . Did they mention chainspeed? Ik the m18 top Handle 2826-20t was just under 50’/sec which was just a bit too slow for some the itty bitty smaller limbs ime that just made for a lot of chatter when making small cuts and especially when compared to the the other cordless top handle I have which is imo the best battery saw I’ve used and that’s dewalts new dccs674 60v 14” flexvolt top handle saw which has a chain speed of right near 75FPS & that ales for a huge improvement cutting smalls I mean it’s night and day, im just really hoping they were able to rectify the issue with the m18 chainsaws sending batteries to early graves. I killed 3 8ah packs in one day when I first got 2826, I was just was doggin in back to back cuts and it actually burned out the bms chip on 2 of em and another common one is a pack that only charges to 3bars. That is generally that one of the middle banks of cells getting out of balance and is easy to fix. I use a flex 24v stacked lithium battery pack in my 2826and a 3dlow pro adapter and I haven’t had a battery overheat or issue since chainspeed from the 50ft/sec on 2826 and idk about the 2727.
@Jeff-rk8hq I don't know the chain speed off of the top of my head, but they do list it on their website. I prefer the slower chain speed for chugging through big cuts. But the chain isn't made for that slower speed. I think we need more chain options. I think it wpukd do better with full chisel
@sanjay0196 I don't think so. That's about the results I wpuld expect from a saw rated for 3.4 hp vs a saw rated for 5.8 hp. More horsepower means faster cuts. I was bummed we couldn't get the 362 to run. It was running earlier that day but then I think some plumber flooded it and that's why it wouldn't run for us. I'll do some real, independent testing with stihl and husky saws when I get my hands on one. I really want to try this thing against some gas saws.
@ClellWise Absolutely! That's what I was thinking. I asked if they had any intentions of cooling the battery while it was on the saw and that said no, but who knows what the future holds
@joshlower1 If you ever get a chance to try a good electric saw, you might be surprised. They're not all created equal, but the good ones are getting pretty good these days.
Just like a sproket o roller on the tip. Dont c the point n pullin a chain round. An yer like the 1/4 pitch takes time get sharp but were mainly prune an its good. Thanx bro
Lota people got echos. Great saw but then have to swap bar n sprokets to get what they want. If milwalkee could give options without havin to buy new bar. Be awesome.
@julianalderson3938 I did talk to the project manager about giving us more bar and chain options for the milwaukee top handle saw. The big saw here had a standard kerf .325 chain on it, so there should be some other chain options in the category. Quarter pitch wouldn't survive well on this saw and I don't thinknit wpuod do well on the top handle either. They both make too much torque. All their bars are oregon bars with a sprocket tip. I agree though, it would be nice to have some options.
@lililililililili8667 I agree. I spoke with the chainsaw product manager and he expressed that was a popular opinion. I like the full size top handle saw, I just wish they made a smaller one to replace the pistol grip dealio
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for bringing us along on the Milwaukee Expo. They've got a huge array battery tools for just about any profession. Nice. I like battery chainsaws for in the tree work. Not sure I'd replace my gas saws for felling.....maybe ok for chunking. Depends on the weight. A1
@@havespurswillclimb I can't agree more! I want to try this thing in the job, but I think it's going to take some getting used to. Electric doesn't run like gas
I run and build / sell ported saws. I have no desire to run an electric saw on the ground. Up in the tree? That’s a different matter entirely. They are damned convenient up there.
@WildAcresFarms For sure, I'll even take a heavier saw over one I have to start manually. The crane operators also tend to like them because it means for less saw noise in the intercom when you need to communicate while cutting.
Its not by coincidence 😅every battery video show there gas chainsaws never start..funny mine all start rite up within 2 to3 pulls cold and first pull hot ..ill keep my 462cm....realy what i need is a ported 543 or 261..the 8 pound would be better 543 is only saw im aware of in smaller class for climbing 🧗♂️..let me know of non battery or battery options for 40to 50cc that one dont look light😮
@Sethhaun78 I tried to start that thing several time we had it running earlier in the day, but it just wouldn't go when it was my turn to film 😒 I'll make a good comparison video once I get my hands on one
@@zaccheus reason I said that was there was several other videos of Milwaukee electric tool show type things where same thingbthere saws wouldn't start ..not because of your video..think that was 3rd tile I've seen that maybe more...try a properly tuned 94r. Polesaw combi.that and Milwaukee are fastest 2 polesaws I use 94rcombi daily..only because I just bought machine and all my yearly renewal insurance was do so am behind plus has medical issues last 9 months or more..greatful to be healing up some and have tp get on some other medications for month or so..the antibiotics helped infection greatly..was crippling pain compared to kidney stones they said and I felt
I heard Stihl wants to be 80% battery power by 2028. I have the single battery Milwaukee rear handle chainsaw with 1/4 pitch chain and it performs well, but it‘s heavy! Neotec makes a clone of the 543 for less$$$. The 543xp and the 540xp mk3 are actually Zenoah made saws as Husqvarna currently owns that company.
Love seeing the video to get the visual of what you and I talked about last week, really cool stuff.
Pretty neat to see all the new stuff they are coming out with. I love their power tools for automotive work. I have a bunch of them 😂
This was a cool opportunity! Milwaukee has a great lineup. I love their big 1/2" impact. I was able to break the nuts loose in my 24 yr old Bush Hog to change the blades. I had tried and failed with my pneumatic impact.
@bioniclife That's awesome! I like their stuff too. My half inch impact gave up on me while I was taking the tires off of my dump truck 😬 I sent it in and they repaired it and sent it back all free of charge.
I switched over to “packout” style boxes from rope bags a while ago for tree gear storage. I overall prefer boxes for their stack-ability/ organization. Just can’t leave them under the tree to play out rope, they don’t take a hit as well as bags…. Thanks for the vid Zach!
@ClimbingColt Ohhh, that's an excellent point. I did set up a lift stabilizer on a packout box once. It took it, but I don't think they would like impacts 😬
I also use packout heavily. Checkout the tool bags. Their 15” tool bag will fit 200’ of 11.7mm rope no problem and can take more of a beating than the boxes can.
@@blackdog_arb that's an excellent idea! Thanks for sharing that info!
Love Milwaukee batteries. Their drills are top-notch. Also, I think they have the best telescoping pole saw. I think Husqvarna has the best top handle saw. I've seen a video of climbing arborist using the pack out boxes, and it seems like it could be useful. Can't wait to see you put that big saw to the test
@5chris520 It's ll good stuff! I have the most experience with the top handle saw. It and the husky with have their place. One is good for trimming the other is better at hogging off crane picks
Hey Zach, nice coverage of some of the new Milwaukee stuff. I think Milwaukee is one of the better battery platforms out there, and seems most their tools for the most part are top notch also...
@MikeBrooks12550 Thanks! I think so too. They're definitely not the cheapest and not ever tool is the best, but they have a good warranty and seem to do pretty well overall.
Cool stuff from Milwaukee. I was thinking about how engines develop less power at altitude while I was in Yellowstone this past week. Battery saws couldn't care less about altitude.
@osagejon8972 That's an excellent point! No tuning changes needed or anything. I hadn't considered that.
I bought Milwaukee Packout drawers for small tools and RC hobby supplies in the house. Crazy expensive but they do work fine. In some ways I like Dewalt's stuff better - less wasted space and positive drawer locks. No ideal system for me but I do need the organization so money well spent.
I bpught the 200.00 Milwaukee packout bog box on rollers with suitcase style handle..for the grcs mounts straps..but i cant barley lift it out of the truck had to put it on trailer roll it off.
@Sethhaun78 Yeah, I used to keep my grcs in a pelican case. It's just too much to put all in one case.
@@zaccheus I only had the base that goes around tree I'n the Milwaukee big case on wheels rectangle one 200.00 bucks..just that and strap for grcs and still couldn't lift that at least not regularly..I use milk crate now
@Sethhaun78 I hear yah. I just leave mine in the tool box and carry the pieces to the tree independently. They're too heavy to put into anything really. A milk crate sounds like a good idea!
@@zaccheus I put grcs itself in milk crate with padding...and use regular green dolly to carry things ..have had huge logs on that dolly I just replace tires with harborfreight tires as needed. Went threw 2...8 dollar tires in a year pretty good...before I had this ditchwitch....I used dolly to pull up logs on utility trailer have 12 and 14 ft utility trailer s. ...hand loading logs last 5 years and last 2 years very sick has been nighmare....I bought the grcs truck mount..so when possible not to carry or use that heavy tree mounting system ..the truck mount is simple it's plug and play...you just set the grcs in it..put a pin in and your ready to work . No straps no pri bar....it can be mounted vertical or horizontal..wich you cannot do on the tree mount...version...you can run a redirect to the tree or object or another tree with a block...or you can back truck up facing the tree your working on and aim straight at it ..just put block at the base of tree..hence straight on pulling..
Yeah 👍 when go to one them shows hook us up i want to see 😉
@@joebennefield3368 you bet!
We'll see if they can ever get batteries to perform equivalent to a 500i. Thats when they've truly made it. The cooling systems need to get way better.
@brandonswan9247 Absolutely. They released new batteries with this saw that are ventilated and a new charger that cools the batteries as the charge, but there needs to be a way to keep them cool on the saw.
Great video buddy as always my opinion I don't like the battery stuff I know some people do I just don't think I'll ever like it I love gas-powered and I stick with it but hey to each his own God bless everybody stay safe
@br-dj2ti for sure. There is nothing wrong woth stick with what you like and what you're skilled with. Battery saws are a different animal. They have to be run a little different and it's hard to figure out coming from gas.
Zach looks like you made it being invited to shows through your channel. As for the electric saws, yes, they work great , but the cost of a 12amp battery around 250ish would need 4 min and cost of saw and a way to charge on jobsite. Plus a new set of chaps rated for electric saws. Very cool though how far battery technology has come in the last 10 years
@robertvannicolo4435 Yeah I did! They invited me after seeing the channel. It was a real blessing. I'm not familiar with there being a different PPE rating for electric saws, can you tell me more? Also keep in mind that this saw comes with a 5 year warranty. I don't know of anyone else that does that.
Zach, from what I have read electric chainsaws don't have drive sprocket which makes a difference just look up electric chainsaw chaps
@robertvannicolo4435 I watched some videos on it, and I did see one corded saw that was not quickly stopped by chaps. Every battery saw that was tested did stop. However they stopped so fast that the didn't bind up enough fibers to keep them from starting again. So there are definitely some different characteristics there. Also I saw that many chaps exclude protection from electric saw in their attached literature.
Are the Proto helmets about to have some competition!?
@@HappyTr33 haha I don't know if the bolt helmets will live up to the same standards or not, but I'm interested to see
I have a cordless lopper, although not name-brand. Certainly nice to have, although I don't climb with them.
I can’t wait to see what people do when the motor needs to be rebuilt.
@geoffreygreen297 Haha part and service available is a real thing. Electric motors are super low maintenance, especially brushless motors. It does have a 5 year warranty, too 🤷♂️
A quality electric brushless motor rarely fails. . if anything it'll be the batteries that go first. If you're into electronics you can find the bad cell by seeing the one that gets overly hot, removing it, and then solder a new one on there saving you a few hundred bucks
Was the QuikLok saw on the high power setting? There is a high and low toggle on the base handle.
No idea. The reps were all standing there behind me so I wpukd have thought that they would have mentioned it if it was on the low setting. Either way, they are not the same motor.
@@zaccheusGood point! I was surprised how different they preformed.
@@MikeVT me too honestly
That chainsaw is looking the nuts! Heavy I'm sure but if I'm not having to pull start it all day who cares! And that hedge trimmer! I'll be getting one.
@@bobaverage I'm gonna put it on the scale as soon as I get my hands on one! They had some really good stuff there
@@zaccheus Were you ablt to attain a price point? That Stihl is very expensive with that battery!
@bobaverage I believe they said the saw with two 8.0 batteries and a dual charger would be $900
@@zaccheus £700 if it were to be 1:1 exchange rate. Seems like a very good deal. The 6.0 forge batteries are £200+- here!
@bobaverage the batteries certainly ain't cheap, but they do have a lot of uses!
Really appreciate your insights into what you saw at pipeline especially regarding the M18 dual battery saw in particulr as I’m really curious if they made changes to their . Did they mention chainspeed? Ik the m18 top Handle 2826-20t was just under 50’/sec which was just a bit too slow for some the itty bitty smaller limbs ime that just made for a lot of chatter when making small cuts and especially when compared to the the other cordless top handle I have which is imo the best battery saw I’ve used and that’s dewalts new dccs674 60v 14” flexvolt top handle saw which has a chain speed of right near 75FPS & that ales for a huge improvement cutting smalls I mean it’s night and day, im just really hoping they were able to rectify the issue with the m18 chainsaws sending batteries to early graves. I killed 3 8ah packs in one day when I first got 2826, I was just was doggin in back to back cuts and it actually burned out the bms chip on 2 of em and another common one is a pack that only charges to 3bars. That is generally that one of the middle banks of cells getting out of balance and is easy to fix. I use a flex 24v stacked lithium battery pack in my 2826and a 3dlow pro adapter and I haven’t had a battery overheat or issue since chainspeed from the 50ft/sec on 2826 and idk about the 2727.
@Jeff-rk8hq I don't know the chain speed off of the top of my head, but they do list it on their website. I prefer the slower chain speed for chugging through big cuts. But the chain isn't made for that slower speed. I think we need more chain options. I think it wpukd do better with full chisel
Those pruners if cab make 50ml awesome'
Nice 😊 !!!!!🤠👌👌👌💯💯
@leonardvirtue5753 thanks Leonard!
@@zaccheus 🤠👌👌🤙💯💯💪💪💪
I agree... Finger remover 3000 😅
@@GuyBaptist777 I could tell the milwaukee rep didn't like when I said that 😂
lmao the the pruners are super useful if you have trees
I can guarantee you that Milwaukee have messed with all the stihl kit to make it seem slowed
@sanjay0196 I don't think so. That's about the results I wpuld expect from a saw rated for 3.4 hp vs a saw rated for 5.8 hp. More horsepower means faster cuts. I was bummed we couldn't get the 362 to run. It was running earlier that day but then I think some plumber flooded it and that's why it wouldn't run for us. I'll do some real, independent testing with stihl and husky saws when I get my hands on one. I really want to try this thing against some gas saws.
Having a battery that is cool upon charging completion is definitely revolutionary. Could literally change the industry. Cool stuff buddy.
@ClellWise Absolutely! That's what I was thinking. I asked if they had any intentions of cooling the battery while it was on the saw and that said no, but who knows what the future holds
Electric is dumb
@joshlower1 If you ever get a chance to try a good electric saw, you might be surprised. They're not all created equal, but the good ones are getting pretty good these days.
Makita has had it for years on their dual charger
@@mreggbird I have a makita duel charger. It has fans that cool the charger itself, but nothing that cools the batteries.
Yer powerfull milwakee saw. Just needs some refining for climbin. Cheers
@@julianalderson3938 what would ypu like to see different for climbing?
Bit slimer' and a 1/4 pitch option with bar sproket. They prop have bar sproket but alot dont. Thanks
Just like a sproket o roller on the tip. Dont c the point n pullin a chain round. An yer like the 1/4 pitch takes time get sharp but were mainly prune an its good. Thanx bro
Lota people got echos. Great saw but then have to swap bar n sprokets to get what they want. If milwalkee could give options without havin to buy new bar. Be awesome.
@julianalderson3938 I did talk to the project manager about giving us more bar and chain options for the milwaukee top handle saw. The big saw here had a standard kerf .325 chain on it, so there should be some other chain options in the category. Quarter pitch wouldn't survive well on this saw and I don't thinknit wpuod do well on the top handle either. They both make too much torque. All their bars are oregon bars with a sprocket tip. I agree though, it would be nice to have some options.
Milwaukee or Makita? I’m looking at getting a new hole saw for crankin the Grcs the makita is so pricey tho
@@MrEvanb93 th-cam.com/video/LOp-iATox24/w-d-xo.html
The need to make a normal top handle saw instead of that silly pistol grip thing
@lililililililili8667 I agree. I spoke with the chainsaw product manager and he expressed that was a popular opinion. I like the full size top handle saw, I just wish they made a smaller one to replace the pistol grip dealio
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for bringing us along on the Milwaukee Expo. They've got a huge array battery tools for just about any profession. Nice. I like battery chainsaws for in the tree work. Not sure I'd replace my gas saws for felling.....maybe ok for chunking. Depends on the weight. A1
@@havespurswillclimb I can't agree more! I want to try this thing in the job, but I think it's going to take some getting used to. Electric doesn't run like gas
Oh to have a few thousand dollars just laying around
@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 I know right 😒
Reliability issue. It ain't got no gas in it.
@@nickgamble4544 😂😂
Seemed bit of andvert. But cheers
you don't know how to start a chainsaw, but you want to review chainsaws
@@alessioG7176 tell me what I did wrong
Electric is gay
I run and build / sell ported saws. I have no desire to run an electric saw on the ground. Up in the tree? That’s a different matter entirely. They are damned convenient up there.
@WildAcresFarms For sure, I'll even take a heavier saw over one I have to start manually. The crane operators also tend to like them because it means for less saw noise in the intercom when you need to communicate while cutting.
Its not by coincidence 😅every battery video show there gas chainsaws never start..funny mine all start rite up within 2 to3 pulls cold and first pull hot ..ill keep my 462cm....realy what i need is a ported 543 or 261..the 8 pound would be better 543 is only saw im aware of in smaller class for climbing 🧗♂️..let me know of non battery or battery options for 40to 50cc that one dont look light😮
@Sethhaun78 I tried to start that thing several time we had it running earlier in the day, but it just wouldn't go when it was my turn to film 😒 I'll make a good comparison video once I get my hands on one
@@zaccheus reason I said that was there was several other videos of Milwaukee electric tool show type things where same thingbthere saws wouldn't start ..not because of your video..think that was 3rd tile I've seen that maybe more...try a properly tuned 94r. Polesaw combi.that and Milwaukee are fastest 2 polesaws I use 94rcombi daily..only because I just bought machine and all my yearly renewal insurance was do so am behind plus has medical issues last 9 months or more..greatful to be healing up some and have tp get on some other medications for month or so..the antibiotics helped infection greatly..was crippling pain compared to kidney stones they said and I felt
@Sethhaun78 Oh man. I'm glad you're on your way to feeling better then. That sounds awful.
I heard Stihl wants to be 80% battery power by 2028. I have the single battery Milwaukee rear handle chainsaw with 1/4 pitch chain and it performs well, but it‘s heavy! Neotec makes a clone of the 543 for less$$$. The 543xp and the 540xp mk3 are actually Zenoah made saws as Husqvarna currently owns that company.
@@kbittorf335 no chance..society cannot run on electrical only tools and cars..would be 200 percent failure